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Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 09:23:00 AM
Hi.  I am the author of The Beginner's Guide to Xbox Modification found in the tutorials section of this site and many others.  I need some help now.  

I have several new games that won't work.  I've read all about the media check of games signed after 2/03, and I've flashed the new Xecutor 4976.02 BIOS onto a buddy's X2lite.  Before I did that, the games would begin to launch and then immediately reset.  A tell-tale sign of media check failure.  This was happening on games like Dead to Rights, The Hulk, X2: Wolverine's Revenge, and Enter the Matrix.  After I wrote the new BIOS in, all of these games now sort of just freeze up after launch in various places.  For instance, The Hulk freezes at the Loading... screen.

I am launching these games from the Evox games menu; in other words, they're loaded onto a big 120gig.  Most of them are loaded with XBCopy, some with Px HDloader.  Does anyone think it might be necessary to reload them?  Will I have to HexEdit the games?  It would be nice if this could be a fixed problem once and for all, as the new BIOS claims it to be.  Has anyone else gotten one of the above-mentioned games to work vis-a-vis hard drive without patching it?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you,
Mystagogue
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: trackfive on June 11, 2003, 09:42:00 AM
That's really strange...I'm running the 4976.02 bios and I haven't had a single problem running the Hulk or Dead to Rights (nor do my friends) directly off the hard drive under EvoX...Enter the Matrix is different...because of the long file names...but the other two work no problems. Maybe your problem lies somwhere else?
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: madthumbs on June 11, 2003, 12:11:00 PM
Enter The Matrix is working for me along with those others, but the files with the long names didn't make it to the HD.... they still play though. I think I'm missing captions or in game tips for the Matrix though.

Could it be possible that they can be transferred with shorter names, then converted back... or converted to a dos compatable name? I've seen work arounds for the Matrix btw... didn't use it though.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xeero on June 11, 2003, 12:38:00 PM
Although ETM does have problems with long filenames, it will not prevent the game from booting.

Your problem is that you have EvoX's IGR enabled.  Disable the IGR setting under MISC in EvoX's settings.  You'll eliminate the bug, and you'll still be able to use IGR from games.

We appreciate that you've contributed a tutorial, but this has been addressed AD NAUSEAM - PLEASE do a search in the future.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 01:34:00 PM
I searched this forum and others ad nauseam and have found almost little mention of this problem or its solution.  Ironically, I have seen more posts about how any given topic has already been addressed than posts that are actually of any help.  Regardless, thanks for the update.  I will look into patching the games.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xeero on June 11, 2003, 01:38:00 PM
QUOTE (emyst56 @ Jun 11 2003, 05:34 PM)
I searched this forum and others ad nauseam and have found almost little mention of this problem or its solution.  Ironically, I have seen more posts about how any given topic has already been addressed than posts that are actually of any help.  Regardless, thanks for the update.  I will look into patching the games.

If you found little mention of EvoX's buggy IGR, you are either:
a) blind; or
2) checking the wrong forum.

Disabling IGR requires no patching of the game.  Although both procedures may be required, they are separate.

UPDATE:  I just searched the forums for "IGR" and found a solid 69 pages of results.  That's "little mention" right?  Results here.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 02:20:00 PM
Don't have a hissy-fit.  IGR has nothing to do with what I am trying to solve.  I already have IGR disabled.  The bug I was troubleshooting lied in the long file names.  Also, searching for the solution to a problem you already know a solution to is easy.  Of course you're going to find all kinds of discussion on a bug once you know what the bug is!  Your two options in your response are telling of your troubleshooting skills: either I'm blind or I was searching the wrong forum...  Hehe, it's okay, though.  I don't need your reassurance.  Ignorance and pretentiousness just bug me.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: yowsr on June 11, 2003, 08:23:00 PM
I'm assuming that this is the case with Moto GP2 as well? When I tried to copy using Hddloader or XCommander neither would recognize the disc, but it played just fine from the disc.

Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xustu on June 11, 2003, 09:24:00 PM
Not sure about the ignorance...    
   
Your bug may have "lay" (http://dictionary.re...om/search?q=lay  3rd entry)  but I'm pretty sure it could not have "lied" unless it was being dishonest to you.

Just having fun. Cheers.
xustu
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 09:53:00 PM
Touché...  

Anyone heard any word on a possible implementation of NTFS or an NTFS-like filing system for the box?  (Besides the win95 style of indirection being implemented by Avalaunch).  If that question has already been answered, just ignore this post and please forgive the lack of effort I have put into finding an answer.

Thanks
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xeero on June 11, 2003, 09:59:00 PM
QUOTE (emyst56 @ Jun 11 2003, 06:20 PM)
Don't have a hissy-fit.  IGR has nothing to do with what I am trying to solve.  I already have IGR disabled.  The bug I was troubleshooting lied in the long file names.  Also, searching for the solution to a problem you already know a solution to is easy.  Of course you're going to find all kinds of discussion on a bug once you know what the bug is!  Your two options in your response are telling of your troubleshooting skills: either I'm blind or I was searching the wrong forum...  Hehe, it's okay, though.  I don't need your reassurance.  Ignorance and pretentiousness just bug me.

Only Enter the Matrix has a long filename issue; the other games are fine.  I'm sorry your ignorance bugs you.  That must be a tough cross to bear.

Double-check your IGR settings.  My gut tells me that you disabled ONE IGR setting, but not the right one.  The IGR under MISC is the buggy one.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: bb07 on June 11, 2003, 10:00:00 PM
I quess M$ figured out a way to slow you guys down
But hopefuly ,not stop
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xustu on June 11, 2003, 10:13:00 PM
huh.gif   ???  Slow who down?   M$ has nothing to do with one person's copying problems.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: bb07 on June 11, 2003, 10:16:00 PM
i mean ,making the filename longer so you can't really
back it up on the Hd
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 10:27:00 PM
Hehe...   I would love to meet a few of you in real life.  You guys crack me up.  But just to be fair, I'm not a moron.  I know how to disable IGR and it's disabled.  Also, you can stop posting your two cents on the issue because IT'S FIXED!  It was long file names.  That's it.  Ben Jeremy was the only one that had any valuable insight; thanks Ben.  The rest of you need to grow up.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: bb07 on June 11, 2003, 10:35:00 PM
so emyst56 can you teach me
how to connect my toaster to my xbox
i just wanted some toast in the morning
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: emyst56 on June 11, 2003, 10:43:00 PM
I've read the 8 million threads.  So let's move on...  The questions still remain: has anyone heard of any NTFS-like file system for the xbox to replace FATX?  Has anoyne explored the possibility of mounting ISOs on the hard drive as a DVD drive?  (I'm not sure that would work, but it might)...  In other words, has anyone heard of permanent solutions on the horizon that will fix this problem now and in the future?  You all are working hard on your insult skills, how admirable.  But do any of you have programming skills?  I'm tempted to explore some of these possiblities myself and it would be helpful to know if anyone else has and/or is interested.  Stop mooching and bickering and give something back.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: Xustu on June 11, 2003, 10:49:00 PM
dry.gif  I'm such a loser.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: bb07 on June 11, 2003, 10:54:00 PM
tongue.gif BBQ is my favorite biggrin.gif
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: madthumbs on June 13, 2003, 08:01:00 AM
I have IGR enabled in Evox using the executor 2 bios. I may get a freeze up one in a great while... but I love it. Anyway, no interference with ETM.
Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: rahula on June 20, 2003, 08:10:00 PM
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Title: New Games Still Don't Work With 4976.02
Post by: dcnigma on June 22, 2003, 04:03:00 PM
funny i have the same copy of matrix of my friend my wont work when igr is turn on but on his xbox it works with igr dont know why, so say it because of the pal60 is turned on but i found it was just a bad copy.
and had no problem with the long names i checkt al the dir, of the cd but nothing changed all files where there.