Post by: nazis X. on April 20, 2003, 01:08:00 PM
You must be, what, 12, 13 years old? Because apparently, you haven't played any of those 'old, shtty' games; alot of them are better than the crap they spew on the systems nowadays.
If you're going to post a question, post one that doesn't start with a flame.
Post by: razorrifh on April 20, 2003, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: msuy2k on April 20, 2003, 04:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 20 2003, 10:44 PM) | ||
first off don't worry about my age, if I am smart enough to make a post then I deserve to be heard, otherwise there is no reason to have a board up. If you get PC-based PSX emulators then it should be a breeze to do it on the xbox, seeing as it has just as much power as a computer. ANyway, if I knew how to program I could make it work just fine. I'm just stating my opinion, you see - I didn't flame anyone, I just merely stated my opinion about the latest aray of emulators that have been released. A flame is what you just shot at me being only 12 or 13 years old when infact I'm no where near those ages, now this is a flame at you, you lost fool. |
Wow u used array thats a fancy word
. Ur right ur no where near 12 or 13 isnt it more like 7. Dude u have no clue how emulation works and how this differs from emu's on the PC. And im stiill a teenager but man old games kick ass. Gotta love old classics . Also how did Nazis X loose you little bitch. U still have no clue what u r talkin about
Post by: Epox on April 20, 2003, 07:26:00 PM
Post by: razorrifh on April 20, 2003, 08:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 20 2003, 10:26 PM) |
| well then explain why the psx can be emulated on the PC and not the xbox, since I don't know what I'm talking about how about you inform me... |
it can be, its just there are no accelerated open source d3d rendering graphics plugins available. the pcsxbox emu is running, but its 100% software rendering, thus slow.
Post by: kubafett on April 20, 2003, 08:00:00 PM
Post by: razorrifh on April 20, 2003, 08:08:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on April 20, 2003, 08:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 20 2003, 04:04 PM) |
| i'm gettin tired of seeing nothing but emulators being released everytime I look @ the XS homepage. This emulator, that emulator, they all basically do the same thing, bring back old sucky games. If your going to do a emulator why not a consol emulator of the latest generation (Sega Saturn, Dreamcast, PSX, PS2, GC) something people would be intrested in... |
Know what I am tired of? I am tired of punks like you who put down people's hardwork with the Xbox. First, it was NexGen, now emulators? Even though I am not a Amiga gamer, I am glad people are busting their ass to do wonders with the Xbox.
Post by: feflicker on April 20, 2003, 08:46:00 PM
Post by: Jsmith on April 20, 2003, 08:56:00 PM
The age reference that someone made does have some legitimacy. It's not a shot at your intelligence, but rather is just pointing out how you easy it is for you to relate to those games. If you had grown up playing 2D games with very simple graphics, it would be perhaps easier to enjoy them today. Just like, in 10 years, you may be able to pick up Halo and have a good time, while some other kid whose first system was an Xbox 4 wouldn't appreciatte it or understand the nostalgia.
Post by: LumbraX on April 20, 2003, 09:00:00 PM
Post by: Epox on April 20, 2003, 11:34:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 20, 2003, 11:42:00 PM
And how can one lose when responding to a post? This isn't a contest or a war.
Post by: irajames1176 on April 20, 2003, 11:46:00 PM
Post by: CyborgGamer on April 21, 2003, 12:48:00 AM
......and for all you people who are developing emulators/applications for the Xbox, your are doing a brilliant job, don't let the ignorant people spoil it for the rest.Post by: senator on April 21, 2003, 12:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (CyborgGamer @ Apr 21 2003, 08:48 AM) |
| If you want to play Playstation games, buy the console! If you want to play Playstation 2 games, buy the console! If you want to play Gamcube games, buy the console! If you want to play Sega Saturn games, buy the console! If you want to play Dreamcast games, buy the console! (You can find all of the above on eBay) That is the only reasonable solution ......and for all you people who are developing emulators/applications for the Xbox, your are doing a brilliant job, don't let the ignorant people spoil it for the rest. |
Right On man.....Ghee how much is a psx console chipped worth now about $50 aus. $25 US..Same with those other consoles. Yeh it would be nice to have everything in one neat box, but when it's possible, it will come.....Emulators rock they are able to bring back some good times which otherwise maybe lost....
Post by: Epox on April 21, 2003, 09:12:00 AM
Second off, the news on the XS front page is the only good source of news not only that but anyone who replied to this thread to flame just plain suckxs hard ass simply because there is no reason to flame someone who didn't flame you. Damn jackoffs. Fuck All of yall and Fuck the replies you gave, well most of you anyway.
Post by: kaioshade on April 21, 2003, 09:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 21 2003, 11:12 AM) |
| First off, not even half of you fools are programmers, so don't tell me how fucking hard it is. Second off, the news on the XS front page is the only good source of news not only that but anyone who replied to this thread to flame just plain suckxs hard ass simply because there is no reason to flame someone who didn't flame you. Damn jackoffs. Fuck All of yall and Fuck the replies you gave, well most of you anyway. |
well coming from someone who is only a beginner with programming. a while ago i had attempted to port oswan to dreamcast. i never could have imagined how many roadblocks i would come across (video rendering, input, sound, ). i think the only thing that i managed to get up was a basic rom loader screen. eventually i realized i still had a long ways to go.
so yes porting an emu is much more difficult than just pasting some lines of code into the xdk. it takes time and patience. and we are talking a wonderswan here, i could only imagine the hell a saturn or n64 would be.
Post by: shanafan on April 21, 2003, 11:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 21 2003, 12:12 PM) |
| First off, not even half of you fools are programmers, so don't tell me how fucking hard it is. Second off, the news on the XS front page is the only good source of news not only that but anyone who replied to this thread to flame just plain suckxs hard ass simply because there is no reason to flame someone who didn't flame you. Damn jackoffs. Fuck All of yall and Fuck the replies you gave, well most of you anyway. |
| QUOTE |
| First off, your the punk as far as I'm concerned. Lashing out at people for no reason is kinda stupid. I didn't call you stupid, so why are you calling me anything at all? Second, I didn't put down anyone's "hard work", I just said that I'm tired of reading about emulators all the time, as fast as they release these damn emulators you wouldn't know the work is anywhere near "hard", albet its harder than you dick though. |
Calling you a punk is lashing out? LOL, you sure are one funny dude. If you are tried of seeing the emulator releases, then just don't look at the main page. I personally only use SimpleX and Recordnow Max for Xbox ISO creation and burning, and these new releases of ISO programs are pointless to me. Am I going to complain about them? Hell no, because there is no point in me doing so, and the programs can be very helpful for some people. So just do us a favor and leave your opinions to yourself.
Post by: IceWolfX on April 21, 2003, 06:25:00 PM
If you do not like seeing that a certain emulator or whatever is released every couple of days, good for you. Only thing I can say is that you are going to find people that are going to want tell you the opposite. Only real choices to do are:
(1) Keeping voicing your opinion
(2) Program a game or application for the xBox everyday so you see your work and not emulators
(3) Do nothing or something similar
Post by: Mage on April 21, 2003, 08:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 21 2003, 09:12 AM) |
| First off, not even half of you fools are programmers, so don't tell me how fucking hard it is. Second off, the news on the XS front page is the only good source of news not only that but anyone who replied to this thread to flame just plain suckxs hard ass simply because there is no reason to flame someone who didn't flame you. Damn jackoffs. Fuck All of yall and Fuck the replies you gave, well most of you anyway. |
Yes, well I am a programmer, so my points still stand.
Programming is much like anything else, there are easy tasks and hard tasks.
Most programmers would think writing an adaptive NLP module as hard, yet you wouldn't understand what it takes, so you can think it is easy.
If it is so easy, step up to bat boy. Lets see you start programming something useful.
When you fail, or don't meet your expectations, you've finally started to learn about the field.
Post by: krawhitham on April 21, 2003, 09:00:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| First off, your the punk as far as I'm concerned. Lashing out at people for no reason is kinda stupid. |
if that not the pot calling the kettle back, You start this thread by by lashing out at all the hard working folks that are releasing this emulators. And yes age in a point of interest you must be too young to remember the great games.
You see a long time ago games had to be good and fun, now all a games maker needs to do is use a few gig of space and make the game look preaty and it sells
Beleive it or not you are in the minority, most of us if we want to play a ps2 game, a DC game, a GC game play it on the system it was made for.
But for older games we would rather leave then in the attic instead of 12 systems and hundreds of wire all over the place, you can use the Xbox with it all in one place.
most people that want the next generation systems emulated (PS2, DC, GC, PSONE) are nothing more that just warez kiddies, not some one how likes classic games and the evolution of video games
Post by: nazis X. on April 22, 2003, 08:20:00 AM
Post by: X-tA-c on April 22, 2003, 09:05:00 AM
Post by: X-tA-c on April 22, 2003, 09:05:00 AM
Post by: EvilWays on April 22, 2003, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 22, 2003, 10:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (X-tA-c @ Apr 22 2003, 05:05 PM) |
| Wrong the xbox can run psx/dreamcast/sega saturn first you have to install linux/007 on your xbox, then install bleem pc demo then download the full crack for that then you can play playstation games now.For the dreamcast games do the same thing but go to dcemulation.com and downloac dreamemu and install.For saturn go to dcemulation and download the emulator from there. And for those who say they it doesn't work your wrong because i can run those on my pentiumeII 316RAM. And a xbox is way more powerful so it can run it. |
Riiight. No Linux version of Bleem! got released, and even if it did, it'd run like shit on XBox Linux, as there's no 3D hardware acelleration. Dreamemu only plays DEMOS... not game demos you get from a magizine, but homebrew demos... shit like "oooohhh.... spinning cube!". NOT commercial games. The only working Saturn emulator is Guri-Guri, which works under Windows, NOT Linux. Even if it was on Linux, the same would apply for Guri-Guri as the non-existant Linux version of Bleem!
Read up before you post bullshit. It's not becoming of you.
Post by: EvilWays on April 22, 2003, 10:15:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 22, 2003, 10:19:00 PM
| QUOTE (EvilWays @ Apr 23 2003, 06:15 AM) |
| X-tA-c is full of crap anyways...have you read any of his posts? Just awful... |
Yeah, just read the other ones. What kind of crack is he smoking to come up with such ludacrous findings?
Post by: kaioshade on April 23, 2003, 08:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 23 2003, 10:18 AM) |
| you slow fucks, youi can install windows on your xbox using that x86 emulator. If not that then use wine from within linux, and ibet there are allot of other windows emulators for linux to choose from. If not that then write an emulator from scratch, you don't have to nessesarly port it, just figure out how it works then write one for the xbox based on that information. |
you reallt think it is that easy? then write one yourself. its easy enough right?
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 10:57:00 AM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 23 2003, 04:18 PM) |
| you slow fucks, youi can install windows on your xbox using that x86 emulator. If not that then use wine from within linux, and ibet there are allot of other windows emulators for linux to choose from. If not that then write an emulator from scratch, you don't have to nessesarly port it, just figure out how it works then write one for the xbox based on that information. |
Alright, to clairify, the x86 VMs are not emulators. They're virtual machines. Another point to mention is neither works fully (neither bochs nor plex86 support 3D hardware acceleration, which means its all processed through software.... sloooow). Wine is also not fully working at this point... try running GTA3 from it. It won't. Hell, all of the above barely run KaZaa or M$ Works at an appreciable speed, what makes you think it can do a resource-heavy game requiring a 3D card?
We're not slow, we just actually know the real-world performance of said apps. You're just running on rumors, myth, and theory.
Post by: jz28 on April 23, 2003, 11:07:00 AM
between epox and x ta c we are really feeding the trolls today...
These guys couldnt put their heads together to generate anything of use for anyone on this board...
I think we should just ban them...
lame...
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 07:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (Epox @ Apr 24 2003, 03:33 AM) |
| I never said its easy, I said its simple, it can be simple while still being hard, harder than any of your dicks should be concerned so just shut up and find something to do, I should have put my new disclaimer up so that local know-it-all fuck faces wouldn't have replied. You know who you are, and I'm not one of them so don't even go there. Close this thread up, it started out as me voicing my opinon on all those damn emulators, and now everyone is here tring to prove my opinon wrong. You can't proove someone's opinon wrong, simply because it's theirs - not your's to fool around with.  |
What was being proven wrong were some of the "facts" that you were telling all of us "slow fucks". I don't care if you like emulators or not; the fact that you took my age comment as an insult to your intellegence is your fault. It's also your fault that you perceived our opinions as flames.
It may have started with you voicing your opinion, but it ended with you trying to flame the rest of us because we didn't chime in with the same opinion as yours.
Post by: Clay_Trainor on April 23, 2003, 07:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (razorrifh @ Apr 21 2003, 04:08 AM) |
| and the ps2 only has 32... of course it also doesnt have to emulate, because of the iop, but still... its possible. one day. did that x64 ever get released today? (not trying to start a flame war, just curious) |
the ps2 has 128mb man
Post by: Tobias Redfield on April 23, 2003, 08:13:00 PM
"Yo tell the world to hold their breath they're breathing the wrong air ,This planet belongs to me and some hippy with long hair , Two white boys who spike punch and light joints , Hang around drugs loud music and like noise ."
Post by: EvilWays on April 23, 2003, 08:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (Clay_Trainor @ Apr 24 2003, 03:56 AM) |
| the ps2 has 128mb man |
Hate to burst your bubble, but it only has 32MB of RAM
Post by: elduderino1234 on April 23, 2003, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: nazis X. on April 23, 2003, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: elduderino1234 on April 24, 2003, 09:08:00 AM
Post by: GoDKiLLaX on April 26, 2003, 11:37:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| you slow fucks, youi can install windows on your xbox using that x86 emulator. If not that then use wine from within linux, and ibet there are allot of other windows emulators for linux to choose from. If not that then write an emulator from scratch, you don't have to nessesarly port it, just figure out how it works then write one for the xbox based on that information. |
Dude do you know how slow that would be if it was even possible. If your running linux and then emulate windows to then emulate a PSX or better console that would be retarded. First off when you emulate something u need about twice the power it takes to run on it's original hardware (for it to run and be usefull). so after you cut the Xbox processor in half while you emulate windows then you want to emulate a PSX at the same time? Dude get over it, it's not gonna work that way, i'm not saying there will never be a PSX emu, i'm just saying it'll have to run from the XBOX not from linux emulating windows, emulating PSX.
I grew up with all the old 8bit consoles so i enjoy playing the games i remember from my youth and playing games that i never got a chance to play because i never new they were around. Just cause you don't want to read the news about new emulators doesn't mean everyone else is also tired of reading about them.
I don't use Trainers for anygames but i don't cry about it when i see a new one posted. I also don't say "Hey way are they busy making trainers when they could be building a bomb to kill all the none belivers" In no way is this a flame just a debating you point with my counter point.
If you got a wheel mouse just keep on scrolling to the next news story, and if you can write a script that removes all the emulation news when you load XS site.
Hey someone make a Apple eII emulator.
Post by: X-tA-c on April 28, 2003, 07:34:00 AM
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Post by: Xeero on April 28, 2003, 09:27:00 AM
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