Post by: Dragonface on December 31, 2003, 10:41:00 PM
Post by: geniusalz on January 12, 2004, 08:51:00 AM
Post by: death_driver_911 on January 25, 2004, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: strukture on January 30, 2004, 10:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (CyborgGamer @ Apr 20 2003, 07:15 PM) |
| I have a samsung dvd in my xbox and I can read just about ANY cd, even the cheapo cdr's. |
But isn't it true that Samsung won't read DVD+r (plus r)?
which drive is best suited to read any brand of DVD+r ? (since I have an 8x DVD+R writer)
Post by: tailspower2001 on February 01, 2004, 12:37:00 PM
| QUOTE (jackyl_816 @ Oct 21 2002, 11:33 PM) |
| No,almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r,all backups must be burned to a cdr-w or dvd-r or dvd-rw,also some dvd+r media works as well. Games can be burned to a cd-r,but must be recopied to one of the above media types in order to play. |
You can make back-up copies on CD-R, but you'll never get them to work in X-Box; even if you mod your X-BOX. Now if you can make an real 1 to 1 copy on DVD-R or DVD+R then yes you can paly them on X-BOX.
Post by: xbox_freak!! on December 15, 2002, 04:33:00 PM
Post by: ravishing_despot on February 06, 2004, 06:20:00 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on February 10, 2004, 09:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (tailspower2001 @ Feb 1 2004, 05:37 PM) |
| You can make back-up copies on CD-R, but you'll never get them to work in X-Box; even if you mod your X-BOX. |
If ignorance is bliss.. you are one happy fellow.
Reading the newbie forum is a laugh sometimes.. watching the blind lead the blind.
Honestly.. is you know something and can help.. then please do so.. but do not spread mis-information plz.
http://forums.xbox-s...indpost&p=90761
I wrote that 18 months ago.. and it still works.
You can make backups on CDR.. and with high success rates.
However.. only 12-15% of all of the xbox games would fit on a CD as is without tinkering with them.
I recommend using DVD-R media and tools like craxtion to get more than one full backup on a disk. Save money.
However.. if someone would like to place some of the smaller games on CDR.. don't mislead them with false information.
Post by: pontfirebird73 on February 11, 2004, 09:30:00 AM
Post by: Bohefus on February 25, 2004, 02:52:00 PM
Post by: xxALxx on December 22, 2002, 08:55:00 AM
Here is a CDR tut :->
Link
And I have tried it and it does work.
Post by: xbox01 on December 22, 2002, 07:36:00 PM
Post by: SUBLOGIC on March 14, 2004, 10:09:00 PM
I see that this topic has gone on for some time, and would like to add my 2 cents.
OK... for all of you who think that you CANT use CD-R.. You are all WRONG!!
You can use CD-R and you will find that if you DONT burn at the full speed of your burner (%50 works fine every time for me), MOST XBOX's will read them.
As for the percentage rate of games that will fit on CD-R, well that has risen aswell due to 800meg CD-R and the use of Quix and the Avalaunch dash.
I use UnleashX my self but boot to Avalaunch for ISO creation, uploading using Qwix.
For those of you who dont know, Qwix incorperates a cross link file scanner.
This finds duplicate files that are some times written to the game disc to make it larger than a standard 4.7 gig DVD (meaning you cant it up as we only have 4.7 gig blanks ATM) and removes them when creating an ISO.
In 1 case, I found that a game was 4.9GB, used Qwix to create an ISO and removed the cross linked files and then became small enough to fit on CD-R.
I further looked at the games folders and found that they had place the audio/video clips repeated 5 times in 5 diff folders. Sneaky ay???
Try them both for your self and you might find that you will save some cash on DVD's!!!
Ok.. another alternative is to get ISO Craxion and burn multiple games to one DVD and use the menu maker incorperated.
Post by: SUBLOGIC on March 24, 2004, 10:15:00 PM
Grab ya self Nero Burn, you can get a trial version Here
Open Nero -->Audio CD -->Nero Express
Drag your mp3(s) you want to make a cd from and drop it/them into the Nero Express window.
Burn to a CD-R
You should now be able to play using XBMC or MS DASH.
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Post by: The_Truth on April 09, 2004, 08:17:00 PM
they can be slightly moddified to cd-r and most formats. it takes someone with a bit of knowledge of electronics and an ohm meter a couple of hours to make it read other media including cd-r's. if anyone is interested pm me and i will try to find the tutorial. this method will however void your warranty, and dont blame me if you hurt yourself...lmao
Post by: brahm2 on April 10, 2004, 10:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (The_Truth @ Apr 9 2004, 11:17 PM) |
| good news for every one with the "crappy Thompson drives" they can be slightly moddified to cd-r and most formats. it takes someone with a bit of knowledge of electronics and an ohm meter a couple of hours to make it read other media including cd-r's. if anyone is interested pm me and i will try to find the tutorial. this method will however void your warranty, and dont blame me if you hurt yourself...lmao |
Yeah, that's the pot tweak tutorial. It's on http://tutorials.xbox-scene.com under hardware modifications.
Post by: xb0xb0y on April 14, 2004, 04:25:00 AM
Post by: slade747 on May 12, 2004, 06:08:00 AM
Post by: MoNeY_MaN on May 15, 2004, 11:52:00 AM
Post by: Xmaster99 on May 21, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
i ordered a chip like 4 days ago and im scared wat if it doesnt read a certain cd-rw where i got my bios and evox on?help? lol
thanks
peace
Post by: brahm2 on May 24, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
| QUOTE (Xmaster99 @ May 21 2004, 11:07 PM) |
| is there any other way 2 replace my dvd-rom? Really i need a way i got Thompson i ordered a chip like 4 days ago and im scared wat if it doesnt read a certain cd-rw where i got my bios and evox on? help? lol thanks peace |
It's easier and cheaper to try a couple different brands of cd-rws than it is to replace the Xbox DVD-ROM. However, if you can't get it to read any CD media, swapping Xbox DVD-ROMs is as easy as unplugging the old one and plugging in the new one.
If that doesn't work, try this:
1. Take out the Xbox DVD-ROM.
2. Put in a PC DVD-ROM. Plug in the IDE cable, but you'll need a molex Y-splitter to splice power from the hard drive for the PC DVD-ROM. Ignore the yellow cable that plugs into the Xbox DVD-ROM.
3. Power on, flash your BIOS, do whatever you need to. The PC DVD-ROM will read anything that it reads normally, but it will not read original Xbox game discs.
Here's the full tutorial with pictures:
http://www.xbox-scen...es/swap-dvd.php
Read over this one too, it's almost the same thing without pictures:
http://www.xbox-scen...es/dvddrive.php
Then when you're done flashing your BIOS and doing what you need to do with CD-rws, simply reverse the whole thing, and stick the Xbox DVD-ROM back in for reading originals.
Post by: manxbox44 on May 25, 2004, 04:15:00 PM
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Post by: jason jx on June 03, 2004, 03:52:00 AM
Post by: SUBLOGIC on June 03, 2004, 04:29:00 PM
In one XBOX (v1.1) I have a Samsung, and the other (v1.4 a MS refurbished xbox) has a Thompson.
I have never ever had a problem reading "LASER PLATINUM" CD-R in either of the drives.
Im not sure if its due to the fact that the XBOX with the Thompson drive is a refurbished unit from MS but it works and was only $179 AUS!
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Post by: NanoStudios on June 05, 2004, 03:15:00 PM
Post by: shocwave on June 11, 2004, 10:45:00 PM
It reads a little slow though, but fast enough to play music and vcds.
Post by: josh689 on June 12, 2004, 09:09:00 PM
Post by: blindgoat on June 17, 2004, 08:24:00 AM
Thanks for the help
Post by: CoolKidd on June 22, 2004, 08:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (blindgoat @ Jun 17 2004, 05:24 PM) |
| Sorry, I'm very new but when yall are playing the games straight off the dvd+r or cd-r, is this possible on an unmodded xbox? Or are these all on modded xboxes? Thanks for the help |
Nope... all they are talking about is modded XBox... You have to mod your box to be able to play backups
Post by: CoolKidd on June 22, 2004, 08:06:00 AM
Post by: Kain17 on June 29, 2004, 07:33:00 AM
I see you all talk about many kind of DVD drives, so I want to know, If I go to the store and buy an Xbox how can I see which drive it has? Cause you all say the Samsung drive is the best one.
Post by: UWerOwNED on June 29, 2004, 08:57:00 AM
Post by: MoeMan949222 on July 03, 2004, 04:55:00 PM
Post by: IrishUser on July 11, 2004, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: SUBLOGIC on July 11, 2004, 11:29:00 PM
It seems that "most" units made in 2002 have samsung drives. I have seen a samsung drive in an early 2003 unit aswell.
I look for "REFURBISHED" XBOX's' that were made in 2002 and have been refurbished by MS and purchase those at a cheaper price. At the moment, they are selling here in Australia for $161.
Most have Samsung drives, but i have had 2 that had Phillips drives, so obviously they had faulty Samsung drives and hence why they were refurbished.
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Post by: ronetone on July 12, 2004, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: xgo on July 29, 2004, 04:42:00 AM
Post by: RcbUK on July 31, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
Post by: XxFuRy2Xx on August 12, 2004, 12:41:00 AM
Anywho, I just burned an audio cd (File format: ogg vorbis, burn speed: 16x) and my samsung drive refuses to read it. Am I burning it too fast or something? Is there any specific brand that the samsung drive prefers? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Post by: manxbox44 on August 13, 2004, 07:36:00 PM
Post by: onlinebacon on September 02, 2004, 05:03:00 AM
Post by: Sekoku on September 07, 2004, 07:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (alpine2001 @ Jan 28 2003, 09:17 AM) |
| Get yourselves an x-box with a Samsung drive !!! They have only started using these drives since October 2002. It has read every type of CDR I have placed in it  |
I just got a new X-box today. (Long story short, Hurricane killed my v.1.1) has this drive. And, currently. I'm going to call this bull.
Of course, I've only tried one of my CD-R's (Memorex) in it, but still. It doesn't read everything
MFG: 07-16-04
Dunno if they changed since 2002 or what but my two cents.
Post by: alpine2001 on January 28, 2003, 12:14:00 AM
They have only started using these drives since October 2002.
It has read every type of CDR I have placed in it
NOTE: Not all x-box's manufacted in October use the Samsung drive
I have found most manufactured on the 5th and 15th to be Samsung though.
Still, it's pot luck.
How can you tell it's a Samsung ???
You can tell it is a Samsung drive when you open the tray.
It has two extra holes in the tray about the size of a thumb width.
Post by: fiveseven on September 21, 2004, 11:13:00 PM
Post by: antny on September 27, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (RcbUK @ Jul 31 2004, 05:06 PM) |
| I'm not reading through all of these posts, but I can tell you the first one is BS! I play backups on CD, no point in wasting a DVD when it fits easy on a CD |
I agree, I've burned a couple of games to CD-R and played them successfully. Although the only problem is sometimes the drive doesn't pick up the track and thinks there is no disk but usually works 1/3 boots.
Post by: __chrille on March 30, 2003, 03:59:00 AM
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Post by: Tiros on April 07, 2003, 10:35:00 AM
http://www.xboxhacker.net/forums/index.php...=ST&f=7&t=10613
Post by: fathazza on April 15, 2003, 09:04:00 PM
Post by: SarinV83 on April 18, 2003, 01:50:00 PM
Help me, I am nOOb!
Post by: upup on April 22, 2003, 10:01:00 AM
Post by: Fire on May 05, 2003, 01:24:00 AM
its like u won the tatslotto
Post by: sableholic on May 10, 2003, 08:58:00 AM
Post by: Helios on May 17, 2003, 07:38:00 AM
Post by: nitronutter on May 19, 2003, 01:13:00 AM
seems to be a samsung drive had the samsung grooves on the case (i noticed that when my local modder stripped the box
also has the 2 thumbholes in the tray
tested old 12x infiniti and 12x verbatamin cdr-audio
burnt evolutionxv1_8_458_iso onto a new 48x infiniti cdr and the xbox booted that fine
also ftp'd into the box to verify /d was readable and it was
Post by: Darkness2003 on May 27, 2003, 11:24:00 PM
Download latest nero burning software. choose udf/iso en there is a special xbox button "force DVD-Video compatibility mode (required for xbox TM)" then burn a game or divx file en play you DVD or CDR.
Post by: jackyl_816 on May 31, 2003, 05:11:00 PM
| QUOTE (jackyl_816 @ Oct 21 2002, 10:33 PM) |
| No,almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r,all backups must be burned to a cdr-w or dvd-r or dvd-rw,also some dvd+r media works as well. Games can be burned to a cd-r,but must be recopied to one of the above media types in order to play. |
ok..at the time of my original post, we was on the 1st generation of xbox.... and almost none of them would read cd-r's.... now they are shipping with different brand dvd drives,and people are having great success with cd-r's.... this is wonderful..... so everyone should atleast play around with a couple different brands of cd-r and hope that it works.... chances are if you have a newly purchased xbox,you will be OK!!!!!
PEACE OUT!!!!!!
Post by: gundamhr on June 10, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
Post by: west17m on June 12, 2003, 07:47:00 AM
| QUOTE (jackyl_816 @ May 31 2003, 08:11 PM) |
| ok..at the time of my original post, we was on the 1st generation of xbox.... and almost none of them would read cd-r's.... now they are shipping with different brand dvd drives,and people are having great success with cd-r's.... this is wonderful..... so everyone should atleast play around with a couple different brands of cd-r and hope that it works.... chances are if you have a newly purchased xbox,you will be OK!!!!! |
Just to throw a wrench in the works, I "settled" for a Phillips 1.0 system and found it to work fine any any CD-R media that wasn't blue.
I helped a friend mod his 1.1 Samsung and it wouldn't read hardly anything (including DVD-r's, and rw's).
(Oh, and yes, I only burn at 2x ... although the phillips still reads at a 6x burn)
Post by: psxguy on June 24, 2003, 09:23:00 AM
Post by: Xeero on June 24, 2003, 07:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (psxguy @ Jun 24 2003, 01:23 PM) |
| If you have a phillips drive and you wanna get it to read any CD-R, just tweak the pot a bit. It was easier for me to remove the top of my phillips drive and turn the pot 1/4 of the way (and it reads everything I throw at it) than tearing up a PC-DvD-Rom, and cutting up my case to make it fit, etc. And I pot tweaked several phillips drives and they are still going strong. |
To those wondering if they should tweak their pot: if you are at all familiar with tweaking PS2 drives, you should know that the Xbox drives are constructed with much higher-quality components. As long as you take caution in tweaking the potentiometer, you're far less likely to damage the drive than you would be with a PS2 drive.
Post by: HumanClay on June 25, 2003, 06:39:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| There probably will never be any games that can fit themselves on a single CD. |
There are many a game that fit on a single cd, for instance Monopoly Party, The Sims, Smashing Drive.
| QUOTE |
| OK i have put in CD-R media on my xbox and it plays sweet but if i can run CD-R music cds can i run CD-R data? and if so what kind of data? only stuff that is compatible with the Xbox? |
Why would it play something that is not compatible with the Xbox?! lol
Post by: da_shiznit on June 29, 2003, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: jackyl_816 on October 21, 2002, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: XanTium on October 22, 2002, 07:32:00 AM
If you install a PC DVD/CD-ROM drive to your xbox you can read almost all media.
Here's the tutorial : http://www.xbox-scene.com/articles/dvddrive.php
Post by: jackyl_816 on October 22, 2002, 10:27:00 AM
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Post by: HSDEMONZ on November 10, 2002, 09:20:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| almost none of the Xbox consoles will read a backup on a cd-r |
Is simply not true. Many will NOT read CDR.. but many WILL. There are no numbers to support that claim. Modded XBOX's purchased at XBOX launch, and ones purchase last week part of the new SEGA Pack have both had some success at reading CDR.
Don't discourage people from trying. The Low Cost may outweigh the slight, and sometimes slower load time of the CDR burn.
Post by: fgrhehghej on September 09, 2003, 01:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (00XeRo @ Aug 22 2003, 07:48 AM) |
| what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR. Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right? |
Well, it's probably more in the vicinity of 1.5g. There are some that are bigger. There are also some that a way smaller, though. And, then there's techniques like downsampling or ripping, of course. #
And for the record: even (some) non-modified, stock Philips drives can play (some) CD-Rs. You just need to experiment a bit; also be sure to know exactly what media you're testing. Trying rebranded stuff that is based on the same dye probably won't help too much.
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Post by: Gh3ttoRoM3o on October 07, 2003, 02:00:00 PM
| QUOTE (00XeRo @ Aug 22 2003, 06:48 AM) |
| what I don't understand is how you actually get the game to fit on the CDR. Most games are what, 3-4 gigabytes, right? |
nope they really range.
Crazy Taxi High Roller for instancewill fit on a CDR.
Post by: Gh3ttoRoM3o on October 07, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
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