Post by: tank09 on October 24, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
p.s. the best the xbox can emulate is n64( woundering if sega dreamcast is possible in the future)
Post by: VampX on October 24, 2005, 09:35:00 PM
And when you do.. pay carefull attention to how people get treated when they ask for saturn emu's!
then log out and pray that they dont see this thread..
Post by: tank09 on October 24, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
Post by: VampX on October 25, 2005, 07:20:00 AM
QUOTE(tank09 @ Oct 25 2005, 07:25 AM)
ok that was weird what do people have against the sega saturn. theres worst systems out there. happen to grow up with sega.
We have nothing against the Saturn, but against people like you who dont do their research so what we get is :
1 - Almost every week someone makes a new thread suggesting that we make a Saturn emu,
(thats 48 times a year getting the same thread and giving the same answers)
2 - since 99% of the xbox emulators are ported from windows emulators and there isnt a good Saturn emu to port..
(dont bother looking, we've heard it all before)
3 - imagine me coming into your house four times a month and telling you how cool it would be to have "something"
and yet everytime you tell me the same.. old.. story.. that i'm telling you now,
lets see how long its gonna take before you get tired of it.
4 - we've heard it all before, so reply with what you want :D
This post has been edited by VampX: Oct 25 2005, 02:33 PM
Post by: kadimkris on October 30, 2005, 02:30:00 PM
good job on all the ports btw, thanks for all that u have done. keep up the good work and keep em coming.
Post by: racketboy on November 20, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
It will be quite a while before we even have a solid Saturn emu on the PC, let alone the XBox
Post by: alexlexus on April 21, 2006, 08:56:00 PM
i can play guardian heros , burning ranges and more.
best emu out and a solid one too.
if you say there isn't a good saturn emu you are sadly mistaken.
hell i want a saturn emu too and if he doesn't know to look cut him some slack if he is
new.
link to a good saturn emu that runs commerical games:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OSP1RN9P
now i hope those who say that here isn't a good emu out
can eat there words.
Post by: madmab on April 22, 2006, 01:01:00 AM
Again... Search is your friend...
Post by: georaldc on April 22, 2006, 01:10:00 AM
Post by: VampX on April 22, 2006, 06:04:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ Apr 22 2006, 05:03 AM) 
there is a good saturn emu i use.
Good for you.
i can play guardian heros , burning ranges and more.
And all on your xbox? cause thats what this entire thread is about.
best emu out and a solid one too.
Its also NOT OPEN SOURCE
if you say there isn't a good saturn emu you are sadly mistaken.
No i am not, since this is not about windows based emulators.
hell i want a saturn emu too and if he doesn't know to look cut him some slack if he is
new.
No he's not since this thread is from 2005!!!
link to a good saturn emu that runs commerical games:
Not opensource and its creator doesnt even have a working website.
(and the entire readme is in japanese so yay for going to contact him if you can even find him at all)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OSP1RN9P
Wow! megaupload.com? thats one of the best and biggest emulator sites, very profesional linking there buddy.
now i hope those who say that here isn't a good emu out
can eat there words.
The entire idea is that this is an XBOX!!!! site, where we discuss PORTING!!!, to our beloved XBOX!!!! console,
not "thies windowz emoe is vry good, it rox and yoo sux cause it wroks very good for me!!!"
if he wanted to discuss windows emulators he should go to an emulation site that focuses on WINDOWS not XBOX.
Now lets quote some of my post from 2005!!!
QUOTE(VampX @ Somewhere in the LAST YEAR)
2 - since 99% of the xbox emulators are ported from windows emulators and there isnt a good Saturn emu to port..
(dont bother looking, we've heard it all before)
4 - we've heard it all before, so reply with what you want.
Post by: Consoleman! on April 22, 2006, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: Hawq on April 22, 2006, 08:45:00 AM
Post by: alexlexus on April 22, 2006, 10:35:00 AM
cause i heard to can do that with some porgrams from
a friend at njit in newark new jersey.
Post by: VampX on April 22, 2006, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ Apr 22 2006, 06:42 PM)
is there a way to get a decompiler to get the codes?
cause i heard to can do that with some porgrams from
a friend at njit in newark new jersey.
QUOTE(VampX @ Oct 25 2005, 03:27 PM)
4 - we've heard it all before, so reply with what you want.
Post by: Manabyte on April 23, 2006, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: Likklebaer on April 23, 2006, 11:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Manabyte @ Apr 23 2006, 05:48 PM)
God Vamp, could you let up a little? The guy obviously is very new to Xbox emulation. Yes there are daily threads asking for a Saturn emulator but, believe it or not, there are people not savvy enough to navigate their way around this site. Not everyone is aware that a Windows emulator needs to have open source (or at least source give by the original author), and that the Xbox probably doesn't have the horse power to run a playable Saturn emu anyways. Instead of waiting for his replies to rip him to shreads, why not use your knowledge for better use and help people who could really use your insight? You have a lot of experience, and you're very intelligent with this stuff.
QUOTE(VampX @ Oct 25 2005, 03:27 PM)
4 - we've heard it all before, so reply with what you want.
Post by: alexlexus on April 25, 2006, 10:37:00 AM
here is the SFF sega saturn source code
so portting shouldn't be a problem.
you're welcome. also if psx can be emulated so can the saturn.
Post by: VampX on April 25, 2006, 11:03:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ Apr 25 2006, 06:44 PM)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7S0GVTA5
here is the SFF sega saturn source code
so portting shouldn't be a problem.
you're welcome. also if psx can be emulated so can the saturn.
QUOTE
/* This file was automatically created by
* Reverse Engineering Compiler 2.0 © Giampiero Caprino (Sep 19 2005)
* Input file: 'D:\arcade\SSF_007_alpha_R11\SSF.exe'
Post by: madmab on April 25, 2006, 05:53:00 PM
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Post by: VampX on April 26, 2006, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE(madmab @ Apr 26 2006, 02:00 AM)
D00D!!! dont laugh!! itz teh surcecode!! we'z gunna get us a portz of a seturn emu atlast!!!
Post by: alexlexus on April 26, 2006, 08:20:00 AM
i deserved to be laughed at.
Post by: Sirmatto on April 26, 2006, 10:20:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ Apr 26 2006, 05:27 AM)
you know i thought i was on to something buti was mistaken.
i deserved to be laughed at.
At least you admitted your faults. That's the first of 69 gajillion steps towards salvation with VampX
Post by: VampX on April 26, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ Apr 26 2006, 06:27 PM)
At least you admitted your faults. That's the first of 69 gajillion steps towards salvation with VampX
Quick Salvation can be achieved by sending me naked pics of either your sister or girlfriend.
as long as they are not fat.
Cause VampX dont like Fat Chicks.
Post by: madmab on April 26, 2006, 08:11:00 PM
I believe the saturn emu was mentioned in there as well. First post actually..
QUOTE
Cassini/Saturn - While technically the source is available for this Saturn emulator, it is primarily one (very) large assembly file which looks like it was created by simply running the GiriGiri EXE file through a disassembler. Porting x86 assembly to the XBox is not generally a problem, but in this case the code makes all sorts of calls to Windows GDI routines that are not implemented in the XBox SDK. This means that in order to port it, I'd have to implement those API calls myself or try to hand-edit the assembly file. Both of those tasks would be extremely tedious and therefore this project is not something that particularly interests me.
Post by: Sirmatto on April 26, 2006, 09:53:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Apr 26 2006, 08:40 AM)
Quick Salvation can be achieved by sending me naked pics of either your sister or girlfriend.
as long as they are not fat.
Cause VampX dont like Fat Chicks.
Post by: VampX on April 27, 2006, 06:19:00 AM
...
...
oh crap curiousity getting the best of me again...
Post by: Sirmatto on April 27, 2006, 08:49:00 AM
Not as funny as the original one, but I can't be had by FortuneCity.
This post has been edited by Sirmatto: Apr 27 2006, 03:50 PM
Post by: Lamer123 on April 27, 2006, 10:11:00 AM
LINKED
Second one down .
All from zophars domain . I always used cassini as a saturn emu , is thier a better one ??
This post has been edited by Lamer123: Apr 27 2006, 05:12 PM
Post by: VampX on April 27, 2006, 10:33:00 AM
QUOTE(Lamer123 @ Apr 27 2006, 06:18 PM)
I thought the cassini source was released ?
Seriously you guys dont read do you?
madmab clearly quoted why the cassini "source" isnt really a source.
Post by: Lamer123 on April 27, 2006, 11:26:00 AM
edit: i see the post now , You mean you actually want me to read stuff before i just blindly post ?
This post has been edited by Lamer123: Apr 27 2006, 06:28 PM
Post by: VampX on April 27, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Lamer123 @ Apr 27 2006, 07:33 PM)
You mean you actually want me to read stuff before i just blindly post ?
Ofcourse not, people like me would have nothing to bitch about if everybody did that,
so here's to blind posting all around the world!
Post by: Sirmatto on April 27, 2006, 01:44:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Apr 27 2006, 09:21 AM)
Ofcourse not, people like me would have nothing to bitch about if everybody did that,
so here's to blind posting all around the world! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Hear, hear! I'll drink to that
(IMG:http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/6599/camel30nm.jpg)
Now I'm off to eat the three Billy Goats Gruff
This post has been edited by Sirmatto: Apr 27 2006, 08:48 PM
Post by: alexlexus on April 28, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Apr 26 2006, 01:40 PM)
Quick Salvation can be achieved by sending me naked pics of either your sister or girlfriend.
as long as they are not fat.
Cause VampX dont like Fat Chicks.
no pics of my girlfriend............
no pics of my sister................
no pics.
Post by: VampX on April 29, 2006, 04:46:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ Apr 29 2006, 05:28 AM)
no pics of my girlfriend............
no pics of my sister................
no pics.
Post by: alexlexus on May 02, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
there has to be a way to get the codes.
if there isn;t this kinda sucks cause this is the best one out.
Post by: enderandrew on May 03, 2006, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ May 3 2006, 04:42 AM)
lol
there has to be a way to get the codes.
if there isn;t this kinda sucks cause this is the best one out.
There is a way. You contact the author and kindly ask them to release the source code.
Post by: VampX on May 03, 2006, 04:52:00 AM
QUOTE(enderandrew @ May 3 2006, 11:25 AM)
There is a way. You contact the author and kindly ask them to release the source code.
Post by: Sirmatto on May 03, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ May 2 2006, 06:42 PM)
lol
there has to be a way to get the codes.
if there isn;t this kinda sucks cause this is the best one out.
Or: http://yabause.sourceforge.net/
But it still doesn't matter, it's too much for our poor little Xboxes to handle and it's never gonna happen...
Post by: VampX on May 03, 2006, 01:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ May 3 2006, 05:39 PM)
Or: http://yabause.sourceforge.net/
But it still doesn't matter, it's too much for our poor little Xboxes to handle and it's never gonna happen...
Oh boy now he's gonna haunt us with "they R p0rting it to teh DC so xb0x is possible!!! Xport make it so!!"
Sure that DC port is never going to run at a good speed but hey as long as it makes DC fanboys happy..
Post by: Consoleman! on May 03, 2006, 01:49:00 PM
Here's what you'll need:
Trust me it really works
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Post by: Chron Johnson on May 03, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
Post by: guybird on May 03, 2006, 07:51:00 PM
QUOTE
I demand all mockery efforts be refocused to chiding coders into releasing a CD-i / 3D0 solution rather than something with like 8 processors.
Hear Hear!!! As much as I'd like all systems to be eventually ported to Xbox, I'd much rather have a 3do solution. It's already almost 100% emulated (works great on my PC or my real 3do) but I'd prefer an Xbox solution.
Post by: Sirmatto on May 03, 2006, 08:52:00 PM
QUOTE(Chron Johnson @ May 3 2006, 03:33 PM)
rather than something with like 8 processors.
And I think 8 processors is an understatement, the correct term you are looking for is a flotilla of processors.
Post by: Chron Johnson on May 04, 2006, 08:39:00 AM
And hell, my Dreamcast can emulate the 3D0. I don't think practical hardware concerns are the problem here...more like a lack of progress on a Windows 3D0 emulator for years. And the fact that FreeD0 was a commercial product or some nonsense. Clearly indicated by the word Free being in its title. Would one have to be a Linux superhero to prepackage an installation that would automatically execute winex and subsequently run FreeD0 under it, or is that the thinking of a madman.
Post by: Nemo1985X on May 08, 2006, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: VampX on May 08, 2006, 03:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Nemo1985X @ May 8 2006, 11:31 PM)
I'm shocked that no one has tried "HLE" like emulation with the saturn.. or Jaguar or ETC. ETC..
Because N64 emulation was such a succes right?
Post by: VampX on May 08, 2006, 04:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ May 4 2006, 04:59 AM)
The 3DO emulator for the Xbox is like 18 months in coming and almost to a hoax-like status.
No Way of the Warrior for Vampy?
Post by: Nemo1985X on May 08, 2006, 09:00:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ May 8 2006, 04:40 PM)
Because N64 emulation was such a succes right?
RIGHT-O (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleep.gif)
Post by: Sirmatto on May 08, 2006, 11:37:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ May 8 2006, 01:14 PM)
No Way of the Warrior for Vampy?
That's what happens when you make baby Jesus cry
Post by: alexlexus on May 09, 2006, 11:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ May 3 2006, 11:39 AM)
Or: http://yabause.sourceforge.net/
But it still doesn't matter, it's too much for our poor little Xboxes to handle and it's never gonna happen...
n64, playstation, mame and those large roms and yet no faith in a saturn emu?
the xbox is almighty
it can do it.
Post by: Opoth on May 09, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ May 9 2006, 07:04 PM)
n64, playstation, mame and those large roms and yet no faith in a saturn emu?
the xbox is almighty
it can do it.
Cool, make it happen. I'm looking forward to seeing what you manage to code.
Post by: VampX on May 09, 2006, 01:04:00 PM
QUOTE(alexlexus @ May 9 2006, 08:04 PM)
n64, playstation, mame and those large roms and yet no faith in a saturn emu?
the xbox is almighty
it can do it.
Oh shutted uppeth please.
Post by: SlyBeast on May 10, 2006, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: Sirmatto on May 10, 2006, 11:17:00 PM
QUOTE(SlyBeast @ May 10 2006, 02:42 PM)
It's sad that this garbage post has stayed as active as it has when there are other threads that are certainly more deserving of attention.
It's not like by posting in this thread that we become incapacitated to the point of not being able to post in other threads.
Post by: Jonesy_47 on May 13, 2006, 03:32:00 PM
Update: Not good. Saturn Shack says its not open source. im still not sure but im not holding my breath at this point (not that i really ever was). Worth a shot i guess...
This post has been edited by Jonesy_47: May 13 2006, 10:49 PM
Post by: VampX on May 13, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
QUOTE(Sirmatto @ May 11 2006, 07:24 AM)
It's not like by posting in this thread that we become incapacitated to the point of not being able to post in other threads.
must..only..post..here!!!
QUOTE(Jonesy_47 @ May 13 2006, 11:39 PM)
Update: Not good. Saturn Shack says its not open source. im still not sure but im not holding
my breath at this point (not that i really ever was). Worth a shot i guess...
i think we pretty much allready established that it wasnt opensource..
Post by: Jonesy_47 on May 13, 2006, 04:30:00 PM
Post by: georaldc on May 13, 2006, 05:51:00 PM
Post by: AmyGrrl on May 13, 2006, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: guybird on May 13, 2006, 06:27:00 PM
Post by: Jonesy_47 on May 14, 2006, 03:50:00 AM
Post by: georaldc on May 14, 2006, 06:17:00 AM
QUOTE(AmyGrrl @ May 14 2006, 08:30 AM)
After reading this thread... it makes me glad I still have my modded Saturn.... =
=I gotta look for a way to mod my saturn too. Damn that swap trick method. I've only had success 2 out of 30 or more tries, lol. Swapping is a nightmare, especially ifyou have a model 2 saturn like me
Post by: A Murder of Crows on May 14, 2006, 03:48:00 PM
QUOTE(georaldc @ May 14 2006, 05:24 AM)
I gotta look for a way to mod my saturn too. Damn that swap trick method. I've only had success 2 out of 30 or more tries, lol. Swapping is a nightmare, especially ifyou have a model 2 saturn like me
I used to mod saturns back in the day....when i get all caught up on my projects, i've got around 11 saturn systems here due for mods.....if only i could clone myself...
QUOTE(Jonesy_47 @ May 13 2006, 02:39 PM)
Argah, i feel like an ass for saying this but that ssf build alexlexus left a link for has potential. I wouldnt normally say that but it was running pretty much top-speed on my piece of shit laptop (MUCH better than girigiri-cassini ever did on my highend desktop). I really have no idea whether or not this is open source tho. I just put up a post on his(her?) site asking but it was an alta-vista translation question so i have no idea if my question even makes sense. What i DO know is that it was running Panzer Dragoon and Policenauts very well on my 1.3 ghz processor laptop with very little memory and spyware havoc galore. Cripes, psx doesnt even work well at all on my laptop. Maybe i just want this to exist far too much...whatever, at least (hopefully, if my question made any sense at all) we'll know if this thing is open source or not.
Update: Not good. Saturn Shack says its not open source. im still not sure but im not holding my breath at this point (not that i really ever was). Worth a shot i guess...
I was under the impression that no emulator for saturn exists that will run on anything short of an AMD64 chip. I've got an athlonXP 3200 barton and SSF won't run on my system at all.
Post by: georaldc on May 14, 2006, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ May 15 2006, 05:55 AM)
I used to mod saturns back in the day....when i get all caught up on my projects, i've got around 11 saturn systems here due for mods.....if only i could clone myself...
I was under the impression that no emulator for saturn exists that will run on anything short of an AMD64 chip. I've got an athlonXP 3200 barton and SSF won't run on my system at all.
SSF uses SSE2. Athlon xp cpus don't support sse2 (only semprons and above I believe, as well as Pentium 4s), which explains why it won't boot on your pc.
Post by: A Murder of Crows on May 14, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
QUOTE(georaldc @ May 14 2006, 06:02 PM)
SSF uses SSE2. Athlon xp cpus don't support sse2 (only semprons and above I believe, as well as Pentium 4s), which explains why it won't boot on your pc.
*sighs* stupid SSF.....not a fan of cassini, but GiriGiri worked fine for me for the most part.
Post by: VampX on May 15, 2006, 06:24:00 AM
then Xport can reverse engineer SFF in a couple minutes and port it to the xbox.
like alexlexus would say "it can be done!!"
sarcasm..overload...
Post by: georaldc on May 15, 2006, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(A Murder of Crows @ May 15 2006, 09:05 AM)
*sighs* stupid SSF.....not a fan of cassini, but GiriGiri worked fine for me for the most part.
Well, I guess it was to improve overall performance. But man, I used to use cassini before, but when I got a new a64 cpu and tried SSF, I never looked back. Its just plain better than cassini, and I appreciate the author, who actually does his best to improve the emulator, unlike frankenstein-put together job cassini.
Post by: enderandrew on May 16, 2006, 11:56:00 PM
Don't flame him and call him a moron when you didn't read/comprehend what he wrote.
Post by: VampX on May 18, 2006, 09:13:00 AM
QUOTE(bmurf @ May 17 2006, 07:58 AM)
do your research. there are 52 weeks in a year. moron.
learn to read moron.
Post by: A Murder of Crows on May 19, 2006, 10:16:00 PM
QUOTE(AmyGrrl @ May 19 2006, 08:01 PM)
You should.. it's one of the easiest to mod.. I only had to solder 2 wires... the timing wire and the power wire.... I got my Saturn ModChip from Lik-Sang years ago.... before they were forced to stop selling mod stuff... was worth every penny... I wish thier was a way to tunnel Netlink games over the internet would love to play some of the 5 whole games that support it....*sigh*
Racketboy and jandaman both sell saturn chips. the SegaExtreme forums showed how to make the newer chips work on the older systems.
someone could write a tunneling program to work with the netlink if they tried hard enough...but no one will, i'm sure.
Post by: aldercy101 on February 09, 2008, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: VampX on February 09, 2008, 03:47:00 PM
QUOTE(aldercy101 @ Feb 9 2008, 06:40 PM)
nope doupt it would happen, sega saturn wasnt that popular so it wouldnt be worth trying to make an emulator for it on the xbox
Why did you feel you had to bump a thread from 2006? you did not even add anything interesting to the conversation.
DON'T BUMP OLD THREADS!
Post by: HotKnife420 on February 21, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Feb 10 2008, 12:23 AM)
DON'T BUMP OLD THREADS!
Since someone else *did* bump it, I'll assume it safe to add a post to it
I recently came across a site from a dude developing a saturn emu for windows (I think) called SaturnTV. I've still got a Saturn, but I'd love to see an emu, especially if there's hopes of a port on the 360/PS3 (once homebrew blows up, that is).
Post by: VampX on February 22, 2008, 10:01:00 AM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Feb 22 2008, 05:06 AM)
Since someone else *did* bump it, I'll assume it safe to add a post to it
I recently came across a site from a dude developing a saturn emu for windows (I think) called SaturnTV. I've still got a Saturn, but I'd love to see an emu, especially if there's hopes of a port on the 360/PS3 (once homebrew blows up, that is).
Looks interesting enough, though the person working on it does not seem to work on it actively,
judging from his posts on the main site and his forum its pretty much an on/off project for him.
(one post in his forum mentioned that he's been working on it since 2003 or something)
I think it will be quite some time before it reaches perfect emulation like epsxe did for PS1.
Post by: HotKnife420 on February 23, 2008, 05:56:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Feb 22 2008, 06:37 PM)
Looks interesting enough, though the person working on it does not seem to work on it actively,
judging from his posts on the main site and his forum its pretty much an on/off project for him.
(one post in his forum mentioned that he's been working on it since 2003 or something)
I think it will be quite some time before it reaches perfect emulation like epsxe did for PS1.
I believe if anything, we might see one once homebrew activity spikes on either the 360 or the PS3. I think more people with programming skill will be interested in. Especially considering making it a mini-PC of sorts (capable CPU/GPU/RAM, HD content, etc) that's very cost effective. Even the design of the case itself is somewhat PC-esque, but I digress...
Either way, someone's still gonna have to do it right, before we can begin crossing our fingers.
Post by: VampX on February 24, 2008, 10:15:00 AM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Feb 24 2008, 02:32 AM)
I believe if anything, we might see one once homebrew activity spikes on either the 360 or the PS3.
wishfull thinking, but i reaaaaaaaally doubt that someone will just make a Saturn emulator because the 360 or PS3 are capable of homebrews.
99% of the emulators we have on the xbox1 are ports of PC emulators, and it will be the same for the 360 and PS3,
i really doubt some programmer will wake up and say "omg xbox360 & ps3 run homebrew now? time to create that Saturn emulator!"
if anything those consoles will get a port of a PC based emulator, but then it will still be pcsxbox all over again.
(which brings us to the funny topic of people believing emulation becomes better with higher cpu speeds)
So many people think that speed is everything, but did you know that if epsxe was opensource we'd have
an excellent ps1 emulator on our xbox by now? sure no heavy filters and high res options,
but we'd have an amazing ps1 emulator that ran pretty much whatever we'd throw at it.
yet so many people think that pcsxbox will magically become the best emulator when it gets that extra cpu speed to work with.
(seriously i've seen so many posts where people ask if more ram or cpu will fix the poor emulation)
the emu itself is poor people! a faster cpu or more ram won't change that.
Same with the Saturn, most coders would prefer to create their "ultimate" Saturn emulator on PC
before porting it to a console, there's just more people to reach on the PC platform.
I predict that we'll get excellent ports of the emulators we already have on the xbox1,
and some enhanced ports like MAME that will use the extra ram and cpu of the 360/ps3
and maybe we'll notice a sliiiiiight improvement in the N64 and PS1 emulation, but only slightly,
(more ram and cpu are always handy, but it just wont fix the poor emulation of the original emulator)
not that it matters, people will demand PS2 emulators anyway, because the threesixtaaay and da pee-es-three can easily run a ps2 emulator right? rite??
and we'll get a port of pcsx2, which emulates even worse then pcsx1.
the more things change the more they stay the same, and in the end we'll still have no Saturn emu
Post by: VampX on March 01, 2008, 09:22:00 AM
QUOTE(xRaVeNx @ Mar 1 2008, 04:51 PM)
if thats what you call decent then i don't want to know what you call bad, because that emulator (though very promising)
is not decent, i just tried out a couple games and the only one that was playable was Akumajo Dracula X Nocturne in the Moonlight,
the others (golden axe, street fighter zero 3, mortal kombat trilogy, house of the dead, all had problems.
golden axe ran okay but with video bugs and everything was slooooow (on my 3ghz pc)
sfz3 wouldnt even boot, mk trilogy would not even show up correctly and was slow, and house of the dead just crashed the emulator.
the idea of porting an emulator is that you can actually use it to play games.
Post by: VampX on March 01, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
QUOTE(xRaVeNx @ Mar 1 2008, 06:32 PM)
Doesn't mean it isn't possible..
I know its not impossible, its just kinda.. its not really worth it right now.
but when that emulator gets better compatability i'd love to see a port to xbox.
(if it got a DC port its probably optimized to the max, so an xbox port would be possible)
but right now i just don't see why anyone would want to bother with doing a port, the emulation really needs allot more work.
but its looking extremely promising, if he keeps up the good work then maybe in 1 or 2 years
an xbox port of it would be a very nice thing to have.
Post by: xRaVeNx on March 04, 2008, 07:14:00 PM
Thats the exact same as saying, why port any of these or even have emulators since the xbox has better graphics...
Did you even play a Sega Saturn, Guardian Heroes & Shining Force 3 & Policenauts, top Saturn Games
You know what, I would buy a Saturn, if it didn't have a copy protection, like a dreamcast, or if it didn't take up space, thats like buying every system and game, for every emulator and rom, that I have on my xbox...
get real
Post by: HotKnife420 on March 06, 2008, 03:08:00 PM
QUOTE(VampX @ Mar 1 2008, 05:58 PM)
if thats what you call decent then i don't want to know what you call bad, because that emulator (though very promising)
is not decent, i just tried out a couple games and the only one that was playable was Akumajo Dracula X Nocturne in the Moonlight,
the others (golden axe, street fighter zero 3, mortal kombat trilogy, house of the dead, all had problems.
golden axe ran okay but with video bugs and everything was slooooow (on my 3ghz pc)
sfz3 wouldnt even boot, mk trilogy would not even show up correctly and was slow, and house of the dead just crashed the emulator.
the idea of porting an emulator is that you can actually use it to play games.
QUOTE(VampX @ Feb 24 2008, 06:51 PM)
So many people think that speed is everything, but did you know that if epsxe was opensource we'd have
an excellent ps1 emulator on our xbox by now? sure no heavy filters and high res options,
but we'd have an amazing ps1 emulator that ran pretty much whatever we'd throw at it.
Post by: xRaVeNx on March 06, 2008, 09:09:00 PM
Yea, thats a 'whole lot' of no one wanting one...
Man, please...
'nuff said...
Post by: hellknight on March 06, 2008, 10:42:00 PM
QUOTE(xRaVeNx @ Mar 6 2008, 11:45 PM)
6+ Pages of discussing the possibility of a Saturn Emulator on Xbox...
Yea, thats a 'whole lot' of no one wanting one...
Man, please...
'nuff said...
First off its 6 pages of a few ppl saying they want it and the rest saying its not gonna happen second theres must alot of intrest in it since the topic officially died may 14 2006 and then some idiot necroed it on feb 9 2008 so yeah that proves ppl are really interested in it please man some emu's have 60 pages of intrest I suggest that the mods just close this thread, a saturn emu on the xbox may never come out so there is no need to leave this open for a flame war
Post by: VampX on March 07, 2008, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(xRaVeNx @ Mar 7 2008, 05:45 AM)
6+ Pages of discussing the possibility of a Saturn Emulator on Xbox...
More like :
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Newbie : SUM1 MAKE SATURN EMOU ON XBOX
Old member : not possible "shitload of reasons"
Newbie : U HAVENT TRIED THIS EMOELATOR YET!
Old member : yes we have, either no source or the emulator is not advanced enough yet.
*Newbie insults the old member for hating on the Saturn*
*topic dies and time passes*
Post by: scitek on March 13, 2008, 11:44:00 PM
Example 1
Example 2
EDIT: And I have a US Saturn.
Post by: VampX on March 14, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
QUOTE(scitek @ Mar 14 2008, 07:20 AM)
Eh, I can understand how people would want a Saturn emulator. I ran a search because I'm interested in playing Radiant Silvergun and Panzer Dragoon Saga, and they're not games that'll ever be had "dirt cheap", unfortunately.
Example 1
Example 2
EDIT: And I have a US Saturn.
What does the price of a game have to do with using an emulator?
install a region switch and a modchip to your Sega Saturn and you can play whatever game you want.
and you won't have any crappy emulation going on which would ruin the game experience.