Post by: zinkoxyde on April 07, 2004, 09:53:00 PM
Anyways, I was kinda thinking about BIOS hacking lately, after the whole blue flubber thing. It wasn't the blue flubber that sparked my imagination, it was the complex video that was posted. I read somewhere that the xbox has no drivers loaded at that point in the boot process, so all data is poked directly to hardware. It kinda stood to reason that the best format would be RAW for the textures and the sound. In the complex video, the stage rotates and the logo stays in line with the camera, so I am guessing that the flubber is only a 2d texture on a plain. I also asume that we are just changing the lighting filters in D3d when tweaking the bios to get blue flubbers. This said, I think it would be more then reasonable to suppose that the audio and texture are in raw format along side with the MS logo in XBE files. I loaded up an unpacked bios in cool edit, and played it through as an 8bit unsigned, 8 khz, mono RAW file. Most of it is the garbage that you would expect to hear, but about halfway through there is a steady tone, then what sounds like the opening sequence audio. I may very well be wrong. I've just been looking at the raw hex, looking for patterns. Crazy? Yes! It be neat to have a custom logo and music play when starting the box. 
Post by: Xbox-Savage on April 07, 2004, 10:03:00 PM
got any more info?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 08, 2004, 12:07:00 AM
Image
and this is what it sounds like (obviously too fast)
Audio
Looks to be between 714D8h and 72F05h
IMHO, that looks too perfect not to be audio. Its exactly 0db peak-to-peak. The rest is random garbage.
Any bites at helping me with this?
I might just try to change some hex values where I think the audio is, and see if I can corrupt the sound. Then I'll know I am on the right track.
UPDATE: Damn, I'm useless! I tried to repack the bios and toss it on my xbox. Nothing seems to be different? Perhapse I am not doing something right, but I would have at least expected that I would have a corrupt BIOS.
Post by: 82ross on April 08, 2004, 07:08:00 AM
If you mess about with the radius of the flubber, make it larger you will see that the oscillations can move beyond the camera position and back again while its "flubbering". If it was 2d it couldnt behave in this way.
I think the way light behaves with it aswell takes it beyond 2d.
About packing the bios alls you need todo is click pack in XBtool and select the xboxkrnl.img that you altered and saved. Then input a new name. Flash it and run it
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 08, 2004, 07:17:00 AM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Apr 8 2004, 04:08 PM) |
| Im pretty sure the flubber/complex isnt 2D. Its just a seperate entity from the rest of the scene so seems to be unaffected by camera changes. |
Yeah, that was a pretty stupid thought now that I reflect on it.
I was running through the unassembled code, I guess if it were easy, it would be in XBtool already
The bios must be repacking okay, because, like I said, it runs. I must be going about this wrong.
Post by: 82ross on April 08, 2004, 07:58:00 AM
What your doing though is a very good idea. I hope you stick with it and come up with something.
Do you think the audio is one long piece or a group of smaller samples which are played in a particualar order with repeated parts and overlaps? (Im not to good with propper audio editing terms so bear with me lol)
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 08, 2004, 08:15:00 AM
Post by: 82ross on April 08, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
http://www.evertonfc....com/SP0000.WAV
This should sound familiar to most people. But expanding the clip a second or two before and after this you get less clear stuff/crap.
http://www.evertonfc....com/SP0001.WAV
I think the first clip is played multiple times in the flubber audio. Anyone got a recording of the complete thing?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 08, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
Here is the semi finished product in MP3 format:
Cow Moo Bios Start
I just replaced the rushing sound as heard above with the cow clip in the AIM95 directory. Sounds like the Xbox is doing realtime deforms of the clip. Still trying to figure out how to change the rest and maybe change the order of clips.
Post by: DJLotus on April 08, 2004, 07:42:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 09, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: Pillzburydoofus on April 09, 2004, 10:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 9 2004, 06:37 PM) |
| I am going to try to deASM the kernal. I am pretty sure that if I put a JMP right at the beginning of the clip and a RTN at the end that I can redirect the player to a clip to another memory location. This will probibly mean a 512k BIOS though as the original BIOS uses a series of clips overlapping to keep the size down. Not sure I want to monkey with that. I am pretty surprised that more people aren't interested in doing this stuff. After seeing how easy it was to mod the sound, I am going to go after the flubber itself next. Its probibly easy to hack, just no ones bothered to do it for themselves yet. |
Correction. Complex successfully modified the flubber to spell out the word "Complex" but work on that was discontinued and no information was released.
Post by: Pillzburydoofus on April 09, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 9 2004, 06:37 PM) |
| I am going to try to deASM the kernal. I am pretty sure that if I put a JMP right at the beginning of the clip and a RTN at the end that I can redirect the player to a clip to another memory location. This will probibly mean a 512k BIOS though as the original BIOS uses a series of clips overlapping to keep the size down. Not sure I want to monkey with that. I am pretty surprised that more people aren't interested in doing this stuff. After seeing how easy it was to mod the sound, I am going to go after the flubber itself next. Its probibly easy to hack, just no ones bothered to do it for themselves yet. |
Correction: Complex sucessfully modded the bios flubber to spell out the word "Complex" but quickly discontinued this project and never released any information on it. I don't remember the links, but somewhere in this forum if you search, you can find links to startup pictures with the Complex Flubber mod.
Post by: BloodyMary on April 09, 2004, 11:07:00 AM
| QUOTE (Pillzburydoofus @ Apr 9 2004, 02:41 PM) |
| Correction: Complex sucessfully modded the bios flubber to spell out the word "Complex" but quickly discontinued this project and never released any information on it. I don't remember the links, but somewhere in this forum if you search, you can find links to startup pictures with the Complex Flubber mod. |
You know.. groups not sharing information with others that are working on devoloping things for the xbox-scene is really silly...
zinkoxyde - Great work on the sound mod
82ross - please keep us updated in these forums... if things progress enough I might be interested in jumping in the way back machine and grabing some of my long lost assembly language programming skills and bringing to try some modding of my own...
Post by: 82ross on April 09, 2004, 03:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 9 2004, 03:31 AM) |
| Heya folks! Good news, As 82ross and I thought, the sounds are layered. I sucessfuly edited the sound that is played in the opening without even the use of a hex editor. I'll post sounds and methods when I get things figured out. In the mean time, keep working on it. I might miss something Here is the semi finished product in MP3 format: Cow Moo Bios Start I just replaced the rushing sound as heard above with the cow clip in the AIM95 directory. Sounds like the Xbox is doing realtime deforms of the clip. Still trying to figure out how to change the rest and maybe change the order of clips. |
Thats fkin funny mate
Im going to compare a few different bios in a minute see if the audio is in the same position in each. Maybe note down some offsets.
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 09, 2004, 03:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Pillzburydoofus @ Apr 9 2004, 07:41 PM) |
| Correction: Complex sucessfully modded the bios flubber to spell out the word "Complex" but quickly discontinued this project and never released any information on it. I don't remember the links, but somewhere in this forum if you search, you can find links to startup pictures with the Complex Flubber mod. |
I know Complex was working on it. But they stopped, and what good are pictures (I have the video actualy). Now I am working on it, unless they see fit to give out their notes. It is pretty shitty to keep all the information to themselfs and not release it, especialy if they don't plan on ever doing anything with it again. I don't mind, I am happy enough to go ahead and learn to do it myself if no one wants to help.
I don't care all that much about recognition of my work in the scene, I am doing this for myself. If someone wants to use it, cool, I don't concider my work to be different from anyone elses here. I gave out a few offsets, do with them what you will. Like I said, I am going to keep working, but if someone beats me to the punch, so much the better, means I don't need to keep working on it Feel free to jump in Team Complex if you wanna help us out.
Post by: Pillzburydoofus on April 09, 2004, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on April 11, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 9 2004, 03:31 AM) |
| Heya folks! Good news, As 82ross and I thought, the sounds are layered. I sucessfuly edited the sound that is played in the opening without even the use of a hex editor. I'll post sounds and methods when I get things figured out. In the mean time, keep working on it. I might miss something Here is the semi finished product in MP3 format: Cow Moo Bios Start I just replaced the rushing sound as heard above with the cow clip in the AIM95 directory. Sounds like the Xbox is doing realtime deforms of the clip. Still trying to figure out how to change the rest and maybe change the order of clips. |
are you going to possibly come up with a tutorial for this? i kinda understand how you did it, but not entirely. or maybe you could at least send me a little quick yet straightforward mini tut until you get all the bugs worked out? cuz i really like this idea. and i wanna be able to do, but dont know how
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 11, 2004, 07:52:00 PM
It's the FP representation of Pi reversed (Pi is actualy 40 49 0F DB). I have found the following neat offsets:
69C20
6A45C <-- Initial camara position? (Click for video)
6A478
6A4E0
6A4E4
6A4E8
6A4EC
6AB84
6AD44
6AD64
6AD78
6AF6C
6AF8C
6B0B4
They are all the occurances of Pi in the middle of the Kernel. I changed them to 1.0 (3F800000) and reversed it (0000803F) and got some interesting side effects when I booted (video to follow as soon as I get some more figured out. At this point, you guys might as well just wait for me to finish the Flubber hack, because I have made more interesting progress there then the Audio hack. I'll produce a Tut when I figure things out, and we can laugh because we've been waiting for at least 8 months for Complex. I realise there are more important things they are working on, but someone released a method of changing the color of the flubber, the graphic seems slightly more interesting don't you?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 14, 2004, 05:23:00 PM
I have been able to completely remove the boot sound, and I have mapped all locations for the sound banks, but I am more interested in changing the flubber at the moment. I have the offsets for the logos verts and indices, but I can't figure out what format they are in, as they don't have the same DWord format that the pixel shaders do. Anyone know how to read a compressed vert/indice pair in and get floats out? This DirectX stuff is starting to give me a head ache.
To get the source code I am working with (not really useable to compile with, but gives you all the binary/asm code you could ever want) and you have the XDK, run 'dumpbin.exe /symbols /disasm xboxkrnl.exe > out.hex'. You get a nice 12 meg file with variable names and such. The offsets are all wrong (because its a debug bios as far as I can tell, but you can cross reference the hex with a hex editor to find the right offsets.)
PLEASE HELP!
Post by: 82ross on April 14, 2004, 06:15:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 14, 2004, 06:30:00 PM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Apr 15 2004, 03:15 AM) |
| I think a lot of people are intrested in your work but the level of ASM and D3D experience needed to be of any use is beyond them (inc. me). |
Hehe, no probs. I had a major break through tonight! I can now controll the camera (Team Xecuter has anounced this to be included with their new bios, but you can do it now! ) The camera was easy enough to figure out once I looked at it. All it is, is a list of points on a tweened path
I'll post a vid once I can write a nice demo
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 15, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on April 15, 2004, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on April 16, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on April 16, 2004, 03:29:00 PM
nice
Post by: Pillzburydoofus on April 16, 2004, 04:15:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on April 16, 2004, 04:56:00 PM
Post by: 82ross on April 16, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
Maybe it turned the camera away from the whole thing to point me looking to a void. Or maybe i just had too many tweaks all at the same time and i fudged one!The flubber itself is made up of a outer shell and several inner blobs which moves through/in and out of the shell creating the flubber "waves" you see. Maybe complex took control of the balls shape and movement and thats what they used to spell complex, hiding everything else they didnt need. I doubt that though because from what i can remember the model complex used throbbed exactly like the outer shell does.
If you want to change the size of the "balls" just change the float at 0x2DDC.
To be able to see them clearly you can flatten a dimension/scale (preferably Z) of the outershell in the portion where you change the colour of the flubber.
EG
| CODE |
| 0x5D9B3 mov dword ptr [ecx+4Ch], 3E19999Ah; // Blob B Value 0x5D9D6 fstp dword ptr [ecx+68h]; // Blob Scale Z |
In hex swap the 4C with 68 and then change the 3E19999A float to about 0.002 to flatten the Z scale. Ill check all this tommorrow, its 5am and im too tired to double check things now.
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 16, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Apr 17 2004, 02:47 AM) |
| The flubber itself is made up of a outer shell and several inner blobs which moves through/in and out of the shell creating the flubber "waves" you see. Maybe complex took control of the balls shape and movement and thats what they used to spell complex, hiding everything else they didnt need. I doubt that though because from what i can remember the model complex used throbbed exactly like the outer shell does. |
That was my thought too. I've been playing with the "XBOX" text, and gotten some wild results, but nothing too useable just yet. The slightest change radicly changes the scene. So I am getting a little confused.
Post by: DJLotus on April 16, 2004, 07:23:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on April 16, 2004, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 16, 2004, 10:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (heinrich @ Apr 17 2004, 06:09 AM) |
| I am almost positive that complex built that bios from source, which I imagine would be a bit easier to work with. |
Waaah! I want the source files too! I can read C++, this ASM shit is giving me a headache. x86 ASM doesn't even make sense. Give me a good ol' 68k board
Post by: GameDTX on April 17, 2004, 05:11:00 AM
stream: http://members.shaw....oko/complex.wmv
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 17, 2004, 06:52:00 AM
All I need to do is figure out the 3D format (even with help its like being in a dark room looking for a light switch). Teaser: Vid Sans-Flubber
Post by: Videogamebuyer14 on April 17, 2004, 07:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 17 2004, 08:52 AM) |
| I am sooo close to being able to do the entire 'complex' flubber hack. I removed the flubber All I need to do is figure out the 3D format (even with help its like being in a dark room looking for a light switch). Teaser: Vid Sans-Flubber |
Man, you are really good. If you need any help, I'll try and help as much as possible. If you need a 3d model to import into the bios, just let me know. It may just be an .x file and follow the vertice layout like if you save a model in .x format and read it, it's just a bunch of numbers, so maybe that's what thier using.....
Are you using hex or ASM?
Post by: 82ross on April 17, 2004, 09:00:00 AM
| QUOTE (Videogamebuyer14 @ Apr 17 2004, 04:09 PM) |
| Are you using hex or ASM? |
Bit of both probably
Post by: DJLotus on April 17, 2004, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: DJLotus on April 17, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
Post by: Psilocybe on April 17, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
all values would be the same i guess no matter what bios
zinkoxyde I wish i would have finished filling out my app for rit then i could be there working with you right now. i do have a friend that goes there
i can see what you are trying to do, but you aren't pointing too much (that i can see) to what to edit where, or what you are looking for while editing
did you disassemble the xboxkrnl.img and start searching for different values or what? how are you finding the values that you are chaning for the camera angles (i know you mentioned pi, but what let you know that pi would be the magic number)
i would love to mess around with this myself if there were a little more info
if the info is here and i can't see it i guess i don't deserve to be messing with it, but if it's not here please post so i can start experimenting too
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 17, 2004, 10:37:00 PM
We'll see a bit later. I just need to figure out how to create a new 3d object in ASM
Post by: Psilocybe on April 17, 2004, 11:04:00 PM
then using the sound to figure out approximately where in the hex code you'll find certain values?
i may take a better look at what you have posted here already tomarrow or later in the week when i have more time, maybe i'm just too tired to figure some of this out right now
Post by: DJLotus on April 18, 2004, 06:33:00 PM
and NghtShd,
if you come back to check up on this topic, could maybe atleast give us the offsets that messed with X and what not, or give zink a copy off it, it may help
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 19, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (Videogamebuyer14 @ Apr 17 2004, 10:09 AM) |
| If you need a 3d model to import into the bios, just let me know. It may just be an .x file and follow the vertice layout like if you save a model in .x format and read it, it's just a bunch of numbers, so maybe that's what thier using..... |
I have both indices and vertex lists, but I don't know how to convert a bunch of points into a 3d program. Its just a map of X Y and Z data. I am not sure why the indices have negitive numbers, perhapse I am missing something still.
Here it is for an example:
Xbox Text Logo
I am going to bang on the audio stuff for a while now...
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 20, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
Anyone know enough C++ to write a program that will decompress and recompress this stuff?
Post by: afon on April 23, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Anyone want to Vid capture this for me?
Post by: YoshiKool on April 23, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
All from 4981.67.
0x2DB8 = Shaking of lights? Not sure on this one (default: 0.1)
0x2DBC = Not sure on this one either, kind of squashes screen with decrease (default: 0.5)
0x2DC0 = Vertical stretching of the screen (default: -0.5)
0x2DC4 = Unsure, seems to push 2D stuff to top right on increase (default: -1)
0x2DC8 = Horizontal stretching of the screen (default: 0.75)
0x2DCC = Zooming of screen, negative = upside down (default: 0.25)
If you have seen some of these before just disreagrd them, I kinda just changed random values that might affect stuff. Note all of these ALSO affect X\XBOX logos but not XECUTER2.
Post by: blackdevl on April 23, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
Post by: AE6689 on April 23, 2004, 12:25:00 PM
Post by: Psilocybe on April 23, 2004, 12:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 23 2004, 07:03 PM) |
| http://www.rit.edu/~...os/ind-bios.avi Anyone want to Vid capture this for me? |
i could run a vid capture for you easily, just let me know with a pm or something
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 01:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (blackdevl @ Apr 23 2004, 01:47 PM) |
| no matter what they say about you in #xbins-help, your ok in my book. |
?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on April 23, 2004, 04:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (AE6689 @ Apr 23 2004, 05:25 PM) |
| @YoshiKool your values should not affect the XECUTER2 part, they are stored in a RAW file somewhere in the bios if I am remembering right. (There's a tut floating around somewhere so that you can change it to anything you want) |
The tutorial you are thinking of is for any bios but xecuter2, and changes the image in an .xbe.
Post by: SniperKilla on April 23, 2004, 05:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 23 2004, 10:40 PM) |
| Thanks to Psilocybe: Better Quality Vid |
ok how about we post on how to do this now
Post by: DJLotus on April 23, 2004, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: Psilocybe on April 23, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ Apr 24 2004, 03:12 AM) |
| zink, you have come a fairly long way in a short amount of time. thats pretty friggin tight. im gonna guess that it wont be too much longer til you have it figured so we can change the big fatty X, and maybe someday, that damn flubber |
this probably wont be too far away, i'm guessing he has some source files now due to that last bit he did
i'm just hoping he's good with making programs so he can put all this together somewhat like xbtool currently is
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
| QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Apr 23 2004, 09:45 PM) |
| this probably wont be too far away, i'm guessing he has some source files now due to that last bit he did i'm just hoping he's good with making programs so he can put all this together somewhat like xbtool currently is |
I am working on a program now. It is very buggy obviously, but I can release it, as long as no one asks me how to use it beyond the little tutortial I'll include. I plan on writing in features to automaticly patch or grab meshes from the bios. You also have to position the meshes by hand right now. This too will be fixed. Lastly, meshes over 125 indices will most likely crash the program.
If you are interested, and know what you are doing here is a taste:
MeshMasher download
Make your mesh, paste it into the input window (comma dilimited). Out comes a string in the correct format. Paste it into hex workshop, with the correct offsets (provided). Do the same with the indices. You'll need to play with the oreination and stuff. Grab the xbox text mesh to help you center it (created with this program, but those features are disabled right now). You might also have to play with the face direction (culling order). Like I said, because this is so buggy, hold on to your questions until I get a more friendly version out, or Team Xecuter gets theirs out, sounds like they are further ahead too.
Post by: Psilocybe on April 23, 2004, 09:31:00 PM
looks like a good start, i didn't relize that you had made it though, and i also assumed the .x file you had was extracted from the sources
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 10:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Apr 24 2004, 12:31 AM) |
| yeah i saw that program earlier actually and played around with it a little looks like a good start, i didn't relize that you had made it though, and i also assumed the .x file you had was extracted from the sources |
Yes, I made it (where did you see it?) and no, I made the X file from the hex code pulled from the kernel. This was before I knew there was sources available
Post by: Psilocybe on April 23, 2004, 10:05:00 PM
i saw it when i was letting you know about an index page. i also got the x file then too. this is why i let you know to put up a blank page. i've had sites where i forgot to make an index or didn't think of it before too then realized people could see anything i put up easily
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 23, 2004, 10:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (Psilocybe @ Apr 24 2004, 01:05 AM) |
| i for one hope you continue to do it strictly at asm/hex level. i feel it would be a much greater accomplishment. i saw it when i was letting you know about an index page. i also got the x file then too. this is why i let you know to put up a blank page. i've had sites where i forgot to make an index or didn't think of it before too then realized people could see anything i put up easily |
It didn't matter too much, because I posted all that stuff for a reason, but that bios file did need to be hidden. I don't care if people grab my program, but the bin in kinda...
Post by: DJLotus on April 23, 2004, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Psilocybe on April 24, 2004, 06:29:00 PM
| QUOTE (Cedric2911 @ Apr 25 2004, 12:27 AM) |
| whaouu this is awesome !! good job to all ps: some one can explique me about who to change the Xbox logo ?^^ |
modify the .x file that was listed above
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 25, 2004, 12:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ Apr 24 2004, 01:53 AM) |
| i know that we are all excited about this stuff, it friggin rox, but have you made anymore headway into the whole sound thing, or did you finish that up and are just waiting to release a proggie? and zink, once again, awesome. i love it, its way too cool.im just waiting for the day where i can replace the flubber with my own model (i wanna use a danceing lego man lol) |
I can completely replace the boot sound now, the only problem is that I don't know how to resize the segments. An 8 second signed 8-bit audio sample is about 120k. I simply don't see room for it in there without resizing something. I figure that insted of monkeying around with midi voices (I figured out how they did it, and I don't want to touch that shit :-p), I would just remove the extra tracks, and make one track that plays a voice for 8 seconds and stops. As soon as I can figure out how to get an 8-second clip in there, I'll release a program to do it for you. I have already got it playing smaller clips on boot, completely replacing the stock sound, but it only plays for a second.
Anyone good with ASM or microcode? This one might be over my head. Um, so yeah, to answer your question, I have it all figured out, I just have no place to put it.
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 25, 2004, 12:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (Cedric2911 @ Apr 24 2004, 06:27 PM) |
| whaouu this is awesome !! good job to all ps: some one can explique me about who to change the Xbox logo ?^^ |
You'll probibly need a 3d program, or a model aproximitly the same size as the xbox one. I included the stock xbox .X file because it lists the position and dimentions that the one you replace it with MUST have. The logo seems to have a small window in it, because if you move the logo in any direction it clips. I had a hard time getting it to center properly (until I used the .X as a reference) I find exporting a mesh into 3DS format and using Deep Exploration (in the XDK) to make it an X file works best.
Post by: DJLotus on April 25, 2004, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 25, 2004, 12:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ Apr 25 2004, 03:48 AM) |
| sweet. so it seems tha all thats left to toy around with is the flubberand the xbox text (at least to make it easier) |
I thought I almost had it the other day. I was going to replace the call to the initvblob to the init for the xbox slashes. I might still be able to get it to work. But like I said, my limitation right now is that I need room to do this stuff in there, and I don't know how to resize the PE headers. Other wise, I could just compile a custom bios and copy the appropreate code and paste it into the X2 bios. Right now I am just playing games with the existing data. I think I am going to take a look again at nghtshd's xbtool source and see if I can adapt it a little. I know he already has some bios expansion stuff in there. I should be able to change the jump points to the data after that.
While on the subject, it was mentioned above about keeping this as a pure ASM hack. It totaly will. I am doing this to spruce up my own box, while I wait for the X3, so makeing my own bios is a dumb shit idea
I have no intention of messing with that crap. Leave it to the professionals, I say. (Mad props to the Ind-Bios guys btw)
Post by: DJLotus on April 25, 2004, 01:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 25 2004, 09:56 AM) |
| I thought I almost had it the other day. I was going to replace the call to the initvblob to the init for the xbox slashes. I might still be able to get it to work. But like I said, my limitation right now is that I need room to do this stuff in there, and I don't know how to resize the PE headers. Other wise, I could just compile a custom bios and copy the appropreate code and paste it into the X2 bios. Right now I am just playing games with the existing data. I think I am going to take a look again at nghtshd's xbtool source and see if I can adapt it a little. I know he already has some bios expansion stuff in there. I should be able to change the jump points to the data after that. While on the subject, it was mentioned above about keeping this as a pure ASM hack. It totaly will. I am doing this to spruce up my own box, while I wait for the X3, so makeing my own bios is a dumb shit idea I have no intention of messing with that crap. Leave it to the professionals, I say. (Mad props to the Ind-Bios guys btw) |
i was about to say make it bfm, then i realized with that = nobootsequence (duh) it made me think, what if there were a bios that was just a shortcut (so to speak) that points to an actualy bios on a given partition. prolly wont happen. or if there was a way to get it to boot on restart, like in. like um, select a bios, and upon restart that's whats loaded. after haveing typed all of this up, i'm wonderying why i'll even post it
Post by: Robs2u on April 25, 2004, 08:54:00 AM
Post by: DJLotus on April 25, 2004, 09:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (Robs2u @ Apr 25 2004, 05:54 PM) |
| Ya know iv'e been researching this for a few days because i'd like to change the color of the flubber and boot screen,and damnit i cant find all that much info on it,I also have no bios editing experiance but if anyone here has any place for me to check out on how to do this could ya help me please? |
you can change the boot screen with XBTool and the bios preset color maker for it make the boot screen easy to cahnge colors on, the flubber, is another matter. as of yet, you need to manually hack your bios on order to change the flubber color. there are tutorials areound in the forums, i think they are in the xecuter2 area, cant remember for sure
Post by: Robs2u on April 25, 2004, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 26, 2004, 05:16:00 AM
Ignore that... It was the Remainder.img I was using....
Post by: DJLotus on April 26, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 26 2004, 02:16 PM) |
| I figured out the sound thing, and the expansion thing (thanks NghtShd) but when I pack a bios with a sound clip larger then a few kilobytes, XBTool craps itself. Not sure why. I get a Read and then a Write error. It happens wheither I pack to 256k, 512k, or 1mb. So I relocated the sounds, and resized them, and got them playing when I want, but I can't 'replace' them with one 8 second sound. Ignore that... It was the Remainder.img I was using.... |
i kinda figured you were gonna use the Remainder. but thats besides the point. have you tried just totally taking out the sound? or maybe muting it? and has NghtShd thought more on releasing his xbox text smasher utility?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 26, 2004, 03:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ Apr 26 2004, 05:31 PM) |
| i kinda figured you were gonna use the Remainder. but thats besides the point. have you tried just totally taking out the sound? or maybe muting it? and has NghtShd thought more on releasing his xbox text smasher utility? |
I am not sure what you mean? It seems to work okay now, I just havn't bothered writing an app yet.
What text smasher utility?
Post by: DJLotus on April 26, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
and also, is the app you posted what you used to make it say lnd-bios?
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 26, 2004, 06:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ Apr 26 2004, 06:10 PM) |
| the one where he said it made it look like it got hit by a bus and also, is the app you posted what you used to make it say lnd-bios? |
Yep, that is what I used
Post by: DJLotus on April 26, 2004, 09:00:00 PM
do you have a tut on how to use it yet? cuz im not sure where to start when inputting the indeces/vertices from the xboxtext file. and im going to assume it was pretty hard to make it say lnd-bios?
Post by: evoxreloaded on April 27, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
the flubber looks 2 b a bunch of particles placed in well different places... but the text looks to be injected like a 3d model.... can anyone confirm what they used??
Post by: 82ross on April 27, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 27, 2004, 05:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Apr 27 2004, 06:28 PM) |
| I belive complex complied their video from source code so replaced the flubber with whatever they wanted. Probably a flat 3d model. |
If its not source, its a hell of a hack. I've been trying to do this in ASM, its not happening. Calling meshes and making dynamic flubbers seem to be two very different things.
Post by: DJLotus on April 27, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Apr 28 2004, 12:28 AM) |
| I belive complex complied their video from source code so replaced the flubber with whatever they wanted. Probably a flat 3d model. |
could a flat 3d model be considered a sprite?
as soon as i first saw it, iwas automatically thinking "sprite" but now i wonder...
there is a way to kinda just cut out the flubber right? Like not have it there? in assuming this, what if they just did some camera manipulation and recorded a few movies. then somebody with any decent movie modifying/editing can easily just pop it in there and do the expanding/contracting thing. could be a reason that they scrapped the whole thing, couldn't come through on it. but then again, i may be totally off base. if i remeber they just got fed up with people bugging them and they just quit.
there's my 2 cents
Post by: evoxreloaded on April 28, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 28, 2004, 03:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (evoxreloaded @ Apr 28 2004, 06:28 PM) |
| finding the source of the object is a big step but of course sceners already proved that.... now its a matter of injection..... can the flubber be extracted as a file?? try to import it to maya....then play |
As has been stated, the flubber is a mathematical model. Its not a mesh. Its generated on the fly at boot time. The only thing I can think of is removing it all together and splicing in a call to init another mesh in its place.
Post by: cromat44 on April 28, 2004, 07:21:00 PM
Post by: AE6689 on April 29, 2004, 11:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Apr 29 2004, 12:40 AM) |
| As has been stated, the flubber is a mathematical model. Its not a mesh. Its generated on the fly at boot time. The only thing I can think of is removing it all together and splicing in a call to init another mesh in its place. |
This would probably be impossibly difficult but if you could break the code that decodes the mathematical model then couldn't you write a program to generate the right numbers and make it show what you want it to? I'm not a programmer or anything (yet) so you can go ahead and flame me if you want. It's just an idea, though I doubt it is possible. btw keep up the good work zinkoxyde, you are doing an awesome job!
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 29, 2004, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: evoxreloaded on April 29, 2004, 04:02:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| As has been stated, the flubber is a mathematical model. Its not a mesh. Its generated on the fly at boot time. The only thing I can think of is removing it all together and splicing in a call to init another mesh in its place. |
Post by: zinkoxyde on April 29, 2004, 06:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (aweelz @ Apr 29 2004, 07:46 PM) |
| Im not sure what you mean about the c++ library. What do you want to use it for/run it in? Aweelz |
Kinda like a XML parser... It would be nice if I could read a file and get all the values stored in it. Hard to explain.
Like if I had a file "foo.h":
char bar = 'a';
I want a parser that returns foo or something like that and I can say foo[bar] and get the value 'a'.
Yeah makes no sense.
Post by: Zer04evr on May 02, 2004, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on May 03, 2004, 04:58:00 AM
Post by: EcL|PsE on May 03, 2004, 12:58:00 PM
cya
Post by: zinkoxyde on May 03, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
Post by: evoxreloaded on May 03, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: DJLotus on May 03, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ May 3 2004, 10:26 PM) |
| He is suggesting a method of loading meshes and turning on/off the BGM, it applies to the dash, but in this instance has nothing to do with it. Maybe you folks should have read his entire post before jumping down his throat? |
i was here since the beginning of the thread. and he was here not too long after, he should have an idea, i didn't think that i sounded harsh, but if i were, i am indeed sorry.
Post by: zinkoxyde on May 04, 2004, 05:22:00 AM
No harm done.
Post by: EcL|PsE on May 04, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
any advancements
whats the current status
Post by: PaCMaYNE on May 06, 2004, 06:12:00 AM
Post by: EcL|PsE on May 08, 2004, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: DJLotus on May 08, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on May 08, 2004, 03:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (DJLotus @ May 8 2004, 05:13 PM) |
| haven't heard anything new lately. so hows progress? |
Things are coolies.
Post by: DJLotus on May 08, 2004, 09:07:00 PM
Post by: EcL|PsE on May 10, 2004, 03:26:00 AM
Post by: DJLotus on May 12, 2004, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: evoxreloaded on May 13, 2004, 04:25:00 PM
?MINE!
Post by: DJLotus on May 16, 2004, 03:09:00 PM
anyways, let us in on some news
BUMPAGE
Post by: AE6689 on May 21, 2004, 02:09:00 PM
Are there any updates on this stuff?
Post by: DJLotus on May 23, 2004, 07:47:00 AM
Post by: evoxreloaded on May 25, 2004, 09:12:00 AM
::boingy::
Post by: JayDee on May 27, 2004, 01:26:00 PM
| QUOTE (heinrich @ Apr 24 2004, 01:17 AM) |
| The tutorial you are thinking of is for any bios but xecuter2, and changes the image in an .xbe. |
To be totaly honest there is a nice working program that allows you to edit the raw file in the x2 biose bin.
I have used it myself and it works fine!
Link
Post by: heinrich on May 27, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
Post by: pdottz on July 01, 2004, 01:12:00 AM
yes I know it's an old video but i just had to comment on it,
Post by: zinkoxyde on July 01, 2004, 09:47:00 AM
Post by: pdottz on July 01, 2004, 07:00:00 PM
oh yeah, does anyone still have that complex video with the flubber thign everyone was talking about? I did a search all over the place and couldn't find any reference to it on it e forums. but I really want to see it.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 06, 2004, 12:44:00 AM
Not bad for my first go at coding either, lol
Link to Video cap:
http://www.xbhacker....deo/SmartXX.wmv
For those of you who want it...
Get PPF-O-Matic 3.0 ( http://www.paradogs....x_ppf3.htm#ppfb )
Use that to apply this PFF file to your x2 4981.06.bin ( It has to be this bios)
Or for those who know how to unpack the bios using xbtool you can use this PPF
PPF's for 'x-scene' will be available later.
Thanks goto ZinkOxyde for is excellent MeshMasher, without it, this would not have been possible.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 06, 2004, 02:18:00 AM
Vid Cap: http://www.xbhacker....deo/x-scene.wmv
And PPF's to match
For the Full bios.bin http://www.xbhacker....ene_fullbin.ppf
For the xboxkrnl http://www.xbhacker....ne_xboxkrnl.ppf
Post by: pdottz on July 06, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 06, 2004, 02:27:00 AM
You will also need the XDK, and a Decent 3D program, I use 3DS Max.
Post by: pdottz on July 06, 2004, 02:38:00 AM
I use Blender3d 2.33a. what do I export my mesh as?
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 14, 2004, 05:26:00 PM
Well here it is:
http://www.xbhacker....XBTC_V0.001.zip
This is a very early alpha version, so please expect a few bugs.
The text file will contain 2 lots of hex code, the first is the vertices and the second the indices.
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pdottz:
I'll download the newer version and see what I can do.
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Justplayn:
Make sure that you are incerting 0's to fill out the HEX and not replacing.
(HEX Workshop replaces by default - press the incert key to toggle modes)
Post by: pdottz on July 14, 2004, 05:54:00 PM
so this tool also replaces meshmasher?
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 14, 2004, 06:03:00 PM
You cant do that, that funtion automatically replaces HEX code.
When you press the 0 key, see if the hex after it moves...
If it does not then you are replacing and not incerting.
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Also I've tried Deep Exploration 3.5, did'nt have any trouble with it.
I'll keep trying to see if I can get it to give me 4 digit coordinates.
Post by: pdottz on July 14, 2004, 06:06:00 PM
so it's OK for the text after the green area to move while inserting? I thought that would mess up the rest of the bios.guess ill try inserting when I get home.
ps. so glad I got a split tsop
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 14, 2004, 06:14:00 PM
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 15, 2004, 01:55:00 AM
Any chance of you posting some screen grabs?
Oh, if you want to change the colour's I've found it best to use the X2 4979.
Post by: pdottz on July 15, 2004, 02:59:00 AM
everything that was going wrong was with the INSERT.
http://members.cox.net/pdottz/boot.avi
divx5.1 is needed since I dont know how to encode wmv with vdub.
anyways as you can see this is totally out there. the face is upside down and backwards. and in a totally outside location.
I used D.E. 3.5 to export the .x file and used xbtc to make the hex.
in D.E. 3.5 I inverted the faces so they all faced the FRONT,
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 15, 2004, 05:57:00 AM
VDUB no longer supports them.
Cool vid btw.
Post by: pdottz on July 15, 2004, 12:21:00 PM
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 15, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (pdottz @ Jul 15 2004, 09:21 PM) |
| does anyone have any idea why my image ended up the way it did.? |
look's like the coordinates are off, can you post the original .x file?
Post by: pdottz on July 15, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
http://members.cox.n...ttz/pxlboot.avi
here are the coordinates and sizes I used. hit the Nkey if your using blender to bring up the menu for it.
this is assuming your using 6 letters like me, but if your not. twaeking is very easy.
LocX: -79.891
LocY: -42.096
LocZ: -57.996
RotX: 90.000
SizeX: 32.0
SizeY: 32.0
SizeZ: 1.0
one thing I found out is that HEIGHT and VERTICAL placement doesnt really matter. but that LENGTH and HORIZONTAL placement does.(cuts off)
the reason I say this is because I had that face I made huge. almost completely covered the Xlogo. I could have made it completely cover it if I had kept on tweaking in. so for those of you that want an image there, for now you'll have to see the Xlogo appear and then cover it up with your own image/text.
hope that was clear
by the way, awesome tools zink and kraven.
Post by: pdottz on July 15, 2004, 02:08:00 PM
make all your changes with xbtool. and flubbertool and then unpack.
havent tried using logox2 yet with all this but I will later on and let everyone know how it turns out.
Post by: clogicgmather on July 15, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
Guy
Post by: Jusplayn on July 15, 2004, 03:50:00 PM
I first tried changing the logo and text blue with xbtool then hexedited...then used the flubbertool to make a whitebackground and blue flubber...when I loaded it up on the xbox the background was white and flubber blue....but the Xbox Logo and text was green....So I did what Pdottz did.....I used xbtool first, then flubbertool2.0, then hexedited the text...loaded the bios on my xbox...now the background was black and flubber green and the xbox logo and text was blue....I dont think we can have the best of both worlds here.......Let me know if anyone has any luck....Keith
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 15, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
I'm having the same troubles as you using any of the others.
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It won't be long untill XBTC will contain all these functions itself.
Eventually (if development & interest continues at the current rate) we are looking at having it as one compleate application...
You create your .x file, choose what colour you want the text & the flubber, and hit go, and out pops a fully modded bios.
But this will take time... maybe 2-3 months, who knows it could be sooner. We might even get round to making it run on the XBox.
One thing it wont include though (for now) is support for the 4983 or the M8 bios's.
Post by: Psilocybe on July 15, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: pdottz on July 16, 2004, 02:42:00 AM
everything still booted though.Post by: pdottz on July 16, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
I wonder why D.E. would make a .x with positive coords if I used the exact location and size for that image as I made for my other working text.
Ill make some changes though and see what happens.
Post by: pdottz on July 16, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
sorry.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 16, 2004, 06:45:00 PM
What's new & fixed,
The rather annoying dos window no longer apperears.
Internal code cleaning, (Smaller file size)
Download: http://xbhacker.co.u...XBTC_V0.002.zip
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atomix:
If I have enough time I'll see if I can get a MAYA template made,
I know not everyone likes 3DS, but with it having a non watermarking trial available I thought it was the best option.
Post by: 82ross on July 17, 2004, 10:15:00 AM
WinXP SP2 2149)Only suggestions i can make are:
i) update your tutorial!
some people might not notice that you dont need certain parts of it anymore.ii) auto fill the inds and verts with 00's (00's work fine for me) so no additional shifting needs to be done in Hex Workshop.
Great work.
The bigX is a bit more complicated
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 17, 2004, 11:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (82ross @ Jul 17 2004, 07:15 PM) |
| i) update your tutorial! some people might not notice that you dont need certain parts of it anymore. ii) auto fill the inds and verts with 00's (00's work fine for me) so no additional shifting needs to be done in Hex Workshop. |
The tutorial will be posted tomorrow.
And the auto fill is due for V0.003
Strange V2 does not output a text file, I'll get this sorted asap.
Post by: pdottz on July 17, 2004, 03:29:00 PM
this is strictly for my media center box. as soon as theres a way to get rid of that X and just keep text or change the X itself then this will suffice for me
thanks zink and kraven.
http://members.cox.n...bphoneslogo.avi
for the headphones, I still got about 30 vertices to work with before I huit 156. so Ill probably add a little more detail to it later on.
I used the x2 4981.67 bios btw.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 17, 2004, 05:55:00 PM
That is excellent,
It wont be long before you can change the big X,
ThE-LyNX has extracted about 30% of the model from the bios's, It seems the X is 4 models layerd together, we'll keep you posted.
Post by: Q3A-TaNK on July 17, 2004, 08:09:00 PM
Post by: pdottz on July 17, 2004, 10:29:00 PM
no. meshmasher is no longer needed.
Post by: jokk on July 18, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
*updated*
few typo, same offset as m8 1.6 as well.
works just like any other bios.
Thx nghshd for EVTool.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 18, 2004, 08:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (jokk @ Jul 18 2004, 05:01 PM) |
| m8 bookmark only test on M8_16_LBA48_IGR_Q-06.bin atm |
Thank's I'll check it out, hope it works
Post by: pdottz on July 18, 2004, 09:38:00 AM
I use Blender3d to do all my modeling in.
Since modeling in Blender is almost totally vertex based it's easy to see how many you have used . I still have about 30 more vertices I can use before I reach the limit that my .x file can have.
oh and inserting the image in the bios is the same as inserting text.
except that in blender you have to export selected as STL. and Deep Exploration 3.5 can read that. So it all works out. positioning took about 40 minutes to get it right.
Post by: pdottz on July 18, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
Post by: SeanicTheHedgehog on July 18, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
EDIT: Went back to 001 and everything is gravy now.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 18, 2004, 03:59:00 PM
Post by: Jusplayn on July 18, 2004, 04:03:00 PM
Post by: clogicgmather on July 18, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
http://www.xbhacker....ber/flubber.rar
Guy
Post by: Psilocybe on July 19, 2004, 01:02:00 AM
http://psilocybe.emo...com/PsiLogo.wmv
the video is much better, i've done all tweaks from a white bg, spinning cam, smaller sized flubber, my Psilocybin Logo (made a true type font of it), my Psilocybe name under that, and the 2tone background in the final screen (yes the tops actually cave in like that and the back is black and white both)
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 19, 2004, 05:43:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...dpost&p=1613928
Post by: ravage73 on July 22, 2004, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: SeanicTheHedgehog on July 24, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Sean
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 24, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
It's just a little harder for the X, it's not just 1 3D model like it look's
We have got all the vertex info out, now it's just a case of extracting the correct indices.
Post by: Psilocybe on July 24, 2004, 05:11:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| o, is there any news on changing the big "X" on the splash screen, after thats possible We could have some really cool bioses. Last i heard i thought u said they were 30% done extracting all the parts of the X but i dont know if someones still working on this. If anyone has an update....... |
there are 4 layers, one is the light rays aiming at the X, another is the surface that the light hits, another is the box defining the outer edges of what can be hit, and last is the frame of the X itself
as kraven mentioned this isn't easy to modify
also keep in mind that even if you put your own image and whatnot in place of the X, when the animation is fading in from the flubber to the x, the screen will still fade in as it's making an X and only the very last frame of it will be your image. it IS a full animation, not just a final Logo like the XBOX text is
the following is a list of the 4 different objects that make up the X logo
X logo surface
| CODE |
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Post by: Kraven_UK on July 24, 2004, 06:33:00 PM
If we keep at it, it will not be long before the whole lot can be changed.
It's just a matter of getting enough info out of the bios, to see how the maths of the animation work.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 24, 2004, 08:44:00 PM
This is for editing the big X
This was rendered in 3ds max, and was built
using the .x files by Psilocybe & ThE_LyNX.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 25, 2004, 03:10:00 AM
With FFT (combined FlubberTool & XBTC) due for release with days,
All related download are being moved into XBHacker's main site: http://www.xbhacker.co.uk.
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 25, 2004, 04:20:00 AM
There is also a support site available: http://www.xbhacker.co.uk
If you think XBTC is easy, just wait untill FFT is released.
All the features of XBTC V2 & FlubberTool combined.
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 08:24:00 AM
mrcmax.x
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 25, 2004, 08:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (mrcmax @ Jul 25 2004, 04:27 PM) |
| i have tried everything, even ftt, but it still wont work, i have come to the conclusion that it is my .x file, i will post it so you can take a look at it, it looks fine in deep exploration, but when its in the bios, its a whole buncha big polygons, i dont know what went wrong! mrcmax.x |
Yes, it's your .x file.
Try using an older version of Deep Exploration.
3.0 and above use 4 digit coordinates where as older ones don't.
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 08:53:00 AM
i have 3.5 right now
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 25, 2004, 08:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (mrcmax @ Jul 25 2004, 04:56 PM) |
| ahh, thanks, so i need deep exploration v2? i have 3.5 right now |
Yes, but you will have to use your orginal DXf file for it to work,
Also chack that 3DS is set to use 2 digit coord's
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 09:01:00 AM
Post by: Kraven_UK on July 25, 2004, 09:08:00 AM
Mine came with the XDK
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 09:13:00 AM
Post by: clogicgmather on July 25, 2004, 09:14:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| ahh, thanks, so i need deep exploration v2? i have 3.5 right now |
Deep Exploration 2.0
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: pdottz on July 25, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
. does anyone know how to hex edit that moo sound that zink did?
Post by: mrcmax on July 25, 2004, 07:08:00 PM
Post by: zinkoxyde on July 25, 2004, 10:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (mrcmax @ Jul 25 2004, 09:11 PM) |
| im guessing he knows the offset for the stock sound, and he probably just converted the moo into hex and added it in there, not sure though |
Nope, I loaded the kernel into CoolEdit 2000 and inserted it right in there. Then saved it out as a raw dat file. There are only 2 sounds you can change, the other sounds are mathmatical generated. One is the bubble sound, the other is the thunder. Its pretty easy to change the note placement for the sounds, but I have been too lazy to explain
Post by: mrcmax on July 26, 2004, 05:50:00 AM
great work though
Post by: zinkoxyde on July 26, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
But at least you wont have to buy a $70 chip to make it work. My precious flubber hacking will not be in vain!!! Its uber easy to change this one, not like the hex editing that the XBOX text.
Post by: Morglum on July 26, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Jul 26 2004, 11:43 PM) |
| Just so you guys know we've had this for two months. |
Its easy to claim you've had it for two months, but there was no proof untill just now. Complex were first in changing the blob to something else and making the proof public, first by over a year infact, Xecuter second and IND are third.
Post by: greengiant on July 26, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
just ask any of the major guys and u will see who really was first second and third.
Post by: Morglum on July 26, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (greengiant @ Jul 27 2004, 02:21 AM) |
| And its easy to be a prick too. but i guess you know that already. |
Indeed i do, ive had the missfortune to be around the likes of you, jokko and craize.
Also you need to read over what i said again, i said first to make it public 
Post by: 82ross on July 26, 2004, 07:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Jul 27 2004, 12:43 AM) |
| Well, as you might have seen, the ind-bios team and I have released a video of our latest hack... Just so you guys know we've had this for two months. But at least you wont have to buy a $70 chip to make it work. My precious flubber hacking will not be in vain!!! Its uber easy to change this one, not like the hex editing that the XBOX text. |
Do i smell more loading files from hdd?
Youve made a lot of progress Zink. Nicely done.
Post by: zinkoxyde on July 26, 2004, 08:48:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Jul 1 2004, 11:50 AM) |
| Cool things comming... sit tight. |
This is me dropping hints, as the last thing I was mentioning was a flubber hack. I just couldn't release it because it was a group project and we were missing a key element. IDK, Morglum, all I have seen from Complex (who were a big insperation) and X3 is a video so far. A Complex member even told me that they couldn't make it work in a bios. And concidering the X3 is still largely unavailable and this hack will run on any chip....
But I don't want a flame war, I worked very hard on this and I am not going to let you ruin my mood
Post by: Morglum on July 26, 2004, 09:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (zinkoxyde @ Jul 27 2004, 03:51 AM) |
| But I don't want a flame war, I worked very hard on this and I am not going to let you ruin my mood |
Never my intention to start a flame war, speak to greengiant about that
I was just pointing out its easy to say you had something done months ago when another group has just released some evidence of that exact same thing yet you'd produced nothing of a public nature untill afterwards.Either way it dont look bad, the choice of image for the blob replacement (the x-s man) is questionable, but then its only an example.
Post by: Morglum on July 26, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
Post by: Psilocybe on July 26, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: NghtShd on July 27, 2004, 12:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (Morglum @ Jul 27 2004, 12:35 AM) |
| LOL, my point still stands though. And as i said, complex, xecuter then ind. Thats the order it was done and released to the public eye. Nothing will ever change that fact, no matter how hard people might try and come up with justifications and excusses. Whats done is done. |
I love it when people try to belittle someone by beginning with "LOL" when nothing even slightly funny was said.
Having said that...
LOL, correction: that's the order in which they were publicized. We don't really know for certain who did what first, though we know Xecuter likes to keep the teasers coming to keep inerest up (that's not criticism--it's just marketing), so I'd bet they haven't been sitting on it long. I know for certain ind-bios has had the flubber replacement for some time. It's the only one I know with absolute certainty exists at all, though I have no reason to doubt the others.
I'm sure if ind-bios is released first then you'll agree that they were first, since it's the first one you'll have seen proof of.
Post by: clogicgmather on July 27, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
Guy
Post by: Morglum on July 27, 2004, 06:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (NghtShd @ Jul 27 2004, 07:14 AM) |
| correction: that's the order in which they were publicized. |
LOL:
Cant you people read or something. I've been saying that from the start
Post by: X-ecuter on July 27, 2004, 07:53:00 AM
Props to the rest of this thread - good to see homebrew community joining their ideas together. keep em coming.
Now who will be te first to attack me ?
Post by: greengiant on July 27, 2004, 08:21:00 AM
how bout this thread get back to its hacks. great work btw on those hacks.
Post by: zinkoxyde on July 27, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (greengiant @ Jul 27 2004, 10:24 AM) |
| now that its all sorted it out..... how bout this thread get back to its hacks. great work btw on those hacks. |
Yeah, sorry about that folks, didn't think that a simple statement like that would have caused a problem. Sorry for the price mixup X
I thought everyone would like to know where I dissapeared to and what I was working on.
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