Post by: davicoro on December 24, 2004, 10:13:00 PM
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Q: Why can't I put real PSX cds into my XBox DVDROM drive and have PCSXBox run them? I can do the same kind of thing with HUGO and NeoGenesis, so why not PCSXBox?
Can you make a tool that will rip my PSX cds onto my XBox?
A: PSX cds are completely different beasts than PCE CDs and SegaCDs. PSX cds are written with Mode2 XA sectors whereas the others are not. I have tried many different ways to read Mode2 XA sectors and the closest I got was getting the XBox to actually read the sectors, but at only 2.5KB per second. Considering that this is about 50x slower than a 1x CDROM drive, I think it's pretty obvious that gaming performance would be extremely poor. Please note that Mode2 XA is different than Mode2 Yellowbook (which is what VCDs are written with) - so XBMP's code is not a solution.
I'm aware that if you install linux on your XBox and then run a linux version of a PSX emulator that it can read PSX cds. I believe the problem lies somewhere in the XDK. Obviously there is a solution to the problem, but the specifics are elusive. I cannot answer "when" it will be solved because if I had enough information to tell you "when", then it would be finished by now already.
Furthermore, if I could write a tool that reads PSX cds and dump them to the HD, I would be able to make PCSXBox read PSX cds. If you want to wait 75 hours (650MB at 2.5KB/sec) for the XBox to rip/write your CD onto the HD, then I've got just what you need. I think it would be faster to rip it on your PC and then upload it to your XBox, though.....
Can you make a tool that will rip my PSX cds onto my XBox?
A: PSX cds are completely different beasts than PCE CDs and SegaCDs. PSX cds are written with Mode2 XA sectors whereas the others are not. I have tried many different ways to read Mode2 XA sectors and the closest I got was getting the XBox to actually read the sectors, but at only 2.5KB per second. Considering that this is about 50x slower than a 1x CDROM drive, I think it's pretty obvious that gaming performance would be extremely poor. Please note that Mode2 XA is different than Mode2 Yellowbook (which is what VCDs are written with) - so XBMP's code is not a solution.
I'm aware that if you install linux on your XBox and then run a linux version of a PSX emulator that it can read PSX cds. I believe the problem lies somewhere in the XDK. Obviously there is a solution to the problem, but the specifics are elusive. I cannot answer "when" it will be solved because if I had enough information to tell you "when", then it would be finished by now already.
Furthermore, if I could write a tool that reads PSX cds and dump them to the HD, I would be able to make PCSXBox read PSX cds. If you want to wait 75 hours (650MB at 2.5KB/sec) for the XBox to rip/write your CD onto the HD, then I've got just what you need. I think it would be faster to rip it on your PC and then upload it to your XBox, though.....
I dont know if this can be done but maybe is posible that that someone make a linux app for xbox to rip the psone game from the dvdrom to the HDD for this emulator... :uhh: something like psx2xbox or PCSXRipper :unsure:
If this is a stupid comment please ingore this message
Post by: davicoro on December 31, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: Ed_209 on January 02, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
I have never used linux on xbox, but I am sure there are tons of apps for linux that can make .bin and .cue files. Maybe someone out there can make a special linux package that has just the special tools needed to make a bin and cue file. If anyone out there can point out some names for user-friendly linux apps that can do this please share!
In the meantime I'll start seeing what I can find.
Post by: Navis on January 02, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
Post by: davicoro on January 03, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
thanks for the insterest on this idea... i know is the time of developer but if noneone ask of it, or if there is not too many people that show that they like the idea, then noneone will start to doit...
i know xport is doing the best trying to make thinks for this... this is just one idea in case xport have not look at this posibility...
keep the great work xport!
Post by: PrismSub5 on January 04, 2005, 05:59:00 AM
Or a original tweaked dvdplayer?
Post by: total_ass on January 04, 2005, 06:38:00 AM
it's not a hardware issue, not really anyway. it's more about software.
Post by: davicoro on January 04, 2005, 06:40:00 AM
QUOTE(PrismSub5 @ Jan 4 2005, 01:54 PM)
And what if you put in a modded dvdplayer like the samsung 616?
Or a original tweaked dvdplayer?
Or a original tweaked dvdplayer?
the problem is not the dvd rom... is the xbox developers tool (aka xdk)
xboxlinux can read those games using the same xbox dvdrom. but seems like the apps maked whit the xdk do not have the avility to read psx disc format at the needed speed.
This post has been edited by davicoro: Jan 4 2005, 02:41 PM
Post by: Ed_209 on January 07, 2005, 10:25:00 AM
If someone out there wants to experiment with this dynebolic program to see if they can rip playstation games with a usb drive (or the xbox drive itself?)... here is the link to the torrent so you can try out dynebolic yourself:
http://torrent.dyne.org/
So at this point the most you will need is an external usb cd/dvd drive/burner and maybe people out there without a pc can have some sort of way to create their own images without the need for a pc.
Yeah I know this sounds like a lot of crap to go through just to make a cd image, but I am just trying to point out any possible way for people to make cd-images without a pc.
Post by: edudlive on January 07, 2005, 02:57:00 PM
Post by: EnterDaMatrix on January 07, 2005, 03:17:00 PM