Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 09:13:00 AM
would it be technically possible to design a bios with integrated eeprom data?
so instead of the bios reading out the eeprom it reads the data from itself?
i know 0 about the xbox tech stuff, i'm only good with a soldering iron
so hence te question.ps: no tips about eeprom flashing with patched cromwell or debug bios cause this is my 3rd time my eeprom goes bad and this time i'm just not able to boot anyting...
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 09:28:00 AM
i really don't wanna bug my friend to desolder his eeprom and do a hot swap
so you're talking desolder eeprom and flash it or what?
Post by: Xeero on February 17, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
Post by: Xeero on February 17, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
Post by: Morglum on February 17, 2004, 09:42:00 AM
I know you said no tips about the cromwell thing, but it still works on all versions of xbox, just v1.4+ you dont get a display to the screen while it fixes it. If its not working for you then you cant be doing it right.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
| QUOTE (Xeero @ Feb 17 2004, 06:31 PM) |
| I dunno if what you're talking about would be possible, but if possible, you may want to consider keeping a debug BIOS on a bank of your modchip. Debug BIOSes are able to boot with a hosed EEPROM, so that frees you up to repair it through a flash. |
as i said, this is the third time a have this problem and this time it just won't work.
i tried debug and the patched cromwell but all it does is foag (we got frag so why not foag, flashing orange and green
).i've been on this baby for 3 days now with no luck, it's totally hosed...
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 09:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (Morglum @ Feb 17 2004, 06:42 PM) |
| ... I know you said no tips about the cromwell thing, but it still works on all versions of xbox, just v1.4+ you dont get a display to the screen while it fixes it. If its not working for you then you cant be doing it right. |
i know man, this is as strage to me as it is to you but it just won't do it....
it has worked be4 but now i'm not getting it to work...
still get
3x boot red/orange
3rd boot: solid orange.
after i press the eject button the dvd drive commes up (can hear it initialise) but it spins down about 2 sec later.
2 sec after that the drives commes back up (green nic led commes on) and i can eject as much as i need an it keeps FOAGin on me (so that's orange and green).
this is without the AV cable, with the composit cable i get green/red flashing in the end.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 10:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 06:52 PM) |
| ditto |
the strange thing is, i'm on a v1 xbox so it should work for me...
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 17, 2004, 10:27:00 AM
If you replace the first 48 bytes with a known working key from another eeprom dunp then the corrupt eeprom will work fine when loaded back into the xbox.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 17, 2004, 10:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (The iNSOMNIAc @ Feb 17 2004, 07:27 PM) |
| we need to know and find out WHY the eeprom is going corrupt. I have 2 boxes here and have dumped both eeproms with my programmer. The only corrupt part of the eeprom is the hdkey-cofounder (the first 48 bytes) the data is encrypted with the sha1. The rest of the eeprom is not encrypted and can be read back with a hex ed or eepmod v0.3 If you replace the first 48 bytes with a known working key from another eeprom dunp then the corrupt eeprom will work fine when loaded back into the xbox. |
get me one of your programmers!
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 17, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
I can dump and flash code to the eeprom no problems i just want to know why its only the first 48 bytes that gets corrupt. it has to be to do with the sha1 and the encryption but why is the box writing to the eeprom..!! At boot time it should read from the eeprom not write to it ?
Both corrupt boxes were playing ok then reset to play another game when they went corrupt. The only thing they both had in common was they were chipped via lpc bus. one was a xecuter 2.3 (1.4 box) and the other was a cheapmod (1.1 box)
Post by: Morglum on February 17, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 07:46 PM) | ||
hmm.. it just reboots the xbox 3 times.. works ok on 1.3 and below tho any pointer on what im doing wrong |
Theres no reason why it should FRAG. You need to download the patched cromwell and the eeprom patcher, it only takes 3 steps to do.
1) Download and then extract and put them into the same folder with your eeprom named eeprom.bin.
2) Then open a command prompt and move to that directory, and type "addEeprom cromwell-patched.bin eeprom.bin"
3) Then just flash cromwell-patched.bin onto your modchip and boot from it.
Thats all there is too it, if you have an xbox v1.0 - v1.3 you'll see some text to the screen saying the flash was successful, if you have a v1.4+ you wont see anything to the screen. Just wait a minute to be sure its finished flashing even though it wont take anything near that long, then turn the xbox off and reflash your modchip with whatever BIOS you use. Thats all there is too it.
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 17, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
I do not know if the USB version works as i only have the Multiprogrammer 3.5 Serial version
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 02:51:00 AM
i can get my hands on a 1.1 xbox this afternoon and i was thinking about hot swapping the eeprom.
i won't be desoldering his eeprom but i'll wire it to my motherboard (i removed my eeprom), boot my xbox with the 1.1 eeprom, disconnect the eeprom and replace it with mine and flash it with configmagic.
this sounds about right?
hdd is unlockled btw, so that shouldn't be a prob.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
maybe there was something wrong all along and that's why i was getting eeprom corruption... who will know...
Post by: iceuk on February 18, 2004, 07:33:00 AM
| QUOTE (Pandoriaantje @ Feb 18 2004, 12:51 PM) |
| i won't be desoldering his eeprom but i'll wire it to my motherboard (i removed my eeprom), boot my xbox with the 1.1 eeprom, disconnect the eeprom and replace it with mine and flash it with configmagic. |
let us know if it worked
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 07:39:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 18 2004, 04:33 PM) | ||
let us know if it worked |
see 2 posts above yours..
it didn't..
i would love to get my hand on one of those programmers but they are somewhat pricey..
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 07:40:00 AM
| QUOTE (Lugnut @ Feb 18 2004, 04:06 PM) |
| write protect your eeproms, put em on a switch! seems like this problem just came out of the woodwork, im starting to wonder if theres a software bug somewhere doing this. (besides the avalaunch problem i read something about last week) but i dont use avalaunch. |
well maybe if you could show me how... (or better, where?)
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 08:22:00 AM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 08:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (The iNSOMNIAc @ Feb 18 2004, 12:56 AM) |
| ICEUK thats the one.. quarter way down the page. the Elvis multi programmer v3.5. Also available from http://www.cardman.c...rogrammers.html for 45 quid + postage and directly available from the manufacturer http://www.adteknik....glish/order.htm for 55 euro + postage.. I do not know if the USB version works as i only have the Multiprogrammer 3.5 Serial version |
do you need special software to flash the eeprom?
i just mailed adteknik.se a them for a quotation and would like to know if i need special software to use it.
and how do you connect the eeprom to it?
edit* nevermind you already answered the first question...
| QUOTE |
| it the old faithfull Multi programmer v3.5 aka the Elvis programmer used in the sat world for reading and writing wafers and goldcards etc etc. With the eeprom wired with flying leads to the ic socket and running multiprog v1.40 on the i2c page. |
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 18, 2004, 09:17:00 AM
its not too professional but you can see it does the job of dumping and flashing the eeprom chip
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 09:35:00 AM
so this should work on all eeproms?
could you just make 1 more shot (or a diagram) as to wich direction the chip must be facing and what socket pins are used?
thx again m8.
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 18, 2004, 09:44:00 AM
Anyone else that has corrupt eeproms what are the markings and chip mfrs..
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 09:47:00 AM
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 18, 2004, 09:58:00 AM
all we need now is ICEUK to say he has an atmel 24c02n and we have 4 xboxes with atmel eeproms all gone corrupt.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 18, 2004, 10:07:00 AM
| QUOTE (The iNSOMNIAc @ Feb 18 2004, 06:58 PM) |
| To Pandoriaantjeyes that is the right programmer..the pic below is not the best info but is should give you a rough idea on how the chip will go on the programmer and how the software is setup to read and write. all we need now is ICEUK to say he has an atmel 24c02n and we have 4 xboxes with atmel eeproms all gone corrupt. |
great just what i needed.
now i just have to wait for them to send me a reply with the shipping cost.
Post by: reidarma on February 19, 2004, 05:41:00 AM
I have ordered a new (not Atmel though). Would it work if I use configmagic to lock a harddrive, and write the "EEPROMBackup.bin" onto the new 24C02. Will my xbox wake up? Is it a special way to program the bin-file, or is it straight forward. I tried to solder out the eeprom from a working xbox, but the romdump was different from the romdump from configmagic....
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 19, 2004, 08:03:00 AM
If the configmagic eeprombackup.bin is from the same eeprom as you have tried to read they should be exactly the same unless one was taken before the hdd unlock and the other taken after the hdd unlock. (i think !!)
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 19, 2004, 08:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (thecheekymonkey @ Feb 18 2004, 01:16 PM) |
| might be a thought to get an 8 pin dil socket, only about 5p from a good electronics shop, remove fooked eeprom, solder dil sockect to board, and then your free to hot swap all you like (might comin handy when repairing), also... |
a litle l8, but you sure that would fit?
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 19, 2004, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 19, 2004, 11:59:00 AM
| QUOTE (The iNSOMNIAc @ Feb 19 2004, 05:26 PM) |
| an 8pin dil would not fit an 8 pin smt. the only way would be to use small flying leads from the smt pads to the dil socket...... |
what i was thinking.
thx for the confirmation.
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 23, 2004, 06:32:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| * Embedded eeprom patch for M7 (read the NFO file or face ridicule and scorn). This is very experimental. Instead of reading the EEPROM info out of the actual EEPROM it will be read from data stored inside the kernel. |
and who said it was a stupid idea
Post by: The iNSOMNIAc on February 23, 2004, 07:18:00 AM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 23, 2004, 07:41:00 AM
ohwell, programmer and smartxx on the way
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 24, 2004, 09:41:00 AM
i whonder if it'll work with no eeprom at all (desoldered)...
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 24, 2004, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: Trevante on February 24, 2004, 10:18:00 AM
Post by: Pandoriaantje on February 24, 2004, 10:48:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 24 2004, 06:53 PM) |
| have u tried the programmer yet? |
not here yet... damn bank transfer is taking ages....
if only i had it so i could boot my box and flash the tsop untill my smartxx arrives...
Post by: catdog2 on March 01, 2004, 11:41:00 AM
| QUOTE (Pandoriaantje @ Feb 18 2004, 12:51 PM) |
| i should be able to boot my v1 box with a 1.1 eeprom right? i can get my hands on a 1.1 xbox this afternoon and i was thinking about hot swapping the eeprom. |
NO
Eeprom is physically the same, but encripted using a different key on v1.0 and v1.1-1.5 xbox's.