Post by: KingViper on February 20, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
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Post by: lookformeb on February 20, 2004, 10:35:00 AM
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Revised my opinion after doing more research and taking personal interest.
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I do now!
Post by: Keltik on February 20, 2004, 10:49:00 AM
Maybe people could comment after voting (or direct me and others considering it to a thread / link with details)
Post by: KingViper on February 20, 2004, 10:53:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-s...showtopic=98909
KingViper
Post by: xbonz00889 on February 20, 2004, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: Keltik on February 20, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: Romps on February 20, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
so if anyone here is in uk and got a knackered m0b0 or some spare chips then let me have em please
Post by: KingViper on February 20, 2004, 03:06:00 PM
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PS Romps, PM me, we might be able to work something out.
Post by: lordvader129 on February 20, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
1: N64 EMU
2: MAME
3: Linux
and for those fo you who say "thats why they make PCs" i prefer to play games on a console with a nice controller in my hands on my 30 inch tv than on my PC running windows XP (LAG) with a keyboard on a 17 inch monitor, and anyon ehear of multiplay games? kinda hard to work with only one keyboard
anyway, lik emost things, its amatter of opinion, if you want the mod and think you will find it useful, by all means upgrade the RAM, if you see no point to it, well no ones forcing you to do it, so whats the big deal?
Post by: modinside on February 21, 2004, 07:10:00 PM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 21, 2004, 11:27:00 PM
Post by: robdav99 on February 22, 2004, 08:29:00 AM
Post by: exstasy on February 22, 2004, 10:16:00 AM
Post by: KingViper on February 22, 2004, 10:16:00 AM
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Post by: KingViper on February 23, 2004, 05:19:00 PM
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Post by: deacon187 on February 25, 2004, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: KingViper on February 26, 2004, 05:13:00 AM
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Post by: Cookiesrus on February 27, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
I have recently put in the 4 extra samsung chips, although there was a short first time i booted, i fixed this and booted again.
This time my machine boots up straight into xdk launcher, and when i use media player or unleashx, each says i have only 64mb of ram!
This is really doing my head in as i cant think of why it would do this, i know my bios is supposed to be supported (TATX DEBUG DUAL) and obviously there isnt a short or a would get the bios error.
Here is what im running,
TSOP flashed with TATX Debug Dual, this worked prior to ram upgrade, and still works fine now.
V1.0 Mobo
I know the drives dont make a difference but i have a western digital 80gig HD Locked and a samsung dvd rom.
I got the chips from a spare mobo i had, they worked fine before removal.
To remove them i used solder braid and a 30 watt soldering iron, i followed the Video Tut by KingViper. I DID THIS VERY CAREFULLY.
On xboxhacker.net forums, they say they used a complex debug bios to use the extra ram. I was told on these forums that the complex bios wouldnt work and that i should reflash to TATX.
Any upgraders come accross this problem?
But hey at least i can still use this sucker in the mean time!
Post by: KingViper on February 27, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: catdog2 on February 29, 2004, 02:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (importplayer @ Feb 27 2004, 10:26 PM) |
| I am thinking of getting a 128 RAM upgrade mainly for MAME. Does anyone have any good thing to say about MAME and a 128 RAM Xbox? |
The extra RAM helps MAME load the games, so more of them work. Just be aware that some games are still limited by the processor speed, and although they will now load, they run very slowly/jolty.
Dont forget to try other emulators which offer virtual memory - if the particular games you want to play will run on them you wont need to upgrade the RAM!
I'm not trying to discourage doing the upgrade, but it is a lot of effort with little reward (depending on what you do with you xbox of course)
Post by: ghostavel on February 29, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
Post by: MThaG on March 08, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: Romps on March 08, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
Im just wondering what bios i should put on my xbox anyone got any idea what bios will boot with the 128mb or will they all boot with it ?
Thx
Romps
Post by: Eventide on March 08, 2004, 03:39:00 PM
Post by: The LukeMan on March 10, 2004, 03:02:00 PM
I dont see the point the xbox games are meant to be run on the ram you have.I would not notice any difference at all. MY xbox runs fast enough !
Post by: terse_tinkler on March 10, 2004, 09:35:00 PM
Samsung. They ship FAST and the chips run about $8.50 each.
Order Here
The part number is the same(except date code, later MFG), but the chips arrived and work quite well. The QC50000 is just a mis-typed QC50, so dont worry.
Post by: A.Z.BEST on March 11, 2004, 12:55:00 AM
Post by: The LukeMan on March 11, 2004, 04:12:00 AM
I have used linux with 64 mb of ram and it sucked so this new additional ram would be great for linux users
Post by: WeatherB on March 14, 2004, 12:38:00 PM
Anyone interested in purchasing the memory upgrade I ordered from Viper (when it arrives)? I no longer need it. I will also include a 5th chip (from my previous attempt).
Post by: eyric101 on March 15, 2004, 05:01:00 AM
Post by: NjoY on March 22, 2004, 06:45:00 AM
I don't like the look of that tutorial!! It's the "Drowning the chip in solder" pic that puts me off!!I'd try it with a hot air blower but drowning the chip in solder goes against my logic to soldering. I just couldn't do that!!
Brings back painfull memories of "ps2 expert install" shorts!! (and that was just 2 pins! or 3 depending on how bad my hands shook hehe)
If there was a big gain to game play, i'd get a blower and try this. Until there is... i'll leave it to the true experts!!
Post by: KingViper on March 22, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
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Post by: A@ron on March 22, 2004, 06:15:00 PM
Install Video
Removal Video
these are by KingViper and compressed, mac users use VLC from videolan.org to play them, windows users can just use windows MP.
A@ron
Post by: spillage on March 23, 2004, 01:58:00 PM
Post by: WeatherB on March 25, 2004, 06:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (spillage @ Mar 23 2004, 05:58 PM) |
| You are supposed to use solder paste and a special heat gun for SMD work like RAM but individual soldering can work. I guess heat would also be something to consider. I have read that the extra RAM is good for XBMC. In what way? Thanks |
I think everyone is over-estimating the fragility of these chips...
On my first memory upgrade attempt, I used a 45watt soldering iron to remove and install the RAM chips. Even after removing and installing them three times, nothing was damaged.
The RAM upgrade makes everything run smoother; The extra memory allows you to run XBMC/XBMP at a higher resolution (720p, 1080i) and still maintain the smoothness of the video playback.
Post by: gamarsedge on March 25, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
Post by: A@ron on March 26, 2004, 11:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (spillage @ Mar 23 2004, 05:58 PM) |
| You are supposed to use solder paste and a special heat gun for SMD work like RAM but individual soldering can work. |
Special heat gun, you mean a Hot Air SMT Reworking station... and I've got one which I use for upgrades. Waste of money? Sure in the same respect a gaming system of any type is a waste of money. The extra RAM is not needed but it sure is nice to have in the same respect that none of us really NEED our gaming systems but they sure are nice to have.
A@ron
Post by: spillage on March 26, 2004, 02:03:00 PM
Post by: mastercheef on March 27, 2004, 03:37:00 PM
Post by: lookformeb on April 15, 2004, 09:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (M²ThaG @ Mar 8 2004, 05:48 PM) |
| nope seems to fuk up the box |
Late comment, but you might want to learn how to solder...
Post by: {{DEMON}} on April 16, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
I contacted FRIENDTECH
Cost me 12.90 to ship them my board.
I payed a money order in the box with my MO
It was for 91.40
That covered the ram, install and return shipping (2 day shipping)
I sent it out at 3pm on tuesday. (im in NY they are in CA)
It got there around 10am wed.
They opened the package, tested, then installed the ram, then tested again. Ram upgrade was a success.
They shipped back that day.
I received my upgradd MB + i got a Composite/svideo cable with built in digital out. and they added a heatsinc to my MCPX and i got SKINZ for my box (though im not gonna use them)
Heres the best part.. I paid for 2 day shipping.. I got it back in 1 day.
SO i shipped tuesday at around 3pm and it was back at my door (MR UPS GUY) and i signed for it around 11am or so Thursday. IT's now Friday mornign and im typing this.
Works great so far.
And they gave me 90 days warranty for RAM ONLY. If i fuck my Board up another way it's my fault.. but if the ram drops below 128 meg in 90 days they will fix it for FRee w/ free shipping.
{DEMON}
Post by: Andy Holloway on April 17, 2004, 02:54:00 AM
cant wait, i hope i can get it working
thanks again KingViper
Post by: Perplexer on April 24, 2004, 05:28:00 AM
)I had upgraded my "old" mobo to 128MB RAM before getting the Dream-X, and honestly, the 64MB -> 128MB RAM seems to make a bigger difference than 733MHz -> 1.4GHz.
Post by: gamarsedge on May 19, 2004, 04:53:00 PM
Post by: silentsnake on May 24, 2004, 03:00:00 PM
Post by: Apatheia Incarantus on May 24, 2004, 03:18:00 PM
a new processor, and new ram is only usefull if you are going to run linux. that's it.
Post by: A@ron on May 24, 2004, 04:28:00 PM
In addition, other homebrew software like XBMC DOES benefit from the additional RAM. How about next time you stop spreading FUD.A@ron
Edit: haha the guy above me just wrote me a PM telling me to Fu*k Off. Go figure people don't like hearing they are wrong. Ben Franklin said: Better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, then to open it and remove all doubt.
Post by: Perplexer on May 25, 2004, 02:34:00 AM
Lots of reasons to upgrade to 128MB.
Post by: yigga on May 25, 2004, 02:45:00 AM
Post by: KingViper on May 25, 2004, 04:34:00 PM
1. If a game is not made for 128mb of ram, it won't use it. THATS IT. It will not mess up your game play, and you can always use the delimit patch, which on some games helps considerably. (Very action packed scenes in GTA3\Vice City)
2. You can play on live with the 128mb ram. Why? Because you must be using an original bios with live, which means an original cd, which means that neither the game will be screwed up (cuz of the delimit patch) and your bios will not utilize the other 64mb (cuz you're using an original bios)
3. You can install ram on any version motherboard exept obviously V1.6. (I'm pretty sure you can't piggyback the ram on a V1.6, cuz that would make the module look like 32mb ram instead of 16mb, and I dont think the MCPX is programed to see 32mb increments. Some people claim memory won't upgrade on a V1.4 and V1.5. I can personally say that YES THEY CAN.
4. XBMC, Surreal64, Linux, MAME. These are a few of the programs that use the extra ram. Probably every single emulator for the xbox uses the extra ram, these are the most famed ones.
5. Installing memory is NOT easy. Even if you have very good soldering skills there are still many things that can go wrong. I'm not saying don't try it, but if you have any doubt get one of the memory installers on the scene to do it. If you don't know who they are, then you haven't researched ram enough to know that you even want to upgrade.
These are a few of the things that drive me nuts. So many people make claims about memory upgrades that are untrue. Here are some facts to set people straight.
KingViper
Post by: death_driver_911 on June 01, 2004, 08:43:00 AM
EDIT: I use linux and run a lot of emulators
Post by: Aron Parsons on June 01, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: lookformeb on June 01, 2004, 10:37:00 AM
Merging.
Post by: Chazzz on August 21, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
Post by: FallsInc on August 21, 2004, 10:19:00 AM
Post by: A.Z.BEST on August 21, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (Chazzz @ Aug 21 2004, 01:09 PM) |
| A lot of people are saying they won't upgrade because it's to expensive and not really worth it, but I look at xbox modding as a hobby. I enjoy making my xbox better even if it doesn't really need it. I think I'm going to do it once I get my executer 3 and a better hard drive, and personally I would never let someone else touch my xbox and perform a mod for me. I have too much pride |
Yeah, modding the Xbox it's only fun, and it may cause pride of having one of the best boxes that people ever seen
. Isn't?Check my dirty, proudfull signature
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Post by: bleugh on September 07, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
I can offer a very quick turn around for your motherboard, or sell you a ready upgraded motherboard!.
and, i'm currently the cheapest in Europe, and THE ONLY modder in the UK
Post by: namek0 on September 22, 2004, 01:11:00 PM
thx for keeping those videos up. I'm at work (a school computer lab) and I d/l them in a matter of seconds at 2.4 megs/sec, woohoo
Post by: Camstheman on September 22, 2004, 06:34:00 PM
Post by: A@ron on September 22, 2004, 07:26:00 PM
Post by: Modiller on October 08, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
hehe look4porn but other then that its staying at 64mb
Post by: kasserole on October 11, 2004, 08:30:00 PM
Post by: bleugh on October 12, 2004, 03:16:00 AM
128 meg allows you to load about 1/3 more mame roms quickly,
and allows you to play n64 stuff excellently
also makes Linux with the KDE desktop fly - to the point where the xbox is a valid linux computer!
Post by: RocafellaSqualie on October 12, 2004, 05:17:00 AM
But as always, my friends never listen to what I say
Post by: bleugh on October 12, 2004, 08:05:00 AM
Post by: bleugh on October 12, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (bradthefattest @ Oct 12 2004, 05:07 PM) |
| does installing the extra 64megabytes of ram mess up many xbox games? i do run MAME, and N64 games, and watch lots of stuff using XBMC, but also i play lots of xbox games, would it mess those xbox games up? |
won't screw up anything
Post by: ajouvenat on October 12, 2004, 11:20:00 PM
Post by: Modiller on October 12, 2004, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: bleugh on October 13, 2004, 12:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (Modiller @ Oct 13 2004, 06:44 AM) |
| I've heard a lot of xbox's mess up due to people attempting to do the ram upgrade. |
I think you'll find that's
"i've heared a lot of people mess their xboxes up due to their inability to do the ram upgrade"
this aint an upgrade for heavy handed types
Post by: a_madman on October 14, 2004, 08:23:00 PM
We attempted a ram upgrade recently and botched it royally. I really does not seem that difficult, now that we have watched kingviper's vids again, and see what it actually takes.
The only end problem we have, now that we've removed our botched memory chips, is that my roommate, while pulling off the last chip, removed a pad from the mobo. Is this going to be a problem if there's no memory even in that slot? I have tried to boot the box, but it's fraggin. It has many other modifications, however, so I'm hoping it's something else.
Oh, and if anyone's looking to buy ram, we got ours off broken mobo's from ebay for $15. Adds the process of removing the ram first, but it's not that difficult to remove if you're patient, which I think is the most important part of upgrading your memory.
Post by: Kryms3n on October 14, 2004, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: Modiller on October 15, 2004, 02:55:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| I think you'll find that's "i've heared a lot of people mess their xboxes up due to their inability to do the ram upgrade" this aint an upgrade for heavy handed types |
I know its not a easy thing to do, and you hear horror stories every once in while and for the pole obviously theres going to be a lot of no, but i want to get it done if theres anyway to make your xbox "better" then other xbox's people will do it, but how many of these people will go have the ram upgrade done I bet less then 5%.
Post by: ..[[ModBoxMaster]].. on November 02, 2004, 08:24:00 PM
Post by: Shakey_Jake33 on November 03, 2004, 01:48:00 AM
Unfortunately there doesn't really seem to be much in the way of reputable places in the UK to get the upgrade done =/
Post by: midiemulation on November 03, 2004, 05:44:00 AM
Post by: insanim8er on November 03, 2004, 06:28:00 AM
Ya, you only did it 'cause I helped :-p
lol...
My upgrade didn't go as well as his... My xbox boots up fine, but it doesn't recognize the extra ram installed..
What Bios should I use?
I have a 1.3 Tsop box
Post by: bleugh on November 09, 2004, 06:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (Shakey_Jake33 @ Nov 3 2004, 10:51 AM) |
| Given I mainly use my XBox for emulation, I would definately upgrade by XBox to 128Meg in a heartbeat if I could. Unfortunately there doesn't really seem to be much in the way of reputable places in the UK to get the upgrade done =/ |
I'm reputable, check out my feedback on ebay!
i'm in south wales too, have done 11 boards now with brand new chips! (12 incl my own)
Post by: bleugh on November 09, 2004, 06:44:00 AM
| QUOTE (Gumboot @ Nov 3 2004, 11:13 AM) |
| Does anyone know where to get these chips in Australia |
i'm happy to ship chips to OZ,
Post by: thekid1000 on November 09, 2004, 07:47:00 PM
-Mike
Post by: Gumboot on November 10, 2004, 01:23:00 AM
Post by: bleugh on November 10, 2004, 05:55:00 AM
Post by: No.1 G on November 26, 2004, 04:48:00 PM
Thanks
Post by: BRD on November 26, 2004, 05:41:00 PM
I installed Linux, but never ever use it, cause I have no reason to.
I ran RAM Delimiter on my game XBE files, and some seem to load significantly faster, like Halo.
MAMEoX loads the games faster, but doesn't run them faster.
I'm not sure if Surreal even uses it, as I see no improvement.
But hey, I still have it. It's cool to have. If anyone could please tell me: What else could I do with it?
Post by: Shinogi on November 28, 2004, 05:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (XBoxWannaBModda @ Nov 28 2004, 08:36 AM) |
| Is it possible to do a RAM upgrade on a 1.6b? didn't they change the RAM Chips? Just trying to make sure cause i'm not sure if i want to buy new if i can't mod a new one like i could an older version. |
Get an older board if you want this upgrade. 1.6's don't have the spare RAM spaces for you to fit your new RAM. 1.0-1.5's have 2 extra RAM slots which are spare.
Post by: Avalaunchz on December 05, 2004, 03:13:00 PM
Post by: Oscar_the_Grouch on December 05, 2004, 03:26:00 PM
Post by: Oscar_the_Grouch on December 05, 2004, 04:16:00 PM
Post by: armyofdarkness on December 07, 2004, 12:27:00 PM
the greatest of all reasons: THE XBOX 2 IS COMING....Conclusion it is a waste of money and time.
Post by: armyofdarkness on December 07, 2004, 12:30:00 PM
the greatest of all reasons: THE XBOX 2 IS COMING....Conclusion it is a waste of money and time.
Post by: bleugh on December 14, 2004, 02:14:00 AM
yes, it costs a lot for someones skill, time and effort, BUT, you get a few benefits
1 - blagging rights
2 - PERFECT mame emulation on most roms
3 - excellent Linux performance,
where else can you buy a full linux computer for £100
Post by: RCP__90 on December 18, 2004, 10:30:00 PM
http://www.public.ia...box/removal.avi
http://www.public.ia...box/install.avi
Post by: RCP__90 on December 18, 2004, 10:39:00 PM
I haven't seen the schematic for the xbox mobo but for versions 1.0-1.5 how many spaces are there for ram? If there's more than one, why not add two 128 MB ram chips?
Post by: Paronga on December 18, 2004, 11:03:00 PM
Post by: tutyet on December 20, 2004, 01:26:00 AM
| QUOTE (Romps @ Feb 20 2004, 11:16 PM) |
| I would love to put another 64mb in mine but cant find the chips cheap enough anywhere. so if anyone here is in uk and got a knackered m0b0 or some spare chips then let me have em please |
yes, i know what you mean for 64mb of ram in uk poeple want £30! fuck that!
so i just took it out of a faulty mobo this custener sent me and i bought it off him for a 10er and just used the ram! piece of cake!
Post by: FallsInc on December 20, 2004, 02:25:00 AM
Post by: Astrogoth on December 24, 2004, 11:19:00 PM