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Post by: chilin_dude on February 22, 2004, 10:18:00 AM

Any look on making it reversible?

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Post by: Ebay.God on February 22, 2004, 02:16:00 PM

If one person helps just 3 people, then those 3 people help three people, and so on and so on, this world would be GREAT.

look at my diragram : http://members.lycos...69/pics/1-3.bmp

Just at the THIRD generation, FORTY people are helped!!! If we were to continue this, at the 10th Generation, (time for some quick math, 1+3+9+27+81+243+729+2187+6561+19683+59049=88573), 88573 people are involved and 88572 people are helped!!!

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Post by: sk8phreak88 on February 22, 2004, 04:19:00 PM

im new to xbs and have been readin took hella lot of time to read 24 pages but for you guys that helped him i give you huge congrats and congrats also to kreeve you guys realy show how nice people can be to help fellow gamers

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Post by: 67thRaptorBull on February 22, 2004, 05:11:00 PM

yes, i remember this thread from a long long time ago, and i stopped reading it one day (like 10 pages in) because someone (i forget who, i think it was Blind_Samurai ) said he got it to work, then a week later i read into like the 15th page and it said krevco got it but it didnt work, and so on, so just for a sum up, what did happen (cuase i know at one point very earlier in this thread u got it to work didnt u Blind_Samurai )?

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Post by: Ebay.God on February 22, 2004, 05:22:00 PM

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Post by: 67thRaptorBull on February 22, 2004, 05:28:00 PM

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Post by: rekphour on February 22, 2004, 07:54:00 PM

also, why did this thread start up again? he just helped out some guy and it was all good.... the end now...

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Post by: midnitecarousel on February 22, 2004, 08:45:00 PM

QUOTE (rekphour @ Feb 23 2004, 05:54 AM)

Ebay.God, your a fucking moron, you say that shit like its your own idea... heres some news... DONT STEAL AN IDEA FROM A MAJOR MOVIE AND TRY TO CLAIM IT AS YOUR OWN, you fucking lamer, that post had no reason to be in here.... fuckin fag

also, why did this thread start up again? he just helped out some guy and it was all good.... the end now...

lol i must agree... i read that and i was like... ehy isn't that from some movie? lol... i don't know why it started up again lol, anyone else know?

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Post by: Parrappa on February 22, 2004, 10:25:00 PM

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Post by: midnitecarousel on February 22, 2004, 10:35:00 PM

EDIT: i'm sure most of us would have done the same had we possesed the knowledge... major props blind

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Post by: Parrappa on February 22, 2004, 10:38:00 PM

QUOTE

he was just helping another fellow gamer out. It's what we all should do. After all we are a "community"

True, it is what we should all do, but unfortunately, most ppl wont even get up off their ass unless there is something in it for them............it's the sad truth......
And Blind Samurai went way up and beyond just helping a fellow gamer out.....
He did something that many many ppl would not do........

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Post by: WaRnINg| on April 26, 2004, 10:32:00 AM

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Post by: pascar 802.11 on April 26, 2004, 06:49:00 PM

QUOTE (WaRnINg| @ Apr 26 2004, 11:32 AM)

I have been reading this whole thread for about an hour now and you guys got my college professors looking at me very weird & shit since i seemed so interested.

Great work you guys.. Im glad to see this scene come together for once..

I will link this post under my sig.. So that others can see whats the real deal at xbox-scene.com

I just read this thread and it was truly a great read, but y in the hell did you bump this old ass topic?

EDIT::::

I just realized irony in my post; I in fact just bumped the thread by flaming someone for bumping a thread MYBAD

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Post by: Pimptastic on April 26, 2004, 08:14:00 PM

QUOTE (pascar 802.11 @ Apr 27 2004, 03:49 AM)

I gotta bump this so others can see your post.

hilarious!
Really though, very impressive how you all came together on this one.

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Post by: AirCav on June 11, 2004, 03:43:00 PM

wow... i wish i could get one... my arm is a bum too... so sometimes i hold the controller upside down... yes, i learned to play like that

my dad has tryed all sortta stuff... none of it worked :/

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Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 11, 2004, 03:50:00 PM

Woah, I remember this! Still amazing

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Post by: Arjun on June 11, 2004, 03:51:00 PM

yea i remember it too! im gonna read the whole topic, just not now cause i have finals. but i will.

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Post by: bvic01 on June 11, 2004, 03:55:00 PM

maybe someone can hook you up with a southpaw too...but, if you don't mind me asking, what is wrong with your arm?

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Post by: XDAWG on June 14, 2004, 01:18:00 AM

QUOTE

wow... i wish i could get one... my arm is a bum too... so sometimes i hold the controller upside down... yes, i learned to play like that

my dad has tryed all sortta stuff... none of it worked :/

Bump maybe some one could hook you up. Uou might want to start a new threas linking it to this one?

XDAWG

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Post by: Forta-Kon on June 23, 2004, 10:39:00 AM

I have a few extra dukes laying around. If you send it to me I can repair it. I would imagine none of the mod functions got messed up.

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Post by: Krevco on June 23, 2004, 10:42:00 AM

It's gone, I tossed it in a rare fit of rage. this was over a month agao, I just felt like an ingrate coming back here. Truth be told, it never worked 100%. The rumble didnt work, and looking right on the left stick had no analog, it just went full bore. I never wanted to complain because I was so grateful for the hard work. But, I'm real sorry. I dont have it anymore.

...

Haha, I was being sarcastic. I didnt literally open the window and throw it out. I tried to play with it despite the sticks being bsuted but it was impossible. I ended up just throwing it in the barrel. It was really depressing, actually. It was like losing my Xbox.

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Post by: Arjun on June 23, 2004, 01:29:00 PM

i just saw this controller fot the ps2. ur able to switch all the joysticks, dpads, and button assembly around for leftys and such. if u use it with the adapter for the xbox it would be perfect. when i find the exact product ill update this.

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Post by: Smeds on June 25, 2004, 12:43:00 PM

That was an amazing story, sorry Krevco can't help you there. I don't even know how to install a mod chip lol! I just found this site because I want to paint my xbox, but now I'm thinking of learning much more.

Try and find a way to contact Blind_Samurai!

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Post by: cromat44 on June 25, 2004, 12:47:00 PM

they have these fps shooter controllers that do that with a switch, someone may have mentioned them already but i dont want to read that many pages... they are tiny though :/ maybe you could take some of the guts out and put them in "the duke"

http://www.ebgames.c...duct/237721.asp

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Post by: Mjkthirdeye on June 25, 2004, 08:35:00 PM

. I would gladly do it but my soldering and electrical knowledge arent exactly great, especially on a pcb:(.

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Post by: COTA-GodlyOne on June 25, 2004, 09:13:00 PM

this thread is like a million years old =/

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Post by: Mjkthirdeye on June 25, 2004, 09:34:00 PM

First off Wild fire he did end up recieving a working one however it recently broke

Secondly whats your point COTA-GodlyOne? It is old. Then someone revived it and we came to know that the first controller broke and now,hopefully, a replacement will be made.

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Post by: B1uSt33l on June 25, 2004, 09:48:00 PM

Hey why not just choose a different control configuration like in the player settings on Halo??? That would be way way easier!! They have the Southpaw configuration in the settings already!

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Post by: B1uSt33l on June 25, 2004, 09:51:00 PM

Hey why not just choose a different control configuration like in the player settings on Halo??? That would be way way easier!! They have the Southpaw configuration in the settings already!

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Post by: Mjkthirdeye on June 25, 2004, 09:52:00 PM

this has been discussed but not all games have that setting because the devs are to lazy to put the extra yet tiny effort to do this.

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Post by: Kean on June 29, 2004, 06:14:00 PM

Never leave a fallen gamer behind

I just wanted to say, in my humble opinion...

God Bless America
You guys rock!

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 29, 2004, 08:11:00 PM

its 1:15AM now, but tomorrow ill delve more into this. it would be my honor to help you out

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Post by: twisted.penguin on June 29, 2004, 08:19:00 PM

If someone [cough]customxbox.net[/cough] would give me a controller I'll do it, shouldnt be too hard.

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Post by: C1utCh on June 29, 2004, 09:09:00 PM

maybe try contacting samuri again, maybe he'll make another, even if it is for $50

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Post by: Forta-Kon on June 29, 2004, 09:28:00 PM

krazyjosh5 already said he would do it.

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Post by: monke on June 29, 2004, 09:56:00 PM

I've been reading this thread for 2 hours + and I just wanted to know is there anyway I can send blind samuri paypal or somthing, I want to help and I'm gonna try this on one of my controllers but if I can I will pay for a fat controller or at least help with it. Let me know. I just might be able to pull this off.

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 30, 2004, 07:04:00 AM

yeah guys i am already trying this... i have a controller which i will donate myself... if you want to support the project, you can pm me and donate an additional controller which i will mod for krevco as well. this way he will have backup controllers

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Post by: dougMod on June 30, 2004, 07:17:00 AM

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 30, 2004, 08:53:00 AM

)

After desoldering both thumbsticks I stared at the design of the controller and the way the thumbsticks are set up for a good deal of time. Finally, I figured out the method I will reconstruct it.

My method involves cutting the terminals of the thumbsticks shorter (much shorter) so they dont reach all the way through the controller motherboard to touch the terminals on the backside. They are just long enough so they fit in the hole and will secure the thumbsticks so they wont flop around. Then, I plan on soldering a very fine wire to each of the 28 terminals (2x 14 terminals per single thumbstick) then running it through the holes and soldering it to the correctly inversed side on the other thumbstick. Currently I am in the process of cutting and stripping two ends of 28 pieces of fine wire approximately 4 inches each (very very very tedious and meticulous).

For pictures, see:
http://www.freewebs....controller.html
Thank you Blind Samauri
Specifically, see the very last picture of the controller stick with the terminals. Those suckers got cut so far down that they are approx. 1/2 the thickness of a penny. That way they fit inside the controller motherboard, but without making contact with the pads at the bottom.

Krevco's controller may very well be done by the end of the day (no promises, I've got to see how long it will take to cut/strip the 28 pieces of wire as well as resolder them). So far it looks highly promising.

Ill update everyone later tonight.

PS - Krevco, this controller will definately rumble too

Ill make sure all functions work 100% before sending it out to ya.

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Post by: dougMod on June 30, 2004, 09:35:00 AM

wow man looks very good, your doing a nice job

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 30, 2004, 12:06:00 PM

I am trying to make sure that this thumbstick wont be cock-eyed. It will look, feel, and handle just like a regular thumbstick, except inverted

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Post by: Lightning|Striker on June 30, 2004, 03:23:00 PM

Theres a 3rd party controller....it's got Xbox Live functions already built in, and it's got a hardware-reversal switch!

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Post by: blindmist on June 30, 2004, 04:00:00 PM

a modder has got to do what a modder has got to do, get around M$

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 30, 2004, 05:10:00 PM

ATTENTION: I NEED YOUR HELP!!

I am in desperate need of heat shrink tubing to continue this project! It needs to be very very small. It has to fit around 26AWG wire. Which is approx .05mm (very very tiny). If anyone has any of this or could even buy this (if you ever wanted to donate to this project, spend a few bucks on ebay or on the internet and get this so I can continue this project!) then it would be much appreciated. So far, my only obstacle is getting tubing for these wires so they dont touch the points.

Anyone who can help out and donate a few bucks in the form of tubing, please PM me.

Thanks

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on June 30, 2004, 05:56:00 PM

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Post by: SC00BY on June 30, 2004, 08:29:00 PM

gimme a site n ill try to do what i can. its only a few bucks. i can find a few bucks on the ground.

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on July 01, 2004, 06:34:00 AM

Three of these are needed:
http://www.planeteng...ct.asp?pid=1119

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on July 01, 2004, 06:47:00 AM

Here are some pictures of the progress thusfar:

user posted image

The Thumbstick Base and the 14 Wires - Took me all day to do

user posted image

Thumbstick Base Closeup

user posted image

Another shot of the crazy slew of wires

user posted image

The actual wires that need to be cut, striped, and soldered x2. Xbox button shown for scale.

user posted image

The thumbstick base with the pins cut down. Notice the pins on this are much more stubby than Blind_Ninjas pins here:
user posted image

Thank you to Blind_Ninja for that picture.

Basically each of those tiny wires has to be soldered on to each of the pins in the last picture, except much much smaller (because they have been cut down). Also, all the wires have to be soldered straight onto the pins. They cannot be soldered to the sides of the pins, it has to be on long pin and wire (not a big glob of solder and a wire stuck inside of it) or else the thumbstick base wont sit in the holes on the controller motherboard. They wont fit in so it has to be straight through.

If you want to help out, please see the post before this one about the heat shrink tubing.

Thanks!

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Post by: dougMod on July 05, 2004, 02:37:00 PM

dang crazy josh, makin some goood progress

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Post by: bvic01 on July 05, 2004, 03:14:00 PM

nice job guys

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Post by: krazyjosh5 on July 09, 2004, 03:56:00 AM

Anyways, status is still the same. I am waiting for scooby to send heatshrink although he has been banned for some reason

KREVCO - Recently, while hacking up my controllers, I cracked the jewel that I was going to use for your controller. The dome has a crack in it. Will this be ok? I dont have any other controllers to use to replace the dome with as I am donating my only extra controller. Hopefully this will be ok, but let me know if its not. Everything else on the controller looks sexy as usual (and then some).

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Post by: Perplexer on July 09, 2004, 01:17:00 PM

I've got some heatshrink I'll donate. But I'll warn you: this stuff is TINY!!! The label reads "24ga", but that's the actual wire diameter it will cover (not including the insulation).

Try to slip this heatshrink over a piece of 30ga wire with unstripped kynar insulation, and it will *barely* fit if you tug on it.

So unless you're using 32ga or smaller wire, I don't know how useful this will be.

PM me if you're interested.

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Post by: Xtrem on August 12, 2004, 02:24:00 PM

QUOTE (krazyjosh5 @ Jul 9 2004, 06:59 AM)

I Can Donate A New Jewel For The Controller (Xbox-Scene Jewel).

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Post by: reactions on August 12, 2004, 03:45:00 PM

i see this post is almost a year old - thats nuts - so uve held out for quite a while - ive heard of people playing writing and drawing with their feet - well u know where imgoing with that.

very cool of people helping out -

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Post by: xxlancerevoviiixx on August 12, 2004, 06:34:00 PM

QUOTE (CustomXbox.net @ Sep 27 2003, 05:36 AM)

Customxbox.net would be willing to donate a controller if needed.

yes just pay shipping and handling lol

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Post by: BigMar992 on August 12, 2004, 06:48:00 PM

ok...i need some updates. i read about 8 pages....then realized i have other work to do. I read thru the 8 pages, and it seemed a guy named samurai was going to do the mod...then i skip to the last page and he hasnt even got his controller yet (almost a year later). What has happened?? This is like a friggen soap opera!!

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Post by: twisted.penguin on August 14, 2004, 12:55:00 PM

Check out www.xport1.com. They have custom jewels for the duke.

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Post by: linkinpark4869 on August 18, 2004, 10:39:00 PM

hey guys, i don't know if this will help, but it's a tut on swapping the left and right thumbstick functions.... just thought i'd put it in here since it's for a great cause...i know this is for an s-type but it should be the same concept or atleast i think so... Good Luck guys!

swapping left and right functions

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Post by: FallsInc on November 07, 2004, 07:50:00 PM

he still didnt get the controller? wtf is going on... this would take me like a day....

i have everything i need except heatshrink...

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Post by: CreziB on November 07, 2004, 08:14:00 PM

Wow, never saw this thread. If this is a project that never finished and Krevco didn't get the controller, then I'll put one together. I didn't realize the timeline here(I never check the dates on threads). Ofcourse, I'd need some word from the man himself, Krevco.

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Post by: JaredC01 on November 07, 2004, 08:30:00 PM

I'd be willing to work on a controller as well... Either S Type or the Duke. PM me if needed.

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Post by: dollerbill on November 07, 2004, 09:57:00 PM

QUOTE (JaredC01 @ Nov 7 2004, 08:33 PM)

I'd be willing to work on a controller as well... Either S Type or the Duke. PM me if needed.

After reading the whoooole thread for about an hour, Krevco did recieve the first controller and it didn't work. He sent it back to blind_samurai who fixed it and sent it back. Krevco then used it for about 6 months or so but it broke. Velocity6 started to make another controller but Krevco has not contacted him back to make sure he is still interested.. That is were it stands..

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Post by: morbidpete on July 08, 2005, 01:17:00 PM

didnt he break it out of anger then some guys on the scene got mad at him for it cause it was alot of work? so he disappeared?

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Post by: nateh90 on July 08, 2005, 08:45:00 PM

i like southpaw cause it reminds me of goldeneye

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Post by: SpookieStylez on July 08, 2005, 09:46:00 PM

QUOTE(Krevco @ Nov 8 2003, 12:46 AM)

controller has arrived

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Post by: Granulated on July 08, 2005, 10:44:00 PM

QUOTE(nateh90 @ Jul 8 2005, 10:56 PM)

i like southpaw cause it reminds me of goldeneye

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 08:19:00 PM

Due to a handicap I am unable to play games where you aim/look with the right thumbstick and move with the left thumbstick. Some games (like Halo, Timesplitters and Ghost Recon) allow you to switch the functions, some do not. rather than miss so many games I want to play, I am offering $50 to anyone who can make the mod for me. I need a southpaw controller made of the original Xbox control (the Duke). (NOT the S-TYPE)

What I mean is reversing the functions of the sticks so the right stick does the left stick function and vice versa.

I will pay $50, or a new game of your choice... plus the price of the controller.

If youre interested please IM me at mizzirf1 thanks.

This post has been edited by Krevco: Sep 27 2003, 03:38 AM

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 08:35:00 PM

bump

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Post by: cYon on September 26, 2003, 08:38:00 PM

I think someone should do this for free! Help a fellow gamer out! I'd do it myself, but have never attempted to do so, and wouldnt want to learn the hard way! Show some love people!

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Post by: Senates684 on September 26, 2003, 09:50:00 PM

I sat thinking about it, and I would have to think a little more.... you would somehow have to remap the points on the controller board...ill have to look at the southpaw controller style

http://rampancy.net/rampancy_movies/wegrewupfast.mov

This post has been edited by Senates684: Oct 19 2003, 09:16 PM

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 09:51:00 PM

u have to break the connecs on the circuit board, and jump them all to eachother. but the sticks arent lined up the same, so it will take a lil trial and error.

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Post by: ADAWG69 on September 26, 2003, 08:45:00 PM

are you taliking about just switching the left thumsick with the right thumbstick and the right thumbstick with the left? Casue that would be too hard. Or are you talking about changing the directions that the thumbsticks go?

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Post by: Senates684 on September 26, 2003, 09:58:00 PM

QUOTE (ADAWG69 @ Sep 27 2003, 05:45 AM)

Casue that would be too hard.

Not if you got solder skills.

EDIT: Im sure if I read thru the arcade stick project, you could find a diagram or the points

This post has been edited by Senates684: Sep 27 2003, 04:59 AM

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 09:59:00 PM

The actual physical sticks will not be touched or moved at all, just the functions they perform need to change (a much bigger job).

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Post by: WireX on September 26, 2003, 09:05:00 PM

This is very possible, and i would be interested in helping out however I am extremely busy atm. This would be a good trial and error project with a broken or defective controler (nothing else really has to work, just the sticks).

It would be a matter of jumpering the 4 (IIRC) contacts for each stick to eachothers contacts then disabling the origional contacts (cutting the traces).

If nothing comes of this in 5 weeks, repost it and I should have some more time and will be able to see what I can do (I don't know how many layers the origional controlers pcb is, could be even harder (raising the sticks from their contacts so that the traces (internally) can remain intact.

If anyone does undertake this, pm me if you need any help.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 26, 2003, 09:25:00 PM

I already desoldered the stick bases, so far. Tomorrow I have to get more wire so I can remap them and see if they will work.
My first thought was to make connections between the pins of that small chip,that I think regulates all signals in the controller, but not having enough knowledge on what it does, I dropped my first plan. About just rewiring the connections, if it is to be done, than the original traces must be cut. That is the major problem. Tracing all the leads is actually quite troublesome, so that plan also falls off.
Anybody has any other ideas on how this might be done or have any info on that signal chip?

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 10:44:00 PM

blind samurai, i encourage you to PM wirex (above poster) for help. he seems willing to pitch in some of his knowledge. And I appreciate VERY MUCH the effort so far. It means a lot to me.

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 26, 2003, 09:33:00 PM

Customxbox.net would be willing to donate a controller if needed.

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Post by: Senates684 on September 26, 2003, 09:36:00 PM

QUOTE (CustomXbox.net @ Sep 27 2003, 06:33 AM)

Customxbox.net would be willing to donate a controller if needed.

you guys are so nice

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 10:49:00 PM

QUOTE

Customxbox.net would be willing to donate a controller if needed.

(just make sure its NOT an stype!!)

This post has been edited by Krevco: Sep 27 2003, 05:51 AM

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Post by: error21 on September 26, 2003, 09:49:00 PM

you can use evox to change left with right and right with left if thats what you want

its in the evox readme (not the latest)

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Post by: Krevco on September 26, 2003, 09:51:00 PM

QUOTE

you can use evox to change left with right and right with left if thats what you want

I dont mod my xbox, nor do i ever intend to.
edit: fixed to clear up confusion.

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Post by: ADAWG69 on September 26, 2003, 09:56:00 PM

i think he meant a switch on the controller itself.

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Post by: Senates684 on September 26, 2003, 09:59:00 PM

QUOTE (ADAWG69 @ Sep 27 2003, 06:56 AM)

i think he meant a switch on the controller itself.

He was talking someones post on the first page, talking about EvoX

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Post by: SKoT on September 26, 2003, 11:08:00 PM

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 05:16:00 AM

QUOTE (WireX @ Sep 27 2003, 06:50 AM)

I have a simple idea, but it depends on how the controlers are set up. If it is only a double sided pcb, then it is simple to cut/rewire any traces needed (I can't check as it is 12:40 and I only have stypes around me), however, if it is a 2 or 4 layer pcb (as I assume it is) then a little more crafty solution will have to be used.

My idea as it stands:

Lift the sticks from their traces. Get very fine wire (as small as you can get) and solder however many wires it is to the sticks pads) then insulate the traces and place the stick back down (may need some adhesive to stay into place).
If you do this for both sticks pads, along with the sticks themselves, it is only a matter of flipping the leads. You could even use a switch (based on the number of pads) so that the controler could be whatever the user wanted to choose.

The difficulty with this idea is to keep the control sticks in their origional position while keeping them away from the solder pads. I don't know what kind of clearance we are looking at, but I don't think it would be too hard to do.

That is what I am currently trying to do. Only on my experimental S type, to see if it works. My idea is to bend the pins that are responsible for controlling, bend them parrallel to the board, and insulate, so they don't touch the board. This would have to be done to both of them. And then do the rewiring as WireX described. The thumbstickes would have to be raised maybe about 1mm from the original position though.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 09:12:00 AM

An interesting update. I managed to rewire the left thumbstick controls onto the right thumbstick. But I get interesting results while was testing it. First game - Halo, usually I use left thumbstick for up, down, left-right strafing movements and right thumbstick for looking around. Since I rewired only left thumbstick, theoretically I should be able only to move up, right , left and down, BUT the movements are reversed!!! Because if you notice, left thumbstick is positioned on PCB with the small button up, and right thumbstick is placed with that button down!!! So what this means, when I press up on the thumbstick Master Chief moves back! And when I press back he moves forward!!! But situation gets worse when I press left - right! Since I did it on my S controller as an experiment, I had to desolder the little motion thingy in order to remove the left trigger, so I could get to the pins of the left thumbstick. But situation gets worse with left-right movement. I usually use left trigger for jumping in Halo, since I removed it I should not have jumping at all, right? Wrong! When I press left, Master Chief TURNS (!) (Not strafes as he is supposed to!!!) left and down and jumps at the same time!!!!!! Same goes when I press right, only in other direction.
I will inspect my solder job again to see if I have any shortings, because that's probably why the looking+jumping thing comes up. But even if I have that fixed, I will need to reverse the pins, since just straight rewiring won't work.
Just thought I would tell you about my progress so far. I will try to post pics, but don't guarantee for sure.
Also, does anybody have a high-res pic of Original controller? i would like to see how the pins of thumbstick bases are located. I suppose they are also reversed.

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Post by: Bejiba on September 27, 2003, 12:05:00 PM

Out of curiosity, what's your handicap? You don't have to say, I'm just wondering.

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Post by: Dan Wysocki on September 27, 2003, 12:12:00 PM

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 12:21:00 PM

sad

the xpads pcb board doesnt seem that much hard to remake with the modifications

Oh and this could sell if these boards were made

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Post by: Romps on September 27, 2003, 12:25:00 PM

I dont know if it would be of any use but the ps2 controller has the 2 thumb sticks close wouldnt useing a ps2 controller be any better (or maybe easier to swap the thumbsticks over)
or how about a cheap xbox controller they any easier to convert anyone got one to take a look how the thumbsticks r on a none ms controller

u can get a ps too xbox adaptor and it uses the rumble and everything as well

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 12:42:00 PM

QUOTE (Potato Bob @ Sep 27 2003, 09:21 PM)

God why not just make a new pcb (printed circut board) and take the old chip from the old pcb

pcb kits are easy to find

I can get one from fry's

someone should help the fello gamer out cuz not being able to play those great games is just

sad

the xpads pcb board doesnt seem that much hard to remake with the modifications

Oh and this could sell if these boards were made

I don't really think that that would be the easiest way to do it.
Why? Printed PCB costs about the same to manufacture as a new controller plus all those small components have to be resoldered again into new PCB and the main thing is that it has to be designed first!!! The design has to be almost like M$ one, with modifcations made for specific purpose, and this would possible if only m$ released the schematics for their controllers! That way we could just modify the schematics how we need, but still manufacturing, soldering all components over ......I don't say that it is impossible to do, it's just very difficult and complex!!!

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 01:03:00 PM

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Post by: mkollek on September 27, 2003, 01:06:00 PM

never said it would happen but its worth a try, no?

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 01:07:00 PM

+i honestly dont think its worth a try. not to be negative, i just think theres no way they would do anything for a lil guy like me.

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Post by: Dan Wysocki on September 27, 2003, 01:13:00 PM

dude, i rekon asking MS may pay off, they may see it as a possible way to get into the papers, or maybe see you as someone to make money from??

try it man.
gd luck

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Post by: Senates684 on September 27, 2003, 01:18:00 PM

MS rep kinda sounded like a asshole...but heres what he said.

Question: Hi. I ran into someone who loves to play xbox, but he cant very much. He has nerve damage in his right hand. He is looking around for someone to help him make a controller that will work for him. Basically, he wants a 'southpaw' controller type. Would MS be able to help at all?

( BMS has joined )
( Tyler Lipsett has joined )
Tyler Lipsett:
Hello and welcome to the Xbox Interactive Pre Sales Online Support for North American console. My name is Tyler.

BMS: hi
Tyler Lipsett: Yes.
Tyler Lipsett:
I invite you to call our Xbox Live Customer Care, toll-free, at 1-800-4MY-XBOX ( 1-800-469-9269 ). It is open from 9am to 1am, eastern standard time, 7 days a week in North America.

( BMS has exited )

Might be worth a shot to call and just see what they say...

EDIT: btw, then it says (BMS HAS EXITED) which is me, he closed the chat and kicked me out

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Post by: Senates684 on September 27, 2003, 01:23:00 PM

I never said it was a good idea, I said it was woth a shot. Sometimes MS can be your best friend.

Like once a year.

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 01:25:00 PM

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Post by: Senates684 on September 27, 2003, 01:27:00 PM

QUOTE (Krevco @ Sep 27 2003, 10:25 PM)

eh, id rather put my money in the hands of you guys than in MS.

true, but I would just check it out, IMO. Not trying to say anything like the people here cant do it (because they can) im just saying that MS might be nice. MS gave me a free copy of halo before.

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Post by: Dan Wysocki on September 27, 2003, 02:00:00 PM

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Post by: SigTom on September 27, 2003, 02:21:00 PM

So I called up MS and asked them about getting a controller with the left and right thumbsticks reversed. The rep said he didnt know know of a part number or anything that specific, but that he did think MS made them and that I should look into contacting a store that carries Video Games, Consoles, like Electronic Boutique, EB Games, etc. I would think that the original poster Krevco has made a search of such places already, but since there are about 5 + stores not 2 miles down the road and its a Saturday, Ill go check them out and see what they say. If they do, Ill let you know of anything I find, and prices, and even if the company would be interested in making a good name for themselves with a gaming coummunity by donating one of them , if they very well exsist. Let ya know what I find out.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 02:26:00 PM

...........

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 03:15:00 PM

I know that there are no companies that put out a southpaw controller, BELIVE me, I searched my ass off. There are 2 companies that put out programmable controllers, but both have such poor analogue sticks that they are more harm than good. It's kind of like a sick tease. I had a guy take a look at this and he mentioned something about not having to do just the 4 ways and swap them, but about there being an extra 2 or something that had to have something done..I dont recall..

anyway..Im so happy to hear about the progress. Dont worry about rushing, It sounds like you are making insane progress already!!

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 03:18:00 PM

But seriously we realy need to do something

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 05:50:00 PM

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Post by: mkollek on September 27, 2003, 05:55:00 PM

He tried it on a S controller. Krevco need the Original BIG controller. He was just testing for right now.

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 06:02:00 PM

I could send a controller to samurai if he is willing to do it again for krevco.

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 06:04:00 PM

ITS ppl like blind samuri that makes this world great

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 06:11:00 PM

QUOTE

I could send a controller to samurai if he is willing to do it again for krevco.

Yes, I will do the controller for him

.
Also, you've got mail!!!

QUOTE

ITS ppl like blind samuri that makes this world great

Thanks for the input

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 06:16:00 PM

Krevco Hope your looking at this topic

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 06:26:00 PM

......

QUOTE

Edit: Experiment with it, not experiment it with it

LOL!!!!!

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Post by: brahm2 on September 27, 2003, 06:46:00 PM

Wow you guys, this is a really nice thing to do!

I wish I could help somehow!!!

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 06:50:00 PM

QUOTE

Brahm2
Wow you guys, this is a really nice thing to do!

You know it

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Post by: Todd587 on September 27, 2003, 06:59:00 PM

Yea guys, this is awesome.

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Post by: mkollek on September 27, 2003, 07:08:00 PM

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 07:19:00 PM

but this is what a community should be about, helping each other, def a step in a better direction.

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 07:22:00 PM

Yes this is the most helpful topic yet in this fourm

So wheres Krevco He should Post up

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 07:59:00 PM

edit: I would have posted sooner, but I was away from my computer watching boxing on HBO

Ok, I may get ranked for this, but I dont care. I know its only gaming and to some people it's not a big deal, but I actually had some tears rolling down when I read this progress report. I am so moved by you guys doing this for me and by everybodys enthusiasm and kindness.

Ya know, I am a hardcore gamer - HARDCORE. I post in multiple forums, I have thousands of posts. I read websites religously, I even attended E3 this year. It is the most heartbreaking thing for me to follow a videogame from announcement to release, only to not be able to enjoy it because of this controller obstacle. I have to read about people enjoying the game, all the glowing reviews, all that stuff. Some developers are thoughtful enough to include controller options, others unfortunately are not.

I have had the bad luck of being stuck with this horrible nerve condition, but now I might finally be able to play these games I have been pining for. I have been asking about this for well over a year from Teamxbox, to IGN, to Gamespot, to GamingAge. And you guys have cracked the case for me in a matter of days. I am speechless, and I am SO FUCKING grateful. This means so much to me that if you knew, you simply would not believe it.

This is much appreicated, and will not be a favor unreturned.

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Post by: mkollek on September 27, 2003, 08:06:00 PM

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Post by: WireX on September 27, 2003, 08:09:00 PM

indeed.

It is nice to see a community come together for the greater good.

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 08:11:00 PM

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Post by: brahm2 on September 27, 2003, 08:17:00 PM

I only wish I could contribute!!

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 08:20:00 PM

QUOTE (Krevco @ Sep 28 2003, 04:59 AM)

I am very happy that we could help you out

.
Also great thanks to everybody......for help and support

Thanks again!!!

EDIT: My camera is charging and I will try to post pics soon of how I did it....

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 08:36:00 PM

<-- Peabody, MA

small world

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 08:39:00 PM

This topic Should Be in the news

and also boxplorer g partiton from Xeero was just released

today Cuz of one topic

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 08:43:00 PM

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 08:45:00 PM

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 08:48:00 PM

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 08:49:00 PM

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 27, 2003, 08:51:00 PM

no money is needed, I am donating controller, Samurai is doing the modding.

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Post by: mirx999 on September 27, 2003, 08:52:00 PM

QUOTE (CustomXbox.net @ Sep 28 2003, 12:51 AM)

no money is needed, I am donating controller, Samurai is doing the modding.

guess you guys don't need me, then. good luck

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 27, 2003, 08:53:00 PM

EDIT:

Ya CustomXbox.net Is Great

Open Sooooner

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Post by: tester123 on September 27, 2003, 09:08:00 PM

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 09:09:00 PM

QUOTE (tester123 @ Sep 28 2003, 06:08 AM)

Wow, I just came across this thread and I'd be happy to help. As a matter of fact, I'm going to start working on it now.

I dont think you have to my friend, it seems to be all taken care of.

But yet again, the kindness of this board just humbles me to no end.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 27, 2003, 09:13:00 PM

and for other I used some thick almost unbendable wire.....LOL.....
With original controller there would be more space and I will use a thinner, but more durable wire

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Post by: tester123 on September 27, 2003, 09:15:00 PM

QUOTE (Krevco @ Sep 28 2003, 12:09 AM)

QUOTE (tester123 @ Sep 28 2003, 06:08 AM)

Wow, I just came across this thread and I'd be happy to help. As a matter of fact, I'm going to start working on it now.

I dont think you have to my friend, it seems to be all taken care of.

But yet again, the kindness of this board just humbles me to no end.

oh, ok. I didn't read the whole thread, just your first post.

Yeah, I agree... this is a kick-ass place.

If it falls thru, shoot me a PM and I'll get one out to you.

*EDIT* F'n sweet

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Post by: mkollek on September 27, 2003, 09:16:00 PM

LOL

looks like the controller has an afro

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 09:16:00 PM

holy crap!! that looks like a lot of work!! Will you be able to put it back to working order? Id hate to see you lose an S for this.

wtf am i saying? Of course u can..DUH!! LOL

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Post by: mirx999 on September 27, 2003, 09:17:00 PM

haha i'm gonna go ahead and do this to my big controller. Even if it doesn't help anyone, it'll be quite amusing to confuse the hell out of my friends next time we play halo

Man i'm just an editing fool tonight.

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Post by: Krevco on September 27, 2003, 09:18:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 28 2003, 06:17 AM)

haha i'm gonna go ahead and do this to my big controller. If it doesn't help anyone, it'll be quite amusing to confuse the hell out of my friends next time we play halo

LOL. yah, theyd be like WTF!!?!?!?

classic!!

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Post by: XDAWG on September 27, 2003, 09:58:00 PM

Goos job guys!

Krevco: wondering how you heard of xbox-scene? Not that it is an unpopular place or anything just asking because I remeber an older post in the thread where you said that you didnt have your xbox moded and didnt intend to. Just curious really. Hopefully everything work out good for you. Just remember not to get pissed offf and throw the controller across the room when the game isnt going your way

Goood job once again everyone!!

XDAWG

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Post by: mirx999 on September 27, 2003, 10:04:00 PM

wow, IGN actually did something right, for once.

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Post by: Zero_Cool on September 27, 2003, 11:07:00 PM

This article deserves if anything to be posted, this is an amazing unison of the gaming community to come together as a group for a greater purpose. I agree 100% that this shoudl be in the news somewhere so I sat down went to azcentral.com, being the arizonian i am and submitted this to them as a article idea:

I play a lot of video games as most teenagers do nowadays, I also spend a lot of time on the internet as most others do. I probably spend about a fourth of my time at the website http://forums.xbox-scene.com researching ideas for my xbox and playstation. I recently came upon an article about a man who had a severe nerve damage in his right hand who went by the alias 'krevco'. Even though he loved playing video games he couldnt due to his nerve condition. He decided to post an inquiry on the site asking somebody to modify a controller for him, not an easy task, for a mere 50 dollars. Amazingly people started posting right away and a user going by the alias Blind_Samurai started on the controller right away, soon tons of people jumped into help. The website Customxbox.net offered to donate a controller for free to help, people offered every idea they could think of, made every attempt necessary and spent hours of time making this controller for someone none of them knew nor had met in real life. The time that this project was proposed and executed is incredible to even fathom.

Allot of gamers have a bad reputation of being uncaring lazy anti-social slobs, but would an uncaring lazy antisocial slob that had no respect or care of the outside world except what existed inside of his 51 inch plasma flat screen do this. I can think of many instances where most people would shun this off because it would take to much work but these people actually stuck together to finish this project and I think that people need to realize this.

Topic location: http://forums.xbox-s...&t=107624&st=90

Thank you for taking the time to read this summary and please consider it for a possible article in the paper.

I await a response tomorrow morning. again mad props to blind_samurai and anyone else who helped out.

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Post by: krobby on September 27, 2003, 11:49:00 PM

I've been following this thread since it started and was about to get out my tools when samurai got his working, anywho it's really great to see this kind of thing happening on this forum.

Usually i post here for a few weeks and maybe try to help some poeple out, then get flamed by someone i'm trying to help and leave for a while. Seeing this kind of thing happening reminds me that there's a whole lot more to these forums than pricks just 'using' the forums when they break something and never giving anything back.

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Post by: Perplexer on September 28, 2003, 04:48:00 AM

QUOTE (Blind_Samurai @ Sep 28 2003, 01:13 AM)

::WARNING::THE FOLLOWING IMAGES MIGHT BE DISTURBING DUE TO INTENSE MODDING ::WARNING::

Oh, the horror! The entrails!

Great job, guys. It is heartwarming to see gamers helping gamers, and amazing for me to read this thread and see how quickly it all came together.

Big ups especially to Blind_Samurai and CustomXbox.net. B_S, PM me if you need any parts or supplies.

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Post by: Gman22 on September 28, 2003, 05:11:00 AM

good idea

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 28, 2003, 05:59:00 AM

QUOTE (WireX @ Sep 28 2003, 02:03 PM)

To all those who want to try this for the hell of it

why don't you try something really tricky. Lift the sticks, then solder wire going to a switch (would have to be one of those ones with like 6 contacts for each position) then solder wires to the sticks going to the switch.

You could have a convertable controler, and have a real purpose for it. This way any southpaws (I know a few who prefer it) will be able to use it the way they want, and other will be able to use it normally.

Now WireX has a good idea!!! Since the main objective of this topic has been accomplished, why don't we try to take on another challenge? I woud say definitely yes, this should be even more interesting........

Each thumbstick, when desoldered from the PCB has 10 legs, I tried to not solder all 10, but then controller gave me wrong controls, so I assume all 10 has to be in contact with the PCB. So how would it be possible to switch between them? First I think I have to tell the process of how reversing controls in detail, so people can do it also, and from there we think on.

1. I completely desoldered the thumbsticks using solder sucker for bug blobs and braid for small.
EDIT: I also put some electrical tape on where the thumbstick was to prevent the bent pins shorting something out.
2. I bent each thumbstick's legs 90* = they became parallel to the conroller PCB.
3. I cut 20 wires (If you don't have any good at hand, like I did, IDE cable will do

), and stripped both ends leaving about 5 mm of bare wire coming out.
4. Then I took each thumbstick and soldered the wires to each pin. NOTE: Separately from PCB, nothing was done to PCB at this time!!! Don't solder the 4 wires to the metal carcass in which the thumbstick resides, I think it is used for grounding and should not be bothered.

Here comes a little more complicated part, I will try to describe as in detail as I can, sorry if you get confused.

5. First I decided to wire left thumbstick to the right one. So all soldering was done from the back of PCB. That means the way I wired the thumbstick was mirrored. You know when you solder anything from the back, it has to be mirrored or you won't get the original results.
6. After that, the wire should've long enough for you to take and place the left thumbstick into the rightthumbstick's place, how to position it you will see by locations of the small button, but you have to put the thumbstick in reverse!!! Or othervise you controls will be all in reverse!
I will try to post pics later, to make it more clearer......

So far, for making a switch my idea was to use something like a rotary switch, but those are so big and bulky so I don't know which other to use...

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 28, 2003, 06:01:00 AM

ah your post samuri was so long to read

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Post by: Obiwan76 on September 28, 2003, 06:27:00 AM

Blind samurai..... you are the MAN!!!!.......I am really suprised to see so many people eger to help. Hats off to everyone in this forum....

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Post by: burdo on September 28, 2003, 07:22:00 AM

Tis a great thing going here, but might I also suggest maybe lookng into why the game makers that dont have the option to switch controls couldnt be pursuaded into making it so for future games. I am sure there are other gamers out there that would gain something from this. Maybe not to the degree Krevco will but it could be a great thing to do for other gamers. maybe a x-s petition or emails to the game makers whatever just a suggestion. Again great job guys... wish I had come across this earlier so I could have participated.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 28, 2003, 08:11:00 AM

QUOTE (Scan-C @ Sep 28 2003, 03:06 PM)

switching ic. in my technical calss we used an ic which had 18 pins in total. 5 input, 10 output, 2 v+ and one ground. we wired a battery to 2 of the input pins and 2 led's to every 2 of the output pins. now if voltage was supplied to the one v+ pins it switched one diode on, if to the other the other switched on.

can't explain it well but there should be ic's with more than 5 inputs and 10 outputs. then only a really small switch is needed

Yes! That is exactly what is needed for switching purposes!!!
Could you research more on that issue? Like what's the correct name of that IC, than it would be pssible to contact electronic manufacturer's and find the right one, that would be awesome....

QUOTE

wish I had come across this earlier so I could have participated.

burdo and everybody else who wished that they could help, you can help us to research more on this switching IC!!!
Plus your input and support is already the best help!

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Post by: Krevco on September 28, 2003, 09:15:00 AM

QUOTE (burdo @ Sep 28 2003, 04:22 PM)

Ya know, thats what pisses me off the most!! I went to E3 this year. I SPECIFICALLY asked multiple devs if they would be supporting the southpaw option. I remember a clear conversation with the producer of Freedom Fighters, and he said he had heard my complaint from other gamers and would definitely be putting in the option.

He didnt.

I also talked to the Splinter Cell devs, Deus Ex 2, Thief 3, Far Cry, COnflict Desert Storm 2, Call of Duty, Men of Valor..and others. I asked them all about this issue. And all of them agreed that it is only a few hours work to program the keymaps and craete the menu options. Now I'm willing to bet only a handful of them go throught with it (Both Splinter Cell 1 and Desert Storm 1 did NOT offer the option).

I mean, Im not even a lefty..but I would assume there has to be some pissed off lefties out there somewhere.

QUOTE

so I sat down went to azcentral.com, being the arizonian i am and submitted this to them as a article idea:

AWESOME!! HaHA..while the last thing I ever ask for is attention, I think that upping the rep of gamers, especially the superstars on this board, is really a good thing. I hope it sees print and maybe shines a light on this site. Well done!!

About the switching sticks option..you guys dont have to bother with including the functionality of switching it back to default. I have a few extras. But if you do it a sa side project, I'm sure it would be useful to some people. Maybe an item for sale on customxbox.net? I bet it would sell a few units. I sure would have bought 1

I just ordered Splinter Cell from EbGames!!! I never thought I would be able to play it, and now it's on the way!!! HAHAHA!!111oneone

(I know some people think it sucks, and hell, I might also, at least now I can judge for myself!!!)

THANKS GUYS!!!!!

..keep me posted..

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 28, 2003, 09:18:00 AM

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Post by: chilin_dude on September 28, 2003, 10:29:00 AM

I love this thread
Glad it all got sorted
This is what life should be like
Peace and helpfullness for one another!

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Post by: Krevco on September 28, 2003, 04:57:00 PM

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 28, 2003, 05:05:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 01:55 AM)

Just finished mine

works like a charm. I say this project is go for "launch" now.

Did you try it on S controller or Original?

Did you get perfect response in games?

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Post by: t_rex on September 28, 2003, 05:13:00 PM

anyone mirrored them?

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Post by: mirx999 on September 28, 2003, 05:29:00 PM

QUOTE (Blind_Samurai @ Sep 28 2003, 09:05 PM)

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 01:55 AM)

Just finished mine

works like a charm. I say this project is go for "launch" now.

Did you try it on S controller or Original?

Did you get perfect response in games?

Original. click functions are reversed, yes. Response seems normal.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 28, 2003, 06:02:00 PM

QUOTE (t_rex @ Sep 29 2003, 02:13 AM)

Pics arent displaying for me

anyone mirrored them?

I don't know why, villagephotos.com stopped displaying the last 4 pics

......
I 'll try to get them back up so everybody can again enjoy the "frankenstein" controller

.....

EDIT: Limited bandwidth expired......

Anybody know a good place to host pics?

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Post by: Scan-C on September 28, 2003, 06:48:00 PM

QUOTE (Blind_Samurai @ Sep 28 2003, 05:11 PM)

QUOTE (Scan-C @ Sep 28 2003, 03:06 PM)

QUOTE

wish I had come across this earlier so I could have participated.

burdo and everybody else who wished that they could help, you can help us to research more on this switching IC!!!
Plus your input and support is already the best help!

it's nearly 5 am here and i'm searching my ass off for this ic. can't find it.if i don't find it till tomorrow i'll drive over to my old school and ask my teacher. shouldn't be that hard to get that thing

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Post by: mirx999 on September 28, 2003, 07:05:00 PM

The big IC is an ST. It reads:

92T163/JFL
M220601289
MALTA

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 28, 2003, 07:23:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 04:05 AM)

The big IC is an ST. It reads:

92T163/JFL
M220601289
MALTA

Where did you find this IC?
I checked Newark and Digikey but they didn't have it....

Do you have more details on that IC?

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Post by: t_rex on September 28, 2003, 07:44:00 PM

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Post by: SKoT on September 28, 2003, 07:46:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 04:28 AM)

I read the top of it through the massive jumble of wires coming out of my controller.

lol yup

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Post by: Krevco on September 28, 2003, 08:14:00 PM

*group kisses board*

LOL

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Post by: mirx999 on September 28, 2003, 08:15:00 PM

OHHHHHH ok. I thought you guys were looking for a schematic for the IC that's there, so you could switch it around without having to desolder the sticks.

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Post by: Scan-C on September 28, 2003, 08:51:00 PM

better then doing nothing

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Post by: mirx999 on September 28, 2003, 09:13:00 PM

alright so we'll need an IC that can take input from up to 10 points and output them to another 10, and also change 10 completely different points at the same time, at the flip of a single switch. I'm pretty sure this kind of IC does exist, but i'm not sure exactly what kind it is. Blind_samurai did you find (as I did) that 6 of the 14 points seem to just be linked to GND? I suppose that those 6 (or maybe just one of them, i'd have to make some measurements) can just be permanently grounded, and the other 8 are the only ones relevant to the function of the stick? It's possible that only the 3 points on the 2 sides of the sticks are all that is relevant to directional movement. My theory is that these 3 points measure the force in both the x and y directions (kind of like the triggers work in just one direction, it's the same premise). I'm going to try and ground the sticks to a common GND point and see if the function remains the same. I'll also test where the 2 points that i didn't mention lead. All of this will have to wait until tomorrow, though, since it's late now and i need some sleep.

Edit: Exhaustion + Typing = Typos

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Post by: Krevco on September 28, 2003, 10:36:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 06:13 AM)

LOL, at first this project was to help me out. Now I think you guys are seeing just how far you can take it!! You truly are some smart, talented and kind people. All this stuff is so far over my head it's pathetic

I'm loving the switch idea, but I am honestly glad to have just the reversed sticks. My lord tho, Im not gonna stop ya!! ROCK ON GUYS!!! Please keep me posted on your progress too. This is so fucking cool!! I have waited years just for the stick reversal, now I may have a lil tricked out mod pad!!! Cool friggin beans!! While youre at it, throw er a lil paintjob!!! j/k I'm not demanding at all, I would take it and love it even if it required an anal probe before each useage... I'm just so giddy, I cant wait to use this badboy!!

upon the controllers arrival, Splinter Cell = OWNED..FINALLY!!!

ROFL!!! I'm literally laughing liek an insane hyena I'm so friggin pleased with this boards efforts on this. I owe you guys BIG TIME!!

Post pics also, I wanna see these monsters from birth to adulthood!!

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Post by: Scan-C on September 29, 2003, 05:31:00 AM

how far can a simple idea be taken before nothing more fits inside the controller

my teacher couldn't tell me the name of the ic but he ordered 5 which have 20 inputs and 10 outputs. isn`'t this exactly what is needed? as soon as i get them i'll let you guys know the complete name

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 29, 2003, 06:26:00 AM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 06:13 AM)

Yes, mirx999 I have noticed that thing too!!! Most of the wires on the stick are ground! Today I am going to try it, and maybe it would be possible to use just a switch with 6 inputs & 6 outputs (or even less depending on results of testings!) for each thumbstick. Of course 2 of such switches would have to be used, but in that case no IC would be needed...Thanks for the note...

Scan-C keep us posted on that IC!!!

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Post by: Palmore on September 29, 2003, 06:51:00 AM

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Post by: Twister22 on September 29, 2003, 07:34:00 AM

QUOTE (Blind_Samurai @ Sep 29 2003, 02:02 AM)

QUOTE (t_rex @ Sep 29 2003, 02:13 AM)

Pics arent displaying for me

anyone mirrored them?

I don't know why, villagephotos.com stopped displaying the last 4 pics

......
I 'll try to get them back up so everybody can again enjoy the "frankenstein" controller

.....

EDIT: Limited bandwidth expired......

Anybody know a good place to host pics?

i will host the pic....

PM me...

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Post by: SKoT on September 29, 2003, 11:18:00 AM

Id love to be able to do this if i werent retarded in this field.

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Post by: Senates684 on September 29, 2003, 01:05:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 29 2003, 08:16 PM)

AFAIK they are for the clicking function...

This is getting kinda far away from the post, But it just got my thinking...Some games like halo and stuff you have to hold down the button to duck...I think it would be kinda cool where you could just flip a switch and it would automatically do it for you...

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Post by: Krevco on September 29, 2003, 03:02:00 PM

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Post by: Ps2Socom on September 29, 2003, 07:51:00 PM

the greatest game on xbox: ][-][ //-\ ][_ (( ))

i used the controller setting southpaw it there, have u played that ?

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Post by: Krevco on September 29, 2003, 07:52:00 PM

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Post by: mkollek on September 29, 2003, 08:11:00 PM

Xbox-Scene to the rescueeeeeeeeeeeeee....!!!

I love this place

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Post by: Krevco on September 30, 2003, 07:08:00 AM

shmumpetbump

any news for me gentlemen?

*pants*

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on September 30, 2003, 07:24:00 AM

well due to me relocating all of my computer equipment, the controller will ship today. The process shall begin.

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Post by: Worship on September 30, 2003, 07:53:00 AM

Samurai, much love dude. You are the man!

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Post by: Krevco on September 30, 2003, 08:00:00 AM

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Post by: Worship on September 30, 2003, 08:17:00 AM

QUOTE (Krevco @ Sep 30 2003, 05:00 PM)

that picture gave my brain nerve damage..

Then how 'bout Shania...

user posted image

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Post by: Krevco on September 30, 2003, 08:23:00 AM

better. closer. warmer.

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Post by: gonkle on September 30, 2003, 08:52:00 AM

I see that you are talking about that IC,
I think its an USB HID Controller, like this one:
http://www.cypress.c.....d Peripherals

Some fit guys most be able to programm such a thing, but M$ uses some own protocolls.
I started a tread about this, but no response that time.

ot: is it possible to put the 4 Wires to the outside and plug them on a Aracade joystick?
I know the 4way work like the d-pad, but is there a way to switch between anaolog and digital on a selfmade arcade stick?

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Post by: BurnOmatic on September 30, 2003, 06:18:00 PM

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Post by: Potato Bob on September 30, 2003, 06:29:00 PM

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Post by: Krevco on September 30, 2003, 07:00:00 PM

See how simple it is!!! If only all devs were as thoughtful as MS published games..Mofuckers!!!!

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Post by: Juggerbot on September 30, 2003, 08:03:00 PM

This seems very easy, since both analog sticks are the same, they SHOULD fit in the opposite slots, if someone donates a controller to me, I'm sure i'll be able to do this.

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on September 30, 2003, 08:21:00 PM

QUOTE (mirx999 @ Sep 30 2003, 11:15 PM)

QUOTE (Juggerbot @ Oct 1 2003, 12:03 AM)

This seems very easy, since both analog sticks are the same, they SHOULD fit in the opposite slots, if someone donates a controller to me, I'm sure i'll be able to do this.

you fail to realize that even if they fit in each other's slots, their behavior will not change. just switching them doesn't work. the sticks have to be connected to one side of the PCB, and come out the hole on the opposite side. it's not as simple as you think (though it IS pretty easy)

Hehe, seemed SO EASY to me at first, just solder here and that's it I thought, but ended with a shitload of wires insted.....

....but still works though......

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Post by: akindbro4u on November 03, 2003, 09:47:00 PM

i have been working on the techtv thing for you

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Post by: BigGanja on November 04, 2003, 07:21:00 AM

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Post by: BigGanja on November 04, 2003, 07:40:00 AM

Sorry

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Post by: akindbro4u on November 04, 2003, 01:43:00 PM

just have to keep bumping untill krevco gets his controller and is ready to play some real rainbow six.

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Post by: Krevco on November 04, 2003, 05:09:00 PM

so will some of you play some co-op with me when i get R6?

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Post by: Softco Industries on November 04, 2003, 05:19:00 PM

On XBConnect or XLink? Their finally selling only the Xbox communicators... I gotta buy one, then I can really kick all ur asses online! I'LL TAKE YA ALL ON AT ONCE! Muhuhahahah. 598,923,932 vs Me. I'll post the results after someone else posts.

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Post by: Softco Industries on November 04, 2003, 05:22:00 PM

Damn, too late. It seems I won, with firing over 10,000,000,000 bullets.

Crap! You all won! Anyways, who's got a good connection? We'll all play together one friday or saturday night, it'll be w0rd! I mean awesome! LOL. Wtf? STOP IT! No! Lol. That isn't cool. Don't laugh. I know ur gona say LMAO. I just said it so myself. LMAO!!!

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Post by: Softco Industries on November 04, 2003, 05:57:00 PM

Aite, you cover my ass from uptop, take out the terrorists as me and akindbro4u rush into the highway tunnel. Cover our asses or we'll die, there's lots of terrorists in that level. Then, you come down and rush in with us (get a good pistol though). Yeah!

Does R6: RS support headset?

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Post by: SigTom on November 04, 2003, 07:56:00 PM

Yup, its the friggin coolest thing in the world, Ive been wanting this in an XBox tactical games forever. Ill hook up with some peeps on XBC or Link this weekend, I need to set them up to work on my xbox, and I dont use Live anymore.

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Post by: katz on November 05, 2003, 05:11:00 AM

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Post by: Mikey@streetrace on November 05, 2003, 07:36:00 AM

As i only come across the site the other day i have been reading post about modding my xbox. I was really touched at how people have gone out there way to help a fellow member and that game developers and Shitsoft should take note of the developments and see how they could of helped you so much but did nothing. Hope everything goes well for you Krevco and well done to everyone that helped

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Post by: Krevco on November 05, 2003, 10:25:00 AM

QUOTE (Mikey@streetrace @ Nov 5 2003, 11:36 AM)

you had me at shitsoft.....you had me at shitsoft.

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Post by: Krevco on November 06, 2003, 10:04:00 AM

Who wants to play R63 tonight? Im thinkin 10pm EST? My friend and I are playing, but we need 2 more for 4 man co-op. IM me at mizzirf1 or PM me if ya wanna play.

I dont have the controller yet, but i dont think I need it for R63, as it has a Southpaw option. It might come today, but I'm at work until 9pm.

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Post by: camjojosh on November 06, 2003, 04:16:00 PM

QUOTE (Krevco @ Nov 6 2003, 08:04 PM)

but I'm at work until 9pm.

Bugger

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Post by: akindbro4u on November 07, 2003, 09:32:00 PM

bump

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Post by: katz on November 07, 2003, 10:08:00 PM

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Post by: RobbieGSM on November 08, 2003, 05:30:00 AM

p.S I THINK WE SHOULD GO THE FORUMS THAT MADE FUN OR YOU AND SHOW THEM A LESSON OR TWO!!

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Post by: Potato Bob on November 08, 2003, 05:36:00 AM

ps

currently working on new ftp server called XFO by supllicium
will be up in time

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Post by: Alex200 on November 08, 2003, 07:11:00 AM

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Post by: Lightning|Striker on November 08, 2003, 01:30:00 PM

:cries: wow....

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on November 08, 2003, 01:58:00 PM

Thanks EVERYBODY who contributed to this thread during the whole time.....

Cheers!!!!!!!!

QUOTE

After LITERALLY, dozens of message boards laughed me off the boards, or insulted me, or told me 'tough shit, get over it'..

Something is definetely wrong with those people on those boards........I hope evrybody who said something bad to you now will eat shit and die!!!!

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Post by: CustomXbox.net on November 08, 2003, 02:03:00 PM

Glad everything worked out.
-Paul

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Post by: akindbro4u on November 08, 2003, 06:44:00 PM

way to go. Glad to see you got your controller and it is working for you. Enjoy all those games you have been missing out on.

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Post by: knoxville on November 08, 2003, 08:30:00 PM

www.customxbox.net ..

to you, nice to see a business that cares.. have fun with your crontroller krevco...we'll have to play some r6-3 sometime!

Knoxville

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Post by: Krevco on November 08, 2003, 09:25:00 PM

QUOTE (knoxville @ Nov 9 2003, 12:30 AM)

have fun with your crontroller krevco...we'll have to play some r6-3 sometime!

Knoxville

hey man, anytime. IM me and we'll play some co-op. I have gotten pretty nasty!!

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Post by: mirx999 on November 09, 2003, 08:44:00 PM

. damn, this thread sure has been a trip. To everyone who contributed, ROCK ON. Glad to see this project has finally been finished. Cheers to blind_samurai and Paul from customxbox.net. and cheers to Krevco for his patience

. And of course, the people who bumped this thread. And to brahm2 for his offer....hmm....damn i'm gonna be here all night if i list everyone...so thanks to everybody.

Mission Accomplished.

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Post by: kingshit on November 10, 2003, 10:12:00 AM

good work.

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Post by: itsjustme on November 10, 2003, 10:34:00 AM

this is an awesome thread.
with so much b/s cluttering up the boards it is nice to see a real worthwhile cause taken up.
enjoy your new controller bro and nice work on making the mod happen.
peace

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Post by: iquid-!ce on November 10, 2003, 10:46:00 AM

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Post by: thomes08 on November 10, 2003, 11:32:00 AM

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on December 24, 2003, 09:56:00 AM

..........
I would like to continue the project and see if we can make the reverse sticks when messing with the controller chip on the PCB or installing a switch to choose between reverse or normal......

Anybody interested in researching this matter farther?

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Post by: jp110099 on December 24, 2003, 11:19:00 AM

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Post by: blueinfinity on December 24, 2003, 12:09:00 PM

maybe a simple line reverse? but i doubt its that easy

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on December 24, 2003, 12:38:00 PM

Well when I first tried to solve this challenge, I directly resoldered contacts in the controller itself. I will set up a quick webpage to show the pics of early mods. The method I used required just soldering.....and you couldn't switch back to normal controls....plus there was a shitload of wires to stuff into the case......
What I try to do is maybe tinker with traces that come from the controller chip on the controller PCB and that way all that has to be done is just resolder traces.......
The second part is maybe making a switch to switch back to original controlls.....
I know the software part might sound tempting, but I don't know anything about coding and such.....

I'll try to post the website with pica ASAP just to show how I did it....

http://www.freewebs....controller.html

Well, that's how it came out.....not really pretty.....

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Post by: blueinfinity on December 24, 2003, 09:13:00 PM

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Post by: blueinfinity on December 24, 2003, 09:14:00 PM

jsu ta thought

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Post by: vona_a on December 24, 2003, 09:56:00 PM

Can you get some good closeup pics of the Circuit board around the sticks? (eventually I'll take mine apart again)

what we can use is simple tristate devices, or busswitches..... very easy to setup, shouldn't be too hard to create an IC for too. One setting all 8-9 wires go to the right pad, next setting they go to the left. (and same for other pad).

To do it properly though, you'd have to cut traces, and then resolder to the existing traces, or resolder back on the IC's (a bit more challenging).

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Post by: Blind_Samurai on December 25, 2003, 04:31:00 PM

QUOTE (vona_a @ Dec 25 2003, 01:56 AM)

Sorry, but I those were the only pics I took while I experimented on my controller....

After that, I soldered everything back to normal.

What I was thinking at first just to reverse the controlls is to sacrifice my already veteran controller and trace where each trace (from the stick) goes to which pic on the chip on the back of the PCB. The idea for this method I got from this tutorial http://www.xbox-scen...a-connector.php
If to find the right pins, all that has to be done is lift up certain pins ( most likely 8) and rewire the traces under them. I think it would be much easier than all the wiring like before....

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Post by: akindbro4u on December 25, 2003, 04:46:00 PM

that sounds like the most logical way to solve that problem blind_samurai

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Post by: vona_a on December 25, 2003, 07:24:00 PM

QUOTE

If to find the right pins, all that has to be done is lift up certain pins ( most likely 8) and rewire the traces under them. I think it would be much easier than all the wiring like before....

yeah, I'll agree thats the easiest way of doing it.

but if you want to make it reverseable (ie with a switch to go from normal to soutpaw) then I still think using a few tristating chips is the best way to go.

xboxscene.org forums

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