Post by: Softco Industries on January 21, 2004, 12:31:00 PM
Post by: WaRnINg| on January 22, 2004, 07:55:00 AM
Post by: Musashi on May 05, 2004, 01:09:00 PM
Post by: miazmaticdotcom on May 05, 2004, 07:43:00 PM
Post by: BLazeD on May 07, 2004, 12:07:00 AM
Just programs that will delete everything!
Post by: psychogoblin on May 07, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
Post by: derived on May 07, 2004, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: dman7 on May 08, 2004, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: webscripter on May 09, 2004, 03:13:00 AM
Post by: spacefrog on July 06, 2004, 02:50:00 AM
Someone could release a game with a virus online for people to download.
It could patch itself to as many default.xbe's as it can find, wait 2 months and then try to reflash the bios, or delete the f:\
It might be able to attach itself to a saved game? so it can be spread via memory cards....
ooh... xbox live content!!! there are people that run modified consoles and turn off the mod to go on live.
I'm just giving MS some good ideas here, I'm sure they've thought if it all before.
With viruses, for it to spread it has to delay the time it activates so that it can spread first. Unless it can email itself to spread.
Post by: ja5983 on August 12, 2004, 04:41:00 PM
more of an interesting story than anything, but i was basically just saying that spacefrogs idea is not THAT far from the truth and has virtually been done before.
Post by: ja5983 on August 12, 2004, 04:42:00 PM
One of the original smart cards, entitled 'H' cards for Hughes, had design flaws which were discovered by the hacking community. These flaws enabled the extremely bright hacking community to reverse engineer their design, and to create smart card writers. The writers enabled the hackers to read and write to the smart card, and allowed them to change their subscription model to receive all the channels. Since the technology of satellite television is broadcast only, meaning you cannot send information TO the satellite, the system requires a phone line to communicate with DirecTV. The hackers could re-write their smart cards and receive all the channels, and unplug their phone lines leaving no way for DirecTV to track the abuse. DirecTV had built a mechanism into their system that allowed the updating of these smart cards through the satellite stream. Every receiver was designed to 'apply' these updates when it received them to the cards. DirecTV applied updates that looked for hacked cards, and then attempted to destroy the cards by writing updates that disabled them. The hacking community replied with yet another piece of hardware, an 'unlooper,' that repaired the damage. The hacker community then designed software that trojanized the card, and removed the capability of the receivers to update the card. DirecTV could only send updates to the cards, and then require the updates be present in order to receive video. Each month or so, DirecTV would send an update. 10 or 15 minutes later, the hacking community would update the software to work around the latest fixes. This was the status quo for almost two years. 'H' cards regularly sold on eBay for over $400.00. It was apparent that DirecTV had lost this battle, relegating DirecTV to hunting down Web sites that discussed their product and using their legal team to sue and intimidate them into submission.
"Four months ago, however, DirecTV began sending several updates at a time, breaking their pattern. While the hacking community was able to bypass these batches, they did not understand the reasoning behind them. Never before had DirecTV sent 4 and 5 updates at a time, yet alone send these batches every week. Many postulated they were simply trying to annoy the community into submission. The updates contained useless pieces of computer code that were then required to be present on the card in order to receive the transmission. The hacking community accommodated this in their software, applying these updates in their hacking software. Not until the final batch of updates were sent through the stream did the hacking community understand DirecTV. Like a final piece of a puzzle allowing the entire picture, the final updates made all the useless bits of computer code join into a dynamic program, existing on the card itself. This dynamic program changed the entire way the older technology worked. In a masterful, planned, and orchestrated manner, DirecTV had updated the old and ailing technology. The hacking community responded, but cautiously, understanding that this new ability for DirecTV to apply more advanced logic in the receiver was a dangerous new weapon. It was still possible to bypass the protections and receive the programming, but DirecTV had not pulled the trigger of this new weapon.
"Last Sunday night, at 8:30 pm est, DirecTV fired their new gun. One week before the Super Bowl, DirecTV launched a series of attacks against the hackers of their product. DirecTV sent programmatic code in the stream, using their new dynamic code ally, that hunted down hacked smart cards and destroyed them. The IRC DirecTV channels overflowed with thousands of people who had lost the ability to watch their stolen TV. The hacking community by and large lost not only their ability to watch TV, but the cards themselves were likely permanently destroyed. Some estimate that in one evening, 100,000 smart cards were destroyed, removing 98% of the hacking communities' ability to steal their signal. To add a little pizzazz to the operation, DirecTV personally "signed" the anti-hacker attack. The first 8 computer bytes of all hacked cards were rewritten to read "GAME OVER".
Post by: eXess on September 05, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
Thinking that the virus must actually exist on my laptop, I do a full scan in safe mode. Finding nothing, I download the Bugbear removal tool from Symantec. Still, nothing is found.
Could it be that the virus exists on my XBOX? I have loaded numerous applications on the modded XBOX. Perhaps one contained a virus? Why else would it look like the attack was coming from my XBOX IP Address? If it originated on the PC, wouldn't it say it was coming from 127.0.0.1, or the IP address of my laptop ... ? Why would it mention the IP of the XBOX?
I must have a virus on the XBOX!? And there is no removal tool...............
Any ideas?? :o
Post by: exiva on September 05, 2004, 05:51:00 PM
Post by: Stealthy on September 05, 2004, 09:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (eXess @ Sep 5 2004, 10:06 PM) |
| So here I am, not connected to anything but my XBOX via Ethernet Crossover Cable. Using nothing but FTP when I get a Norton Antivirus warning for BD_BugBear. Says that the IP Address of my XBOX is attempting an exploit of this virus, and it is blocked on a specific port. Thinking that the virus must actually exist on my laptop, I do a full scan in safe mode. Finding nothing, I download the Bugbear removal tool from Symantec. Still, nothing is found. Could it be that the virus exists on my XBOX? I have loaded numerous applications on the modded XBOX. Perhaps one contained a virus? Why else would it look like the attack was coming from my XBOX IP Address? If it originated on the PC, wouldn't it say it was coming from 127.0.0.1, or the IP address of my laptop ... ? Why would it mention the IP of the XBOX? I must have a virus on the XBOX!? And there is no removal tool............... Any ideas??  |
^^^ it is possible that you could have ftp'd a pc virus to your xbox but yeah, that sounds creepy
Post by: Hopeful on September 06, 2004, 05:46:00 PM
Post by: bluedeath on September 07, 2004, 09:23:00 AM
For any HDD that you suspect of being severely infected: Backup and format.
Post by: anti-hu on September 07, 2004, 11:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (eXess @ Sep 5 2004, 10:06 PM) |
| So here I am, not connected to anything but my XBOX via Ethernet Crossover Cable. Using nothing but FTP when I get a Norton Antivirus warning for BD_BugBear. Says that the IP Address of my XBOX is attempting an exploit of this virus, and it is blocked on a specific port. Thinking that the virus must actually exist on my laptop, I do a full scan in safe mode. Finding nothing, I download the Bugbear removal tool from Symantec. Still, nothing is found. Could it be that the virus exists on my XBOX? I have loaded numerous applications on the modded XBOX. Perhaps one contained a virus? Why else would it look like the attack was coming from my XBOX IP Address? If it originated on the PC, wouldn't it say it was coming from 127.0.0.1, or the IP address of my laptop ... ? Why would it mention the IP of the XBOX? I must have a virus on the XBOX!? And there is no removal tool............... Any ideas?? |
first try and guess the number of viruses/trojans norton does not pick up and then goto http://www.free-av.com/ and install their virus scanner which is free and start counting. i've looked at dozens of computers that had their norton updated and it would not detect a thing. i would throw freeav on there to discover a stable full of trojans. you've got nothing to use considering it's free to home users so you can always go back to norton if it does not cut your mustard.
Post by: Puskas on September 08, 2004, 06:22:00 AM
so if anyone says their xbox has a virus it can only be the current program/game that is running that is the virus, and if there IS viruses for xbox they must be standalone programs that the USER himself chooses to run..
Post by: noselessmonk on September 08, 2004, 10:28:00 AM
Post by: DeadManWalking on September 09, 2004, 04:18:00 AM
Post by: gasclown on September 10, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (Puskas @ Sep 8 2004, 02:25 PM) |
| but isnt the xbox just running ONE xbe at the time |
yes, an xbox can only run one prog at at time - so. what was running at the time, anything with ftp serving?. I seriously doubt eXess' xbox has a virus - but - there's all manor of reasonable (pc side) reasons that norton is throwing up that warning.
Post by: Hopeful on September 10, 2004, 04:56:00 AM
| QUOTE (noselessmonk @ Sep 8 2004, 06:31 PM) |
| If the virus is on your xbox but it is a PC virus, it won't affect your xbox. It shouldn't even be trying to send itself over to your computer because, as I said, if it is a PC virus it wouldn't be able to send itself over to the PC on it's own because it's commands would be for a PC. The only way you could get it off the Xbox would be to download the infected file off of your Xbox on to your PC. Unless someone has written a virus that can detect what system it is running on and has 2 forms of itself in one package and will run the virus on both systems(not likely). I probably have no idea what I'm talking about. Just rambling. |
Uh, what I'm saying is that, the virus could infect your xbox files when it spreads. They now contain the virus. When you ftp your xbox files over to your xbox, BOOM, virus is not on the xbox. Sure, it can't move itself onto it, but you can move it there without knowing.
DeadManWalking... How desireable is it to rebuild over 100 GB's consisting of HUNDREDS of programs, media files, and utilities, because you reformatted your hard drive, some of them requiring strenuous setup, when a simple virus removal solution would save you weeks of work?
Post by: MaTiAz on August 30, 2003, 10:03:00 AM
A: No. The Xbox environment and the PC environment are so much different. Most malware code will run in a PC, but it will not run on Xbox. If you have installed Linux on your Xbox, your Linux files will only be infected if you got a Linux virus. I dont know if there are any Win2k kernel-level viruses, but if there are and they use some right kernel calls, they can make your Xbox malfunction, since Xbox is based on much stripped-down kernel of Win2k. If i got something wrong, please notify me about it.