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Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: apollotrance1 on April 15, 2006, 08:55:00 AM
Hey just curious if anyone is still trying to do this? I've found the file..but am a little confused on how to understand the values...And I don't know where it might be to change the out put...I was just curious to find the limitations of how fast you can honestly go with out exiting the track like you can on GT4 with AR. Thanks.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: masterofdragons on April 17, 2006, 02:30:00 AM
Without modding the game you can hit 320mph+ in bump drafting enzos on the oval with a good connection.  As far as I know everyone has given up on modding forza physics though.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 17, 2006, 06:25:00 AM
You can't fly off the track in Forza.

You should have noticed that the car is reset to the track almost immediate when all four wheels leave the track, like it does when two wheels are off the ground in example when you are stuck on a curve.

Besides, it's just like PGR2 - there is nothing outside the track. You'll just fall through the surface texture.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: masterofdragons on April 18, 2006, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 17 2006, 06:56 AM) View Post

You can't fly off the track in Forza.

You should have noticed that the car is reset to the track almost immediate when all four wheels leave the track, like it does when two wheels are off the ground in example when you are stuck on a curve.

Besides, it's just like PGR2 - there is nothing outside the track. You'll just fall through the surface texture.

Not true, there are several glitches and jumps that let you get very high in the air, its when your car tilts too far that it gets reset.  There are also several gltiches that allow you to fall through the map and reach falling speeds of over 500mph.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: liv2ride on April 18, 2006, 03:53:00 PM
You can fly off the track  blink.gif  thats interesting, Never happened to me yet. lol.. thats pretty awesome
I'll have to try
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 19, 2006, 12:20:00 PM
What is it that isn't true masterofdragons?

QUOTE
You can't fly off the track in Forza.

True - you cannot fly off the track in Forza for two reasons;
QUOTE
the car is reset to the track almost immediate when all four wheels leave the track

True expect from fall through the ground glitch. However the question was to fly of the track, not go through it in an endless falling.

Your statement
QUOTE
its when your car tilts too far that it gets reset
is incorrect.

The car will be reset when two wheels are of the ground for more than a few seconds. - Try grinding on a curve on The Ring.

I don't know what you define as a jump, but if you actually get some speed up and hit a jump the car will quickly be reset when all four wheels leave the track, tilted or not. - Try the jump on Alpine Ring in example.

This post has been edited by DOS4GW: Apr 21 2006, 09:06 PM
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: masterofdragons on April 19, 2006, 11:48:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 19 2006, 12:51 PM) View Post

What is it that isn't true masterofdragons?
True - you canot fly off the track in Forza for two reasons;
  • There isn't anything outside the track to fly into.
  • Your car would be reset before you could reach it.

True expect from fall through the ground glitch. However the question was to fly of the track, not go through it in an endless falling.

Your statement  is incorrect.

The car will be reset when two wheels are of the ground for more than a few seconds. - Try grinding on a curve on The Ring.

I don't know what you define as a jump, but if you actually get some speed up and hit a jump the car will quickly be reset when all four wheels leave the track, tilted or not. - Try the jump on Alpine Ring in example.

I will say this.  Get on Forza, get in an enzo.  Go to Alpine Ring.  Drive to the end of the straight, then turn around and go full speed the wrong way, keeping on the right edge of the track.  You will fly way into the air for a long time, and if you car doesn't over rotate you will not be reset.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 19, 2006, 12:50:00 PM
This replay should show that grinding on a curve with two wheels in the air will get your car reset.
It will also show a perfect example of tweaked physics and power as the topic starter questioned.

Put the replay in /E:/UDATA/4d53006e/6442D57EA3A2/
You can view it in Options -> Replay Theatre.

Be sure to view the telemetry.

This is what I call a jump. The car is acutally reset when it is straighting out.


Pointless - you cannot see the real event since your car isn't modded.

This post has been edited by DOS4GW: Apr 29 2006, 09:43 AM
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: FSG on April 20, 2006, 05:32:00 AM
what do you open it iwith lol.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: punge on April 20, 2006, 09:00:00 AM
QUOTE(FSG @ Apr 20 2006, 12:03 PM) *

what do you open it iwith lol.


You have to put the file he posted into the directory and watch it in the replay mode of Forza. I'm at work and haven't tested it yet so don't quote me on that (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Also, Alpine Ring is lots of fun going backwards and then full speed to do a jump.

This post has been edited by punge: Apr 20 2006, 04:01 PM
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 20, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
Especially with 2500 bhp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: Dumped a few screens for you here.

This post has been edited by DOS4GW: Apr 22 2006, 04:18 AM
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: punge on April 22, 2006, 03:37:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 21 2006, 12:20 AM) *

Especially with 2500 bhp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: Dumped a few screens for you here.


Very Nice.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 22, 2006, 11:04:00 PM
Yeah, added some pretty cool wheels to the BMW too. Specs are 375/20/20 rear and front. Hehe. Smacked 19" on the Audi as shown, but I think it could do with 295/30/20.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: apollotrance1 on April 23, 2006, 09:12:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 20 2006, 07:20 PM) *

Especially with 2500 bhp (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Edit: Dumped a few screens for you here.

 hey can you talk to me in a pm
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: apollotrance1 on April 27, 2006, 11:44:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 20 2006, 07:20 PM) View Post

Especially with 2500 bhp smile.gif

Edit: Dumped a few screens for you here.



after a second look im callin b/s on those screen shots cause some of those things in the pictures are inconsistant
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on April 28, 2006, 06:39:00 AM
Yeah, guess the replays are fake too.

Edit: Just loaded the replays on a non-tweaked version and the result turned out to be completely different than from the modded one.

This post has been edited by DOS4GW: Apr 28 2006, 07:11 PM
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: punge on April 28, 2006, 10:06:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 28 2006, 01:10 PM) *

Yeah, guess the replays are fake too.

Its not fake. I can see that.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: apollotrance1 on April 28, 2006, 05:52:00 PM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ Apr 28 2006, 08:10 AM) View Post

Yeah, guess the replays are fake too.

Edit: Just loaded the replays on a non-tweaked version and the result turned out to be completely different than from the modded one.



I retract my previous statement.


*BOWS*BOWS*
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: Cruzz on May 12, 2006, 07:14:00 AM
Are those pics fake, or did you do some serious modding?
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on May 12, 2006, 08:00:00 AM
Of course it's fake. Did you really think this game is moddable?!
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: punge on May 12, 2006, 09:15:00 AM
QUOTE(DOS4GW @ May 12 2006, 02:31 PM) *

Of course it's fake. Did you really think this game is moddable?!


Did you use Photoshop 11 for those images? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on May 12, 2006, 02:39:00 PM
Hand drawn in mspaint.
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: 73h_5uCk on May 14, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
pwned!  laugh.gif
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: Cruzz on May 14, 2006, 01:26:00 PM
I actually didn't thought they were real..

But I hoped they were (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Title: Physics And Power.
Post by: DOS4GW on May 14, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
A friend of mine and I are testing different setups and tuning with the cars on XLink - in clearly labelled private rooms - a couple of times a week.

If you join up you can see for youself  wink.gif