Post by: Twobee on December 31, 2003, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: ZASADAR on February 11, 2004, 05:39:00 PM
Post by: Heet on February 29, 2004, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: Prican24 on February 29, 2004, 08:03:00 PM
any help on this?
Post by: ScHlAuChi on December 03, 2003, 07:52:00 AM
Post by: Heet on December 03, 2003, 08:25:00 AM
Post by: lantus on December 03, 2003, 12:32:00 PM
as for Mods, ive only tested the official Quake Mission Pack 2 and Malice. I used to have Mission Pack 1 but i have lost my cd it seems.
Id be interested to hear which other Mods work/dont work for you etc.
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2003, 12:41:00 PM
I'll bust out Shrak and stuff soon and give all of it a go, I've got a pretty decent Quake collection so....
Post by: Bender_Unit_1 on December 03, 2003, 01:20:00 PM
-Bender
Post by: LepPpeR on December 03, 2003, 01:25:00 PM
Post by: UberJim on December 03, 2003, 01:35:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Dec 3 2003, 06:25 PM) |
| thats because your not exiting correctly. config.cfg gets saved when you quit quake. This is by design. |
What is the correct way to exit? I play Quake, change the settings the way I like. Press back, scroll down to quit, press start, and press Y. When I boot up the game again from the launcher menu my settings have returned to defaults.
Post by: lantus on December 03, 2003, 01:36:00 PM
so im not sure what the issue is there - is anyone else experiencing this?
Post by: UberJim on December 03, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
Edit: Could you have it create a config file only when one isn't found?
Post by: lantus on December 03, 2003, 02:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (UberJim @ Dec 3 2003, 10:42 PM) |
| Edit: Could you have it create a config file only when one isn't found? |
it should already do this, thats the puzzling part. So, anyone else experiencing this problem?
Post by: lantus on December 03, 2003, 02:31:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2003, 03:09:00 PM
http://www.planetqua...orld/index.html
Goto the "Hall of Fame" and just d/l everything
http://ethereal-hell.telefragged.com/
Quality stuffs
Please keep a report of what works and does not to help each other out.
Post by: Neil on December 03, 2003, 03:21:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 03, 2003, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: UberJim on December 03, 2003, 05:08:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Dec 3 2003, 09:33 PM) |
| damn , im almost certain that saving to config worked, and now im a bit worried...do saves work? the only difference i know of was that i was testing my code on E: instead of F: - i may have to mount f: before i can write to it, im not certain. |
I got a saved game to work. It wrote it to the ID1 folder.
Post by: wired57 on December 03, 2003, 06:21:00 PM
Post by: ZildjianKX on December 03, 2003, 07:40:00 PM
Post by: wired57 on December 03, 2003, 10:37:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2003, 02:27:00 AM
Simply delete the contents of the ID1 directory that you get with this distro, then replace those contents with the contents of the ID1 directory on your retail Quake CD. That's that.
Lantus: Ok here is the deal it writes a CFG file, but does not keep the settings I choose in the menu.
Here is another thing that is odd. I set the invert look to on with notepad, and that worked, but now I am trying to assign "toggleconsole" to Y, and "map level_1" to B but when I save the new CFG file to the XBOX and start Quake, it sets the controls back to default.
Post by: crobar on December 04, 2003, 06:17:00 AM
i just downloaded this to check it out and i played around with quake but i can load other quake games on this too?
dont flame im new to this release.
great job by the way!
lantus, your stuff is always so on point how do you do it!?
Post by: UberJim on December 04, 2003, 10:17:00 AM
Post by: UberJim on December 04, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
Post by: yozuri82 on December 04, 2003, 01:12:00 PM
thanks.
Post by: yodanut on December 04, 2003, 01:23:00 PM
At the risk of repeating something you may be tired of hearing (and sorry if I am), have you ever considered porting one of the more modern engine updates such as Doomsday or Tenebrae? I'd love to see any of those two make their way to the Xbox but so far interest doesn't seem to be very high for either.
Post by: UberJim on December 04, 2003, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2003, 05:55:00 PM
Ok, I got some more stuff that should work with Quake, and I think I found a work around for MODs such as Area 51 that require you to enter the console and load up a certain map from in game. As soon as my girl friend desides to get of the XBOX (if ever), I'll run a few experiments, and report my findings here.
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2003, 07:02:00 PM
When I get the SDK I may have a look, don't expect much though, I don't know how to code...
...much.
Ok, so you want to play Area 51, Rapture, Insomnia, and all the other goodies!??!
Well here is what you do, goto:
http://quakestuff.telefragged.com/
Download PakExplorer, and the required DLL files.
Download Area 51 for this example:
http://public.planet...-c/area51.2.zip
Extract it to its own directory called Area51 or what ever.
Now open the docs for area 51, usually they would tell you to dump all the BSP files into a MAPS directory inside the ID1 directory, then to start up Quake and type in the console "map level_2" or some shit like that.
Instead what you will do is start up PakExplorer, create a new file inside your Area51 directory, and call it pak0.pak (yes that is a ZERO).
Make a new folder in the root of the Pak file called MAPS, drag all the BSP files into that directory, and then rename level_1.bsp to START.BSP (I keep everything lower case), then simlpy close PakExplorer and it will save the enw Pak file.
When ever you have a MOD that requires you to type Map such and such in the console, this is basically what you will need to do, if you see extra files such as Progs.dat and what not, throw them into the root of the pak file, and keep everthing organized as it is in the directory.
so far I have the following mods working:
Alkado (seems fine without the +play creepy
command).
APSP1: The Final Threat
Flesh
Rapture
Area 51
Shut Up! RPG
Insomnia? (I had to toss progs.dat into the pak file, but it does not seem to want to warp to a level when you select skill level, also auto.cfg screws it up, cause of the GL calls I guess).
Dissolution Of Eternity (commercial Mission pak)
Post by: XDelusion on December 04, 2003, 09:32:00 PM
After The Fall: Works Flawless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shrak (commercial MOD)
Quake Rally (not sure why, but this one WILL NOT work at all, I even edited the PAK file to correct what was missing, and still no go).
The Demon King
CHECK THIS PAGE!!!
http://www.quaketerminus.com/addon.htm
Another note, you may want to make the directory names small, I.E. ATF or Shrek otherwise Quake will not see the mods.
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2003, 02:11:00 AM
EDIT: Ok wait, the player is supposed to be able to look about and shoot, but here is what we have on the XBOX by default:
Right Trigger, Fire Left Trigger Jump.
Right Analog Move Player Left and Right
Left Analog Lets player look up and down.
D-Pad selects weapons.
I do not fully understand how you have the analogs mapped in the config file, but what I'd like to pull off (if quake does not overwrite the damn config file that is) is this:
D-Pad to move L and R, as well as look up and down.
A button to Jump
X button to Fire
Triggers to Change weapons.
Would this be possible?
If not, which I assume is the case as it appears that the analog is emulating a Mouse, then perhaps there is at least a way to move the Move Left And Right features over to the Left analog as well?
If so it would be interesting to begin a series of Contra clones based on the Quake engine, it works out amazingly well!
One other thing that would REALLY help out this port would be enlarged FONTS, I looked in the PAK files, but there are no fonts in there, so this must all be controlled from the Engine itself.
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2003, 03:39:00 AM
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2003, 09:36:00 AM
XMen QUake works fine.
Blood Mage locks up when you try to start game (GL Issue?)
Hack & SLash seems to work fine.
Oh ya on Target Quake, now sometimes when I start the game I can't move left unless I hold up on the left analog! What gives!??!?!
Post by: Gmc on December 05, 2003, 01:34:00 PM
| QUOTE (XDelusion @ Dec 5 2003, 07:36 PM) |
| Hmm you like Quake, but not MODs? Strange... |
Why is it strange?
This game was my first FPS, I'm gonna love it forever, lol.
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2003, 02:19:00 PM
http://www.ritual.com/scourge/
http://www.activisio...e/eternity.html
Post by: XDelusion on December 05, 2003, 09:23:00 PM
Slide seems fine, but I wonder if there is a way to spped your guy up when you slow down?
OUM is fine
Starship 1 and 2 are fine
KickFlip is fucked up.
Post by: Dahak on December 06, 2003, 06:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (XDelusion @ Dec 5 2003, 05:02 AM) |
| Ok, so you want to play Area 51, Rapture, Insomnia, and all the other goodies!??! Well here is what you do, goto: http://quakestuff.telefragged.com/ Download PakExplorer, and the required DLL files. Download Area 51 for this example: http://public.planet...-c/area51.2.zip Extract it to its own directory called Area51 or what ever. Now open the docs for area 51, usually they would tell you to dump all the BSP files into a MAPS directory inside the ID1 directory, then to start up Quake and type in the console "map level_2" or some shit like that. Instead what you will do is start up PakExplorer, create a new file inside your Area51 directory, and call it pak0.pak (yes that is a ZERO). Make a new folder in the root of the Pak file called MAPS, drag all the BSP files into that directory, and then rename level_1.bsp to START.BSP (I keep everything lower case), then simlpy close PakExplorer and it will save the enw Pak file. When ever you have a MOD that requires you to type Map such and such in the console, this is basically what you will need to do, if you see extra files such as Progs.dat and what not, throw them into the root of the pak file, and keep everthing organized as it is in the directory. |
Okay, I am feeling like a real idiot here, because your instructions seem crystal clear to me, and I'm following them to the letter, but I still can't even get Area51 to run. Every time I try to run the mod it just hangs the xbox indefinitely. I've turned of IGR in EvoX to make sure that wasn't the problem, but it still hangs.
The only mod I have been able to get work to some degree is the X-Men RoA (demo and full version), but they only work as far as the transporter in the War Room that would begin the game proper. Once I step on the lightning dish and the loading sign appears it hangs.
Any ideas?
Post by: XDelusion on December 06, 2003, 09:57:00 AM
As for Area 51.
Make sure all your Area511 pak files are directly inside the AREA51 directory, and not within a subdirectory. Also make sure that the 1st Map in the series is renamed to start.bsp.
Beyond that if it does not work, I am not sure what is going on, but I can tell you how my XBOX is set up, if that makes any difference as to what runs and what does not.
I am running the UnleashedX Menu system (was on Evox)
I have the IGR enabled on the BIOS, and everything runs fine (never tried Evox's IGR)
OH yes, and as for the BIOS I am running, I am using the LATEST X2 BIOS, which if you are not, I'd highly suggest you update, perhaps that will clear up a lot of probelems for you.
Post by: Dahak on December 06, 2003, 12:35:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 06, 2003, 12:43:00 PM
The latest X2 BIOS is the way to go, I have MUCH less problems than I used to.
Post by: KaioShin on December 07, 2003, 06:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (XDelusion @ Dec 5 2003, 01:39 PM) |
| The old DC Quake that you speak of was ported as a Demo in 9 days, did not support MODs, ran sloppy, had to be hacked so you could save most levels and over all sucked aside of the fact that it had OpenGL support. This port blows anything it could have done away, the DC version was not too MOD friendly AT ALL. |
This port is a ton better than Titanium Studio's QuakeDC port... Besides the fact its on Xbox and obviously has more ram to work with than dreamcast.
But to correct XDelusion a bit...
QuakeDC did support mods just not in a friendly "mod menu" way. You had to do one mod per disc.
It ran somewhat well with standard quake and simple mods. But if the model's poly count went up the framerate went down... quickly... because Titanium forgot/broke a thing called "Backface Culling" during their port. And basicly what Backface Culling does is make it so the polygons of a model that are not visible to the player are not drawn. QuakeDC drew them anyway... (so I guess it was sloppy)
On almost all levels you could save. You just often needed a completely empty VMU. The "hack" was a mod that took you to a tiny level between levels where you could save a super small 8 block or less save.
It did not have OpenGL support. Though it did have hardware rendering. It used Direct3D for its hardware rendering library... which goes along with the whole WinCE 'os' it is running on. (damn extra layer of abstraction taking up ram)
The single biggest problem I know of for QuakeDC is the fact the source is officially closed.
The newest version of RADQuake (another Dreamcast engine. This time based on SDLQuake like QuakeX here) surpasses everything QuakeDC ever did except one single thing... Hardware rendering. And it is VERY mod friendly. And the best thing of all... Its completely open source. (As it should be)
Post by: XDelusion on December 07, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 07, 2003, 09:12:00 PM
Have you had any success with the MODs that have an autoconfig file yet?
Post by: XDelusion on December 07, 2003, 10:11:00 PM
So there are defininite plans for a GL Wrapper? AWSOME, this in itself will open up a whole new world of options for Quake and....
...other games.
Post by: ScHlAuChi on December 08, 2003, 08:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (ScHlAuChi @ Dec 7 2003, 07:47 AM) |
| Having a little problem here with QuakeX Is it normal that i have to press a key all the time to have mouse look enabled ? Is there any way to make it enabled constantly ? |
Is there a solution for that ?
Post by: ScHlAuChi on December 08, 2003, 01:40:00 PM
didnt knew - i was in the impression that it was like this in the original quake already
and that theres a console command for to fix that, like: cg_mouselookconstant 1 or whatever.
Thx for the info lantus
Post by: KaioShin on December 08, 2003, 07:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Dec 8 2003, 07:17 AM) |
| finally im definetly going to be working on a hardware accelerated version, most likely by providing a D3D wrapper around OpenGL in SDL. good news all round for Quake fans eh?  |
This is good news.
After speaking with LordHavoc about how you said you was thinking about doing it he had this to say...
<LordHavoc> he should look at the D3DQuake port
<LordHavoc> it's a big D3D wrapper for glquake
I keep forgetting about D3DQuake...
Not sure if you'd heard about D3DQuake already or not... Either way I'm sure it'd be worth a look.
And... I'm happy to see the network enabled version can connect to PC servers online. Maybe now I'll actually feel like going back to visit my old Quake online playing friends.
(if only the "usual place" I know about would get the new version)
Post by: lantus on December 08, 2003, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: KaioShin on December 15, 2003, 11:38:00 AM
They have now added a nice controller driven onscreen keyboard to the port. It can be used for the console, entering the players name in the player options menu, etc...
The new menu code was developed using Winquake as the testbed. Then was added into RADQuake... where it works just fine. I've not looked at the code yet but something like this should be simple enough to add into the xbox port(s).
I know QuakeX supports a USB keyboard but considering the fact most people dont have one rigged for use with Xbox I think it'd be very useful to a lot of people to have this built right into the engine. (up till this point QC onscreen keyboards have been used in a select few Dreamcast aimed mods)
Reaper's site is: http://imrtechnology.ngemu.com/
You can get RADQuake and the source from there.
Post by: Mo|)|)er on December 20, 2003, 10:58:00 PM
Post by: XDelusion on December 22, 2003, 04:54:00 PM
Post by: bellapl1 on December 23, 2003, 05:05:00 PM
Cheers
Post by: bellapl1 on December 26, 2003, 01:48:00 AM
Post by: nagmine on December 26, 2003, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: Twobee on December 26, 2003, 05:18:00 PM
-Twobee