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Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: fin1581 on January 10, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
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Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: Anushian on January 10, 2004, 06:08:00 PM
What are the average temperatures for the xbox cpu and motherboard?
CPU temp should range from about 40º-65ºC (104º-149ºF)
Motherboard temp should range from about 33º-49ºC (90º-120ºF)

Taken from the pinned FAQ on the hardware modification board.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: ColKurtz on January 11, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
My CPU rarely gets above 130 F, my mobo runs around 115 F, and my hard disk gets up to about 105 F after playing a while.

But I've seen posts where CPUs get into the 140s and don't have any problems.  Your xbox will shut down if the CPU or mobo temps run into unsafe territory - though I'm unsure if it monitors non-stock hdd temps.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: Thundera on January 31, 2004, 10:49:00 AM
Hi guys,

I know I could probably answer this question myself if I could lay my hands on the xbox's original manual but since I threw it out I thought I'd ask the experts.

Does anyone know the maximum xbox operating temperatures?  Seperate ones for cpu and mobo if you know them but an overall is just as good.

Thanks
Thundera
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: soki on January 31, 2004, 11:01:00 AM
What are the average temperatures for the xbox cpu and motherboard?
CPU temp should range from about 40º-65ºC (104º-149ºF)
Motherboard temp should range from about 33º-49ºC (90º-120ºF)

What is too hot for my xbox?
your xbox sill shut down if the cpu temperature reaches 71ºC (160ºF)



from a sticky at the top of the forum...
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: Thundera on January 31, 2004, 11:08:00 AM
Nice one.

Thanks for the info.  It confirms what I thought, my xbox isn't too hot running at an average of cpu = 50c.  Just wanted to be sure though.

Thanks again.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: akindbro4u on March 06, 2004, 04:24:00 PM
at what temps does the xbox shut down????
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: 7 e on March 06, 2004, 06:31:00 PM
QUOTE
What is too hot for my xbox?
your xbox sill shut down if the cpu temperature reaches 71ºC (160ºF)


Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: lookformeb on March 06, 2004, 07:15:00 PM
QUOTE
What are the average temperatures for the xbox cpu and motherboard?
CPU temp should range from about 40º-65ºC (104º-149ºF)
Motherboard temp should range from about 33º-49ºC (90º-120ºF)

What is too hot for my xbox?

your xbox sill shut down if the cpu temperature reaches 71ºC (160ºF)
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: papaholmz on March 28, 2004, 01:15:00 PM
I have an xbox that i have softmodded. The EvoX dash has recorded a high temp of about 152 degrees F. Is this too hot? How hot is too hot?

thanks,
papaholmz
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: mR. DEATH on September 26, 2003, 09:00:00 AM
I have a WD120BB HDD in my box now and the normal temp it runs has gone from around 50 to 54.  What exactly is a normal/good temp??  I took the top off the box and put a 14 inch room fan on top of it.  It now runs between 46-48.  What fans/permanent cooling methods would y'all recomend???
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: SKoT on September 26, 2003, 11:20:00 AM
Well, even though i wouldnt want mine running that high, it isnt BAD,

BUT

I would at least do the 12V mod or buy another $6 12V fan or put a 40 mm under the HDD blowing AWAY towards the heastsink for the back fan to pull it out if you really want it to be much cooler.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: SeQr on September 26, 2003, 11:57:00 AM
Hmm, well I'm gonna get a 80mm fan soon, if possible also a fan with a LED, since my xbox is in some sort of closet for all sorts of Electronis devices, like dvd player, xbox wink.gif, it is already not in the most perfect situation for cooling, and since my dad "reorganized" it, my xbox is almost onto the ceiling and it doesnt lose as many heat as first. First I had about 56 degrees, with some time playing games from HD, Now I already have 60 and above within about 15 minutes.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: bleugh on September 26, 2003, 12:10:00 PM
definatley isnt good

most consumer electronics will be rated for an external ambient maximum temperature of +40 degrees celcius or so

if your xbox is pulling 60 internally at room temperature (of say 25 degrees) then it's going to break sooner or later.

I cant remember where the temperature probe is exactly in the xbox, i suspect its measuring one IC or another

a good rule of thumb is that if you cant hold your thumb on a component that has no heatsinking for more than a few seconds, its waay too hot and it will need cooling. and if you cant hold your thumb on a device with a heatsink for more than a few seconds, put a bigger heatsink on it or cool it another way

to cool my box a little i've cut out the jewel and bunged some mesh in, i'm really too lazy to put a bigger fan or mod it much more right now, but i'm getting temps of around 48 running games, and thats a 1.1 xbox

seriously i'd look at some extra cooling, read the tutorials.... the 80mm fan is a good compromise if you like a quiet xbox. an 80mm 12V fan is better, a bit noisier but cooler!

your xbox wont fail overnight so dont panic, at 60 degrees though, i wouldnt expect it to last for the warranty period!

....they test component lifetime by running them in artificially high temperatures for a time - say, if its specced to 40 degrees, and 5 years they may run it at 100 degrees, it fails in a month then some mathematical relationship would give a expected lifetime at 20 degrees, maybe 1 week at 100 is equivalent to 2 years at 20 or something like that,  

not entirely accurate, but gives you an idea



Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: SeQr on September 26, 2003, 12:42:00 PM
Yes i had already figured out it was way to hot, so I'm first gonna make sure my box get's back at original point, and as I said I was planning on getting a (LED/Neon) Fan of 80mm. And about the warranty don't worry, according 2 manual it's only 1 year, and I already openen my Xbox, so warranty is gone anyway.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: Pyroknight on September 26, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
I agree with scooby
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: bleugh on September 26, 2003, 03:55:00 PM
ok, but being in the electronics industry, i certainly wouldnt be too happy selling devices with those kind of temps inside them, at room temperature.

just imagine a hot day, or if you decide to have the heating on a fair bit, an extra 20 degrees above ambient room temperature would start screwing up some of the less tolerant bits on the mobo, notably the hard drive for a start

40 degrees ambient, added to the heat generated by the hard drive itself makes for at least 80-90 degrees, that'll fry it sooner rather than later.

CPU temperatures of mis sixties is, admittidley little cause for concern, silicon juctions will start to fail at half that again, the CPU may last (say) 4 years instead of 10 due to accellerated deteoriation (electron migration / tunneling)

if everyone says its ok, then fine, its ok, thats what MS have allowed the xboxes to do,
anyone any returns stats on these things?, going by their records of software development I wouldnt be too surprised if this wasnt a partial oversight
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: exiled350 on September 26, 2003, 04:59:00 PM
yank the heatsink and lap it, then use artic silver thermal paste. with the fan at 12V mine doesnt break 43°c after several hours of use.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: brahm2 on September 26, 2003, 05:22:00 PM
QUOTE
What are the average temperatures for the xbox cpu and motherboard?
CPU temp should range from about 40º-65ºC (104º-149ºF)
Motherboard temp should range from about 33º-49ºC (90º-120ºF)


You're fine.. don't worry..

The best cooling solution for you is to get it out of that console cabinet or whatever you have it in. Put it on the rug in front of your tv smile.gif
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: SeQr on September 27, 2003, 12:09:00 AM
Well, it's in a more open space now, and it's already 10 degrees down to about 51, 51 after one hour of Unreal Chamionship, but still getting a 12v fan with LED's so I have the nicest looking xbox at the LAN party soon.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: A.Z.BEST on September 27, 2003, 08:11:00 AM
I get 53-54 C on my 1.1 with standard 70mm fan. With 12V mod CPU reaches 46-48 C, MCPX is at 34C (wow), but... With 12V mod I can fucking hear my Xbox, when I'm in another room. I tried 2 original 70mm fans, and I tell you; that 12V mod is sick and not worth a.... wink.gif. Get better 80mm fan.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: Larick on September 29, 2003, 09:17:00 PM
QUOTE (bleugh @ Sep 27 2003, 12:55 AM)
just imagine a hot day, or if you decide to have the heating on a fair bit, an extra 20 degrees above ambient room temperature would start screwing up some of the less tolerant bits on the mobo, notably the hard drive for a start

If your ambient temp is 25, and your in a room 20 degree's higher than that (45oC) That's pretty damned hot, and the last thing I would be doing is sitting down in front of a television playing X-Box.  jester.gif

Although I agree that cooler is better, there is a noise vs cooling factor (unless your using peltier plates, or some kinda liquid cooling solution etc) and really, in two or three years, the next incarnation of X-Box will be out, and we the only things these ones will be doing is sitting in a closet or functioning as part of a cluster server.  cool.gif

If you have the money, invest in cooling, if you don't, don't worry about it, your component life may be shortened, but will you really be using your X-Box in 3 years? Will you even be using it in 2 years? Consoles are becoming more and more like PCs lifecycle wise.. Remeber how long Intellivision lasted?  beerchug.gif
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: benjellos on November 11, 2003, 07:18:00 PM
What is a good temp range for my Xbox cpu?

How accurate is the reading in Evox?
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: fastbuickgn on November 12, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
I'M not to sure about the ideal temp,but i would suggest taking the heat sink off and putting some good compound under it.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: x-boxer65 on December 24, 2003, 10:38:00 AM
I was just wondering what the recomened range in temp is for a hard drive and CPU.

I am running a 7200 seagate what would be the recomened fan speed.
Title: Xbox Temperatures (Temps)
Post by: lookformeb on December 24, 2003, 12:19:00 PM
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