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Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: xgpu on March 13, 2004, 06:28:00 AM
Ok I'm actually deciding to finally invest in a modchip (I'm not a complete retard) I build my own gaming PC's and I've been pretty submersed in that area for quite some time.  Finally was able to afford my FX5950 and Audigy 2 new mobo and CPU, so now that I've been monitoring the whole mod scene enough to see it's been darn near ironed out, I want to get a mod chip and have a fix on an Xecuter 2 but what is the preferrable bios to go with? I found recently that I cannot ask for an Xecuter 2 4981 (as it is illegal) as well as the EvoxM7.  My questions are:

why are they both illegal?

and is X2 > M7? or is M7 < 4981 ?
see I think it's all a legit question, I'm not asking for those two just insight on them before I make any moves.
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: lordvader129 on March 13, 2004, 08:00:00 AM
both are illegal because both are hacked MS code

and as for which is better, its really a matter of opinion, although the new 4981 is good because it blocks Live (to prevent accidental banning)
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: Exobex on March 13, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE (lordvader129 @ Mar 13 2004, 04:53 PM)
both are illegal because both are hacked MS code

Ahh, but ARE they?

If you reflash your PC's copyrighted, patented BIOS with a newer copyrighted, patented BIOS, are you infringing copyright?  No.  If you translate all the text in the BIOS to German, then flash it, are you infringing copyright?  No.  If that German BIOS were to be uploaded to driverguide.com so that everyone could benefit from a German-translated BIOS, would the manufacturer object?  I shouldn't think so.

A "hacked" Xbox BIOS consists of M$ code minus some M$ code plus some non-M$ code.

By flashing your BIOS you're in effect deleting a little bit of copyright material and replacing it with a little bit of non-copyright material.  M$'s code is still there.  It's just not ALL there. rolleyes.gif
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: BaDvs3viL on March 13, 2004, 11:00:00 AM
I thought the copyright was that you CANT change the code at all......And you CANT reuse any M$ code.....????


Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: Exobex on March 13, 2004, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE (BaDvs3viL @ Mar 13 2004, 07:53 PM)
I thought the copyright was that you CANT change the code at all......And you CANT reuse any M$ code.....????

Don't know about the "change" bit.  as for "re-use", well you ain't.  It's Xbox code going into an Xbox console.  It's not like you're trying to emulate one or build a clone.

Anyway, I don't remember seeing any licence agreement that I had to agree to before I opened my Xbox box, so fuck 'em.  M$ should be grateful that hackers are making it easier for Xbox owners to "afford" games wink.gif  and play them.  The fact that [chipped] Playstation owners were able to get games for a fiver helped Sony slaughter higher-spec.  (and better built) competition from Nintendo and Sega.
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: BaDvs3viL on March 13, 2004, 12:00:00 PM
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The fact that [chipped] Playstation owners were able to get games for a fiver helped Sony slaughter higher-spec. (and better built) competition from Nintendo and Sega.




This is very true......And I have never yet heard of anybody getting into any trouble using and/or doing anything with a bios of any type?......
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: bedderz on March 14, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
hmm what a load of bollocks! who cares if its illegal or not! if u want cheap xbox games and want to watch movies without buying a dongle thingy then chip ur xbox and put whatever bios on there u want!!! look for evox! if u find it! its on many IRC chanles and on some xbox sites and u will have ur M7 bios its included in the package!!
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: Arakon on March 14, 2004, 08:16:00 PM
it's illegal.. only MS would be able to legally distribute a different bios version.
Title: I Feel This Is A Legit Question About Bios
Post by: heinrich on March 15, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE (bedderz @ Mar 14 2004, 07:31 PM)
hmm what a load of bollocks! who cares if its illegal or not! if u want cheap xbox games and want to watch movies without buying a dongle thingy then chip ur xbox and put whatever bios on there u want!!! look for evox! if u find it! its on many IRC chanles and on some xbox sites and u will have ur M7 bios its included in the package!!

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You are preaching to the choir.