Post by: tailspower2001 on September 12, 2004, 04:14:00 PM
1st you need 3 things; Bochs, Memory, and BIOS
Step 1: Getting Windows XP
Step 2: Modding your X-BOX
Step 3: Sending your X-Box to firendtech for an memory upgread (you need it to make this work will and for playing games like Battlefild 1942 on yout X-BOX)
Step 4: Installing Bochs on your X-BOX
Step 5: Fashing the new BIOS on your mod-chip (this is were having an mod-chip that can use more then one BIOS and a BIOS Loader comes on handly).
Step 6: Installing Windows XP under Bochs
Step 7: Get all your Windows Games reday it's time to play them
Step 8: Buy an USB keyborad and adpter for School, web, and for most PC Games.
Post by: nightfallNTRKTV on September 12, 2004, 07:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (tailspower2001 @ Sep 13 2004, 12:10 AM) |
| Befor the e-mail system starts marking your requests for how to use Windows XP on X-BOX as SPAM. I fell It's time to tell all. 1st you need 3 things; Bochs, Memory, and BIOS Step 1: Getting Windows XP Step 2: Modding your X-BOX Step 3: Sending your X-Box to firendtech for an memory upgread (you need it to make this work will and for playing games like Battlefild 1942 on yout X-BOX) Step 4: Installing Bochs on your X-BOX Step 5: Fashing the new BIOS on your mod-chip (this is were having an mod-chip that can use more then one BIOS and a BIOS Loader comes on handly). Step 6: Installing Windows XP under Bochs Step 7: Get all your Windows Games reday it's time to play them Step 8: Buy an USB keyborad and adpter for School, web, and for most PC Games. |
Step 9: A spellchecker
Post by: chimpanzee on September 12, 2004, 10:44:00 PM
Has anyone tried running XP on a IBM PC AT ? And playing games, may be pacman but even that I doubt.
Post by: Scoot15n on September 13, 2004, 04:08:00 AM
PLEASE TELL ME
I HAVE ALL MEMORY UPGRADES, BIOS AN THE LOT
THANX
Post by: tailspower2001 on September 13, 2004, 06:21:00 AM
Post by: iT3rr0r on September 13, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: chimpanzee on September 13, 2004, 10:26:00 PM
Post by: Scoot15n on September 19, 2004, 01:32:00 PM
Post by: Danerss on October 22, 2004, 05:29:00 PM
Load linux, then load VMWARE and have it run your XP session, it will handle all the Hardware virtualizing for you!
If you really want to be cool, you would just get your hands on a copy of VMWARE ESX and virtualize 3 or 4 different OS versions on your XBOX.
But if you like doing things the hard way, don't listen to me at all.
Post by: ButterHead on November 06, 2004, 07:16:00 AM
Post by: guitardork864 on November 06, 2004, 02:05:00 PM
Post by: INSB_GLOCK on January 08, 2005, 04:50:00 AM
Post by: Flame2k on January 08, 2005, 04:54:00 AM
why do we bother.
xp will bareley boot INTO DOS MODE on xbox under bochs let alone open an app or gui
as for games ur outta ur fucking mind. fucking noobs
This post has been edited by Flame2k: Jan 8 2005, 12:56 PM
Post by: LESTAT on January 08, 2005, 10:39:00 PM
go do some learning before you EVER kick XP out of the running for the xbox..
how many times do i have to say it along with others,, Embedded can run on Flash rom chip thats like 16 megs and a barebones embedded installation WITH NETWORKING is less than 100 megs. thats XP gui explorer networking video sound yada yada.
you people really gotta learn a thing or two about what M$ has done with its little bloated OS in the last few years. i mean shit they have the Live CD before Linux did where do you think linux got the idea...
go find the thread here called "getting it running" or something close to that, there are some fine gent's working hard to get embedded running.
Post by: Mr.INSANE on January 09, 2005, 01:09:00 AM
Post by: parsaw on January 11, 2005, 03:25:00 PM
Windows XP on Xbox would be sort of cool and stufffffffff, but it wouldn't work that well.
It would be nice to run Battlefield and other games like that on my Xbox though..
Post by: neosnightmare on January 12, 2005, 04:36:00 AM
me opening folder:
click click
*two hours later*
FUCK THIS! need Kill.Switch fix. NOW! its been two hours!
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on January 12, 2005, 04:42:00 AM
QUOTE(neosnightmare @ Jan 12 2005, 10:31 PM)
i can just picture the mega lag when u do simple things like opening a folder. and this is putting aside the hardware capatibility issues.
me opening folder:
click click
*two hours later*
FUCK THIS! need Kill.Switch fix. NOW! its been two hours!
me opening folder:
click click
*two hours later*
FUCK THIS! need Kill.Switch fix. NOW! its been two hours!
and thats when it wants to perform at its best.
Post by: devguy on January 18, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
uh... have fun?
Post by: LESTAT on January 19, 2005, 02:55:00 AM
jesus what part of 64 MEGS OF RAM WILL BARELY RUN WINDOWS dont people understand . ??
even with the 128 meg mod windows XP will still dog out. it would run worse that linux and linux does some serious file swapping. try running more than 1 thins is a serious task.
forget every running games if they do get XP running, it will be internet browsing and XBE launching only, and even then i doubt you could launch an xbe from windows. MAYBE music and movies is HIGHLY doubtful.
XP embedded is apossibility though so lets hoep they get her running.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on January 19, 2005, 04:16:00 AM
so it should play music, maybe low bitrate movies, and not much more.
forget this idea ever occured, and lets all get on with our lives, living in the pressent, not the past
Post by: Stabby_McTwist on January 19, 2005, 06:00:00 PM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Jan 19 2005, 06:11 AM)
have you ever tried runbnng xp on a pc with 128mb ram? it slooooooow at the best of times.
Yep.. the 'Homework' computer in my house runs XP on a PII 400 with 64 MB ram and a 10GB HD. Wow that sounds alot like an XBox only a slower CPU.
It cant play new games, but it can do lots of stuff aside from that. So id say.. dont knock it till its runnin.. Once I see a version of XP for the XBox that will actually install and stuff Im pretty sure Ill go out and buy a 128MB XBox mobo just to run XP on.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on January 20, 2005, 02:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Stabby_McTwist @ Jan 20 2005, 11:55 AM)
Yep.. the 'Homework' computer in my house runs XP on a PII 400 with 64 MB ram and a 10GB HD. Wow that sounds alot like an XBox only a slower CPU.
It cant play new games, but it can do lots of stuff aside from that. So id say.. dont knock it till its runnin.. Once I see a version of XP for the XBox that will actually install and stuff Im pretty sure Ill go out and buy a 128MB XBox mobo just to run XP on.
It cant play new games, but it can do lots of stuff aside from that. So id say.. dont knock it till its runnin.. Once I see a version of XP for the XBox that will actually install and stuff Im pretty sure Ill go out and buy a 128MB XBox mobo just to run XP on.
yer ok, but how many HOURS does it take to start the thing up?
Post by: Stabby_McTwist on January 20, 2005, 08:12:00 AM
QUOTE(ferrari_rulz_02 @ Jan 20 2005, 04:18 AM)
yer ok, but how many HOURS does it take to start the thing up?
About 30 seconds from POST to Win Login
Post by: chimpanzee on January 20, 2005, 01:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Stabby_McTwist @ Jan 20 2005, 04:07 PM)
About 30 seconds from POST to Win Login
Your XP must have been tuned. I have a 700Mhz Celeron notebook, 320M RAM with XP. The 256M RAM module busted once and it took ages to boot into the desktop(it was acceptable in time to get to the Logon screen, but loading the desktop took ages), and launching IE also took ages, the disk just keep spinning for more virtual memory.
Post by: Stabby_McTwist on January 20, 2005, 04:23:00 PM
QUOTE(chimpanzee @ Jan 20 2005, 03:27 PM)
Your XP must have been tuned. I have a 700Mhz Celeron notebook, 320M RAM with XP. The 256M RAM module busted once and it took ages to boot into the desktop(it was acceptable in time to get to the Logon screen, but loading the desktop took ages), and launching IE also took ages, the disk just keep spinning for more virtual memory.
Well.. you are using a different kind of system.. Laptops are usually slower (cuz they use the Mobile processor, they tend to do and load things a little slower) and its also a Celeron.. it has a smaller (i belive) L2 cache. I really cant say anything for sure as ive got a killer headach and sinus headach to boot (from being in a warehouse all day) and I havent really touched anything between the Pentium/Celeron in about 4 years.. I just know that something is smaller.
But hey... if this old hunk-a-junk can run XP im sure sexy sexy beast that the Xbox is could (its called wishful thinkin lol)
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on January 24, 2005, 07:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Stabby_McTwist @ Jan 21 2005, 10:18 AM)
Well.. you are using a different kind of system.. Laptops are usually slower (cuz they use the Mobile processor, they tend to do and load things a little slower) and its also a Celeron.. it has a smaller (i belive) L2 cache. I really cant say anything for sure as ive got a killer headach and sinus headach to boot (from being in a warehouse all day) and I havent really touched anything between the Pentium/Celeron in about 4 years.. I just know that something is smaller.
But hey... if this old hunk-a-junk can run XP im sure sexy sexy beast that the Xbox is could (its called wishful thinkin lol)
But hey... if this old hunk-a-junk can run XP im sure sexy sexy beast that the Xbox is could (its called wishful thinkin lol)
well yer i think teh L2 chache on celerons are small, thats why they are cheap to buy. i think runnign xp might work, but you woudl have to try it and see how fast it is before you start reccomending it
Post by: nsspeak on January 25, 2005, 10:36:00 PM
well, the CD is just lying near the xbox jewel, but its a start...
Post by: Anhaedra on January 25, 2005, 11:38:00 PM
QUOTE(INSB_GLOCK @ Jan 8 2005, 12:45 PM)
LMAO WINDOWS XP ON XBOX??? I MAY TRY THIS TO SEE IF IT WILL RUN WINDOWS 98 OR 95 BUT WAT ELSE IS FUNY IS. WINDOWS XP LMMFAO! THE CURRENT WINDOWS XP WILL NOT RUN ON 64MB OF SYSTEM RAM, AND U CAN DO A MEMORY UPGRADE BUT MAX 128MB. LOL THATS STILL FUNNY. HEY I COULD BE WRONG BUT ISNT BOCHS A X86 EMULATOR. THATS GONA EAT SOME MEMORY TOO, AND I READ ON ANOTHER FORUM THAT THE XBOX CANT GO PAST 128MB OF SYSTEM RAM BECAUSE THE DDR CHIPS "ANYTHING LARGER THAN 16MB EACH CHIP REQUIRES MORE ADDRESSES FOR THE RAM" MEANING IT WILL HAVE MORE LEGS ON THE CHIP. SO ITS NOT POSSIBLE. U SHOULD BE FLAMED FOR WINDOWS XP ON A XBOX LOL. SOMEONE GET THIS LIL FAGEL A MAXIPAD. U CAN TELL HIS MOM WAS ON CRACK WHEN HE WAS BORN. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND GO RUN LAPS BACK AND FORTH ACROSS A BUSY HIGHWAY! LMMFAO
Turn off your caps lock and shut the fuck up. Bochs is an X86 emu, RAM chips do not need more pins for more addresses, and the "LOL UR MOM" jokes got old a very long time ago.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on January 31, 2005, 01:16:00 AM
QUOTE(nsspeak @ Jan 26 2005, 03:06 PM)
I have windows XP on my xbox right now, as I type this...
well, the CD is just lying near the xbox jewel, but its a start...
well, the CD is just lying near the xbox jewel, but its a start...
well let us know when you get any further
Post by: Potato Bob on January 31, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
I get 15 sec post to login and i have a 3.65ghz cpu and 10000rpm raptor (not as noisy as you think) my water cooling system is louder
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 02, 2005, 12:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Potato Bob @ Feb 1 2005, 01:50 PM)
wow 30 sec post? tht is unbeliveable from such a slow comp
I get 15 sec post to login and i have a 3.65ghz cpu and 10000rpm raptor (not as noisy as you think) my water cooling system is louder
I get 15 sec post to login and i have a 3.65ghz cpu and 10000rpm raptor (not as noisy as you think) my water cooling system is louder
so is ur water cooling system just loud?
Post by: tampabayfan on February 14, 2005, 05:43:00 PM
Post by: verawarez on February 15, 2005, 02:20:00 PM
:S
See u
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 17, 2005, 03:18:00 AM
QUOTE(verawarez @ Feb 16 2005, 06:50 AM)
I think it won't be enough ram first
if you are running xp maybe. an embedded version will work fine. think about it. it runs on PDA's with a 233mhz processor, and 16mb ram. it HAS to work fine on an xbox, if you can get it coded properally.
any problems will be software related, not hardware
Post by: onlinebacon on February 19, 2005, 04:46:00 AM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 22, 2005, 02:38:00 AM
QUOTE(onlinebacon @ Feb 19 2005, 09:16 PM)
the coding is the problematic part
what we need (if we really want this to get off the ground), is someone who has experince in this area who has time to donate to the cause
Post by: enderandrew on February 22, 2005, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 23, 2005, 10:32:00 PM
QUOTE(enderandrew @ Feb 23 2005, 02:23 PM)
Will someone install Windows 64 on my XBox for me?
ummm dude.....
read the thread
Post by: Olipro on February 26, 2005, 05:40:00 AM
what next... someone trying to 'enable' HT on their Xbox processor.
still, XP embedded would be the lightest flavour of windows to use, although, if a fully-fledged version of windows were ported, perhaps this could open the doors for the server flavours (although some serious cut-downs would be necessary) but it would certainly be an amusement to see an Xbox serving Active Directory.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 26, 2005, 06:23:00 AM
QUOTE(Olipro @ Feb 26 2005, 10:10 PM)
yes, but the thing I find to be the most ignorant about that post, is the fact that he's requesting a 64-bit OS for a 32-bit architecture...
what next... someone trying to 'enable' HT on their Xbox processor.
still, XP embedded would be the lightest flavour of windows to use, although, if a fully-fledged version of windows were ported, perhaps this could open the doors for the server flavours (although some serious cut-downs would be necessary) but it would certainly be an amusement to see an Xbox serving Active Directory.
what next... someone trying to 'enable' HT on their Xbox processor.
still, XP embedded would be the lightest flavour of windows to use, although, if a fully-fledged version of windows were ported, perhaps this could open the doors for the server flavours (although some serious cut-downs would be necessary) but it would certainly be an amusement to see an Xbox serving Active Directory.
some poeple really dont understand technology do they?
Post by: onlinebacon on February 26, 2005, 07:32:00 AM
Post by: Olipro on February 26, 2005, 05:25:00 PM
I can't somehow see the standard flavour of XP succeeding to run on 64Mb RAM, but who knows, maybe it can be cut down that far...
Post by: djdafreund on February 27, 2005, 02:21:00 AM
Post by: onlinebacon on February 28, 2005, 12:31:00 AM
ah well, all things come to an end, like this post, bye
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on February 28, 2005, 01:47:00 AM
QUOTE(onlinebacon @ Feb 27 2005, 12:02 AM)
If you wanted to have WIndows XP only on your XBOX and not play any games, then I am sure that you could reformat the hard drive, from FATX to FAT32, enabling it to run on the XBOX, but I think if it were that easy it would have happened way before now, so I say this as a suggestion.
yes, but the hardware is whats stopping this being done. i think its a problem with the bios (aand more specifically editing it). there might be a solution out there.
i woudl use it, just to go on the internet, and a new dash to load my xbox games (if thats possible), but not to play win games or nuttin like that.
Post by: dr.dankenstein on February 28, 2005, 02:33:00 AM
i'm using it on my xbox right now, on the internet, typing this reply to you.
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 01, 2005, 04:41:00 AM
QUOTE(dr.dankenstein @ Feb 28 2005, 07:03 PM)
if you're just looking to get on the internet get linksboks.
i'm using it on my xbox right now, on the internet, typing this reply to you.
i'm using it on my xbox right now, on the internet, typing this reply to you.
ok, sounds kool. i might have to have a good look at it
Post by: manny182 on March 10, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
ah those were the daysPost by: manny182 on March 10, 2005, 05:23:00 PM
is this the only one, or are there better ones?
plus does it have the xbox dvd rom support? (to read the cd's)
Post by: manny182 on March 10, 2005, 05:29:00 PM
ok ok last question before sleep takes over
1. will it save savegames, or install files just like if it was on a pc?
MOST IMPORTANT 2. Whats the difference in the xports version than the latest original version?
Sorry for the silly "n00b" questions, i'm just going to bed so hopefully you can answer them overnight, and i'm so excited i'm gonna play normality again and on my xbox!
Or i could play battle chess.
Post by: deusprogrammer on March 11, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
I think this is similar to how people want PS2 games to run on the XBox. Sure Bochs emulates DOS, but A) Windows XP isn't just a DOS Shell like Windows 95 and earlier versions, it is a full fledged OS with it's own file system and
Even though XPs requirement is 128MB, theoretically if you could somehow get XP on Bochs, it would end up requiring more memory and CPU because of the fact it is emulated. But frankly I can't blame people for being curious. My best recommendation is if you have an idea, try it. If it doesn't work oh well, you will learn from it. I mean, since when has trying to put XP on an XBox ever hurt someone...well except for that cat I killed...but that was an accident.
Post by: manny182 on March 11, 2005, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(manny182 @ Mar 10 2005, 11:59 PM)
oh wait that was just answered by a different site.
ok ok last question before sleep takes over
1. will it save savegames, or install files just like if it was on a pc?
MOST IMPORTANT 2. Whats the difference in the xports version than the latest original version?
Sorry for the silly "n00b" questions, i'm just going to bed so hopefully you can answer them overnight, and i'm so excited i'm gonna play normality again and on my xbox!
Or i could play battle chess.
ok ok last question before sleep takes over
1. will it save savegames, or install files just like if it was on a pc?
MOST IMPORTANT 2. Whats the difference in the xports version than the latest original version?
Sorry for the silly "n00b" questions, i'm just going to bed so hopefully you can answer them overnight, and i'm so excited i'm gonna play normality again and on my xbox!
Or i could play battle chess.
anyone know the answers to these questions?
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on March 12, 2005, 06:12:00 AM
QUOTE(deusprogrammer @ Mar 12 2005, 04:04 AM)
I mean, since when has trying to put XP on an XBox ever hurt someone...well except for that cat I killed...but that was an accident.
but thats not a loss, so it doesnt matter anyway