Post by: TfAv1228 on August 24, 2004, 09:34:00 AM
Post by: FireStormZX on August 25, 2004, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: tailspower2001 on August 27, 2004, 06:04:00 PM
It will do everything that Windows XP can, exeput run Windows XP Games. That's the best you'll get out of X-BOX, without an lot of work.
Post by: total_ass on August 28, 2004, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: Scan-C on August 29, 2004, 08:45:00 AM
as for running windows xp with bochs... it takes about 2 hours to install win 95 and it does run very slow. please tell me which add-ons enabled you to run windows xp on bochs...
Post by: stezo2k on August 29, 2004, 09:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (total_ass @ Aug 28 2004, 04:51 PM) |
| what speed does it run at? |
it would be very very slow, i run windows 3.1 on bochs, and that runs slower than a Pentium 1 66MHz on 3.1
Post by: Killer79 on September 19, 2004, 01:46:00 PM
Post by: theory.altered on October 16, 2005, 01:36:00 AM
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Windows XP can actually use ethernet too, given xdsl is set up for networking.
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Post by: SweBaztard-SmartXX on October 31, 2005, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(theory.altered @ Oct 16 2005, 09:11 AM)
Its not that hard. I am running XP on my xbox through Qemu through linux and if you take the time to turn off all the services which xbox doesn't need, strip down features by disabling them in the control panel and then editing them out of system ini's and deleting the files, then a few other boot process modifications to optimize it to run in a qemu environment, and it actually runs quite nicely, even with WMP 9. There's already a tutorial up on how to get 98 running smoothely, just follow that and I reccomend Magellas Winboost to help your optimization process (http://www.winboost.com/) Just make sure you run PC qemu to set it up first, installing and optimizing on xbox would be hell. So set it up before you transfer.
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Windows XP can actually use ethernet too, given xdsl is set up for networking.
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Windows XP can actually use ethernet too, given xdsl is set up for networking.
Ooooooookaaaayyy.
Post by: Helios on November 01, 2005, 03:11:00 AM
Post by: sick_mate_xbox on November 02, 2005, 11:20:00 PM
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I am running XP on my xbox through Qemu through linux
do you have pictures? until then i dont think everyone will believe you..
Post by: crypysmoker on November 04, 2005, 04:15:00 PM
and now u have all these new people who are saying that they have xp running on thier xbox
Listen, If all these legit programers who constantlly write things for xbox could put xp on there IT WOULD BE THERE AND A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WOULD HAVE IT.
now, why in the hell would you want windows any version running on your xbox?? dont u have a pc that runs it allready?? so your saying you want 2 of the same thing to do the same things even though an xbox has a 2 device limit so no more hardware to add, very hard ram upgrade, cause i msorry, but XP take a lillion years to boot on a pentium much less an xbox. doesnt matter the cpu speed.
I really dont understand why so many people rely on windows, that is what MS is trying to do anyway, create a monopoly and your playing into it.
As for the people who keep coming in here saying I have it running on my xbox PUT SOME DAMN PICS UP. i swear, everyone just automaticlly expects everyone to belive what they ar esaying.... and the fact that there a couple people here who just went and started a new account just to say they had it running..... DONT U HAVE A LIFE
Post by: shinomen on December 08, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
Ok, I know I'm double posting, but I didn't think that people were drawn in by my last post about this.
This is the windows xp environment with the explorer shell running on top of it. Windows PE for those of you that don't know is a 32bit minimal windows operating system that normally boots off a cd and assists in the Pre-installation of windows XP.
Well, one person came up with a way to make a Windows PE environment that you can run programs other than installing windows XP on. Bart's site is at www.nu2.nu From there another person, Sherpyra website, has found a way to run the XPE shell with the windows PE environment.
I believe XPE stands for XP Embedded (yet another operating system that MS has come out with for things like Kiosks and other hardware that only require a stripped down version of windows XP).
So now that you have a little background, let me tell you that the picture your looking at above is in fact booting off a CD on a standard x86 PC. With only 64mb of ram and a 700mhz processor, and it runs pretty quick. There is network support, support for standard 32 bit windows applications, ftp, etc........... pretty much, the sky is the limit.
I've seen that linux can be installed on the xbox (I hear it's relatively easy now) and it's been done by booting off a cd that initializes a linux kernel and it takes off from there (I'm sure it's little more complicated than that, but you get the point)
Theoretically, all someone has to do is make an xbe file that would initialize the WinPE kernel and from there it would take off and run the OS from the CD. Even farther down the line maybe someone could make it so that the OS boots from the hard drive.
Unfortunately I don't have the knowledge to actually figure out how to build an XBE file let alone a boot loader for the XBOX. So I throw this idea out to all you smart guys surfin around here that might like to give it a shot.
I'll help out in anyway I can.
Thanks
This post has been edited by shinomen: Dec 8 2003, 10:48 PM
Post by: daviefresh1775 on December 08, 2003, 02:05:00 PM
Post by: Xeero on December 08, 2003, 02:09:00 PM
I see NO indication that this is an Xbox. However, I see specs that don't match the Xbox, a whole lot of icons of programs that have not been released/compiled for used with the Xbox, drives that don't exist on the Xbox, and file systems that are not used with the Xbox.
Brilliant deduction, poster.
Post by: shinomen on December 08, 2003, 02:44:00 PM
Regardless, the idea is still the same. This could be used on the xbox if someone can figure out a way to start loading it using a default.xbe file.
Like I said before, I don't have the knowledge it takes to write an xbe file to do this.
I'll tell you what though, if you show be a tutorial on programming an .xbe file I'll sure as hell give it a try.
Thanks for the replies
Post by: daviefresh1775 on December 08, 2003, 07:16:00 PM
Post by: Xeero on December 08, 2003, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: Chicken Scratch Boy on December 08, 2003, 08:09:00 PM
Post by: pholly on December 08, 2003, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: Large Dopant white on December 08, 2003, 08:48:00 PM
| QUOTE (pholly @ Dec 9 2003, 06:05 AM) |
| Wouldn't flashing it with a pc bios (if it's even possible) screw up your xbox, just curious <_< |
You can flash anything you want to an XBox modchip or its TSOP, like, say, that thumbnail of Jenna Jameson giving head. But your XBox won't work if it's not an XBox BIOS. :)
EDIT: The absolute minimum specs of XP, any variation of it (besides 64-bit, which I've never acquired and can't comment upon), is a Pentium 133 with 96MB of RAM. The XBox can't run XP even IF it got ported (which will not happen). Yes, I have tried PE, same results (it actually needs a little more RAM, it's minimum requirements hover between 96 to 128MB of RAM).
This post has been edited by Large Dopant white: Dec 9 2003, 04:52 AM
Post by: XboxBaboon on December 09, 2003, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: snoopdoug1 on December 09, 2003, 03:56:00 AM
Post by: TB_88 on December 09, 2003, 06:14:00 AM
Take a look at the xbox specs plz... And it maybe would be cool and all but it would be like runnign it on a PC and tv-out...
Post by: shinomen on December 09, 2003, 08:40:00 AM
It's called BGinfo you can get it from Here
@Xeero
Like I said before I don't have the knowledge necessary to answer the question of how would it run if you don't have the source code. I could be wrong about this but the way that I understand it, is that the xbox is no more than an x86 platform with some proprietary MS code running it.
What some smart people have been able to do is make a cd with a customized default.xbe file (which I have read is nothing more than an .exe file) that allows the xbox to boot off the linux kernel.
Now with that having been said, wouldn't it only make sense that someone could modify that default.xbe file to boot off of some other kernel. Or maybe modify it so that it can run an El Torito boot sector and then proceed to run from the cd.
@Large Dopant white
As far as I know I haven't seen anything in writing that states minimum requirements for booting WINPE off a cd. Since the original intention for this 32bit mini os was to just install windows xp on to a computer the only minimum requirements stated are windows xp minimum requirements. I have personally booted the cd on an x86 platform computer running 64mb of ram and a 700mhz processor.
@TB_88
The whole reason for proposing to use this version of windows xp is because it is a slimmed down version of the standard windows xp. This same concept is being utilized in the windows xp embedded version to run on various devices including internet kiosks, handhelp pcs, etc.
Alot of people like windows xp and it would be a familiar environment to them if it could work on the xbox.
@all
Again this is just all in theory. It sounds like it could be practical and that is why I mentioned it here. Sorry if I was misleading with the forum topic. I know alot of people have not heard about this Windows PE environment and I just want to get the info out there to the right people that can make it work on the xbox.
Post by: snoopdoug1 on December 09, 2003, 09:16:00 AM
Post by: shinomen on December 09, 2003, 09:38:00 AM
It still would be interesting to try and make a program that would work on xbox that could make it boot an El Torito cd and see what debug messages would come out of it.
This post has been edited by shinomen: Dec 9 2003, 05:48 PM