Post by: iceuk on February 16, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
I TAKE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGE CAUSED TO YOUR HARDWARE!!
Stuff Required :
Live Info Beta 2 (team Assembly)
hdunlock.exe
hddisable.exe
Windows boot disk
Locked hdd
Step 1
With your pc turned off plug the power into the locked hdd (not ide cable)
Turn your pc on and boot into windows
Plug the ide cable into the locked hdd (VERY CAREFULLY)
Go to device manager and search for new hardware
The locked hdd should show up after searching finishs (will not show up in my computer)
Start live info beta 2, you will see some eeprom stuff (ignore it) you need to click on the ide device drop down list in the hdd info section (if the list doesn't work click on it then use the arrow key)
In the calculated password box you should now see a password made up of letters and numbers (40 approx)
Make a note of these numbers on paper and double check them.
Now you need to turn off your pc.
Step 2
Remove the ide cable from the locked drive (not Power)
Boot into DOS using your windows boot disc
Plug the ide cable back into the locked hdd (CAREFULLY)
Now you need to execute hdunlock.exe
The first option is to choose your hdd (Press the coresponding number)
Next option is enter the password (the one you wrote down)
It should now say done!.
Start hddisable.exe (you need this to make sure your drive will not lock again on reboot!)
The first option is to choose your hdd (Press the coresponding number)
Next option is enter the password (the one you wrote down)
It should now say done!.
Step 3
Reboot your pc.
It should now boot up into windows without asking for a password.
If it doesnt you have done something wrong!!!
If you are now in window your drive has been successfully unlocked.
REMEMBER YOUR DRIVE WILL NOT SHOW UP IN MY COMPUTER UNTIL IT IS FORMATTED.
Hmm.... Maybe next time you will backup all your data from your xbox (including the EEPROM)!
If you encounter any problems with this tut let me know!
Happy Unlocking :D
IcEuK
#xboxdash
This post has been edited by iceuk: Feb 16 2004, 10:30 PM
Post by: The LukeMan on February 16, 2004, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: iceuk on February 16, 2004, 02:30:00 PM
You never know it might help someone!
This post has been edited by iceuk: Feb 16 2004, 10:31 PM
Post by: EKJ on February 16, 2004, 04:35:00 PM
Have you tested this?. It's well known that when you don't have an eeprom backup and u have a locked HDD you are screwed.
I test the little proggie (with my non-locked PC drives) and what I see is that the HDD password is different every time I load a different eeprom.
The password that liveInfo Beta 2 is giving us for a given HDD is the one that HDD is meant to have with NO eeprom data (or blank data). And I'm afraid it won't be the same as the one that HDD is currently locked with.
Sorry about my english.. but I think I make myself clear.
Just my two cents... but if this method does indeed work, you've make lots of people happy then.
See ya.
This post has been edited by EKJ: Feb 17 2004, 02:38 AM
Post by: The LukeMan on February 16, 2004, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: Muntzster on February 16, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: cap269 on February 16, 2004, 07:24:00 PM
Post by: iceuk on February 16, 2004, 10:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (EKJ @ Feb 17 2004, 01:59 AM) |
| Have you tested this?. It's well known that when you don't have an eeprom backup and u have a locked HDD you are screwed. |
you don't need any eeprom data to do this!!
That eeprom part of the program is not used in the unlocking procedure!
leave that section alone i changed nothing and it worked for me
I have unlocked 2 retail seagate drives, 4 maxtor retail drives and a 80gb maxtor 7200rpm drive.
ALL WERE 100% SUCCESSFUL
This post has been edited by iceuk: Feb 17 2004, 06:24 AM
Post by: iceuk on February 16, 2004, 10:32:00 PM
I will post the result's as soon as i have had a go at unlocking it.
All i can say is that this proccess has worked for me everytime!
p.s my operating system is win2000 sp4
ice
Post by: Dissolved on February 16, 2004, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: iceuk on February 16, 2004, 11:49:00 PM
i got that on a seagate
i had to try it 4 or 5 times i think
Post by: Dissolved on February 17, 2004, 12:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 12:13 AM) |
| hmm.. i got that on a seagate i had to try it 4 or 5 times i think |
hdunlock u only have to do once correct?
Post by: iceuk on February 17, 2004, 02:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 07:56 AM) |
| Right .. today someone is bringing a 40gb seagate to me to unlock because he has destroyed his box trying to install a new chip and pulled a load of traces of the board. (hmm! tsop's are so much easyer) Prat!. |
Right... the seagate 40gb hdd unlock ok using my method
Post by: thecheekymonkey on February 17, 2004, 05:08:00 AM
iceuk where u based mate, how much to do this for me, maxtor 80 gigler locked, how much inc return delivery (presuming your in the uk)
This post has been edited by thecheekymonkey: Feb 17 2004, 01:09 PM
Post by: Dissolved on February 17, 2004, 05:10:00 AM
| QUOTE (thecheekymonkey @ Feb 17 2004, 05:32 AM) |
| didnt work for me either, tryed 7or8 times, followed your tut to a t, under winxp, hdunlock worked (displayed ok) then hddisable just said failed (device not ready)................ |
yea.. same here..
i cannot get live info beta to read any drives..
unlockx will not work with the password configmagic tells me (hdd swap trick)
So this is BS or theres something hes doing different..
Post by: Pooky on February 17, 2004, 05:32:00 AM
i'm have XP. Would it have something to do with the OS you're running.
Post by: Dissolved on February 17, 2004, 05:37:00 AM
so i dunno what hes doing, but something is wrong..
Post by: Dissolved on February 17, 2004, 08:18:00 AM
just a warning...
Post by: iceuk on February 17, 2004, 09:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (Pooky @ Feb 17 2004, 03:40 PM) |
| i know it's strange. But i did they same method with a maxtor 80 gig and there it worked. So.. it shouldn't be the OS you're running but maybe it matters if you want to unlock original hd's |
so you are confirming it worked then?
Post by: cap269 on February 17, 2004, 10:38:00 AM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 07:06 PM) | ||
so you are confirming it worked then? |
The 80G Maxtor may not have been locked, or, if it was, since it wasn't an Xbox original HD, the master security password was unchanged. M$ changes the master passwords on the XBOX original drives, so the calculated passwords and original manufacturer passwords don't work. Consequently the software provided passwords won't work either. They (M$) use Maximum Security mode to the hilt.
Iceuk, I am not saying your method doesn't work, I'm just saying it doesn't work everytime for everybody, so that makes it useless, essentially. But hey, if it works for you, then you can make some $$$ unlocking drives for folks.
Post by: iceuk on February 17, 2004, 12:40:00 PM
| QUOTE (iceuk @ Feb 17 2004, 07:03 PM) |
| What im gonna do now is try this method on a couple of other pc's and see what results i get. |
Right..
Tried some unlocks of retail on 2 other pc's running windows 2000
hmm.. they would'nt unlock
Tried 3 bigger drives (80gb maxtor, 120gb seagate, wd 40gb)
They all unlocked successfully!!!!!
i have now made a full image of my magic windows 2000 machine what unlocked the retail drives!!
It looks to me now that this method will only unlock non original xbox hhd's on most peoples machines
keep posting, let me know how it goes
believe me i will NOT give up!
Post by: xskipper on February 17, 2004, 02:43:00 PM
HDDisable = Device is not ready
I have a 160 Gb WD.
Post by: Pooky on February 18, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
Post by: EKJ on February 18, 2004, 11:10:00 AM
See ya.
Post by: c_poussard on February 18, 2004, 03:28:00 PM
really not the greatest solderer in the world and dont really want to try to swap eeproms...might make 2 dead xboxes over this ...
Post by: Dissolved on February 18, 2004, 03:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (c_poussard @ Feb 18 2004, 04:28 PM) |
| Soo... is it not possible to unlock an original seagate/wd xbox hd with this swap method? really not the greatest solderer in the world and dont really want to try to swap eeproms...might make 2 dead xboxes over this ... |
what are you talking about?
Post by: EKJ on February 19, 2004, 05:20:00 AM
Let's see if we can find out if this method works, or the key for it to work.
See ya.
Post by: acidxwarp on February 20, 2004, 09:59:00 AM
Is my drive trashed? I thought it didnt matter if it was locked or not if you had a chip but apparently I was wrong eheh.
Post by: iceuk on February 20, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
you can boot a config magic cd and dump that backup on to the rom and unlock it..
you can also read the eeprom bin file which is on your pc to get the password.
Not really sure what your saying!! ... had a lot to drink!!!
Post by: iceuk on February 20, 2004, 10:29:00 AM
Good News..... ish!!
I spoke to some Linux programmers the other night about drive unlocking..
I told them the situation with the xbox and stuff..
They now have 3 retail xbox hdd's (had to travel 80 miles) and they are very sure they can build a prog to do the job..
The app will be built around the linux os.. ( wont make windows app.. they hate m$)..
so i will keep you updated..
ice
Post by: Dissolved on February 20, 2004, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: HuddaDudda on February 22, 2004, 09:52:00 PM
Post by: iceuk on February 23, 2004, 06:36:00 AM
you can have ago at unlocking it above but seeing some of the reports i doubt it will work...
You will not lose any of the data on it tho..
But...
if your in the uk you can send me the eeprom off the board and i will be able to get the key for you (if it is still intact!!)
Post by: HuddaDudda on February 23, 2004, 09:11:00 AM
Post by: iceuk on February 23, 2004, 09:31:00 AM
you should not lose any data
Post by: HuddaDudda on February 23, 2004, 10:44:00 AM
I will make a boot cd and do some tricky tricky stuff.
Post by: HuddaDudda on February 23, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
Post by: LepPpeR on March 10, 2004, 09:43:00 AM
No good for seagate.
Post by: SEPHZAI on March 10, 2004, 09:51:00 AM
. i suggest getting it even if u gues get ur fixed. its just not worth risking the hardware, lol. but then again, if those ppl can make a new prog it would b pretty usefull.
Post by: atulb on March 10, 2004, 03:01:00 PM
Post by: Mr_D on March 10, 2004, 04:59:00 PM
However, other people I tell this method to say that it doesn't work... I don't know if it's only non-retail drives or what.
It seems like the best one can do is brute-force the password, but that would take a while.
Post by: soulfly282 on March 10, 2004, 05:51:00 PM
Hey where can I get this live info beta 2 program??????????
Post by: atulb on March 10, 2004, 06:44:00 PM
)What i dont understand is that why are there so many great unlock tools/utilities for Mac and not for Win..that's just messed
Post by: soulfly282 on March 11, 2004, 05:09:00 PM
Post by: Th3_Jok3r on March 12, 2004, 03:08:00 PM
Post by: madklown on March 16, 2004, 02:26:00 AM
Post by: Kibe on March 17, 2004, 06:35:00 PM
Can you please give more details abou this?
Post by: chinmi on March 30, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: BulletMag on March 30, 2004, 11:49:00 AM
)Strangely enough though config magic reports the drive as NOT LOCKED though i can't low level format or basicly do anything other than identify the drive itself...
it may be truely shagged.. but i would like to get thes other 3 WD drives working as they are just sitting here doing nowt.
Post by: BAP1130 on March 31, 2004, 04:28:00 PM
Post by: thefilepirater on April 05, 2004, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: Kev052683 on April 05, 2004, 12:48:00 PM
| QUOTE (thefilepirater @ Apr 5 2004, 09:36 PM) |
| yes, i want to format my hdd, its unlocked, and now i dont know how to format it...help? |
Dude.....they're talking about unlocking drives, not formatting! Wrong topic! Check out Slayers 2.5 for formatting your HD
Post by: triggernum5 on April 06, 2004, 05:50:00 PM
Anyways, hdlock/hdunlock/hddisabl use 20 byte key. Xbox/atapwd use 16 byte key
Post by: chinmi on April 19, 2004, 02:03:00 AM
hdunlock said "done" but when i tried the hddisable it said "device not ready"
how about that linux program ?? is it ready yet ??
Post by: tester123 on April 20, 2004, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: tester123 on April 20, 2004, 07:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (micah @ Apr 5 2004, 03:03 PM) |
| I too have had this problem, my old modded xbox will not boot at all (it does the turn on and off 3 times thing with the mod chip out) and I locked the hard drive on there. I've tried following these instructions above. When I use a boot disk to go to dos and run hdunlock, type in the password that liveinfo gave me (the 40-digit number) and it says done. I've realized that any code you put in will say done. I locked it with ConfigMagic FINAL (this is my 120g WD Hard drive), and I know their default password is TEAMASSEMBLY, but what does that do and/or is used for? When I try to run the hddisable program (or hdlock), type in the same long string, it tells me that it doesn't work. Are others having these same problems? Just to make sure we're all on the same page here, I want to unlock this hard drive because my new modded xbox can't boot to it because it was locked on my other machine. Some other things I have tried: I have that Unlockx program as well, but that doesn't unlock when I put the code in. I've tried the Hot Swap thing with ConfigMagic FINAL and it was unable to unlock it. I really should have never locked it in the first place, and I really should have written down that long password. I am willing to offer the person who can tell me exactly what needs to be done (or even link to a page that explains it) $5 USD (via paypal or whatever) if I get my hard drive working again. Thanks to everyone who takes the time to help people like me out. |
Go to the downloads section on the main page www.xbox-scene.com and search for atapwd.exe and then use TEAMASSEMBLY as the master password. You'll be in good shape then. Don't pay anybody for free information.
Post by: pirlonga on April 20, 2004, 07:10:00 AM
Post by: marksu on May 01, 2004, 12:18:00 AM
Post by: Artifex on May 01, 2004, 08:21:00 AM
| QUOTE |
The disk lock is a built-in security feature in the disk. It is part of the ATA specification, and thus not specific to any brand or device. A disk always has two passwords: A User password and a Master password. Most disks support a Master Password Revision Code, which can tell you if the Master password has been changed, or it it still the factory default. The revision code is word 92 in the IDENTIFY response. A value of 0xFFFE means the Master password is unchanged. A disk can be locked in two modes: High security mode or Maximum security mode. Bit 8 in word 128 of the IDENTIFY response tell you which mode your disk is in: 0 = High, 1 = Maximum. In High security mode, you can unlock the disk with either the user or master password, using the "SECURITY UNLOCK DEVICE" ATA command. There is an attempt limit, normally set to 5, after which you must power cycle or hard-reset the disk before you can attempt again. In Maximum security mode, you cannot unlock the disk! The only way to get the disk back to a usable state is to issue the SECURITY ERASE PREPARE command, immediately followed by SECURITY ERASE UNIT. The SECURITY ERASE UNIT command requires the Master password and will completely erase all data on the disk. The operation is rather slow, expect half an hour or more for big disks. (Word 89 in the IDENTIFY response indicates how long the operation will take.) |
Post by: lordvader129 on May 01, 2004, 08:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (Artifex @ May 1 2004, 12:21 PM) |
| These sort of threads frustrate me. This simply, flat out, will not work. If it is working for iceuk, then he is confused about his procedure. You CANNOT unlock an hdd without either the master or user hdd password. Software, regardless of operating system, CANNOT "retrieve" the master or user hdd password from an hdd, you must know it. If you do not have the eeprom data which was used to lock the drive, you are out of luck.... end of story. --Artifex PS: Some further technical details, taken from a good explanation on hdd locking, are below. For even MORE technical details, refer to the ATA specification. |
reading his procedure it seems he probably had his own eeprom loaded into liveinfo from some previous unlock attempt (and forgot it was loaded) and thats how he was able to generate the correct unlock code for his test HD
in short, this procedure (like others already in the tutorial section) will only work if you have a valid eeprom.bin backup
Post by: calamiacustomz on May 01, 2004, 11:17:00 AM
Post by: lordvader129 on May 01, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
Post by: DaveHShapiro on July 30, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
Nothing I've tried seem to work. I haven't been around as long as some people but from my experience These drives cannot be unlocked. If anyone wants to PROVE they can if they record on video the entire process I'll host the file no matter what size. Also if they only have a VHS recorder they can send me the tape and I'll convert it.
Post by: OcnewB on August 10, 2004, 06:52:00 AM
No serious, i tried everything described everywhere and it just does not work.
Theres absolutely no way to unlock a locked drive without the eeprom or hddkey.
GET OVER IT Most of the times it only is 8 or 10 gb. IF you wanna buy some locked drives As in more than 20, PM me.
Post by: networkBoy on August 10, 2004, 09:00:00 AM
Anyway I have been working on the holy grail of unlocking HDDs w/o the key for some time now and currently I have blown up 3/4 of the drives I've experimented on. Half of the surviving drives are still locked and 2 drives have been successfully read in a PC without access to the key (note that they are still locked and a reboot of the PC is enough to make them inaccessable again).
My most recent writeup is: HERE
There is a (new) thread dedicated to this topic HERE
-nB
Post by: **Aaron** on August 11, 2004, 12:30:00 AM
or there should be a program somewere that gos 00001 00002 00003 and so on till it gets it
Post by: aRtEE on February 12, 2006, 11:42:00 PM
sorry i was wrong i thought it was ok because when i wrote hdunlock and hddisabl it says Done. so i thought it was unlocked.. but when i search the disk to format it i cant find it.. i thought i was ok.. i was happy.. :S somebody having the same problem..?