Post by: LepPpeR on May 05, 2003, 03:12:00 PM
QUESTIONS OR COMMENT: [email protected]
I will be releasing Craxtion Version 2.0 w/MXM in the next couple of minutes. I need help with bug reports as this is a beta and will have bugs. Please post all bugs. If you wish to compliment me or BenJermey please make a seperate post because I would like to make this strictly bug reports.
Thanks and Enjoy....
LepPpeR
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This post has been edited by LepPpeR on Nov 23 2003, 03:18 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 05, 2003, 03:54:00 PM
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 09:34:00 AM
I added 6 game folders (all in working order from off my hd) and am only able to get 4 to run from the menu. I am going to use 2.0 now and see if it will work.
Odd thing is that the games will load from boXplorer off the disc.
any ideas?
Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 12:40:00 PM
If you used MenuX, this is a known error and is not on behalf of Craxtion but on MenuX. That is why I have now started to use MXM too.
Download Craxtion 2.0 Beta 2 and give it a shot with MXM.
-Use the default skin to start off and see what it does.
I think that you will enjoy it
LepPpeR
Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 12:42:00 PM
Bug reports Please
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 11:08:00 AM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 6 2003, 02:42 PM) |
| Beta 2 has been released allowing for use of any MXM (ONLY) skins. and is now using MXM Version K Bug reports Please LepPpeR |
I will give it a try. So far, (no offense BenJeremy), I dont really like any of the default skins I have seen for MXM, but I can't complain really because he has worked so hard.
I did like the "kojak" or "xbox3" (even though xbox3 was a bit off proportion) skins that were available for MenuX, and yes that was what I was using.
I will try again.
Thanks for the info, this is my first use of your program. (I guess I should have used an rw though, instead of being so darn confident having read your tutorial
)Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 10:25:00 AM
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 01:24:00 PM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 6 2003, 03:19 PM) |
| Have you tried BJ's new Matrix Skin. It is really Freaking Cool. It is the default skin for craxtion/MXM right now |
heh, yer gonna hate me for saying this, but I saw the screenshots he had and instantly did not like it...I am more simplistic... did you see what I meant by the kojak skin?
Its sad, I know, but I would grow very tired of the matrix if I kept seeing it every time I played a game...
Just my personal thoughts...
He is very talented though, just not my thing.
Any ideas on how I could get something like kojak (simple) going with MXM ?
This post has been edited by jz28 on May 6 2003, 08:34 PM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 01:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 6 2003, 02:24 PM) | ||
heh, yer gonna hate me for saying this, but I saw the screenshots he had and instantly did not like it...I am more simplistic... did you see what I meant by the kojak skin? Its sad, I know, but I would grow very tired of the matrix if I kept seeing it every time I played a game... Just my personal thoughts... He is very talented though, just not my thing. Any ideas on how I could get something like kojak (simple) going with MXM ? |
I know a bunch of people are working on Skins. I will get back to you on this when I find something simplistic. I yes, Craxtion using MenuX is easy to skin aswell if you continue using it.
Post by: BenJeremy on May 06, 2003, 01:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 6 2003, 03:24 PM) | ||
heh, yer gonna hate me for saying this, but I saw the screenshots he had and instantly did not like it...I am more simplistic... did you see what I meant by the kojak skin? Its sad, I know, but I would grow very tired of the matrix if I kept seeing it every time I played a game... Just my personal thoughts... He is very talented though, just not my thing. Any ideas on how I could get something like kojak (simple) going with MXM ? |
Heh heh... that's why you can put more than one skin on a compilation, too. It will randomly select a different screen at boot up, if you want.
You can also use a plain skin, I think I'll also release the XDI skin in an XML format (It's created internally at the moment) so you can dump your MenuX screenshots into it and make your own, more simple, skins.
That's the power of an application like MXM. You choose how many bells and whistles you want to see.
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ May 6 2003, 03:44 PM) | ||||
Heh heh... that's why you can put more than one skin on a compilation, too. It will randomly select a different screen at boot up, if you want. You can also use a plain skin, I think I'll also release the XDI skin in an XML format (It's created internally at the moment) so you can dump your MenuX screenshots into it and make your own, more simple, skins. That's the power of an application like MXM. You choose how many bells and whistles you want to see. |
this is why I said you were so talented.
I read just about every post you have made and remember the very first version of MXM you put out.
I had no idea that MenuX caused these problems with launching games until I made a disc. I guess I should have searched, but I dont know why its there if it is buggy.
I am really looking forward to a basic skin like those I mentioned earlier (kojak and xbox3 for MenuX). I had found them in the "download themes" menu of craxtion.
Thanks for the info guys, I will try out my disc when I get home in an hour.
Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 02:50:00 PM
thanks
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 03:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 6 2003, 04:50 PM) |
| yeah, let me know how it works out. thanks LepPpeR |
hrm...
on first boot it takes a REALLY REALLY long time to get into the menu... then, there is "media x menu" homebrew as the first option, and the matrix background...
then the games are listed, and it takes a sec or two to select them.
Seems like it would make a decent dashboard, but I liked the speed / simplicity of the other menu, menux...maybe I am doing something wrong? or not enough?
this was just a test by doing the default mxm menu for a 6 game multidisc, each cd was 700 megs or so.
Post by: BenJeremy on May 06, 2003, 03:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 6 2003, 05:32 PM) | ||
hrm... on first boot it takes a REALLY REALLY long time to get into the menu... then, there is "media x menu" homebrew as the first option, and the matrix background... then the games are listed, and it takes a sec or two to select them. Seems like it would make a decent dashboard, but I liked the speed / simplicity of the other menu, menux...maybe I am doing something wrong? or not enough? this was just a test by doing the default mxm menu for a 6 game multidisc, each cd was 700 megs or so. |
If it took a REALLY long time on a DVD compilation, then it's likely picky media (or the drive)... I've finally started wearing out one of my CD-RW test discs, and it behaves the same way; but the same image burned to the 'fresher' CD-Rw boots up nicely.
As for selection speed, you don't have to wait for the smooth scrolling to bump the selection up again, and smooth scrolling can be shut off in the skin you use (and a short wav file can be used).
I expect there will be some spiffy DVD-optimized skins soon, as skinners get comfortable with the system.
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 03:48:00 PM
It takes roughly 1-2 mins to boot, where as with the same media, and same content (games) it takes only 20 secs or so with the menux version.
I wish I knew a way around the menux bug, it really seemed to do the trick, but I will continue testing, as I think you both have done a superb job.
thanks again.
btw, this is exactly how I would like it to look:
http://www.writersgallery.com/MXM/NewMXMSS01.jpg
(from benjeremy's site)
This post has been edited by jz28 on May 6 2003, 11:34 PM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 06, 2003, 02:36:00 PM
Note, MenuX work 95% of the time. It is the 5% people complain about.
Good Luck and Keep Testing
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 06, 2003, 02:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 6 2003, 06:36 PM) |
| update to version 2.0 beta 2 - it should solve this problem. Note, MenuX work 95% of the time. It is the 5% people complain about. Good Luck and Keep Testing LepPpeR |
sorry, i have to ask, when you say update to beta 2, what problem are you referring to it solving?
I just ask because when you said it, earlier up the thread, I updated. I am going to give it another go.
What exactly causes menux to fail?
thanks.
Post by: jz28 on May 07, 2003, 07:05:00 AM
| QUOTE (BenJeremy @ May 6 2003, 07:32 PM) |
| Nobody's sure what makes MenuX fail. I've tried figuring it out, but to no avail. Certain combinations just cause it to screw up. That's the problem with hacked apps.... there's no source to fix them when they are buggy. |
i went back and did some reading and came across this on a google search:
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Media X Menu Version 0.9h Beta posted by Iriez on 03/02/03
Beta 0.9h
* MenuX Compatibility - MXM's default.xbe can be dropped in as a direct replacement
for the MenuX app... it will use the XDI file to configure the games, and also use the
PNGs and sounds from the MenuX media directory as a 'skin', unless another skin is loaded
(If 'real' MXM skins are available, the MenuX 'skin' will be randomly selected with the
other choices).
Was broken on 0.9g - That's what I get for not testing completely!! I am very sorry, while
I could rattle off a slew of excuses, it doesn't change the fact that I screwed up.
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and if that is the case, cant i just build the menux iso as usual, but before burning, open the iso and put your xbe file in it instead of the menux default.xbe? I think so, I read your documentation.
To me, it would seem like a good idea then, to have an option in craxtion, to use "menux style menu" as an option for multigame disc, and have it use all the files necessary as usual (xdi, png files etc) but then use mxm's default.xbe file.
does this make sense?
Post by: jz28 on May 07, 2003, 07:38:00 AM
Thanks again for the quick reply.
Maybe this thread will help anyone else with a similar issue.
Post by: jz28 on May 07, 2003, 12:36:00 PM
apparantly, my idea didnt work yet...(using mxm to load a menux theme)
I used craxtion to make the iso with menux and the "kojak" theme, then extracted the iso, copied the mxm xbe file over the default.xbe file, and recreated an iso.
so, I will have more details once I get a chance to test the game loading (which I dont think will have problems)...I still wonder why the theme didnt work...
Post by: LepPpeR on May 07, 2003, 01:30:00 PM
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 07, 2003, 03:02:00 PM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 7 2003, 05:30 PM) |
| I advise people, when using craxtion to stick with MXM only themes. I am aware of bugs with the themes (mix and match) so I try to stick with MXM only. Right now the default skin for craxtion MXM is the Matrix so yes, it does seem like it failed to load the background. LepPpeR |
Hey!
It was a media problem, I have been using an rw a few too many times it seems.
THIS METHOD WORKS GREAT!
you CAN in fact use a menux theme.
is it possible lepper to do as I proposed above? TOTALLY scrap the MenuX xbe file that is placed into the iso, and use the MXM one instead? I propose that to make a mulitgame disc, you can click "menu-x" style, and then use one of the themes that are available for it, and when craxtion creates the iso, have it insert the mxm default.xbe in place of the other one.
This method works great...
My new disc (just a dvdr this time, instead of an rw) works perfectly! It boots in about 13 seconds, to the game list, WITH the correct theme. This is immensely helpful. I hope my suggestion might make it into the next version.
Thanks guys!
Post by: LepPpeR on May 07, 2003, 03:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 7 2003, 06:02 PM) | ||
Hey! It was a media problem, I have been using an rw a few too many times it seems. THIS METHOD WORKS GREAT! you CAN in fact use a menux theme. is it possible lepper to do as I proposed above? TOTALLY scrap the MenuX xbe file that is placed into the iso, and use the MXM one instead? I propose that to make a mulitgame disc, you can click "menu-x" style, and then use one of the themes that are available for it, and when craxtion creates the iso, have it insert the mxm default.xbe in place of the other one. This method works great... My new disc (just a dvdr this time, instead of an rw) works perfectly! It boots in about 13 seconds, to the game list, WITH the correct theme. This is immensely helpful. I hope my suggestion might make it into the next version. Thanks guys! |
that is why I ask for them.
I will be suspending work on Craxtion for the next week for College Reason but I will still be here collecting data and feedback from you people.
Thanks again my friend.
LepPeR
Post by: jz28 on May 08, 2003, 05:38:00 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 08, 2003, 08:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 8 2003, 08:38 AM) |
| I GOT IT! I dont know why I didnt try this before, but its SO SIMPLE! after installing craxtion (extracting, whatever), go into the "multifiles" folder and (for backup purposes) rename the default.xbe to default.xbe.menux . After that, copy over Benjeremy's default.xbe from his MXM k version. Create a multigame iso as usual by using Menu X Disk Wizard. Everything will work the same. I have verified the iso by extracting it, and it did infact use the MXM xbe file. I dont know why I didnt see this before... Hopefully this will help someone else out there.... Thanks for the great tools guys! |
and everything works fine and what not. what skin does it use?
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 08, 2003, 09:14:00 AM
After I did some research and saw that Benjeremy said they were interchangable from menux's stand point, I decided to play around.
seems to work just fine!
I like kojak for some reason, probably because of its simplicity...although I really like the "xbox3" theme, but stuff doesnt line up properly...
Post by: jz28 on May 08, 2003, 10:30:00 AM
I initially tried it with menu x, the "xbox3" theme...I talk about these themes because when you open craxtion there is a themes list beside tools and updates in the file menu...
I downloaded some from the list and the few I liked were simple...I am not sure if it is the one in jsrf/sega gt or not, since I dont have that disc.
I think you can preview them inside of craxtion though. Take a look...
The theme called Kojak lines up PERFECTLY though, yet it is very simple, but I likey.
It may be a fault of the skin designer, as I doubt it is your mistake.
Post by: bbagnall on May 08, 2003, 07:08:00 PM
1. When selecting the folder with Harry Potter, it said it could not find a valid default.xbe file. I think what caused this message was the huge number of files in the Harry Potter root directory.
2. Once Craxtion made the .ISO, I went to Nero to burn it and it said the specified block size did not match size of the file. (Correct/Ignore) I chose ignore, and it burnt fine.
So in the end, the whole multifile DVD worked great anyway, including Harry Potter.
Post by: LepPpeR on May 08, 2003, 07:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (bbagnall @ May 8 2003, 10:08 PM) |
| I've got 2 semi-bugs to report for Craxtion 2.0 beta 2 with MXM 0.9k: 1. When selecting the folder with Harry Potter, it said it could not find a valid default.xbe file. I think what caused this message was the huge number of files in the Harry Potter root directory. 2. Once Craxtion made the .ISO, I went to Nero to burn it and it said the specified block size did not match size of the file. (Correct/Ignore) I chose ignore, and it burnt fine. So in the end, the whole multifile DVD worked great anyway, including Harry Potter. |
Most likely, one aspect that I know that I have to fix is that a valid default.xbe will be rejected by craxtion. This happens rarely and I believe that Harry Pothead was one of the games.
I am glad that it worked great. I do not know what the invalid block ## was all about But I am glad that you did not have any problems running it for making coasters suck.
Enjoy
LepPpeR
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 12, 2003, 02:59:00 PM
Recently.. I starting using CRAXTION 2 Beta2 with MXM included. I made a single multgame disk using multi in MXM / GDF mode.
The disk worked flawless.. but the endless movie clips.. and all the MATRIX stuff didn't appeal to me.
I also prefer my OWN skins.. (a download option from CRAXTION THEMES BTW) so I dropped MXM in as a replacement for the MENUX.
Many.. this was sweet. 40 Disks burned.. average 2-4 games per disk.. and the menu functions fine. No more of the MENUX bugs that caused 1-5 to 1-8 disks having a single title that would run via menu under the MENUX.
I'd like to congratulate LEPPPER for his continue success and hard work on CRAXTION.. and to BENJ for a sweet MENU system. (sorry I don't dig all the low quality flics)
Keep up the good work guys.
---
Since this is a bug report section... I noticed that the transition from the MENU SCREEN to the LOAD SCREEN is SO and not so clean a transition.. while using MXM as a drop in. Under older MENUX the transition was clean and fast.
Post by: LepPpeR on May 12, 2003, 05:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ May 12 2003, 05:59 PM) |
| Well.. it's been awhile since I posted any testing results using CRAXTION... Recently.. I starting using CRAXTION 2 Beta2 with MXM included. I made a single multgame disk using multi in MXM / GDF mode. The disk worked flawless.. but the endless movie clips.. and all the MATRIX stuff didn't appeal to me. I also prefer my OWN skins.. (a download option from CRAXTION THEMES BTW) so I dropped MXM in as a replacement for the MENUX. Many.. this was sweet. 40 Disks burned.. average 2-4 games per disk.. and the menu functions fine. No more of the MENUX bugs that caused 1-5 to 1-8 disks having a single title that would run via menu under the MENUX. I'd like to congratulate LEPPPER for his continue success and hard work on CRAXTION.. and to BENJ for a sweet MENU system. (sorry I don't dig all the low quality flics) Keep up the good work guys. --- Since this is a bug report section... I noticed that the transition from the MENU SCREEN to the LOAD SCREEN is SO and not so clean a transition.. while using MXM as a drop in. Under older MENUX the transition was clean and fast. |
Thank you HSD. See you soon.
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 13, 2003, 03:22:00 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on May 13, 2003, 06:14:00 PM
No hangups.. no problems.
Post by: LepPpeR on May 13, 2003, 07:23:00 PM
| QUOTE (HSDEMONZ @ May 13 2003, 09:14 PM) |
| Made 15 more Multi-Game Disks (DVD-R) and I have to say that CRAXTION.. after dropping MXM's default.xbe in place of the shitty MENUx xbe.. is working wonderfully... No hangups.. no problems. |
working on another update. Will be out soon.
Not to mention, I am working on a completely new program. Do not have a release date in time but is pretty damn cool.
LepPpeR
Post by: jz28 on May 14, 2003, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 14, 2003, 05:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (jz28 @ May 14 2003, 07:19 AM) |
| oh yeah? what kind of program? |
its a secret. I will notify you all upon completion
Post by: jz28 on May 15, 2003, 09:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ May 14 2003, 09:39 PM) | ||
its a secret. I will notify you all upon completion |
yer the man...I bet it will be something useful.
Good luck on your exams...a few friends of mine are finishing up this week also.
Post by: Mshake on May 30, 2003, 10:21:00 AM
not sure really what this is about but i have been using craxtion for extraction and creating iso purposes and only right now i have been trying to make multi game disc.... i have tried a few, all load flawlessly whether i am using menux or mxm default.xbe... tried dropping mxm xbe to replace the menux... it loads great as well...
My only problem would be all the name of my games seems to be displayed within a rectangular green box?.... or is there a way to simply remove that green block or make the titles or words clearer?...
any help would be appreciated...
sorry if i posted in here...
Post by: thetruethugg on May 30, 2003, 07:31:00 PM
| QUOTE (Xzigx @ May 30 2003, 10:25 PM) |
| If not is there a way to do it simply using gdf image?? |
Start > Run > CMD (nt/2k/xp)
cd <where gdfiimage is>
gdfimage.exe dirname isoimage
For instance
cd C:\xbox
gdfimage mameroms iso-image.iso
Simple enough..
Grr forgot \\ slashes so it shows..
Post by: D3AdMan on May 31, 2003, 11:28:00 AM
Post by: LepPpeR on May 31, 2003, 12:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (D3AdMan @ May 31 2003, 02:28 PM) |
| Hi, great work on Craxtion and MXM you guys!! I've made more than a few discs with the matrix skin and my own added movies and they all look fabulous. I just wanted you too know I also have been getting that odd error with block size and have been ignoring it and it burns just fine. Works got me pretty busy but when it settles down allittle I'm going to crank out a couple of MXM skins... |
I am glad that you like it.
Enjoy
LepPpeR
Post by: Mshake on June 01, 2003, 12:41:00 PM
would it be possible or easy for you to add a 'back' button feature to the iso creation/multi-game disc creation menu.. instead of having to cancel everytime i did something wrong....hehe..
kind regards
Post by: LepPpeR on June 01, 2003, 07:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mshake @ Jun 1 2003, 03:41 PM) |
| hi i notice something that may be possibly a suggestion of improvement to Craxtion.... would it be possible or easy for you to add a 'back' button feature to the iso creation/multi-game disc creation menu.. instead of having to cancel everytime i did something wrong....hehe.. kind regards |
yes, I have been planning this for a while I am just to lazy to re-write a lot of the code so that this would work. I will get back to it though, eventually.
LepPpeR
Post by: bbagnall on June 02, 2003, 02:01:00 PM
I added Outlaw Golf Holiday Edition (9 holes of Christmas) to a batch of games, and then when I booted up the DVD it surprised me by listing 2 additional Outlaw Golf items in the menu, both without screenshots.
I was puzzled at first, but then realized this is because the Outlaw Golf XMas CD has a total of 3 default.xbe files. One is a menu for launching Outlaw Golf XMas and several demo's, one is the main game, and one is a demo of or the retail Outlaw Golf. So it looks like MXM (or Craxtion... not sure) automatically checked the subdirs and added the default.xbe's it found.
If this is a feature, it would probably be preferable to be able to disable checking subdirectories.
Post by: BNZi on July 27, 2003, 07:48:00 AM
thanks in advance
Post by: BenJeremy on July 27, 2003, 07:49:00 AM
| QUOTE (BNZi @ Jul 27 2003, 11:48 AM) |
| Can you replace the menux default.xbe with the xbe of mxm 0.9k version only or is it possible with any version of mxm,for instance the 0.9n3 version. thanks in advance |
Any version after 0.9k, includingthe latest releases.
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Post by: ylsf on August 23, 2003, 09:09:00 AM
Today I got an error for the first time, the imaging "component" (which is not a part of Craxtion and was d/led seperately) crashed about half way through the process of adding a few ISOs to a MXM game disc. At that point, the Craxtion "perserving game folders" started running but then it came back and said that the multigame.iso was created sucessfully.. (although it was far from it)... It isn't a big deal, but just to let Lepper know. In this case it was obvious that it was completed doing what it should but in others it might not be...
Post by: shamelessbill on September 03, 2003, 06:09:00 AM
| QUOTE (bbagnall @ May 9 2003, 03:08 AM) |
| I've got 2 semi-bugs to report for Craxtion 2.0 beta 2 with MXM 0.9k: 1. When selecting the folder with Harry Potter, it said it could not find a valid default.xbe file. I think what caused this message was the huge number of files in the Harry Potter root directory. 2. Once Craxtion made the .ISO, I went to Nero to burn it and it said the specified block size did not match size of the file. (Correct/Ignore) I chose ignore, and it burnt fine. So in the end, the whole multifile DVD worked great anyway, including Harry Potter. |
I have the same invalid block size and got a coaster that locks up on a black screen. spyhunter and hockey were the games. I tried another w/spy and futurama but haven't burned yet as I got the invalid block error should I try it or is something wrong?
SB
Post by: Schweeze on September 03, 2003, 08:46:00 AM
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Post by: marilynpogo on September 06, 2003, 10:06:00 PM
how do i know if im using ocxreg right?
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