Post by: pothead404 on June 04, 2005, 07:51:00 PM
thank you
Post by: UnReAlMaCk on June 04, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
Post by: d o a flo on June 07, 2005, 10:50:00 PM
i think thay havent come up with that yet.
Post by: loki on June 08, 2005, 12:41:00 AM
Post by: HamSandwhich on June 08, 2005, 06:07:00 AM
Post by: Andy Freeman on June 08, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
This is a racing game, not Max Power Magazine
Post by: misterhoangdai on June 08, 2005, 05:42:00 PM
Post by: XSOLJA on June 09, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
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misterhoangdai Posted Yesterday, 10:53 AM
nos doesn't add horsepower.
nos doesn't add horsepower.
WTF! Umm yes it does!!agreed that a lot of aspects of NFSU2 sucked ass, like neons and spinning rims
but it is a game tailored for a specific market.i would have liked to see some drag racing proper 1/4 mile stuff and drift in forza.
but that is just me i suppose
Post by: loki on June 10, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
QUOTE(roofus @ Jun 9 2005, 08:32 PM)
You can get drift if you customize your car for it, and turn off TCS / STM systems, and in multiplayer if you go through the point to point tracks there is a Test Track Drag Strip...
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: therealmikeg on June 20, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
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Post by: therealmikeg on June 20, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(Xekutr @ Jun 20 2005, 04:24 PM)
lol I love that, "Nos doesn't add horsepower" LMAO, I want to type more but it is too funny
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 20, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
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No, I have my true HP rating.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: doobzilla on June 20, 2005, 01:31:00 PM
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HP is a theoretical number derived from the formula:
W=F x D
whereas:
W=work
F=force used
D=distance traveled
Horsepower is just a measure of how fast you complete the work. Thus theoretical
i.e.
if a car develops 500 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3500 rpm, it has just made 333.206 hp
if the same car develops 900 ft.-lbs of torque at 4200 rpm, then its horsepower has just inreased to 719.726 hp. Do you honestly think that someone has taken 333.206 or 719.726 horses and used them to get this exact number?
Just had to throw in my $0.02.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: rixter110 on June 20, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 20, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Xekutr on June 20, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
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Yea or NFS:U
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: sobman on June 20, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 20, 2005, 01:23:00 PM
No, I have my true HP rating.
Post by: doobzilla on June 20, 2005, 01:31:00 PM
W=F x D
whereas:
W=work
F=force used
D=distance traveled
Horsepower is just a measure of how fast you complete the work. Thus theoretical
i.e.
if a car develops 500 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3500 rpm, it has just made 333.206 hp
if the same car develops 900 ft.-lbs of torque at 4200 rpm, then its horsepower has just inreased to 719.726 hp. Do you honestly think that someone has taken 333.206 or 719.726 horses and used them to get this exact number?
Just had to throw in my $0.02.
Post by: rixter110 on June 20, 2005, 01:41:00 PM
Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 20, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: Xekutr on June 20, 2005, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: sobman on June 20, 2005, 07:44:00 PM
QUOTE(therealmikeg @ Jun 20 2005, 02:29 PM)
NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP. They add torque, but whatever.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: brienj on June 20, 2005, 08:23:00 PM
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Post by: brienj on June 20, 2005, 08:23:00 PM
QUOTE(mcnabb06 @ Jun 20 2005, 10:09 PM)
But on Topic, Its funny how you can put NOS decals and StreetGlow decals but none of thats includeed in the game.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: HamSandwhich on June 21, 2005, 06:11:00 AM
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racing stripes add extra 5hp!!!!! tomfg! stupidly over modified cars are shit
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: brienj on June 23, 2005, 07:09:00 AM
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Rustmonkey on June 23, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
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Post by: HamSandwhich on June 21, 2005, 06:11:00 AM
Post by: brienj on June 23, 2005, 07:09:00 AM
Post by: Rustmonkey on June 23, 2005, 10:57:00 PM
QUOTE(therealmikeg @ Jun 20 2005, 09:29 PM)
NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP. They add torque, but whatever.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: iLLNESS on June 24, 2005, 01:51:00 AM
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im exxagerating of course, but nos costs $$$... turbo is like free hp
supercharge if u dont like lag.. fuck nos
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Ronu on July 04, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
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. You guys have been watching Fast and The Furious too much
actually iLLNESS, nitrous isn't all that expensive compared to forced induction. Forced induction pressurizes air and jams it into your engine. This isn't as safe as nitrous either. Giving your turbo or supercharger too much psi will result in blowing your motor (which believe it or not i have seen done alot more times then someone blowing their motor using nitrous). Nitrous is safe and won't hurt your motor if you use it in moderation. A 70 shot will hardly hurt a motor unless you decide to use it whle you drive around town. Stop watching Fast and The Furious and go get some knowledge about how cars work. Until you do that don't talk anymore
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Sphinx8821 on July 07, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
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OK howabout we stick to the topic subject here people?
Conclusion: If you want NOS, add it yourself by finalizing the code, or wait for NFSU:Most Wanted. (Which IMHO looks entertaining, due to the cops being back)
End of story.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: deacon187 on July 23, 2005, 12:03:00 AM
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Post by: iLLNESS on June 24, 2005, 01:51:00 AM
im exxagerating of course, but nos costs $$$... turbo is like free hp
supercharge if u dont like lag.. fuck nos
Post by: Ronu on July 04, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
. You guys have been watching Fast and The Furious too muchactually iLLNESS, nitrous isn't all that expensive compared to forced induction. Forced induction pressurizes air and jams it into your engine. This isn't as safe as nitrous either. Giving your turbo or supercharger too much psi will result in blowing your motor (which believe it or not i have seen done alot more times then someone blowing their motor using nitrous). Nitrous is safe and won't hurt your motor if you use it in moderation. A 70 shot will hardly hurt a motor unless you decide to use it whle you drive around town. Stop watching Fast and The Furious and go get some knowledge about how cars work. Until you do that don't talk anymore
Post by: Sphinx8821 on July 07, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
Conclusion: If you want NOS, add it yourself by finalizing the code, or wait for NFSU:Most Wanted. (Which IMHO looks entertaining, due to the cops being back)
End of story.
Post by: deacon187 on July 23, 2005, 12:03:00 AM
QUOTE(iLLNESS @ Jun 24 2005, 04:02 AM)
lol 70hp instantly..
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: CB Havoc on August 06, 2005, 09:45:00 AM
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Nitrousoxide allows for more fuel to be burned = more ponies
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 09, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
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my pink geo metro had No2
weeeeeeeeeee
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: DOS4GW on August 10, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
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NOS doesn't have anything to do with the turbo so what you're saying is plain bs.
The only way to keep the load pressure constant is to keep the rpm up while gearing.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: beige on August 10, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
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"Turbo Lag" and "Blow-off valve" are commonly accepted terms, so you don't have to nitpick.
And nitrous decreses load pressure delay by incresing the amount of exhaust (more air from the nitrous burning the extra fuel = more exhaust), increaseing exhaust pressure to accelerate the impeller bringing it up to speed faster. While it's not "totally eliminating" turbo lag in the physics sense, it's possible to reduce it to the point of it not being an issue.
A dump valve can reduce compresser impeller loading from overpressure which can lower the impeller speed from the resistance. (no exhaust moving the exhaust impeller with a greater load on the intake impeller tends to slow the turbo down), Which means less effort to get impeller speed back up (since it didn't drop as much) causing less load pressure delay.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: DOS4GW on August 11, 2005, 10:24:00 AM
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Since load pressure delay is a a result of lost load pressure while gearing you're telling me that using NOS while gearing would reduce the delay. Haha. Keep it up...
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: DOS4GW on August 12, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
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You don't have load pressure delay while driving the car with an engine that has rpm, so more exhaust as a result of NOS will not affect the non-existing load pressure delay.
It is when you release the throttle that the engine rpm decreases, resulting in less exhaust so the turbo pressure drops. You don't have to be a race car driver to understand that while keeping the engine rpm up while gearing you eliminate load pressure delay, simply because the load pressure doesn't fall.
Unless you use NOS while shifting gears, when the rpm drops instead of keeping the rpm up with the pedal, NOS will not have any on load pressure delay - yet I wonder how long your engine would last with NOS between each gear shift...
Does Loki's post look edited to you (?) it sure doesn't look edited to me.
Stop trolling the forum.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: beige on August 14, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
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1, i never said that loki's post was edited
2, i give up trying to explain anything to you
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: vingasoline on September 04, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
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This is by far, the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read in my whole life...
How about this: antifreeze doesn't cool off the engine, it prevents freezing.
Turbo lag is most common in first gear, because the turbo needs to spool(spin as fast as it can to reach the desired pressure) The bigger the turbo, the more lag there is.. Not much lag between shifting since it is fully spooled already.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Deadman1515 on September 04, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
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Are you retarded, put a car on a dyno, run it with no spray, next run with spray. It does add HP AND tourqe. Its an oxidzer so it helps fuels burn faster and hotter, how when it vaporizes when injection the nitrogen seperates from the oxygen which IS flamable, and the more O2 in the motor the more fuel you can run. Not to mention it cools the intake charge which makes the air more dense, more air means more power.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: myblackpony on September 05, 2005, 12:43:00 AM
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yeah, whatever :cool2:
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: vitalsnipes on June 20, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
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ok, i idn't finish reading everyones post about the NOS...but, alo of the other posts are true besides the no horse power or torque....just like drag racing, they usually run NOS from ignition or throttle control...i've seen someone run NOS at a drifting comp b4 so it's not just drag...the whole point of it is that...hmmm....idk, i got ahead of myself, lol....so, yeah, umm...theres a migc button for the little ricers because if u run NOS straight with out puting new seats for the valve and valves, u'll fu the engine. Anywho, this topic was all fucked up to begin with!
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Post by: DOS4GW on June 20, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
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You, vitalsnipes, will from now on be known as thread digger of the year.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: FSG on June 21, 2006, 04:31:00 AM
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Before you posted the last post was on
Sep 5 2005, 02:14 AM
Wow.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: vitalsnipes on June 22, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
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Sure, i was high that night so don't burn me to much on my post...yeah i knew about your post anyway!
AND...ur wrong about "turbo lag" theres always lag, you may just not notice it, and i'd like to see a car tht put out that much power without any "turbo lag"... even turbo powered drag cars have "turbo lag" and they admit to it!!!
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: netdroid9 on June 27, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
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I'd like N2O. I'd like to be able to tune my ECU. I'd like neons. I'd like more than one front bumper with adjustable down-force. If I asked if there was a mod in existance that added these, should I be flamed for attempting to decrease the realism of the game? No. I don't give a flying ^#$& about realism. If you want your game to be realistic, then don't use those mods. Just try and be polite if other people have different preferences.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: Deadfast on March 11, 2007, 01:58:00 AM
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This is by far, the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read in my whole life...
How about this: antifreeze doesn't cool off the engine, it prevents freezing.
Actually, antifreeze DOESN'T cool off the engine. It's the water that has all the heat absorption properties. Thats why you have to mix anti-freeze with water (some types come pre-mixed). The anti freeze lowers the freezing temperature of the water. Thats why when theres ice all over your car in the morning, your coolant system isn't all frozen up too... cause that would be bad... Anti freeze also has junk in it that helps slow down corrosion. I believe it may also increase the boiling point of water... but I'm not completely sure on that.
edit: and btw... to stay on topic... whens the last time you were watching a professional race on tv, and a driver who was neck and neck with an opponent on a straightaway hit the nitrous? I'm extremely glad they left nitrous out of forza, and I won't be very happy if it shows up in forza 2.
This post has been edited by Deadfast: Mar 11 2007, 10:01 AM
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Post by: punge on March 11, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
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Almost a year later...
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: madmike0408 on July 04, 2007, 02:13:00 PM
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Actually, antifreeze DOESN'T cool off the engine. It's the water that has all the heat absorption properties. Thats why you have to mix anti-freeze with water (some types come pre-mixed). The anti freeze lowers the freezing temperature of the water. Thats why when theres ice all over your car in the morning, your coolant system isn't all frozen up too... cause that would be bad... Anti freeze also has junk in it that helps slow down corrosion. I believe it may also increase the boiling point of water... but I'm not completely sure on that.
edit: and btw... to stay on topic... whens the last time you were watching a professional race on tv, and a driver who was neck and neck with an opponent on a straightaway hit the nitrous? I'm extremely glad they left nitrous out of forza, and I won't be very happy if it shows up in forza 2.
lol you sir, are wrong. put water alone in your car and see what happens. it will boil and you will overheat. antifreeze cools the engine as well as prevents it from freezing. antifreeze doesnt lower the freezing point of water, it combines with the water and forms a different substance.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: happykillmore on July 04, 2007, 03:44:00 PM
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lol you sir, are wrong. put water alone in your car and see what happens. it will boil and you will overheat. antifreeze cools the engine as well as prevents it from freezing. antifreeze doesnt lower the freezing point of water, it combines with the water and forms a different substance.
lol, you come in here talking shit. Antifreeze does lower the freezing point of water as so do many other substances such as salt. Go back to chemistry... and don't bring old threads up.
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: race_demon on March 29, 2008, 06:32:00 AM
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Anti freeze also has junk in it that helps slow down corrosion.
ive never drained my bikes coolant over winter or used antifreeze i lucky i havent split block
and yeah i can see tiy bits of rust in the rad so your right and killman i cant remember his name
is spot on
nitrous splits into nitrogen and oxygen which whe added to extra fuel increases the power
(effectively making a bigger bang/engine)
even if it did just add torque if you at torque to any speed your adding power
300lb/ft of torque at 4000rpm is more powerful than 200lb/ft at 4k
this game (and F2) needs fully programmable ecu's (for low power pulling, or
high end hp numbers or a mix)
who's got the old viper and put the ratio's to maximum accel fd and 1st top speeds like 2mph
we need trucks on this thing lol
anyways this is my first post so forgive me, all in all this is the best game end of but it needs to
take ibts off other games
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Title: Forza.motorsport Nos
Post by: hydroxycut3 on January 22, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
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nos doesn't add horsepower.
Do you have any knowledge of cars?
Post by: CB Havoc on August 06, 2005, 09:45:00 AM
Post by: Hoogabooga on August 09, 2005, 01:16:00 PM
weeeeeeeeeee
Post by: DOS4GW on August 10, 2005, 07:55:00 AM
QUOTE(loki @ Jun 8 2005, 08:52 AM)
its kinda funny though...the game has everything BUT nos... i dont get it.. most pimped out cars around here have nos systems in it... it ads a good 70+ hp and totally eliminates turbo lag... but..whatever
I beg your pardon? First of all it's not called "turbo lag". The name is load pressure delay.NOS doesn't have anything to do with the turbo so what you're saying is plain bs.
The only way to keep the load pressure constant is to keep the rpm up while gearing.
QUOTE(iLLNESS @ Jun 24 2005 @ 04:02 AM)
turbo lag? well theres only turbo lag if u cant shift... and have too big of a turbo
Correct.QUOTE(deacon187 @ Jul 23 2005, 08:14 AM)
i dont know much about superchargers and turbos, but i asked a mechanic what was that noise i hear when a wrx goes down the street when shifting gears and it was the blowoff valve that he said eliminates the lag from turbos when shifting gears
The common name is dump valve, and it doesn't eliminate the need to re-establish the load pressure between gear shifts. A dump valve releases overpressure.
Post by: beige on August 10, 2005, 11:46:00 AM
And nitrous decreses load pressure delay by incresing the amount of exhaust (more air from the nitrous burning the extra fuel = more exhaust), increaseing exhaust pressure to accelerate the impeller bringing it up to speed faster. While it's not "totally eliminating" turbo lag in the physics sense, it's possible to reduce it to the point of it not being an issue.
A dump valve can reduce compresser impeller loading from overpressure which can lower the impeller speed from the resistance. (no exhaust moving the exhaust impeller with a greater load on the intake impeller tends to slow the turbo down), Which means less effort to get impeller speed back up (since it didn't drop as much) causing less load pressure delay.
Post by: DOS4GW on August 11, 2005, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: DOS4GW on August 12, 2005, 12:04:00 PM
It is when you release the throttle that the engine rpm decreases, resulting in less exhaust so the turbo pressure drops. You don't have to be a race car driver to understand that while keeping the engine rpm up while gearing you eliminate load pressure delay, simply because the load pressure doesn't fall.
Unless you use NOS while shifting gears, when the rpm drops instead of keeping the rpm up with the pedal, NOS will not have any on load pressure delay - yet I wonder how long your engine would last with NOS between each gear shift...
Does Loki's post look edited to you (?) it sure doesn't look edited to me.
Stop trolling the forum.
Post by: beige on August 14, 2005, 10:30:00 PM
2, i give up trying to explain anything to you
Post by: vingasoline on September 04, 2005, 05:57:00 PM
QUOTE(therealmikeg @ Jun 20 2005, 01:29 PM)
NOS, turbos, and superchargers don't add HP. They add torque, but whatever.
This is by far, the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read in my whole life...
How about this: antifreeze doesn't cool off the engine, it prevents freezing.
Turbo lag is most common in first gear, because the turbo needs to spool(spin as fast as it can to reach the desired pressure) The bigger the turbo, the more lag there is.. Not much lag between shifting since it is fully spooled already.
Post by: Deadman1515 on September 04, 2005, 11:16:00 PM
QUOTE(misterhoangdai @ Jun 8 2005, 07:53 PM)
nos doesn't add horsepower. but anyways, i prefer the realism over a screen where everything is blurry but your car. all that high speed stuff is getting old...
Are you retarded, put a car on a dyno, run it with no spray, next run with spray. It does add HP AND tourqe. Its an oxidzer so it helps fuels burn faster and hotter, how when it vaporizes when injection the nitrogen seperates from the oxygen which IS flamable, and the more O2 in the motor the more fuel you can run. Not to mention it cools the intake charge which makes the air more dense, more air means more power.
Post by: myblackpony on September 05, 2005, 12:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Deadman1515 @ Sep 5 2005, 06:51 AM)
Are you retarded, put a car on a dyno, run it with no spray, next run with spray. It does add HP AND tourqe. Its an oxidzer so it helps fuels burn faster and hotter, how when it vaporizes when injection the nitrogen seperates from the oxygen which IS flamable, and the more O2 in the motor the more fuel you can run. Not to mention it cools the intake charge which makes the air more dense, more air means more power.
yeah, whatever :cool2:
Post by: vitalsnipes on June 20, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: DOS4GW on June 20, 2006, 02:24:00 PM
Post by: FSG on June 21, 2006, 04:31:00 AM
Sep 5 2005, 02:14 AM
Wow.
Post by: vitalsnipes on June 22, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
AND...ur wrong about "turbo lag" theres always lag, you may just not notice it, and i'd like to see a car tht put out that much power without any "turbo lag"... even turbo powered drag cars have "turbo lag" and they admit to it!!!
Post by: netdroid9 on June 27, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
Post by: Deadfast on March 11, 2007, 01:58:00 AM
QUOTE(vingasoline @ Sep 4 2005, 03:28 PM)
This is by far, the absolute stupidest thing I have ever read in my whole life...
How about this: antifreeze doesn't cool off the engine, it prevents freezing.
Actually, antifreeze DOESN'T cool off the engine. It's the water that has all the heat absorption properties. Thats why you have to mix anti-freeze with water (some types come pre-mixed). The anti freeze lowers the freezing temperature of the water. Thats why when theres ice all over your car in the morning, your coolant system isn't all frozen up too... cause that would be bad... Anti freeze also has junk in it that helps slow down corrosion. I believe it may also increase the boiling point of water... but I'm not completely sure on that.
edit: and btw... to stay on topic... whens the last time you were watching a professional race on tv, and a driver who was neck and neck with an opponent on a straightaway hit the nitrous? I'm extremely glad they left nitrous out of forza, and I won't be very happy if it shows up in forza 2.
This post has been edited by Deadfast: Mar 11 2007, 10:01 AM
Post by: punge on March 11, 2007, 07:51:00 PM
Post by: madmike0408 on July 04, 2007, 02:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Deadfast @ Mar 11 2007, 09:58 AM) 
Actually, antifreeze DOESN'T cool off the engine. It's the water that has all the heat absorption properties. Thats why you have to mix anti-freeze with water (some types come pre-mixed). The anti freeze lowers the freezing temperature of the water. Thats why when theres ice all over your car in the morning, your coolant system isn't all frozen up too... cause that would be bad... Anti freeze also has junk in it that helps slow down corrosion. I believe it may also increase the boiling point of water... but I'm not completely sure on that.
edit: and btw... to stay on topic... whens the last time you were watching a professional race on tv, and a driver who was neck and neck with an opponent on a straightaway hit the nitrous? I'm extremely glad they left nitrous out of forza, and I won't be very happy if it shows up in forza 2.
lol you sir, are wrong. put water alone in your car and see what happens. it will boil and you will overheat. antifreeze cools the engine as well as prevents it from freezing. antifreeze doesnt lower the freezing point of water, it combines with the water and forms a different substance.
Post by: happykillmore on July 04, 2007, 03:44:00 PM
QUOTE(madmike0408 @ Jul 4 2007, 03:49 PM)
lol you sir, are wrong. put water alone in your car and see what happens. it will boil and you will overheat. antifreeze cools the engine as well as prevents it from freezing. antifreeze doesnt lower the freezing point of water, it combines with the water and forms a different substance.
lol, you come in here talking shit. Antifreeze does lower the freezing point of water as so do many other substances such as salt. Go back to chemistry... and don't bring old threads up.
Post by: race_demon on March 29, 2008, 06:32:00 AM
ive never drained my bikes coolant over winter or used antifreeze i lucky i havent split block
and yeah i can see tiy bits of rust in the rad so your right and killman i cant remember his name
is spot on
nitrous splits into nitrogen and oxygen which whe added to extra fuel increases the power
(effectively making a bigger bang/engine)
even if it did just add torque if you at torque to any speed your adding power
300lb/ft of torque at 4000rpm is more powerful than 200lb/ft at 4k
this game (and F2) needs fully programmable ecu's (for low power pulling, or
high end hp numbers or a mix)
who's got the old viper and put the ratio's to maximum accel fd and 1st top speeds like 2mph
we need trucks on this thing lol
anyways this is my first post so forgive me, all in all this is the best game end of but it needs to
take ibts off other games
Post by: hydroxycut3 on January 22, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(misterhoangdai @ Jun 9 2005, 12:42 AM)
nos doesn't add horsepower.
Do you have any knowledge of cars?