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Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 02, 2012, 04:03:00 PM
Hi. I have 1.2 Xbox. I wanted to flash the TSOP. I used EvolutionX and 256kB BIOS Evox. I don't know what I did wrong, but actually console is fragging.

Is there a possibility to repair it instead of mounting a modchip to rest of console life?



This post has been edited by MrMajst3r: Mar 3 2012, 12:17 AM
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: AZImmortal on March 02, 2012, 05:04:00 PM
There's a thread three down from yours that you've already posted in...

You can also use a 29 wire modchip

This post has been edited by AZImmortal: Mar 3 2012, 01:06 AM
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: shambles1980 on March 02, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
guess you could go ahead and try the 3 wire trick. just in case you have a 1mb bios but im prety sure a 1.2 has 256k.
then as mentioned you have the 29 wire junk. Horrible ammount of tedious soldering job,
or the semi possible hot swap chip with the tsop bios, which a tutorial exists for right here on the foum,

apart from that just dump a chip on the lpc and call it a day.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: AZImmortal on March 02, 2012, 10:26:00 PM
1.2 = 256kb, so no three wire trick.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 04, 2012, 06:26:00 AM
Maybe I manage to get an old 29-wire chip. Is it difficult to solder it?
If I solder it, I will be able to flash TSOP? Or the operation will be more complicated?
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: xboxmods2977 on March 04, 2012, 10:53:00 AM
Personally, I think the 29-wire is easier than what a TSOP transplant would be. I have performed/overseen many 29-wire (homebrew) modchip installs. They are fairly easy to (make and) install, as long as you can solder well.

EDIT:Yes, you can use it to repair the TSOP.

This post has been edited by xboxmods2977: Mar 4 2012, 06:54 PM
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 04, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
Is the smallest one a 29-wire chip?
Or this green one?
(IMG:http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/4430270700_1330882161_thumb.jpg)

I can get one of it for free as a refund.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: shambles1980 on March 04, 2012, 02:28:00 PM
the green one looks like an enigma. i think thats a 29 wire piece of junk lol..
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: xboxmods2977 on March 05, 2012, 01:22:00 AM
The one in the pic with the little sticker that says "M8" is a 29-wire.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: shambles1980 on March 05, 2012, 06:15:00 AM
I love how haggard that chip looks lol.
Could those legs be any more bent and not be snaped off?
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 05, 2012, 07:58:00 AM
Guy who has this modchips remove the label. Modchip looks like this
http://www.system-il.com/images/JPG/chip/e..._27C256_32K.jpg

I hope removing the label has not affect on BIOS?
Is this correct diagram for it?
http://www.xbox-scene.com/modchips/ownmod_diagrams.html


Fortunatelly, I get an original DuoX2 today. So maybe I will be able to repair it using tutorial.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: xboxmods2977 on March 05, 2012, 10:32:00 AM
QUOTE(shambles1980 @ Mar 5 2012, 02:15 PM) View Post

I love how haggard that chip looks lol.
Could those legs be any more bent and not be snaped off?

Those mangled looking things in the picture are not the chip legs. They are nubs of wire. Apparently, this is a picture of a 29 wire that has been cut out of an xbox just prior to having its picture taken. I wouldn't buy that chip. The legs appear to have been trimmed also, so it would be impossible to socket that chip.

And yes, to answer your question shambles. The legs on those chips are very fragile. One or 2 bends max and they will break off right at the chip, rendering it useless.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 06, 2012, 11:34:00 AM
Yes, modchiip has legs with cutted cables.
(IMG:http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/6765490100_1331055103_thumb.jpg) (IMG:http://obrazki.elektroda.pl/2517206700_1331055105_thumb.jpg)

Is there a possibility to home-made a modchip like this? But I have not any programmer.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: Movax on March 06, 2012, 06:58:00 PM
You should be able to use an old bios chip from a old PC - and possibly flash it on the PC as well.

You would need two EEPROM bios chips unless you can get it right the first time.

Boot the PC (DOS boot disk) and hotswap the EEPROM and use the PC utility to flash the BIOS. It may or may not let you use the xbox bios image file. If it screws up turn off the PC and try again....

The EPROM you have pictured needs to be erased via ultraviolet light and a high(er) voltage programmer, so go with an EEPROM.

Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: xboxmods2977 on March 07, 2012, 08:39:00 AM
QUOTE(Movax @ Mar 7 2012, 02:58 AM) View Post

You should be able to use an old bios chip from a old PC - and possibly flash it on the PC as well.
I would just like to add confirmation. This does work. I have done many.

QUOTE(Movax @ Mar 7 2012, 02:58 AM) View Post

It may or may not let you use the xbox bios image file. If it screws up turn off the PC and try again....
Using Uniflash, you can flash any bios file, regardless of whether it is for Xbox or PC.

As an added confirmation measure: Flash the chip with the bios of your choice, and before you exit the program, use uniflash to "backup" the chip. Then open the "backup.bin" in xbtool or similar program to confirm that the bios was read from floppy/written to the chip properly.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 09, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
I tried today about fifty times to boot Xbox with tsop_d6 on DuoX2. Only once I got blue logo and Evox loaded. But I wasn't able to flash TSOP, i got message "flash not writeable".
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: Movax on March 09, 2012, 01:43:00 PM
Sounds like bad soldering.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 13, 2012, 07:55:00 AM
I have 1.1 motherboard with dual-bios. Can I desolder the tsop and solder it on 1.2 mobo? Is there points A19 for dual-bios too?
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: AZImmortal on March 13, 2012, 01:36:00 PM
QUOTE(MrMajst3r @ Mar 9 2012, 12:18 PM) View Post

I tried today about fifty times to boot Xbox with tsop_d6 on DuoX2. Only once I got blue logo and Evox loaded. But I wasn't able to flash TSOP, i got message "flash not writeable".

You're sure that your TSOP write points are properly bridged?  Regarding transplanting your TSOP, the 1.1 TSOP is 1mb and the 1.2 TSOP is 256kb, so the answer is pretty clearly no, but honestly, even if you could do it, that's a lot of trouble when you can just buy a cheap modchip and have a perfectly fine working console.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 13, 2012, 02:17:00 PM
Bridges are good. I tested it with a multimeter following by this http://img.photobuck...OP/points12.jpg
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: AZImmortal on March 13, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
Assuming your bridges are indeed good, then make sure that your evox.ini contains your flash ID.  You can get a comprehensive list of flash IDs from the evox.ini in HeXEn.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 14, 2012, 09:18:00 AM
I think flasher isn't a problem. Rather this metod is not working in every case of corrupted TSOP. Maybe i will try with 1/2 gen modchip or eventually i put in console LPC modchip.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 24, 2012, 06:12:00 AM
Hi again. And again the same question. Can I use this modchip to repair a TSOP?
IPB Image
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: Heimdall on March 24, 2012, 06:30:00 AM
No. That's a standard LPC chip. You need a 29 wire chip, one that sits (logically) on top of the TSOP, not one that connects via the LPC.

The TSOP_D6 BIOS method works on 1.2 Xboxes. Testing with a multimeter doesn't guarantee that your TSOP bridge soldering is good. Remove the solder, clean the pads (scrape very gently with a craft knife), and use lots of flux when you resolder.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 31, 2012, 06:30:00 AM
Hi Heimdall.

I resolder the bridges, checked it with a multimeter via lines on picture.
I boot console from tsop_d6 and run your great installer (HEXEN).

I tried to flash with Evox, but I still get "flash not writeable".

I can resolder it again, but, there is any chance that is a problem with soldering?
Maybe the TSOP is broken?

Is there any sens to try with 1gen modchip?

I remember, that when I want to flash it first time (when it works), I made bridges, and in EvolutionX in most of bioses I get "bad bios file" or something like this. Only on some kind of Evox M8 or M7 it flashed TSOP, and now it is corrupt...

Oh, I remember also that EvolutionX seen TSOP as Winbound, but it is Hynix.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: Heimdall on March 31, 2012, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(MrMajst3r @ Mar 31 2012, 01:30 PM) View Post
Oh, I remember also that EvolutionX seen TSOP as Winbound, but it is Hynix.

That almost certainly means that the soldering still isn't right. What is the error message when you try to flash?

Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: shambles1980 on March 31, 2012, 01:11:00 PM
i never saw a hynix tsop chip on a 1.2 before.. (live and learn i guess lol)
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on March 31, 2012, 01:42:00 PM
EvolutionX saw Hynix as Winbound at the first time, when I broke TSOP... Now, it says "flash not writeable".

I can give you a photo of TSOP and screen from HEXEN with info that it's Xbox 1.2 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: Heimdall on April 01, 2012, 06:42:00 AM
QUOTE(MrMajst3r @ Mar 31 2012, 08:42 PM) View Post

EvolutionX saw Hynix as Winbound at the first time

It's Winbond, not Winbound, and I can guarantee you that whatever it said on the screen the chip hasn't changed. It was reading from an incorrect Evox config file, one that was written by an idiot about 10 years ago, that incorrectly put the text about Winbond against the error code 0x0900. 0x0900 means chip not writeable, and in HeXEn I fixed the text so it now tells you something that is correct and useful.

QUOTE(MrMajst3r @ Mar 31 2012, 08:42 PM) View Post
I can give you a photo of TSOP and screen from HEXEN with info that it's Xbox 1.2 smile.gif


HeXEn uses UnleashX, so the identification of the Xbox as a 1.2 is only as good as the UnleashX detection routines.  I've never known them be wrong, but the only guaranteed way to identify the Xbox version is to use one of the walkthroughs where you look at the video chip, the PSU etc.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on April 01, 2012, 10:44:00 AM
I read again all the topic about fixing TSOP with DuoX2 and tsop_d6.bin and there were another people who can't flash the TSOP with blue and white X logo. I think I will try with 29-wire chip, but for a few weeks, when I will have more time. I have a few more questions about it, I will add new topic before I start smile.gif Thanks for your help.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: shambles1980 on April 01, 2012, 11:12:00 AM
can you please take a picture of the whole motherboard of the xbox please..

I know you say its a 1.2.. But if your getting that info from unleash-x i would really prefer to know if it really is a 1.2
I have only seen a hynix chip on earlier boxes and thought they were 1Mb. "i could be wrong"

But it would be good if you could at the least take a picture of the whole motherboard including the power supply. where the game ports plug in, the tsop chip, and the chip thats nearest where the AV cable plugs in.
Title: Xbox 1.2 Corrupted Tsop
Post by: MrMajst3r on April 01, 2012, 02:02:00 PM
OK, i will give you photos smile.gif
But it has Conexant video encoder, and PSU with ATX connector. TSOP is smaller than in 1.0/1.1.