Post by: Master-Chief on July 25, 2004, 09:52:00 PM
I, along with others think that these n00bs need to read the rules. This needs to happen prior to them even having access to an X-S Account. You should MAKE them read the rules BEFORE they sign up. I don't know how it works now, but I was fairly familiar with this site since I have been here for a while, but was never interested in making an account, but it was fairly easy to make an account and I didn't read any rules. The people signing up should be FORCED to read the rules, and some people just try to skip it, so like put a time limit (about at least 2 minutes to read ALL the rules), and then let them go on. If they try to cheat their way through give them a message box that says, "You didn't read the rules, you MUST read the rules before signing up." Something like this NEEDS to be done to prevent spammers and pirate kiddies. This is my suggestion and please feel free to add to it or let me know if this is something that will never happen!
--Master-Chief
Post by: Fuzzy on July 25, 2004, 11:11:00 PM
Post by: green_beetle on July 26, 2004, 03:37:00 AM
Personally I dont mind people asking for help on a easy question, the thing that really is bugging me at the moment is the flaming that members do when a "noob" question arises.
Instead of a rant just answer their question if its basic enough and the thread will be over.
In the past Ive flammed members over a really stupid questions, but ive found all it leads to is a multiple page thread on absolutly nothing. And if it is a really "stupid" question it will be binned by a mod anyway.
Ive always been told teaching is the best way to learn more yourself.
.......................And if not, i have always voted for a short test about those "noob" questions before you sign up or before your allowed to post in a certain forum topic.
This post has been edited by green_beetle on Jul 26 2004, 10:38 AM
Post by: chefelf on July 26, 2004, 04:27:00 AM
It's not going to change, whether you make people read the rules or not. The only thing we can do is try to clean up as much as we can and warn or ban users who do not follow the rules. I know that there are always people that don't follow the rules but as far as moderating these forums goes, I think we do a pretty good job.
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
, as long as there are mods to kick out piracy whores then it's no problem. The only rule violation I did was have two images in my sig. It was a couple of days before the mod's got to me I think, but they catch up with you. So yer, but them newbs that say softmodding in the hardware/case modding is a mod or what the best mod chip is them threads just really piss me of I try and ignore them as much as I can.
Post by: chefelf on July 26, 2004, 09:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (bucko @ Jul 26 2004, 09:39 AM) |
| but them newbs that say softmodding in the hardware/case modding is a mod or what the best mod chip is them threads just really piss me of I try and ignore them as much as I can. |
That's all you can do. If you let it really bother you then perhaps it's time to move on. It's not going to go away. Just go about your business, report offending posts and don't let anything get to you.
It's only a website. There are more important things in life.... or so I've heard.
Post by: bucko on July 26, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: darkslider802 on July 26, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on July 26, 2004, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: Fuzzy on July 26, 2004, 11:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Jul 26 2004, 01:39 PM) |
| ahem... rules like signature rules? |
Like the crime of the horrible shrinking of my comic! GAH!!! It looks like crap!
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on July 26, 2004, 01:52:00 PM
i need a new sig.... better warm up Photoshop
Post by: Master-Chief on July 26, 2004, 02:34:00 PM
Post by: quall on July 27, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
This post has been edited by quall on Jul 27 2004, 09:45 PM
Post by: shanafan on July 27, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (Master-Chief @ Jul 25 2004, 10:55 PM) |
| Hello, I, along with others think that these n00bs need to read the rules. This needs to happen prior to them even having access to an X-S Account. You should MAKE them read the rules BEFORE they sign up. I don't know how it works now, but I was fairly familiar with this site since I have been here for a while, but was never interested in making an account, but it was fairly easy to make an account and I didn't read any rules. The people signing up should be FORCED to read the rules, and some people just try to skip it, so like put a time limit (about at least 2 minutes to read ALL the rules), and then let them go on. If they try to cheat their way through give them a message box that says, "You didn't read the rules, you MUST read the rules before signing up." Something like this NEEDS to be done to prevent spammers and pirate kiddies. This is my suggestion and please feel free to add to it or let me know if this is something that will never happen! --Master-Chief |
Ha.. funny coming from a person who did similar things when they started here
Oh the irony
Post by: HSDEMONZ on July 27, 2004, 03:44:00 PM
That is why when caught it's a zero tolerance policy. We won't buther the site by placing rules everywhere anymore. They are clealry posted.
When people fuck up.. they'll be pointed to the door.
Post by: lordvader129 on July 27, 2004, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: darkslider802 on July 27, 2004, 05:37:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| what we need a giant boxing glove to fly out the monitor of anyone who breaks the rules |
better yet get mike tyson to punch them and bite a ear off
Post by: Master-Chief on July 27, 2004, 09:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ Jul 27 2004, 04:02 PM) |
| Ha.. funny coming from a person who did similar things when they started here Oh the irony |
Post by: kadafin on July 30, 2004, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: JayDee on July 30, 2004, 01:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (kadafin @ Jul 30 2004, 09:56 PM) |
| there should be a quiz on rules for the first time you try to post in each forum |
Nice touch
Post by: chefelf on August 03, 2004, 01:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Master-Chief @ Jul 26 2004, 05:37 PM) |
| I guess you guys are right, but I am very active in the Case Modding section and we get at least like 5 posts a day that are these n00bs posting about Mod-Chips and BIOSes and then those threads just goto Flame Wars and I am sitting there and wondering, "Where the HELL are the moderators?" I think that there needs to be ONE more moderator in that forum just to give that extra look out for those unnecessary threads. |
There are already six moderators for Newbie Chat, not including all Head Moderators and the three Admins. The problem isn't lack of moderators, it's that there can't be 24 hour coverage of any forum. If something is posted that violates the rules there is always going to be someone who is the first to find the post. Sometimes it will be a moderator. Sometimes it will be a regular member.
The best you can do if you find it as a member is just report it to a moderator. Don't bump it by flaming the person, just report it to a moderator quietly and let them assess the situation and deal with it accordingly.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on August 03, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (chefelf @ Aug 3 2004, 04:41 PM) |
| The best you can do if you find it as a member is just report it to a moderator. Don't bump it by flaming the person, just report it to a moderator quietly and let them assess the situation and deal with it accordingly. |
That is the best advice given in a long time.
The assholes of the world who show up on our doorstep to claim their 5 seconds of fame in the Gbin are a problem.. but sometimes it's the 10 morons after the asshole that just makes it worse. (and fall for the assholes TROLL BAIT)
Leave the thread alone, report to staff and let them handle it.
Post by: chefelf on August 03, 2004, 05:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Aug 3 2004, 07:27 PM) |
| That is the best advice given in a long time. |
Unfortunately it will never happen. Human nature will prevail.
Post by: MoeMan949222 on August 03, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (darkslider802 @ Jul 27 2004, 07:40 PM) |
| better yet get mike tyson to punch them and bite a ear off |
To bad Mike Tyson can't win a fight anymore.
Off topic: Anybody saw the fight?
Post by: darkslider802 on August 03, 2004, 08:13:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| To bad Mike Tyson can't win a fight anymore. Off topic: Anybody saw the fight? |
no ,but i see clips off of ESPN he got his ass knocked out in the 4th round hahah ,he didnt want to get up because he knew he would get knocked down again
Post by: green_beetle on August 04, 2004, 03:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ Aug 4 2004, 10:27 AM) |
| The assholes of the world who show up on our doorstep to claim their 5 seconds of fame in the Gbin are a problem.. but sometimes it's the 10 morons after the asshole that just makes it worse. (and fall for the assholes TROLL BAIT) Leave the thread alone, report to staff and let them handle it. |
addressed in my first post.
Post by: Master-Chief on August 12, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (darkslider802 @ Aug 3 2004, 10:16 PM) |
| no ,but i see clips off of ESPN he got his ass knocked out in the 4th round hahah ,he didnt want to get up because he knew he would get knocked down again |
Erm... ok....
Post by: feflicker on August 12, 2004, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: bucko on August 12, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
| QUOTE |
Can we at least require everyone to have a verified address, so we can track them down and give them an ass-whoopin' if they continue to break the rules? |
No cause that gona be hard to do and people would just put fake address in anyway.
Post by: xboxhaxorz on August 12, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
let them get an account, but before they post, they have to know the rules, which will be tested in a tiny quiz.
also perhaps have a 10 post probahtion period, were if for any reason within the 10 post limit, if they make the slightest itty bitty newb mistake, then BAN. and if they want another account they have to wait 7dys or something.
this is my take on it, i personally dont appreciate newb posts, i sometimes make some, as do others, but extremely newb posts are outrageous.
also those crappy case mod posts ie; duct tape box, all metal box, gets tiring
Post by: shavedrat on August 12, 2004, 04:31:00 PM
EDIT: xboxhaxorz mentioned something similar before I finished typing out my thoughts. im not leechin off his idea heh.
Post by: feflicker on August 12, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| No cause that gona be hard to do and people would just put fake address in anyway |
It was a joke
Besides, I did state "verified address", which means you would have to backup your login with a CC or other form of verification. Again, it was a joke though...
I like the "You can't post the first 5 days idea"
Post by: nimbles on August 12, 2004, 05:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (feflicker) |
| I like the "You can't post the first 5 days idea" |
thats what they do over at videohelp.com/dvdrhelp.com, it won't stop all idiotic posts but being forced to use the search first can filter alot of the crap.
Post by: chefelf on August 13, 2004, 05:07:00 AM
| QUOTE (afandiewinter @ Aug 12 2004, 10:45 PM) |
| ok, i will start doing this (reporting) instead of telling the poster off. but will i get flamed or banned myself for over-reporting? |
You won't get flamed for over-reporting since regular members don't have any idea if anyone is reporting. Reports simply go to the moderators of that particular forum.
You won't be banned if you report posts that are questionable or go against forum rules. I'm sure if you abused the report feature and reported 50 posts a day, or reported posts that didn't break rules you someone would most likely contact you and give you a gentle warning to stop.
I would say, though, that any post that violates forum rules is worthy of reporting.
I'm not trying to say that people should try to rat out other members, but the rules are there for a reason and it's up to a member's discretion whether they want to be involved in reporting or not. It certainly helps us out from a moderation standpoint. We can't catch every offending post.
Keeping Xbox-Scene clean, organized, non redundant -- and above all free of piracy talk -- is what's really important.