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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: reactions on August 23, 2004, 08:02:00 AM
all hardrive/chipset talk-aside - anyone believe that they will restructure the xbox where the components dont weigh 20 + lbs like the original xbox?

i actually believe it will weigh lighter - simply because they wont need the bulky dvd, harddrive, power -   besides everyone made fun of the xbox for being such a lardass - its feelings are hurt - no doubt will go on a diet - that fat tubby
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: gainpresence on August 23, 2004, 09:37:00 AM
Your Xbox weighs 20+lbs? All I've delt with were around 8.5 lbs  :P

Anyway, I think next one will be smaller than the current, and without a (standard) hard drive.. should be lighter.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Rohaq on August 23, 2004, 10:47:00 AM
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i actually believe it will weigh lighter - simply because they wont need the bulky dvd, harddrive, power

Huh? How's it going to work without a way of reading media and no power supply? XD
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: oxjeremy334 on August 26, 2004, 12:07:00 AM
It's going to run on batteries and cartridge games...
But seriously, I like the 8.5 lbs with the quick detatch controllers, no drunkass has tripped ovet the controller cord and ripped it off the shelf.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: cyberdork33 on August 26, 2004, 10:03:00 AM
QUOTE (oxjeremy334 @ Aug 26 2004, 07:07 AM)
It's going to run on batteries and cartridge games...
But seriously, I like the 8.5 lbs with the quick detatch controllers, no drunkass has tripped ovet the controller cord and ripped it off the shelf.

 good point, have had a controller fly out someone's hand from this, but the box stayed in place...
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: reactions on August 26, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
QUOTE (oxjeremy334 @ Aug 26 2004, 07:07 AM)
It's going to run on batteries and cartridge games...
But seriously, I like the 8.5 lbs with the quick detatch controllers, no drunkass has tripped ovet the controller cord and ripped it off the shelf.

 yah i feel the weight is good in the regard of havinga  drunk friend walking into it and surviving - still wont forget how weird it was pulling out the xbox from the box - holy shit this thing is heavy!
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Paintballer on August 27, 2004, 12:59:00 PM
I imagine it will be lighter than the frist.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: the black box on August 27, 2004, 01:48:00 PM
It's probably going to be lighter and smaller than the first one.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Cxyer on August 27, 2004, 07:51:00 PM
It's been rumored the the XBOX 2 (also known as XBOX NEXT, XBOX II, and XENON) won't have a hard drive, making many gamers worried that some of the coolest advantages of the XBOX over other gaming systems will be lost.

Today the XBOX has a hard drive that is used to store saved games, store game data which greatly speeds up game loading, for storing downloads from XBOX Live, and for storing MP3s and WMAs which can be used as background music in many games.

Today M-Systems CEO Dov Moran has confirmed in an interview with Israeli business journal Globes Online that the "XBOX 2" will not have a hard drive, and instead will have a solid state flash card made by his company.

M-Systems, which many of us have never heard of, is the the Israeli company responsible for inventing flash memory. Flash memory is what digital cameras use to store photos.  Unlike the memory you use in your PC, flash memory does not require a power source to remember the data, and unlike a hard drive, there are no moving parts and it makes no noise.

This is great news - it means the next XBOX will be smaller, quieter, and lighter. This could also open an opportunity for MS to build a portable XBOX, although shrinking down the top-of-the-line video card and cpu's will still be a hefty challenge.

Today's XBOX hard drive is about 10 GBytes. Today most digital camera owners use memory cards less than 1/2 Gbyte, however M-Systems makes Fast Flash Disks up to 47 Gbytes, so there's no telling how much memory MS plans on stuffing in the XBOX 2.


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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: L337CH337 on August 27, 2004, 08:21:00 PM
But, of course, Flash Memory dosent have (Nearly) unlimited writes like a harddrive does...

And also, whats the fun in not having a good old harddrive? I want my system to sound on, not a wimpy whir of the fan.

And the game caches? Having flash memory could greatly increase loading times, which M$ Will not do bacause that'd lose money, unless they got good flash chips (Like hella good.)
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: miazmaticdotcom on August 28, 2004, 02:57:00 AM
They will probably use smaller (IE laptop) hard drives. That would cut down on size.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: ninjax on August 28, 2004, 07:26:00 AM
miazmaticdotcom has a point.  laptop hard drives are probably the way to go.  I have heard a million times that Laptop HDD's are too expensive, but what is the diffrence between an 8 gig Laptop HDD and a regular 8 gig HDD, they are both useless to most people on earth.  Im sure there are a million 5-8 giggers laying around for MS to use.  Just MHO
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Ice9Tech on August 28, 2004, 08:35:00 AM
I know the Xbox 2 will way more than YOUR mom... Not mine though... Are you fucked in the head?  That's 450lbs of extreme power! Wizzoot!
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Rohaq on August 28, 2004, 02:31:00 PM
QUOTE (Cxyer @ Aug 28 2004, 02:51 AM)
It's been rumored the the XBOX 2 (also known as XBOX NEXT, XBOX II, and XENON) won't have a hard drive, making many gamers worried that some of the coolest advantages of the XBOX over other gaming systems will be lost.

This rumour is older than Jesus wink.gif
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: reactions on August 28, 2004, 05:16:00 PM
QUOTE (Ice9Tech @ Aug 28 2004, 03:35 PM)
I know the Xbox 2 will way more than YOUR mom... Not mine though... Are you fucked in the head?  That's 450lbs of extreme power! Wizzoot!

 actually the fuck head is the one that posted up photos of 2 seriously shitty ass modded xbox box's that nobody on the forum liked!

and ur mom was fine last nite - she says to sand and paint again
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: thewickedjester on September 26, 2004, 02:13:00 PM
assuming that future trends follow the current ones, the xbox2 (or xenon, or whatever the hell they are calling it now) will be 5 feet tall and double as a car.

ps: its womb
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Juancster on October 22, 2004, 10:49:00 PM
I beleive its going to stay in the same weight area, dont know how they can stuff so many things into a smaller package.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: gamefreakgcb on October 24, 2004, 06:39:00 AM
Or they can invent a new type of HD. Everyhting is ministurizing. look at the past HD's(size of a CD-Rom) I still have one lying around, the big-ass floppy drive and whatnot. I dont think MS will take the XBox components in play anymore. My point in this wierd post? Even if MS decides to keep the XBox blueprint, it has things smaller then the XBox components to put in. Ive seen PSU a little bigger than a credit card that can manage 200 watts. Mobo(with 1.2GHz CPU built in and VGA, Sound, Network) the size that can fit in one DIN slot of the car. Im trying to build a carpc for which space is a big issue and just found out about these things
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Exige_ on October 26, 2004, 10:27:00 AM
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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: bucko on October 26, 2004, 12:26:00 PM
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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: chris1712 on October 26, 2004, 03:43:00 PM
well what about the new tiny hard drives used in ipod minis etc., i read in custompc that toshiba (or hitachi) have made an 80 gig 1.5" hard drive, its like the size of a thumb.

this is the 4 gig one use in mini ipods but i reaad they can get up to 60gb now.

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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: unknown_sidhu on October 26, 2004, 04:45:00 PM
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I heard the same thing about the new toshiba drive, except it being 3gb.
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: flashfreak on October 27, 2004, 04:59:00 AM
there are so many stupid qns like this. no1 knows, it will probably be less though cos a lot of ppl complained about the original xbox
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: Rebel-Soul on October 27, 2004, 07:46:00 AM
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Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: halo1 on October 30, 2004, 05:39:00 PM
QUOTE (reactions @ Aug 29 2004, 12:16 AM)
actually the fuck head is the one that posted up photos of 2 seriously shitty ass modded xbox box's that nobody on the forum liked!

and ur mom was fine last nite - she says to sand and paint again

I hope the New X-box2 console is a  little heavy---Simnply because my Freinds P2'  fell over dropped at one point casuing them to not function anymore. Heavy makes it more stable in case hit  a controler cord...
Title: Will The New Xbox2 Weigh More?
Post by: DisapearingAct on October 30, 2004, 08:09:00 PM
QUOTE (flashfreak @ Oct 27 2004, 01:02 PM)
there are so many stupid qns like this. no1 knows, it will probably be less though cos a lot of ppl complained about the original xbox

im the one that orginally posted the question - that account banned though - anyways - its not a stupid question -  it strives on the fact of advancing technologies that no doubt get smaller - i felt a big hinderance to the xbox is the weight - its a fucking tank -  and annoying to move around -  all my ps2 friends make fun of me because of my tank ass of a game system - but of course they dont get free games -    i say smaller the better - dont u think?  

how is that for a fucking question u asshole