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Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: A1patriot on August 23, 2003, 05:01:00 AM
For ppl like me who trashed their x2 lite chips flashing with 4978 bios (yeah, yeah sticks and stones) here is a fix I stumbled upon :-

1. Make a "Free-Xevox" xbox cd and load with x2 lite switched off.
2. It should freeze up ya box cos it's looking for the font hacks (which aren't there).
3. Switch ya chip back on and hit the eject button.
4. Should now reboot into 4978 bios.
5. Now reflash back to 4977 and next time read up b4 u flash (hehe)

PS. did it twice to confirm it works, experiment with the above slighlty if it don't work 4 u.

peace out
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: 0s1r1s on August 23, 2003, 05:04:00 AM
I don't have the X2 Lite, but I posted ur message on the XBox-Hack french community forum to see if it works or not...  rolleyes.gif
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 23, 2003, 05:44:00 AM
QUOTE (A1patriot @ Aug 23 2003, 08:25 AM)
For ppl like me who trashed their x2 lite chips flashing with 4978 bios (yeah, yeah sticks and stones) here is a fix I stumbled upon :-

1. Make a "Free-Xevox" xbox cd and load with x2 lite switched off.
2. It should freeze up ya box cos it's looking for the font hacks (which aren't there).
3. Switch ya chip back on and hit the eject button.
4. Should now reboot into 4978 bios.
5. Now reflash back to 4977 and next time read up b4 u flash (hehe)

PS. did it twice to confirm it works, experiment with the above slighlty if it don't work 4 u.

peace out

If it works, fantastic.  But I guess I'm a little confused as to why that would force the MCPX to grab the full 1024K instead of 512K.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: A1patriot on August 23, 2003, 05:26:00 AM
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 23 2003, 01:08 PM)
If it works, fantastic.  But I guess I'm a little confused as to why that would force the MCPX to grab the full 1024K instead of 512K.

I dunno why it works, I just stumbled across this trying to load the font hack in an attempt rescue my xbox from the bad flash.

the 4978 bios does seems to work in my x2 lite chip (including ftp), just not from cold boot.

This may be of some help to the programmers in solving this problem.

Good luck   rolleyes.gif
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: UnrealEureca on August 23, 2003, 06:12:00 AM
i flashed my bios with a old version of evox i think it was 2.6 with evolution x now i get red and green lights then xbox turns off then back on if i disable the chip it boots to original msdash and i can play normal games

my question is will this work for me to flash my chip with 4977 please let me know before i go and order the 20 dollar programmer
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Ubergeek on August 23, 2003, 06:20:00 AM
QUOTE (A1patriot @ Aug 23 2003, 01:25 PM)
For ppl like me who trashed their x2 lite chips flashing with 4978 bios (yeah, yeah sticks and stones) here is a fix I stumbled upon :-

1. Make a "Free-Xevox" xbox cd and load with x2 lite switched off.
2. It should freeze up ya box cos it's looking for the font hacks (which aren't there).
3. Switch ya chip back on and hit the eject button.
4. Should now reboot into 4978 bios.
5. Now reflash back to 4977 and next time read up b4 u flash (hehe)

PS. did it twice to confirm it works, experiment with the above slighlty if it don't work 4 u.

peace out

yep this works - thanks for posting

we've pretty much found the bug anyway and will rls a corrected version when we get the chance

also working on getting it packed to 512k, shouldnt be too hard - the difficult bit was embedding xbe into the kernel
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: sektor3 on August 23, 2003, 06:27:00 AM
so someone's going to refund me for my mod i had to buy last night? *sigh*
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Ubergeek on August 23, 2003, 06:30:00 AM
QUOTE (sektor3 @ Aug 23 2003, 02:51 PM)
so someone's going to refund me for my mod i had to buy last night? *sigh*

what are you talking about ?
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 23, 2003, 06:32:00 AM
Since this is linked on the front page, let's keep this thread clean guys.  Selected threads have been moved to our evidence locker.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: sektor3 on August 23, 2003, 06:46:00 AM
ubergeek, I am on about the untested bios which has taken my mod and other people's mods and made them as usable as a remote control without battery's.

If the x2lite wasn't tested my friend, why didnt the NFO state that X2LITE users DO NOT USE THIS BIOS AS IT HAS NOT BEEN TESTED ON THE MOD IN QUESTION!.

fine, it was experimental, like all build's are.... but no warning of fragging. Quality or speed of release I feel.

This post has been edited by sektor3: Aug 23 2003, 01:50 PM
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Flagg3 on August 23, 2003, 06:58:00 AM
Man, I can't believe how many people complain about something that is given to them for free.

I think that everyone that screwed up their X2lites with this BIOS release should refer back to this warning every time they download ANY SOFTWARE for the xbox in the future.

"WARNING!  This is beta software.  Use at your own risk!"

Because if your not thinking this everytime you install software, ESPECIALLY A BIOS, then your a fool.  Your not paying for this software, and Team X-ecuter has no obligation to test anything before they release it to the world for free.  If you can't recover from a bad flash, you should never flash your BIOS with any BIOS until it's been released for a few days.  That's just common sense.  

Flagg

Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Strat on August 23, 2003, 06:29:00 AM
Flagg in most cases i would agree with you but you would have thought the executor team would have at least tested the bios on chips that they had released. It's not like x2lite is some unknown chip by some unknown manufacturer. It is made by the guys who released the bios.

Anyway no point bashing them about it. sektor3 To say you deserve a refund it a bit harsh. Never flash your bios unless you have a way of recovering it. This has been stated many times on the forums.

Finally A1patriot good find smile.gif

Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: NFCTinken on August 23, 2003, 07:16:00 AM
Sounds something I will have to try to save my xbox...until my programmer gets here, but one question for you all, what's "Free-Xevox" Cd?  
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Jono on August 23, 2003, 07:19:00 AM
Should the Xbox still give me an error 16 screen if I use the Free-X Evox boot cd? Or is that a bad burn? I made an xiso with extract-xiso from the Free-X Evox directory. Thanks
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: UsMarine on August 23, 2003, 08:07:00 AM
BTW

You cannot modify the colors of the 4978 bios using Xbtool. I returns it back to GREEN. and on boot partitions and executables only xboxdash.xbe is there in XBtool. pretty sure an new 4978 bios will fix that problem.  
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: sektor3 on August 23, 2003, 07:38:00 AM
Managed to get the xbox to play nice and fixed the issue, i managed to use another method of fixing the bios other than the one posted here.

Xecuter, I dont doubt your bios programming ability but maybe in future if the filenames were more clearly labeld as an ALPHA / BETA maybe users wouldn't go "ooooh a new bios, lets get it right now".


Some people live for updates to software, firmware etc... and that is why they perhaps dont always read something properly. Never the less the problem CAN be fixed so people with x2lites dont worry, it is easy to fix.

anyway, i am not flaming any individuals, i was annoyed, upset and yes... slightly p'd off but I am ok now, just hope the rest of you find the fixes useful that people have posted.


regards.
sektor3
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: NFCTinken on August 23, 2003, 07:47:00 AM
When I attempt to do this fix I get a couple of errors. When I try to boot with the chip off and boot from the Free-Xevox CDRW I get an error code 5. I turn my chip back on then put in the CDRW to flash my chip back to 4977 and I then get error code 16. I am familar with the codes, but dont understand how it is supposed to boot from these cds. I followed the above procedures step-by-step and several times, any reason why this is not working?
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: NFCTinken on August 23, 2003, 08:00:00 AM
You are getting error 16 because you are probablly using a larger HD and it is not locked. I even attempted to use my original 8GB Drive and I didnt get error 16, instead I got 5, which is a dashboard related error. If my larger hard driver were locked maybe this method would work, but since my new drive isnt locked and my old drive has the old dashboard naming, I am going to either have to wait for another way to fix this or for my external programmer to get here quick hehe.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: sektor3 on August 23, 2003, 09:40:00 AM
QUOTE ("maxconsole tech help information re: x2lite bad-flash on x2 4978")

1) turn on xbox with the modchip disabled

2) when you enter the default ms dash switch the mod back on.

3) when you have did this open the dvd tray by pressing the eject button.

4) now close the tray again it should boot you to the XBOX Logo and MS one.

5) press eject again and this will fire up XBOX LOGO and xecuter logo.

6) evox should now boot, simply get ftp'd in and flash with an older working bios.

hope this also helps people having problems.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Jono on August 23, 2003, 10:38:00 AM
tongue.gif

I had the Free-X CD in, but I think it was actually your method Sektor3 that worked biggrin.gif

Thanks, hopefully Team Xecuter will have a new 4978 released soon.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: DjoeN on August 23, 2003, 12:27:00 PM
QUOTE

1) turn on xbox with the modchip disabled
2) when you enter the default ms dash switch the mod back on.
3) when you have did this open the dvd tray by pressing the eject button.
4) now close the tray again it should boot you to the XBOX Logo and MS one.
5) press eject again and this will fire up XBOX LOGO and xecuter logo.
6) evox should now boot, simply get ftp'd in and flash with an older working bios.



WORKS smile.gif My X-ecuter 2.2 lite works back perfect smile.gif

ThX

Note:
(this is not to Sektor3 first post, i can understand his reaction wink.gif (-> Love ur Xbox- T-Shirt Design) but to all those other who always complaining about stuff (You will Know for yourself who You are)
To all who complain, THINK TWICE,  dry.gif  those ppl saves you lot's of money with the modchip (go buy a DIVX comp. DVD Player, Go Buy all the games you rip (personal backup (héhé)) wel to all who complain, donate the money you saved to Team X-Ecuter (who, the will be rich guys then) Damned, if you freaking ppl complain about free stuff and this for a modchip you can buy for 50 Euro (around) that's cheaper then a xbox game or a Top notch movie on dvd.

I Flashed the bios, i knew it was alpha, i fucked my x-ecuter 2.2 lite, i complained to myself for fucking around with a alpha bios   mad.gif  and ordered a programmer (can always use it anyway) it was my own fault i fucked up, so why trashing ppl who didn't touch ur modchip/xbox, Anyway there is now a cheap simple solution with only a few presses away to fix it smile.gif  love.gif
(Damned i love those Hackers all around (Whatever Console system it is))  jester.gif   beerchug.gif

*Offtopic*
Now let's hurry and get a modchip for the Gamecube (héhé)  ph34r.gif

DjoeN

UPDATE:

- Xbox V1.1 PAL
- X-ecuter 2.2 Lite with external switches
- Seagate Barracuda 80GB 7200RPM Locked with ConfigMagic
- Evolution-X Dashboard (1.8.3752 i think)
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: chinmi on August 23, 2003, 05:43:00 PM
QUOTE (DjoeN @ Aug 24 2003, 03:27 AM)
*Offtopic*
Now let's hurry and get a modchip for the Gamecube (héhé)  ph34r.gif

 beerchug.gif  beerchug.gif totally agree, so it can read back-up cd beerchug.gif  beerchug.gif

and back *ontopic* :

just finished flashing and trying my x-ecuter 2.2 pro with 4978...
i like it....
but then i return back to 4977 to wait a final release of 4978

good job team x-ecuter !!!!  beerchug.gif  beerchug.gif
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 23, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE (UnrealEureca @ Aug 23 2003, 11:26 PM)
i flashed my bios with a old version of evox i think it was 2.6 with evolution x now i get red and green lights then xbox turns off then back on if i disable the chip it boots to original msdash and i can play normal games

my question is will this work for me to flash my chip with 4977 please let me know before i go and order the 20 dollar programmer

No, your situation is completely unrelated.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 23, 2003, 08:17:00 PM
QUOTE (UnrealEureca @ Aug 24 2003, 12:12 AM)
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 24 2003, 05:02 AM)
QUOTE (UnrealEureca @ Aug 23 2003, 11:26 PM)
i flashed my bios with a old version of evox i think it was 2.6 with evolution x now i get red and green lights then xbox turns off then back on if i disable the chip it boots to original msdash and i can play normal games

my question is will this work for me to flash my chip with 4977 please let me know before i go and order the 20 dollar programmer

No, your situation is completely unrelated.

ok so i need a programmer then cool thanks ill order one right now i dont have a extra chip to be able to swapflash it

Thanks

Not a problem.  Just to clarify, you're either experiencing a bad flash or an incorrect RC4 key (EvoX 2.6 on a 1.1+ Xbox).  What we're discussing regarding 4978 on an X2 Lite is "tricking" the X2 Lite to make the full 1024K available instead of 512K.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: UnrealEureca on August 23, 2003, 10:20:00 PM
yeah i ordered the programmer i actually want to use the 4978 hopefull someone can squeeze it down to 512 so we can flash it on the x2lite

also i have a x2lite would i be better of getting a pro or a chameleon for the future cause it looks like 1 meg bios are coming and the x2lite i got wont be able to hadle the whole 1 meg just the 512
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Terrorbyte on August 25, 2003, 12:16:00 PM
Anyone have an ETA on the "finalized" x2_4978 build?  Lookin forward to the 512k version, small enough to fit on X2Lites (without having to reboot a few times).
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 25, 2003, 12:25:00 PM
QUOTE (Terrorbyte @ Aug 25 2003, 04:16 PM)
Anyone have an ETA on the "finalized" x2_4978 build?  Lookin forward to the 512k version, small enough to fit on X2Lites (without having to reboot a few times).

No idea, but expect it to have a new build number, because to get it down to 512K they're going to have to either code a new FTPd or use a smaller FTP XBE when embedding it into the kernel.  Maybe 4978.1 or something?
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: NFCTinken on August 25, 2003, 04:27:00 PM
wink.gif
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: wtaag on August 27, 2003, 02:39:00 AM
Can you use this say on a cheapmod that had a bad flash via evox?
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: smokeingit on August 27, 2003, 03:09:00 AM
QUOTE (wtaag @ Aug 27 2003, 03:39 AM)
Can you use this say on a cheapmod that had a bad flash via evox?

*sign*
the cheap mod would have to be 512k *not many out there* and even if the cheap mod was 512k if you know what your doing your sure as hell can recover.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: wtaag on August 27, 2003, 03:34:00 AM
Im just looking for the easiest and fastest way to recover this flash.  Since I do not have a cheapmod programmer... I can not just reprogram the chip.  Also... Hotswaping will be a pain since my xbox install is a pinheader and the cheapmod has wires.  Any ideas?
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: chinmi on August 27, 2003, 06:48:00 AM
well, you can replace the cheap-mod wth another cheap-mod. you're an installer right ?? so, you must have a couple of cheap-mod laying around...
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Xeero on August 27, 2003, 07:06:00 AM
QUOTE (wtaag @ Aug 27 2003, 07:34 AM)
Im just looking for the easiest and fastest way to recover this flash.  Since I do not have a cheapmod programmer... I can not just reprogram the chip.  Also... Hotswaping will be a pain since my xbox install is a pinheader and the cheapmod has wires.  Any ideas?

What we're talking about in this thread (I forget if I'd mentioned it here) is "tricking" the X2Lite into making the entire 1024KB available instead of just 512K at a time.  In your case, making the entire 1024K available will not help if the flash was bad.

You could either install an X2.x or Chameleon onto the pinheader, or use a female pin header socket to which you can solder the cheapmod's wires.
Title: Fix For 4978 Bios And X2lite Chips
Post by: Pherf on August 30, 2003, 11:30:00 PM
I just got my X2.2lite+ and flashed with 4978, needless to say I got the same problems as everyone else. So I flashed to 4977 with Flash X.  It took over an hour for the progress indicater to finish.  Is this normal?!   Then when I boot with the mod enabled it beeps and shuts down.  Was it a bad flash?  Will an external programmer allow me to reflash after a bad flash?