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Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: syntaxerror329 on January 09, 2008, 01:13:00 PM
I have been requested by one of my clients to repair a damaged PS3. It has a damaged Blu ray drive.
Something is wrong with the tray i think but i havn't seen it yet.

If i need to replace the Blu Ray drive will I be able to just purchase once and swap?

or does it have a security feature like xbox 360 with unique per drive key?

I guess if it has such a feature i could just swap logic/controller board in the drive and then it would match but i would like to know exactly what i am getting into before i say i can fix it.

Any info on this matter or links/tutorials that answer this would be great.

Thanks


This post has been edited by syntaxerror329: Jan 9 2008, 09:15 PM
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: pablot on February 04, 2020, 04:18:00 AM
I did a google search and came up empty.. Might be best to ask in a forum where people are actively taking the ps3 apart. If you do find the answer, please post it here.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: THREE_Consoles on January 10, 2008, 09:41:00 AM
Im not sure but im read in a forum that the BD-R drive also have a Key like the 360 drives.Without the Key you cant get a other drive worked.
And im guess its not only the Key becouse the BD FW are also found in the PS3 FW so if you have a BD drive with FW 1.0 and the BD FW in your PS3 is 1.1 it might be wont work even with the correct Key.
But thats only speculation


greetings to pablot!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)  The world is a littel place huh........

This post has been edited by THREE_Consoles: Jan 10 2008, 05:44 PM
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: THREE_Consoles on January 10, 2008, 11:09:00 AM
But if this with the key is true why will there be some PS3 BD replacement drives on the WEB???
I dont read anythink about a method to flash the key.The only PS3 dump/flash chip available are Infectus and this one dont have a PS3 support for a "change key" feature .

This post has been edited by THREE_Consoles: Jan 10 2008, 07:11 PM
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: THREE_Consoles on January 10, 2008, 01:48:00 PM
Ahhh....SORRY what ive seen was a PS3 BD replacement LASER! smile.gif
Not a whole drive.So im guess the drive really have a key too.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: syntaxerror329 on January 11, 2008, 01:33:00 AM
Wow, i really expected everyone to flame me and tell me this has been answered a million times as usual.

I guess i am glad i got some discussing going on this.


Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 11, 2008, 10:36:00 PM
Hmm, it's possible the drive isn't married, though. If it's anything like the previous PSX designs, there is no logic board (mobo connects to laser directly). If you've got another one that you don't mind opening, why not see if you can swap for testing purposes and post the results here?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: pablot on January 13, 2008, 05:03:00 AM
QUOTE(HotKnife420 @ Jan 12 2008, 07:12 AM) View Post

Hmm, it's possible the drive isn't married, though. If it's anything like the previous PSX designs, there is no logic board (mobo connects to laser directly). If you've got another one that you don't mind opening, why not see if you can swap for testing purposes and post the results here?


this design is different though. It has the whole BD part on a separate PCB that controls the DVD. So its possible that they have done some marrying process there.

Best thing would be if someone could just give it a try to see what happens.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 14, 2008, 01:44:00 AM
After some searching, I've found that they are, in fact, married.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: pablot on January 14, 2008, 09:27:00 AM
can we get a source on that?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: HotKnife420 on January 16, 2008, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(pablot @ Jan 14 2008, 06:03 PM) View Post

can we get a source on that?


http://www.xboxhacke...hp?topic=7450.0
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: pablot on January 16, 2008, 12:57:00 PM
Thanks!

QUOTE
I have confirmed that the drives cannot be swapped between consoles so there is a unique ID stored on the drive. I believe it will be on the Serial Eeprom MX25L1005. I have yet to swap this chip to confirm. This has been the least important issue I have had to deal with as far as PS3 failures so I haven't given it priority.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: pablot on January 19, 2008, 02:43:00 AM
update:

Seems that in some cases it is actually possible to flash it.. quote from the same xboxhacker thread as before (new post):

QUOTE

Just an update on this. We have found that "some" drives are indeed swappable but it depends on the revision of the board on the drive. If the drive revision does not match the drive doesn't seem to want to boot. We noticed a letter in a circle and then a number in the right corner of the drive board which if they match will allow us to swap the drives between the consoles. Their seems to be three major revisions of the boards.

So the question is why aren't the others swappable?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: THREE_Consoles on January 19, 2008, 08:11:00 PM
Ah jes there ive read this.

@ pablot

THX for the update.

Hmm....so we know for sure $ony does not use a uniqe drive key for every Console.I though maybe they use unique keys for every drive revision?(eg. D rev. 1.2>1.2=working / D rev. 1.2>1.3=non working)
But any way this is one good news more!
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: budmanv24 on January 23, 2008, 01:48:00 PM
Can the laser assembly or the entire sub-assembly with laser, motor, and rails be swapped without incurring issues?  I have a 40gb that quit reading discs and don't have a receipt for warranty repair.
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: Metal_Mania666 on February 22, 2008, 03:40:00 AM
QUOTE(budmanv24 @ Jan 23 2008, 11:24 PM) *

Can the laser assembly or the entire sub-assembly with laser, motor, and rails be swapped without incurring issues?  I have a 40gb that quit reading discs and don't have a receipt for warranty repair.


Yes, the laser, and in fact the entire drive can be swapped, but the control board is paired with the mainboard, so cannot be changed without flashing the key. I have personally changed over 100 of these with no issues so far, but make sure to get the same version of drive (old single lens laser or new twin lens) as the boards are not compatible
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: blahdah on May 19, 2008, 01:29:00 PM
I have swaped 3 blue ray laser neevr had a problem not 2 sure if the controller board is locked tho
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: quirmche on August 05, 2009, 07:36:00 PM
Is there a good tutorial on teardown and rebuild for blue ray drive?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: jetlip on December 10, 2010, 11:21:00 AM
I have a PS3 fat that I bought off craigslist and the blu ray drive is not in the system so I got ripped off what I was wondering can I buy a replacement drive off ebay?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: mechgamer123 on December 31, 2010, 04:20:00 PM
so if I bought a 60gb original ps3 with no blu ray drive could I buy a drive off ebay (from either a 20gb or 60gb "launch" model), and it would work fine?
Title: Can The Blu Ray Drive Be Swaped Without Flash?
Post by: MorboTron on January 25, 2011, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE(mechgamer123 @ Dec 31 2010, 06:20 PM) View Post

so if I bought a 60gb original ps3 with no blu ray drive could I buy a drive off ebay (from either a 20gb or 60gb "launch" model), and it would work fine?


Not unless that system comes with the driver board from the original drive.  The encryption key that matches the motherboard key is stored on a small BGA chip.  

I am unaware of any way to pull that key from the motherboard, but admittedly I have not kept on on the PS3 tech for the older consoles.  That being said, I have been told it is possible to remove the original chip from a driver board, and replace it on to a new Driver board (Must match revision number of the original board).