Post by: jstjohnz on June 18, 2003, 03:42:00 PM
Maybe for a single user, but I wouldn't count on it.
-jim-
Post by: chief on June 18, 2003, 04:04:00 PM
Post by: fishy on June 18, 2003, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: Driver on June 18, 2003, 05:37:00 PM
Post by: sinister on June 19, 2003, 02:40:00 PM
Post by: nancy_kerrigan on June 19, 2003, 04:42:00 PM
keep in mind that when streaming a divx movie it's only transferring probably less than 1mb/sec.
Post by: spunky on June 23, 2003, 12:02:00 PM
cheers
spunky
Post by: X-ace on June 24, 2003, 03:47:00 AM
Now, as contrary point, the speed gains you may get for other purposes, may be worth getting the "g" version.
And; when moving files to and from the xbox, connect via cable. Wireless is cool, but wireline is fast.
Post by: X-ace on June 24, 2003, 03:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (spunky @ Jun 23 2003, 08:02 PM) |
| is it possible to stream from a wireless connected pc to an xbox which is connected to the wireless router using a straight thru cable or does the xbox have to have an ethernet bridge ? cheers spunky |
Not exactly sure what you're asking, but you put the router relatively close tothe xbox, and you lay a regular ethernet cable over there. No other boxes necessary. (And cable us cheap. In fact, I somehow always end up with 2 or 3 extra.)
Post by: X-ace on June 24, 2003, 03:50:00 AM
(XS was so slow at a point that I may have hit submit twice)
Post by: cardboardbox on June 24, 2003, 11:08:00 AM
How are you setting up your xbox to use your wireless network?
Post by: spunky on June 24, 2003, 01:02:00 PM
The PC has a usb adapter from linksys.
I checked the ip address for the xbox which i put in flashfxp but no connection.
The router is recognising the connection and so is mediaplayer because the shared video folder comes up but when you try to access it mediaplayer freezes.
I have a hunch its the router software but im not sure what settings may cause the problem.
Any ideas
Cheers
Spunky
Post by: X-ace on June 24, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (cardboardbox @ Jun 24 2003, 07:08 PM) |
| I checked the tutorials and didnt see this... How are you setting up your xbox to use your wireless network? |
The tutorial you use is the same as setting up network for the xbox to do anything.
Now use a wireles router instead and you are done. (need cable connection to the xbox)
Post by: X-ace on June 24, 2003, 02:16:00 PM
what's your network setup in xbmp?
Post by: trob on June 24, 2003, 08:27:00 PM
Post by: teewurstmann on June 25, 2003, 01:30:00 PM
TWM.
Post by: X-ace on June 25, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (trob @ Jun 25 2003, 04:27 AM) |
| I posted a new product coming out soon. Its a ethernet wifi adapter that will plug into the xbox and enable it to work on a wifi lan. I will bump the post. |
Wonder what new product this could be there are already plenty of hubs/bridges that let you hook a device to a wifi network either through the Ethernet or usb port. here is a link to one:
http://www.dlink.com...reless/dwl810 /
(they even market the ability to use it for your xbox)
But provided your other nodes are wireless ready, you'll save a few bucks by just placing your wireless router next to your xbox and using one of the wire connections to tap into the xbox.
Post by: jonnymace on July 07, 2003, 04:21:00 AM
a belkin wireless PCI for my PC
a belkin wireless laptop card
All run on the G network...
I use my laptop to access broadband and xbox to stream movies with relax. Still trying to work out shoutcast
The movies run very smoothly no probs there but if playing AVI(not divx uncompressed) its slow
Also you must have the Pc and xbox away from thick walls and fridges...
I have solved the problem and bought 120GB HD so dump all the media onto the Xbox and FTP new media when ever...
Post by: mkirk on July 28, 2003, 11:46:00 AM
I have an mpeg2 card as well as a hacked (networked) Tivo. I've collected a number of tv streams which I'd love to expose to my xbox for streaming to my entertainment center. The problem -- my captures are all encoded at 5800kbps (5.8mbps). Streaming those wirelessly *sounds* good -- you have 11mbps, right? Wrong. I've set up and tweaked my system to get max performance. Even still, you only get a percentage of the available 11mbps and in my tests I could never get high enough bandwidth to stream my sources. Users with Divx encodes have reported lots of success because of the high compression and low bitrate of divx (mp4) recordings. Using 802.11b is not viable (hard-wired it worked fine). XBMP says as much on their site FAQ.
Today I'm going to purchase an 802.11g AP and bridge to see if that works (it's rated at 54mbps). I'll report back to let you all know.
Does anyone know what the difference between Ad Hoc vs. Infrastructure mode in terms of actual performance? Which is faster? For a simple network, does it matter which you use (do you lose something)?
Post by: oneeyedelf on July 28, 2003, 12:15:00 PM
ADHoc vs Infastructure: *I think this is correct info, but dont hold me to it* I currently use infastructure but am thinking about buying a 802.11b bridge. The way I get it is that infastructure uses say a router as a gateway, meaning between two wireless devices it goes to the router then off the router too the other device, But is good cause the two devices dont need to see eachother. ADHoc means that the devices will go from one straight to the other, and seeing how my xbox is closer to my pc, I think that if I buy a bridge this is the way I will go because I bet it will be faster, cause they are closer. Note all devices in ADHoc Mode need to be able to see eachother.
Wireless is sexy, I like it alot, and thats the reason I am considering buying a bridge cause xbmp kicks mucho butt.
Oh anyone know of a solution like relax&xbmp for just windows, I wanna watch movies on my laptop as well, note videolan wont work as this needs to be a win2k enviroment, and videolan is just not good like relax&xbmp
Edit: anyone know a cheap cheap price for an wireless bridge, 802.11b, dont mind doing a rebate...
Post by: lalani on July 29, 2003, 05:42:00 PM
How did your tests go with the 802.11g network? I'm curious to see if it can eliminate the skipping on streaming full bitrate dvds. Please let us know how it worked for you.
Post by: mkirk on July 30, 2003, 04:40:00 AM
802.11g worked quite well in my tests last night. Of course this was with a pristine network set up and the wireless AP and bridge 3 feet apart. I streamed a 700MB source (30 min program) that was encoded at 5,800kbps (5.8mbps) and did not have a single stutter. I should also mention I used the faster XBMPS protocal (ccxstream).
My issues now are quality. The codec used to render these files is terrible. On high motion scenes the artifacting is noticable and quite distracting. I'm not sure which codec is being used but the transition method looks like blinds opening and shutting (maybe that means something to others). I've read a bit here and some have said 2.3 has better video quality (not sure if that counts for mpegs).
Also- I couldn't open any of the larger files (2gb+) for some reason. I think it's a known issue but I thought that was just a problem with ISO's not streams.
Post by: pakostevens on July 30, 2003, 09:32:00 PM
I have about the same set up as you. I have a G bridge in the living room connected to a hub going to my tivo/xbox/ps2 and a linksys a/g accesspoint in my officeroom connected to a router with 3 pc's on it and my cable modem. I have my cache at 8192 and precache at 100%. The xbox is 3 rooms away from the ap i'd say its about 15-25 feet away, with 2 walls between them. I had some pretty good luck playing movies but still have some studdering. All I play are svcd's mostly cause thats like 90% of the flicks that i got.
Anyways it would be helpfull if others posted their wireless setups and what kind of results they are getting.
Post by: pakostevens on August 01, 2003, 10:11:00 AM
Post by: erexx on August 01, 2003, 03:00:00 PM
Post by: GT! on August 01, 2003, 03:33:00 PM
| QUOTE (tezmo @ Jun 24 2003, 03:38 PM) |
| do some sums - the highest bitrate you might possibly encounter would probably be a 100 minute movie split over 2cds - thats 1400megs/100mins = 14megs/minute = 0.233megs/second = 238.9kbytes/sec = 244667bytes/sec = 1957341bits/sec = 1911kbits/sec = 1.86 mbits/sec excuse if theres a little bad arithmetic in there - the point remains that you need less than 1/5 of the optimum 802.11b bandwidth (which should be entirely possible) to achieve the desired results  |
Actually, the fastest throughput you will get with 802.11b is about 6Mbps. You will never come close to the 11Mbps theoretical speed. http://wireless.ziff...,1123513,00.asp
-GT
Post by: erexx on August 04, 2003, 10:35:00 AM
under Settings : Screen
There is are two post processing filters that can be turned on
Post processing one
and
Post processing two
In XBMP 2.4, from what I have observed and I could be wrong, they are not turned on by default.
see if that helps the render quality...
Can never re-encode to a higher quality...
The source is as good as it gets.
A re-encode would probably only lower the quality...
Is there such a thing as a lossless codec?
Only Divx and Xvid come close....
Post by: mkirk on August 04, 2003, 08:03:00 PM
802.11g is NOT a panacea. I moved the bridge down to my entertainment center next to my receiver on top of my TV and can't get better than 6mbps. What the F!? I'm only 30 feet max away through the floor and a wall or two. Old house -- thin walls. This is ridiculous. Is it possible my receiver or TV are interfering? I turned off my 802.11b and tried to also ad hoc instead of infrastructure but still no luck. This is a joke. Any suggestions all - I'm at the end of my rope...