Post by: sp1200 on March 18, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: GodCoolin on March 18, 2004, 01:54:00 PM
No Do mark
No cap X in ozxodus
blue switch
cheap led
gold solder points
they were listed as a xenium official dealer as well!!!!!!!!
I thought I was safe going through them, I just hope the didnt know they were fakes and willing to fix their mistake.
Post by: rahula on March 18, 2004, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: sp1200 on March 18, 2004, 02:17:00 PM
Post by: rahula on March 18, 2004, 02:26:00 PM
Post by: xBaNaNaEv0LuTiOnx on March 18, 2004, 04:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (sp1200 @ Mar 19 2004, 12:17 AM) |
| but if they are listed as an official reseller, then thats wierd that they have clones... |
according to the ozxodus site (www.ozxodus.com), i do not see them listed anywhere as an official reseller. only divineo, modwiz, and modchipman. correct me if i'm wrong.
Post by: Relayer on March 18, 2004, 04:08:00 PM
Looks like the fakes are not as reliable as the cloners want everyone to beleive!
If it was me and i was sold it as a Real Xenium and they wont give you a real one then I would be contacting your credit card company for a Fraud Reversal.
Post by: GodCoolin on March 18, 2004, 04:38:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 18, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
Problem include LAG, BAD MEMORY, and STUTTERING BOOTS. Fitting a real Xenium fixed all of these issues.
Anyone who suspects they have a fake.. RMA it and get you money back. They buy only from one of the listed official resellers lists on www.OZXODUS.COM site.
Saving a few bucks is not worth this headache. Avoid the FAKES.
Post by: Cargasm on March 18, 2004, 05:40:00 PM
Post by: master enolc on March 18, 2004, 10:02:00 PM
I thought this whole forum was for factual stuff not just bullshit from a few lame people who won't earn money from the clone chips etc.
This situation has turned everything on its head as these chips seem to be 100% working etc and even better quality than the offical ones.
The gold plating shows how much thought has gone into these as the pcb quality is much better than the offical one(i have the offical one here as well).
I am happy to do a full review on the forum and give a totaly unbiased approach to the these!
1. tested on on v1.4 xbox
2. fitted chip using the LPC pin header adaptor,LED working to show its fitted OK!
3. Came with os 1.0 so i upgraded using the official os 1.1,upgraded fine with no(LAG! lol).
4. burned bios cd's as stated on the Ozoxdus site(ev0xd7 and xecuter2).
5. Loaded both bios's onto the chip without any problems(256m versions).
6. Selected xecuter2 bios to use and then booted new james bond game(a real favourite of mine!).
7. Game loaded without stutter etc(maybe this guy had a shagged disc or loader as its a common xbox problem).
8. Played the game for around 2 hours without a problem,got up this morning and loaded it up again without any problems.
9. Very happy and saved a few $$$'s!
10. Still have the offical chip here and will use it in another xbox my friend has!
Post by: LepPpeR on March 18, 2004, 10:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (master enolc @ Mar 19 2004, 03:02 AM) |
| There seems to be some major panicing in the Ozxdous camp right now,it will be good to see the feed back from genuine people that have the clones and not just biased people that get free chips etc like the moderators here etc who will say what ever they feel and not just give the facts. I thought this whole forum was for factual stuff not just bullshit from a few lame people who won't earn money from the clone chips etc. This situation has turned everything on its head as these chips seem to be 100% working etc and even better quality than the offical ones. The gold plating shows how much thought has gone into these as the pcb quality is much better than the offical one(i have the offical one here as well). I am happy to do a full review on the forum and give a totaly unbiased approach to the these! 1. tested on on v1.4 xbox 2. fitted chip using the LPC pin header adaptor,LED working to show its fitted OK! 3. Came with os 1.0 so i upgraded using the official os 1.1,upgraded fine with no(LAG! lol). 4. burned bios cd's as stated on the Ozoxdus site(ev0xd7 and xecuter2). 5. Loaded both bios's onto the chip without any problems(256m versions). 6. Selected xecuter2 bios to use and then booted new james bond game(a real favourite of mine!). 7. Game loaded without stutter etc(maybe this guy had a shagged disc or loader as its a common xbox problem). 8. Played the game for around 2 hours without a problem,got up this morning and loaded it up again without any problems. 9. Very happy and saved a few $$$'s! 10. Still have the offical chip here and will use it in another xbox my friend has! |
Free Chips? I never got any
Post by: Josh Adams on March 18, 2004, 10:28:00 PM
sounds like he is trying to drum up some business.
rumours are getting around about who is really behind these clones and if they are true, all i can say is that i'm not suprised that the low-life fuck would stoop to cloning activities because he can't keep up with ozxodus himself.
Post by: greengiant on March 19, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 19, 2004, 01:55:00 AM
but really, people who buy these fakes will start blaming OzXodus for thier chip not working and thats bad....
can't OzXodus sue them or whatever because they are using the name xenium?
Post by: master enolc on March 19, 2004, 02:37:00 AM
Also the clones i have here have the same LEDS as the offical ones so i am not sure that there info is correct!
Post by: Artifex on March 19, 2004, 03:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (Cargasm @ Mar 19 2004, 03:40 AM) |
| The guys that run www.modchip.ca live right here in my city. I deal directly with them face to face and I just got off the phone with them. They said they were unaware of the fakes in their supply until now, and appropriate measures will be taken to remedy the problem. These guys are really nice and reputable and I highly doubt they will try and screw people over. |
It is nearly impossible that they were not aware they were getting fakes.
They had previously bought directly from OzXodus. It would be hard for them to claim that they honestly thought they were buying from us again when they bought the fake chips.
The simple fact of the matter: You were boldly and blatently ripped off.
--Artifex
Post by: Serious Sam on March 19, 2004, 05:06:00 AM
| QUOTE (Cargasm @ Mar 19 2004, 03:40 AM) |
| The guys that run www.modchip.ca live right here in my city. I deal directly with them face to face and I just got off the phone with them. They said they were unaware of the fakes in their supply until now, and appropriate measures will be taken to remedy the problem. These guys are really nice and reputable and I highly doubt they will try and screw people over. |
Dont believe that crap from modchip.ca.
Official resellers buy straight from OzXodus. If he has fakes in stock he most certainly knew that they were fakes and tried to sell them as originals.
It's obvious that they were trying to save $15 bucks a chip and pass these clones as real official Xeniums.
Saying that they didnt know they had fakes in stock is rediculous when infact modchip.ca went behind the wholesalers back and bought the clones from somewhere else.
Post by: Relayer on March 19, 2004, 05:53:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| No i think it will be other way round,people will be complaining that the offical chips are not working so well,i have some dud original chips here and the LEDS have burnt out. Also the clones i have here have the same LEDS as the offical ones so i am not sure that there info is correct! |
If the clones use the same leds as the original and they have burnt out whats to say the clones wont be doing the same???
From the pics i have seen some chips use hynix flashes where all the original's i have seen use amd how hard do u think this will be for Ozxodus to remove support for?
| QUOTE |
| I've both chips and all I can say is that the clones work 10% of the time. the led is bad quality and burned out after 2 hours because the resistance for it isn't right. another problem i encounter are the golden solderpads. they come off if heated to much. other than that the clones boot extremely unreliable. sometimes it works perfect and sometimes the animation stutters or the box hangs completely. ione of the clones stopped working after 2 days. all 5 of my original xeniums are working fine, boot 100% of the time and the led is still there after 3 weeks. |
Your not the only one Scan-C go read the ozxodus forums and quite a few have felt the sting of the inferior crap these peddlars are trying to passoff.
Master enolc or CLONE backwards seems this time the clones were not so mastery As Scan-C explained above and many other customers forums post testify to the attempts at cloning the xenium are not living up to the CLAIMS of superior quality and so forth how does it feel to have failed at your attempt at cloning LOL i guess its probably the 2nd failure as im inclined to think the attempt at cloning the xecutor 2's was your 1st.
I guess its back to the drawingboard hey Master Clone just hope the RMA dept can keep up.
Good to see Just Deserts are dished out this time round.
Post by: master enolc on March 19, 2004, 05:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (Scan-C @ Mar 19 2004, 02:29 PM) | ||
I've both chips and all I can say is that the clones work 10% of the time. the led is bad quality and burned out after 2 hours because the resistance for it isn't right. another problem i encounter are the golden solderpads. they come off if heated to much. other than that the clones boot extremely unreliable. sometimes it works perfect and sometimes the animation stutters or the box hangs completely. ione of the clones stopped working after 2 days. all 5 of my original xeniums are working fine, boot 100% of the time and the led is still there after 3 weeks. |
how can the LED resistance be the wrong type?
Please don't make yourself look stupid,you 100% don't have the chips and are just shouting your mouth off with bullshit!
I have some clones here with both types of LEDS on and they work fine,i will make a video later to show how well they work to put people minds to rest,also where did you purchase your chips from?
So many idiots will say they don't work etc and never even have a chip,its the usual stuff
Post by: master enolc on March 19, 2004, 06:10:00 AM
Next thing you will say is that they will remove support for chips with blue switches!
I have seen pics with AMD,MX,HYNIX,INTEL.
So the next thing will be that they will remove AMD support with a certain date code xxxx?
Did you have a chip in your hand?
I think you have your cock in your hand more likley!LOL
Post by: Relayer on March 19, 2004, 06:38:00 AM
I wouldnt touch the crap with a pole when i can get originals with support from the people who know enough about the chip to actuallyu develop it.
I think your the one with his hand on it.
Of the 30 Genuine Xeniums i have installed NONE has failed and all leds work perfectly and ALL had AMD flashroms.
And as far as remove support it was speculation as i just know how to install chips i dont profess to be any master i just know that many programs need a chips manufacture id to flash them and that id can be detected with many programs so i guess it would not be so hard for the genius's over at ozxodus to do something i guess the cloners loved theyre work enough to try and spin a buck off it, pity they failed will cost someone id say.
What would be these so many idiots motivation to say they had the chip and it was faulty????
I would beleive them before someone that professes's to be a master and is such a newb on these forums.
Get a life loser!
Post by: master enolc on March 19, 2004, 08:01:00 AM
| QUOTE (Relayer @ Mar 19 2004, 04:38 PM) |
| I am refering to posts on this forum and the ozxodus forum read the post and you will see that read the forums and you will see how many of these pieces of crap are failing. I wouldnt touch the crap with a pole when i can get originals with support from the people who know enough about the chip to actuallyu develop it. I think your the one with his hand on it. Of the 30 Genuine Xeniums i have installed NONE has failed and all leds work perfectly and ALL had AMD flashroms. And as far as remove support it was speculation as i just know how to install chips i dont profess to be any master i just know that many programs need a chips manufacture id to flash them and that id can be detected with many programs so i guess it would not be so hard for the genius's over at ozxodus to do something i guess the cloners loved theyre work enough to try and spin a buck off it, pity they failed will cost someone id say. What would be these so many idiots motivation to say they had the chip and it was faulty???? I would beleive them before someone that professes's to be a master and is such a newb on these forums. Get a life loser! |
You are just repeating other crap from else where which is what it seems a lot of people are doing here,you don't even have a clone chip do you,so how are you in a posistion to start commenting?
This other guy who says his LED burned out and its the wrong type etc also does'nt know his arse from his elbow as the LEDS are all the same,the visual out look is the same on one of these as the original,i did'nt say they were the same manufactuer!
I installed an offical Xenium and it stopped working after 2 hours as well,it fragged and then when it was working i got the games crashing etc.
So there you have it the offical chip was shagged!
Anyway lets see how many people actually get problems with the clones who have actually got one and not just repeating stuff they are reading else where.
Post by: techdata on March 19, 2004, 09:02:00 AM
| QUOTE (master enolc @ Mar 19 2004, 06:01 PM) | ||
You are just repeating other crap from else where which is what it seems a lot of people are doing here,you don't even have a clone chip do you,so how are you in a posistion to start commenting? This other guy who says his LED burned out and its the wrong type etc also does'nt know his arse from his elbow as the LEDS are all the same,the visual out look is the same on one of these as the original,i did'nt say they were the same manufactuer! I installed an offical Xenium and it stopped working after 2 hours as well,it fragged and then when it was working i got the games crashing etc. So there you have it the offical chip was shagged! Anyway lets see how many people actually get problems with the clones who have actually got one and not just repeating stuff they are reading else where. |
u are lame...
why would u even support the fact of clones?
are you making them? or selling them?
u stink from a mile away
Post by: Scan-C on March 19, 2004, 09:58:00 AM
anyway, voltages for smd leds are a really hard thing to discuss. some manufacturers, such as kingbright, have high quality leds which will survive 1,5 v more than it really needs, but others.... look the clone xeniums
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
We got the n00b culprit! I always wanted to see someone get banned...until someone tried to get me banned....
BAN HIM! He does ot deserve to have the name of XENIUM in his xbox..he should not even hav a xbox.
Post by: heinrich on March 19, 2004, 10:26:00 AM
You are a moron. No matter how well you claim they work, they are NOT xeniums from ozxodus. The people selling them are commiting FRAUD. If they want to sell them as "xenium clones", then buyer beware, and that is for others to persue, but selling them as "xeniums" is just plain wrong, no matter how well they work.
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 10:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (heinrich @ Mar 19 2004, 08:26 PM) |
| 'master enolc', You are a moron. No matter how well you claim they work, they are NOT xeniums from ozxodus. The people selling them are commiting FRAUD. If they want to sell them as "xenium clones", then buyer beware, and that is for others to persue, but selling them as "xeniums" is just plain wrong, no matter how well they work. |
WORD! You just got teabag pwn3d! lol sorry...to much R63!
Anyways.. someone should have a word with HSDEMONZ here about our little clone faced friend!
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
I did post on the quality of the chips. They are buggered. 2/3 failure rate. As for SMARTXX.. it's true.. I had no samples.. I got to buy them the old fashioned way. A review of them working from me wasn't necessary.. as I already posted Xantiums review of them.. which echoes any and all of my concerns. The Ones I had worked fine. Nothing odd about those chips.. just ended up having to sell them in buck at just above cost to offload them due to lack of customer interest and cancel SMARTxx orders. Otherwise.. they were fine.
Post by: exobyte on March 19, 2004, 10:43:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| and other respectible places like xbox-wired. The complete list is on the site at: http://www.ozxodus.c...=viewlink&cid=1 |
I ordered my Xenium a few weeks after it came out from xbox-wired. I wish they still were on the up-front official seller list, but they're on the long one. Other than the early OS bugs, mine is fine and it has silver solder pads and a big X, so I'm happy. Just though I'd let people know about a good expierence.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
Do not POST FAKE or CLONE shit in this forum. I won't argue whether they are higher quality this or that.. cause it doesn't matter when there are problems with them.
Temp Close
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 19 2004, 02:44 AM) |
| HSDEMONZ, maybe you can take some HIGH RES pics of one of the fakes, and of a legit chip and put them in your archive gallery there? |
I was one of the first to receive a clone.. and forwarded what I had to the OZX guys to have them verify them.
When I get them back.. I'll gladly post some monster size pics.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:52:00 AM
| QUOTE (master enolc @ Mar 19 2004, 03:02 AM) |
| There seems to be some major panicing in the Ozxdous camp right now,it will be good to see the feed back from genuine people that have the clones and not just biased people that get free chips etc like the moderators here etc who will say what ever they feel and not just give the facts. I thought this whole forum was for factual stuff not just bullshit from a few lame people who won't earn money from the clone chips etc. This situation has turned everything on its head as these chips seem to be 100% working etc and even better quality than the offical ones. The gold plating shows how much thought has gone into these as the pcb quality is much better than the offical one(i have the offical one here as well). I am happy to do a full review on the forum and give a totaly unbiased approach to the these! 1. tested on on v1.4 xbox 2. fitted chip using the LPC pin header adaptor,LED working to show its fitted OK! 3. Came with os 1.0 so i upgraded using the official os 1.1,upgraded fine with no(LAG! lol). 4. burned bios cd's as stated on the Ozoxdus site(ev0xd7 and xecuter2). 5. Loaded both bios's onto the chip without any problems(256m versions). 6. Selected xecuter2 bios to use and then booted new james bond game(a real favourite of mine!). 7. Game loaded without stutter etc(maybe this guy had a shagged disc or loader as its a common xbox problem). 8. Played the game for around 2 hours without a problem,got up this morning and loaded it up again without any problems. 9. Very happy and saved a few $$$'s! 10. Still have the offical chip here and will use it in another xbox my friend has! |
I'm glad your chip appears to work fine. I had 3 chips.. and none worked 100%. 2 of which were HORRIBLE.
I've got a few more of these WONDERFUL gold plated fakes coming.. we'll see how they end up.
BTW.. I've used just about every chip on the market.. and make money on all of them. My problem with FAKES and CLONES.. is that there is no support for them. Since they are not made by OZXodus,, if I have a problem.. they won't help.. since it isn't their chip. My customers feel the same way.
They want chips.. knowing someone will be there to help them. Not save 5$ and get screwed when things don't work.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 19 2004, 03:07 AM) |
Why are posts being removed?  I am 110% sure that master enolc posted just before I did. |
not sure.. as I just got in.. but it could be because all the mods were told that CLONE CHIP or FAKE CHIP POSTS,, REVIEWS, or SPAM/ADS have no place in any forum on XS.
These aren'y XENIUM Chips.. and this is an Unofficial Xenium Support forum. Come here to post and discuss the real chip from the real manufacturers.
Same with our Xecuter forum. People selling Clones.. and posting there.. will find their posts removed. (and accounts removed as well.)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 10:58:00 AM
| QUOTE (cool_guy @ Mar 19 2004, 03:14 AM) |
| LepPpeR, you also are not posting on the quality of the chips. And as we all know, because HSDEMONZ posted it in the smartxx forum, he has gotten free samples from ozxodus, xecuter, and others. (just not smartxx, and certainly not from the 'cloners') |
| QUOTE |
| LepPpeR, you also are not posting on the quality of the chips. And as we all know, because HSDEMONZ posted it in the smartxx forum, he has gotten free samples from ozxodus, xecuter, and others. (just not smartxx, and certainly not from the 'cloners') |
.. actually.. a birdie got me samples of the clones in the xecuter situation.. and in this one as well.
Worse.. there might be a suspected SMARTxx clone.. I should know next week.
You'd be surprised what comes my way. So don't make assumptions.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 11:19:00 AM
So.. if you have a FAKE or CLONE of an Xenium.. then by all means.. contact the person whoe sold it to you.. and get your money back. If they refuse... and you used a credit card.. contact them (espceially VISA) and report a fraudulant sale.. they are excellent about reversing charges.
Do not accept shops that say "we did not know"... because they know exactly who they bought from. Just like in the Xecuter CLones last XMAS.
There is only one way you paying for a CLONE or FAKE is acceptable.. and that is if the shop in question listed it as FAKE XENIUM or CLONE XENIUM for sale $x.xx
If they didn't do that.. then they blatantly ripped you off.. passing off their chip for an authentic chip.
It really doesn't matter if the FAKE has gold contacts... if the chip has a high failure rate. It doesn't matter whether or not the PCB is "higher quality" than a stock XENIUM.. It doesn't matte that they claim their buggered LED is good enough.. when clearly they burn out.
If you bought a FAKE XENIUM and it was not listed as a FAKE XENIUM.. you got ripped off.. and deserve a full refund. Not an Exchange.. a refund.
Furthermore.. as I previously stated.. XS is not the place to promote sales of FAKE or CLONE chips in the forums. We have no CLONE of FAKE chip forum.. so there will be no discussion supporting those chips. (and definitely no more bums with clear ties to the cloners pumping threads with slaes pitches that are designed to drive up sales of what is clearly BAD CLONE CHIPS.)
Buyer Beware. Caveat Emptor.
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 11:37:00 AM
I have a feeling we should pin a 'This is not a clone forum". thingy if we do not already have one in here...
Thanks HS, we are now Clone Aware....
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
good idea.Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 11:51:00 AM
No prob!I guess this subject is over with... until Clone Man comes back and decides to kill the Xenium forum with more Clone crap.
Now to rape the Xbox Media Center with another "No
sound on my divx movies."
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on March 19, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 01:06:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 01:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (GodCoolin @ Mar 19 2004, 04:52 PM) |
| If you bought a Xenium and were given a fake thats fraud... |
YUP. Pure and simple.
If they are proud of their chip.. lable it properly. They don't.. cause they know there are problems with it.
As for support.. you are correct.. no forum on XS for clone/fake chip support.
Contact the sellers. (then listen to the lies, misdirection that will follow.. )
Post by: Josh Adams on March 19, 2004, 02:42:00 PM
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 03:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (master enolc @ Mar 19 2004, 08:02 AM) |
| There seems to be some major panicing in the Ozxdous camp right now,it will be good to see the feed back from genuine people that have the clones and not just biased people that get free chips etc like the moderators here etc who will say what ever they feel and not just give the facts. I thought this whole forum was for factual stuff not just bullshit from a few lame people who won't earn money from the clone chips etc. This situation has turned everything on its head as these chips seem to be 100% working etc and even better quality than the offical ones. The gold plating shows how much thought has gone into these as the pcb quality is much better than the offical one(i have the offical one here as well). I am happy to do a full review on the forum and give a totaly unbiased approach to the these! 1. tested on on v1.4 xbox 2. fitted chip using the LPC pin header adaptor,LED working to show its fitted OK! 3. Came with os 1.0 so i upgraded using the official os 1.1,upgraded fine with no(LAG! lol). 4. burned bios cd's as stated on the Ozoxdus site(ev0xd7 and xecuter2). 5. Loaded both bios's onto the chip without any problems(256m versions). 6. Selected xecuter2 bios to use and then booted new james bond game(a real favourite of mine!). 7. Game loaded without stutter etc(maybe this guy had a shagged disc or loader as its a common xbox problem). 8. Played the game for around 2 hours without a problem,got up this morning and loaded it up again without any problems. 9. Very happy and saved a few $$$'s! 10. Still have the offical chip here and will use it in another xbox my friend has! |
LOL, hey scan-c post pics as soon as you can so HSDEMONZ can show people in the news section what a so called "100%" WORKING Xenium Clone is like!
How pathetic, the "Cloner" can't even make good clones(Really I don't know why I am criticizing being that I do not know how to code in anything if my life depended on it.... Why, why are there no good tuts on how to learn C, or anything else for that matter
)Anyways, does the Burned out clone have any obvious signs of its crappy making(Melted marks crispy corners, anything?)
Post by: Josh Adams on March 19, 2004, 03:45:00 PM
me again, i think this master enolc should be banned considering that his activities are blatantly illegal.
it's fraud, theft, trademark infringement and probably a whole lot of other things.
i call on the staff of xbox-scene to lead by example on this matter and show the scene that we will not accept such illegal activites, ban master enolc and any future clone producer. simply not adding a support forum for clones is not a strong enough stance on an issue like this in my opinion.
considering that the cloners are harming the legitimate teams who contribute enormously to the scene as well as acting illegally i do not think that this request is too extravagent.
without teams like ozxodus developing new technology this scene wouldn't be as much fun as it is and this website certainly wouldnt be what it is.
all those in favour of kicking the cloners out say "I"
Post by: Josh Adams on March 19, 2004, 03:56:00 PM
Post by: Gman22 on March 19, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (Josh Adams @ Mar 19 2004, 07:45 PM) |
| ... i call on the staff of xbox-scene to lead by example on this matter and show the scene that we will not accept such illegal activites, ban master enolc and any future clone producer. simply not adding a support forum for clones is not a strong enough stance on an issue like this in my opinion. considering that the cloners are harming the legitimate teams who contribute enormously to the scene as well as acting illegally i do not think that this request is too extravagent. ... |
He was banned over 4 hours before you posted this, and i agree with what you said, this guy obviously isnt smart, first, he come up with the name "Master Clone", secondly, he cant even , if he did, make a propper clone...some people will never learn, and there only out there to make money
kinda reminds me of the insurance scam thats going around, people are paid to have surgery done on them or something like that...ill find a link in a while
edit: heres a link
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 06:17:00 PM
| QUOTE (Josh Adams @ Mar 20 2004, 01:45 AM) |
| attention: xbox-scene staff me again, i think this master enolc should be banned considering that his activities are blatantly illegal. it's fraud, theft, trademark infringement and probably a whole lot of other things. i call on the staff of xbox-scene to lead by example on this matter and show the scene that we will not accept such illegal activites, ban master enolc and any future clone producer. simply not adding a support forum for clones is not a strong enough stance on an issue like this in my opinion. considering that the cloners are harming the legitimate teams who contribute enormously to the scene as well as acting illegally i do not think that this request is too extravagent. without teams like ozxodus developing new technology this scene wouldn't be as much fun as it is and this website certainly wouldnt be what it is. all those in favour of kicking the cloners out say "I" |
Lol, OMFG...........
And, uh...who are you?!
Listen to him "let me call upon the xbox staff to set examples"....
This is not some sort of summoning man...
If mods, or Admins feel they need to do something they will!
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 19, 2004, 06:19:00 PM
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 07:22:00 PM
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 19, 2004, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 20, 2004, 12:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Ritchie @ Mar 20 2004, 12:14 AM) |
| Once more: I am not yet blaming the supplier for knowingly passing fakes, he *may* have been duped, just like me. If he does not supply a genuine replacement, then it is obvious that he is wilfully passing fakes. -Ritchie. |
No one has been unwittingly duped. People who want to resell proper XENIUM chips know where and how to buy them. If they buy from outside those sources.. then they are buying knowing they aren't Genuine.
What's worse.. they sold them to YOU as if they were GENIUNE. That's FRAUD.
Don't ask for an exchange.. get your money back.. and get your chip from an authorized reseller currently list on the manufacturers website.
Otherwise.. you are telling clone sellers that it is okay.. that you are willing to take it up the ass.. and that you are willing to wait before enjoying your investment.
I just hope you haven't had and permanent damage done by having that FAKE chip in your unit. As you know by now.. many have.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 20, 2004, 12:07:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| People blatantly posting and promoting these chips.. including ads, spam, reviews designed to pump sales will find their posting privs removed and likely their accounts suspended. |
His post was in the spirit of helping people not make the mistakes he made.. and further alerting the scene to the epidemic of systemic failures associated with these FAKE chips. It's appropaite. He's not asking for help or support. He knows the situation NOW.
Hopefully.. he gets his money back.. and a proper chip.
Wannabie mods.. leave the moderating to the moderators.
We expect many more posts from people complaining and pointing fingers at the FAKE/CLONE sellers.. after-all the chips are garbage. Most of these posts will be acceptable.. as long as they aren't asking for help/support.. since there really is nothing anyone can do but tell them to get their money back ASAP.
People selling CLONES.. are not exactly the most reputable people on the planet.
The posts we want to discourage.. are the clowns who will spam, hype, and decieve, and misdirect members into buying these cruddy chips.. and lie about "superior" materials they claim theu used in them.
Funny.. Superior in my book means a chip must WORK.. and not damage XBOX hardware.
Good solder spots.. and their "superior" PCB don't replace the fact the chips are garbage.. have bad solder joints.. bad or poor LEDS that burn out.. and as a whole may cause damage to your XBOX. (this isn't USER/INSTALLER error.. this is FAKE/CLONE BS)
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 20, 2004, 12:19:00 AM
Post by: Josh Adams on March 20, 2004, 03:01:00 AM
can you tell us what modchip.ca's response has been so far?
Post by: greengiant on March 20, 2004, 03:37:00 AM
so much commotion over a xenium chip. but yet no one cried foul when alladin and akira and all those others copied off the xecuter 1 design and code.
Post by: xmods.ca on March 20, 2004, 04:14:00 AM
We just read through this thread in its intirety, and we are VERY UPSET that this TOMMY character comes on here and IMPLIES WE are selling CLONE Xenium chips, Im sorry but we are ONLY CARRYING THE ORIGINAL XENIUM CHIPS and HAVE NEVER SOLD A CLONE SINCE OUR FIRST DAY OF BUSINESS!!!
That character TOMMY had a hard drive deal with us and NEVER FAILED to come through on his part of the deal, so coming ONTO this forum and STATING UNTRUE FACTS UPSETS US, WE GAVE YOU NOTHING BUT OVER THE TOP CUSTOMER SERVICE, SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD GROW UP!!
We are NOT IN SUPPORT of the clone issue at hand and WILL NEVER sell a clone to any of our customers our Number 1 priority is that the customer GET WHAT THEY PAID FOR!!
So since modchip.ca had some clones slip through their fingers it's not right to ASSUME TOMMY that all canadian re-sellers are having the same issues!!
We just thought that we would like to make sure that OUR name is not included in this BAD SITUATION!!
Thanks Again Scene!!
Xmods.ca staff!!
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 20, 2004, 11:46:00 AM
don't pick on tommy... he cool
I HAVE SEEN MULTIPLE PEOPLE SAYING THEY GOT FAKES FORM YOU GUYS.....
PS:
HSDEMONZ... change tidus's title to "Wannabe Mod" for a week....
Post by: heinrich on March 20, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on March 20, 2004, 12:45:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on March 20, 2004, 01:20:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Now do your duty as a business owner and answer this persons 5 emails that they have sent you regarding the clone the you let "slip" through. Reimburse him, or exchange for a real Xenium. And for future reference maybe you should also inspect your merchandise before you peddle it off to the hardworking people in here. |
erm, xmods.ca != modchip.ca.
GodCoolin is having problems with modchip.ca.
Post by: xmods.ca on March 20, 2004, 01:37:00 PM
I really wish people WOULD READ and THINK at the same time!!
I AM XMODS.CA , NOT MOCHIP.CA, damn do you people not read, we are 2 totally seperate businesses!!!
I mentioned that the clones must have slipped through mochip.ca fingers, my god people read what we type instead of freaking out, geezzzzz
WE DID NOT sell ANY fake chips ever, and TOMMY its nice to see your age show through with your swearing abilities, its pretty funny, Im not going to mention the DEAL we had, you can type what you wish thats ok!
This is your quote TOMMY;
wow,, good thing my deal with xmods.ca never went through, I;d prolly have a fake in my box right now and it could possible drive me insane. They did have great customer service. fuckers.
So you are pretty much saying that WE are selling FAKE chips, WRONG, dont assume its not right as you have been told.
I just want to clear up that www.xmods.ca and www.modchip.ca are 2 totally different companies!!!!
Heinrich THANK YOU for pointing out their reading abilities for us, we very much appreciate it, PLEASE people read the posts before throwing stones, we just want to make sure that you understand WE ARE NOT THE ONES SELLING CLONED CHIPS, I PERSONALLY CHECK EVERY CHIP THAT COMES INTO THIS SHOP!!
Thanks Again
Xmods.ca staff!!
Post by: Tommy Vercetti on March 20, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
Post by: ofx210p on March 20, 2004, 02:34:00 PM
Having done 40 odd Xeniums so far, I took a look at the chip and thought it odd that the pin header was not straight. I made all the wiring mods to the 1.5 board that are required (even though he was told a solderless adaptor would work?!)
I fitted a pin header and fitted the wonky chip and it didnt work... I took it out again and looked it over a little carefully. Found some dry solderjoints on the pin header connection on the Xenium
I fluxed and resoldered them bingo - it was alive. I am sorry but I thought WOW this is a badly made Xenium ! I thought just a bad batch ?
however i now realise that this customer had bought a clone/fake chip.
Keep up the good work OzXodus ... Your chips are really the best (well at least they are well made and reliable - NOT ONE FAILURE YET !)
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 20, 2004, 02:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (EmperorPsiblade @ Mar 20 2004, 09:46 PM) |
| PS: HSDEMONZ... change tidus's title to "Wannabe Mod" for a week.... |
Lol, uhh....thanks!!! ... for promoting me? Anyways, this thread is gonna be huge... and I told that guy tommy or whatever not accuse ppl without
knowing the facts.....
How could these clones slip into resellers hands so quickly?
Post by: Exobex on March 20, 2004, 04:00:00 PM
Post by: GodCoolin on March 20, 2004, 10:35:00 PM
I knew they were seperate and realized if they read this forum maybe modchip.ca reads it as well.
xmods.ca will probly be the next place I buy from considering that they are pretty active here and I hear good things from others as well.
Post by: Tidusblitz111 on March 20, 2004, 11:05:00 PM
This clone crap is getting played out...
Post by: xmods.ca on March 21, 2004, 05:52:00 AM
Thanks Godcoolin, we thought you had understood, just wanted to make sure, don't need our name brought into this, we would be glad to assist you in any way possible, if you want we would be glad to ship you out a REAL Xenium if you would like until your situation with the other supplier gets sorted out, so that you are not sitting on a boring unmodded xbox, then you could pay us when you get that fixed just so that you dont have to wait, just pay us the shipping charges for now!
Drop us an email and let us know if we can help you out at [email protected]!!
Trying to make everyone happy one day at a time!!
Thanks
Xmods.ca staff!
Post by: GodCoolin on March 21, 2004, 01:23:00 PM
YGPM
Post by: mick-north on March 21, 2004, 11:55:00 PM
Many uphappy people with issues of Original versus Clone and of course they will say bad press as it must hurt offical peeps with high prices!
Anyway me thinks the forums will be full of bad press by now on clone if it not working well but i saw only RITCHIE had the issue?
Post by: Josh Adams on March 22, 2004, 12:46:00 AM
does your led still work? you obviously didnt try the quicksolder method and got lifted pads.
where did you buy your clone from?
Post by: mick-north on March 22, 2004, 02:21:00 AM
I got from Spain seller as i live in North Africa.
Led work OK so far
Post by: hard candy on March 22, 2004, 04:33:00 AM
Why not support the people who did the research, work, and set the standards. Maybe my set of standards in life is higher than yours, but I feel I would rather have the real thing than some knock-off, kinda why I don't buy a fake Rolex, i would rather wait and get the real thing when I can afford it.
If it's a clone, send it back, don't install it, wait a few more days and use the gold standard- why settle for the bronze?
Post by: SureShot on March 22, 2004, 09:19:00 AM
Great work!
Post by: Muukis on March 22, 2004, 09:54:00 AM
Here is a picture from my fakechip.
Post by: GodCoolin on March 22, 2004, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: SureShot on March 22, 2004, 03:07:00 PM
GodCoolin is right - you can trust xmods.ca and pretty much anyone on their official re-sellers list I would imagine.
Post by: PoiDog on March 22, 2004, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: pyskoyly on March 22, 2004, 04:53:00 PM
Post by: Serious Sam on March 22, 2004, 07:09:00 PM
At least comment on this forum and try to make right with your customers which is the least you can do modchip.ca
Post by: mick-north on March 22, 2004, 09:57:00 PM
Post by: ...WrAiTh on March 23, 2004, 04:41:00 AM
Post by: kevhonda on March 23, 2004, 07:54:00 AM
Post by: Serious Sam on March 23, 2004, 10:19:00 AM
| QUOTE (kevhonda @ Mar 23 2004, 05:54 PM) |
| There is posts poping up on ozxodus forums of people ordering offical xenium chips and recieving clones from modchip.ca!! If i where you guys i would only order from the offical resellers list. YOU have been WARNED! |
modchip.ca was on the official reseller list.
Post by: Jeepbeats on March 23, 2004, 08:53:00 PM
Jeepbeats
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 24, 2004, 01:40:00 AM
Post by: techdata on March 24, 2004, 10:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (GodCoolin @ Mar 23 2004, 09:46 PM) |
| I thought they were because I clicked their name as an official reseller and couldnt find out where I clicked their name out. That was how I found their site. Anyhow, I got an email from them sayinng they got a new supplier and we can start buying chips after the 29th again. If they take my money im still filing fraud against them... |
i wont be suprised if they sell fixed clones (fixed known differences) and still screw their customers
They did it once and they can do it again
I am sure there will always be noticable differenced on the PCB since an exact imitation is almost impossible.
Lets see what game they are playing
Up to now i am now sure if any1 got their money back
Reports?
My suggestion, dont buy from modchip.ca
Post by: GodCoolin on March 24, 2004, 01:16:00 PM
Post by: Xbox-Gear on March 24, 2004, 01:34:00 PM
Anyone who bought a 'fake' which was advertised as an original Xenium , should protest and recieve a refund as you have been a subject of fraud. Contact the payment processor for more informatio and what you can do to resolve this and for justice to be served.
The idea of buying a clone may seem tempting , but why if the clones are good quality or even better then the original do resellers feel the need to not state this with pride , instead they prefer to decieve the general public.
How can www.teamxecuter.com place a site such as www.modchip.ca in their selected few respected where to buy links . I sincerly hope no Xecuter fakes are being sold either!
Always checkout your store before purchasing , alot are here to make a quick buck as fast as possible and will cut corners and overlook your consumer rights as a result!
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 24, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Xenium need to grow up |
It's OzXodus not "Xenium"... what morons.....
stupid cloner people guys......
Post by: Xbox-Gear on March 24, 2004, 02:00:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| We are tired of their immature and childish tactics and were very bemused by their crappy business practices - they were obviosuley new to running any kind of business. |
Yeah coming from a guy who decieves public and promises originals and sells clones , very good business practices. Adjectives used such as 'crappy' clearly demonstrate their level of business structure understandings.
| QUOTE |
| We then bought from another source and they tested 100% the same. We will give a guarantee that if ANY of the chips you have sold are faulty or do not work as they should - we will give a full refund AND a working chip in return - We are THAT confident - Xenium need to grow up - We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service. |
Another Source ? It's a different product all together and is a clone and inferior quality. They have decieved customers no doubt. They sound exactly like evolutionmods with your 'promises of reliability' , this is incredibly ironic , when they are themselves the ones acting immature and childish! Someone exposed them for selling fraudulent products and they take silly jibes -
| QUOTE |
| We wished we had stuck with only Xecuter as they gave you full support and a professional service |
It seems they have a good relationship with Xecuter as they are on their where to buy list I hope they aren't selling Xeucter clones!
If you are so unhappy with the OzXodus team , by all means don't support their products. Why are you using the Xenium logo , pictures , text ? You do not sell OzXodus products and consequently do not have the right to use their information and marketing information. You are selling a different product!
Go to the factory ask them to develop their own Operation systems for their clone and ask them to keep researching and developing in order to improve the modchip scene. I can't wait to see what exciting new features this 'superior' clone has , or can't it stand on it's own two feet without decieving the public and relying on others people work ?
I have dealt with OzXodus on a number of occassions , I have no idea of these 'crappy business tactics' , I can assure you 100 % the only crappy business tactics are coming from modchip.ca
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 24, 2004, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: marksu on March 25, 2004, 12:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (GomerPyle @ Mar 25 2004, 10:14 PM) |
| wow from reading these posts it seems like the clones work better then the real thing, according to statments ive read thus far! |
Well keep reading and you will change your mind!
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 25, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
THE CLONES DO NOT WORK PROPERLY!!!!!!!!
Post by: marksu on March 25, 2004, 01:02:00 PM
Just joking GomerPyle, just keep reading.
Post by: EmperorPsiblade on March 25, 2004, 01:12:00 PM
Post by: marksu on March 25, 2004, 01:18:00 PM
Thanks!
EDIT1:
I'm still laufing!
Thanks again!
EDIT2:
Dame just can't stop laufing!
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 25, 2004, 11:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (GomerPyle @ Mar 25 2004, 05:14 PM) |
| wow from reading these posts it seems like the clones work better then the real thing, according to statments ive read thus far! |
have you actually read this thread?
Or some of the other current threads in this forum?
If you had.. you wouldn't have made that statement.
Post by: GodCoolin on March 27, 2004, 10:57:00 AM
I sent them a picture of the modchip they advertise on their site and said this is a real xenium. Im done with these guys. My bank can take care of them now.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on March 27, 2004, 01:59:00 PM
| QUOTE (GodCoolin @ Mar 27 2004, 03:57 PM) |
| My bank can take care of them now. |
That is the best way to deal with people who run online shops and intentionally rip off customers.
Let the banks,VISA, and paypal nail them. In some cases.. when enough people do this to a shop.. they will get their credit privs removed.
Post by: techno tom on April 01, 2004, 06:43:00 AM
Post by: Morglum on April 01, 2004, 07:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (techno tom @ Apr 1 2004, 04:43 PM) |
| I am really pissed off and this is causing me loads of hassell as my kids can't play any games and they are on my ear big time! |
Why cant they play any games, you arnt being a little pirate now are you?
Just put your originals in and they will have games to play.
Post by: marksu on April 01, 2004, 08:50:00 AM
| QUOTE (techno tom @ Apr 1 2004, 04:43 PM) |
| All this stuff is shite! I have an offical Xenium chip that has just died after 5 days! I am really pissed off and this is causing me loads of hassell as my kids can't play any games and they are on my ear big time! I have tried everything possible and have noticed the pcb has a burnt track underneath. All i can say is they need to check there own quality first before slagging anyone elses stuff off,i wish i would have purchased a cheap clone then i could have just thrown it in the bin if it was fucked! Or maybe taken up the 2 for 1 offer on shagged clone chips! |
Sorry to hear about your problems.
What ever reason your offical mod is not a reason flaming peoples opinions in here. These opiniona are based of listening hole Xbos-Scene peoples experienses and opinions.
You maybe had one faulty chip or bad install, it don't make Original Xeniums in overal as bad chip.
I understand thought it is frustaring when your chip is not working.
1. Maybe do a reinstall.
2. If you bought the chip with intallation service get them to fix it as they should be giving some sort of garantie of their service.
3. If you see signs of factory fault get it replaced.
Hope you get it to work
Post by: HSDEMONZ on April 05, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
| QUOTE |
As expected, the thieves over at the "fake factory" have been so badly criticized and have had so many come-backs that they have been hard at work revising and revamping their chip to get it closer to the original (in looks mainly). Seriously, even though they are clowns they at least have the common sense to admit failure in their first attempt and will try, try again. Below you will find pics of the 'new and improved' version. Sadly, there are still many obvious mistakes that have been made, which is why we cannot call them clones yet, they are still FAKES. Very rough and raw and badly manufactured fakes. Copying is really easy, replicating and cloning is not that simple and straightforward is it? We are now issuing our third and final warning. It is not about the few extra bucs saved as many people are thinking. It is about the few extra bucs lost when these chips fail. Many retailers have finally realized their mistake and are scrambling around to recover huge losses in capital outlay. All of a sudden chips are starting to fry without warning and failing in many other ways. What amazes us is how utterly naïve and short sighted some people are in that they try them out initially and assume they will work forever! Genuine Xeniums have been out in the market for over three months and have proven themselves in more ways than one. Fakes have not. WE HAVE NEVER LIED TO YOU AND DO NOT INTEND TO START NOW! FAKES WILL NOT WORK! We will not issue any further warnings after this post. It is now up to you.  Click on picture for large version Original Xenium 1. Solder filled pads (only on these points) 2. White spot(s) 3. Clear (see through) LED case 4. 3 Dots are blue 5. Font centre points of W and M go half way D differs as well 6+7. Grounding Mesh differs as shown Fake Chip 1. No solder filled pads on these points 2. No White spots 3. Opaque (milky) LED case 4. 3 Dots are silver 5. Font differs 6+7. Ground Mesh differs as shown Note : If you have bought a Fake thinking it was an Original please feel free to do a credit card charge back and site FRAUD as the reason. |
(April 6 00:58 GMT+1)
Post by: marksu on April 07, 2004, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: marksu on April 07, 2004, 07:51:00 AM
| QUOTE (techno tom @ Apr 7 2004, 12:40 PM) |
| Where are all the complaints? I can find just 2 people who are not associated with ozxodus(some of these posts look very suspicious)with issues? And it they are such bad quality the Offical ones should be bad too as they use 100% the same i.c's? These people need to start getting some brain cells in there heads before posting! My offical chip died so it looks like it must be using the same doggy batch of components that the clone uses(as they use 100% the same i.c's)? Maybe the CPLD and FLASH chips are clones of the originals and thats why they are not working! And before you start with more rubbish i am not linked to any clone group etc! |
We are not here to be your personal search engine.
Most ppl talking here have been here a while and been partisipating with many thread discusions.
You have Joined: 1-April 04, have made 8 post an clame to have read through hole forum.
You make me lauf!
You like to flame Ozxodus and all the ppl on the forum.
What is your agenda realy?
Post by: techno tom on April 08, 2004, 09:03:00 AM
| QUOTE (CrayZEE @ Apr 7 2004, 05:36 PM) |
| The problem with the clones is, that you have no warranty in any way. So far there been some people who got a bad real xenium, and all been replaced for free at the store they bought it. With a clone, you don't get a replacement. You already saw that. Plus cloning is really bad, if you aren't innovative enough to create something new, just leave it, this scene doesnt need half working modchips (we already have xecuters here though, but atleast they arent cloned) Another problem with clones is that there is no quality control from OZXodus, which basically means every 2nd modchip could be a dead unit, and indeed this is a high risk to spend 40-50$ into a non working modchip. Clones are known to have various issues, i hang out in various channels on IRC and there is not one week where we dont get a person with problems with a xenium clone. IF it was really the same, and only looked a bit different, nobody would care. |
Again forgive me as i am not here to promote clones etc as i have been acussed of!
But the sites i have seen seling clones offer a 2 for 1 offer if your chip is DOA and also a life time guarantee,To be honest these people would be crazy to sell people duds and offer this kind of warranty?
Also one of the sellers(again i won't mention names as i don't want to be accused of promoting etc) i have seen has been around for a very long time and i doubt he would sell non working or unreliable stuff to people,so again i am pointing out facts and not just stuff made up by people,i have also seen a lot of complaints about offical chips not working or going wrong in many posts including mine!
So again i have to disagree with what you are saying!
Post by: XPS2DCBox on April 08, 2004, 07:59:00 PM
Post by: marksu on April 08, 2004, 08:46:00 PM
| QUOTE | ||
| Xenium ID Tester >> From nfo/readme:
Official Site: n/a Download: here (legal using linux bootloader - no XDK) News-Source: xbins.org |
Hope cloners cant use the source code in their advantage though.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on April 08, 2004, 11:17:00 PM
As for the clone talk.. yah.. it's over. People wanting to determine if they have a clone can view the pinned threads.
Until you hear more about that file from OzXodus.. I wouldn't touch it.