Post by: Xbox-Scene on August 06, 2007, 04:13:00 PM
Record Haul of Chipped Consoles Seized in UK Posted by XanTium | August 6 17:37 EST | News Category: Xbox_Xbox360 |
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Post by: proger on August 06, 2007, 03:06:00 PM
Post by: pirichios on August 06, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
QUOTE(proger @ Aug 6 2007, 11:42 PM) 
....Still not as bad as the US raids... because this guy seems like a total dumbass.
these are the bastards they should really be after
Post by: thepita on August 06, 2007, 03:18:00 PM
The punishment should be really harsh. People like this piece of shit give legite modders a bad name! Hope I see a section in the obituries for whoever this is! 
poor grammer I know.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on August 06, 2007, 03:54:00 PM
QUOTE
300-400 copied games discs
Clearly not backups. This guy took the information and skills and took it to the dark side, making money from the works of others illegally.
fuck him.
Post by: Chancer on August 06, 2007, 03:59:00 PM
I don't do piracy shit.
Edit
I will find out who this guy was though.
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over 5000 illegal discs
Taking the piss out of the system or what.
That market is a Sunday market and is full of stalls selling illegal shit. The cops could have busted loads more.
2 guys round the corner from me deal from a stall there and it pisses me off. Neither have jobs or pay tax and my tax money pays for their dole money which they use to further their illegal activities.
This post has been edited by Chancer: Aug 6 2007, 11:04 PM
Post by: impimpin206 on August 06, 2007, 04:10:00 PM
Post by: proger on August 06, 2007, 04:14:00 PM
QUOTE(impimpin206 @ Aug 6 2007, 06:10 PM) 
This is disheartening. People who rent, rip & return already cost the industry millions... but this type of thing is about as scumbag as it gets. Is it that hard to work for a living?
Apparantally so.
Post by: DynaMight on August 06, 2007, 04:17:00 PM
Post by: ckw0n on August 06, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
Thats a hell of an investment!
These are exactly the type of people that should be getting busted.
Post by: sgr215 on August 06, 2007, 04:26:00 PM
QUOTE(thepita @ Aug 6 2007, 05:54 PM)
I do not feel sorry for this person. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) The punishment should be really harsh. People like this piece of shit give legite modders a bad name! Hope I see a section in the obituries for whoever this is! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif) poor grammer I know.
I don't feel sorry for him but think the laws are a bit harsh, mostly due to affluent lobbyists willing to pay insane "see fee's". I agree he should get hefty restitution and a few years in prison. I just hope they don't make an example of him and give him decades in prison or worse. That should be reserved for the gangsters, rapists, and murderers.
I understand your anger though, the pirates are hurting our hobby as much as the murderers are ruining the hobby of owning/shooting guns safely. If only our politicians could understand the difference between a modchip and a pirated game. Then again, even if they did we don't have the type of money to lobby (aka talk to) our reps in a meaningful way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: recall2000 on August 06, 2007, 04:02:00 PM
QUOTE(sgr215 @ Aug 6 2007, 10:26 PM)
I just hope they don't make an example of him and give him decades in prison or worse. That should be reserved for the gangsters, rapists, and murderers.
This IS the UK. I live here too, and they don't even give the gangsters, rapists, and murderers decades in prison. He'll probably get a fine and a short, if not suspended sentence. There was a much worse case in the UK a couple of years ago where the scumbags were making hundreds of thousands and STILL signing on the dole!! Cheeky f**kers. I think the jail sentence was less than 2 years. So probably out in about a year at most.
I'm just glad to see my taxes going to pay for dole for scumbags from this country and not just the terrorist scum we let in
Post by: Rustmonkey on August 06, 2007, 04:14:00 PM
Well, at least this goes to show that criminals are still morons - although I have yet to see someone setting up a booth to sell cocaine... but hell, why not? Openly sell backups at a market? Idiots...
A little off topic: Is dole the UKs version of Welfare and TANF?
Post by: quall on August 06, 2007, 04:59:00 PM
Post by: Martomo on August 06, 2007, 04:32:00 PM
QUOTE(ckw0n @ Aug 7 2007, 12:21 AM)
246 wii's, 168 360's?!?!?!??!?!?!
Thats a hell of an investment!
These are exactly the type of people that should be getting busted.
I guess he was modding them.. to bad the customers isn't gonna get them back.. ouch
Stupid though, make a work of modding to earn money, there better paying stuff out there (i think)
Post by: frieko on August 06, 2007, 04:43:00 PM
Post by: telo{+} on August 06, 2007, 05:00:00 PM
Post by: Tanas on August 06, 2007, 05:18:00 PM
Post by: sabbath_dude on August 06, 2007, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Aug 6 2007, 11:50 PM)
A little off topic: Is dole the UKs version of Welfare and TANF?
Yeah dole = unemployment state benefit
Post by: Heet on August 06, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
If its true then this isn't just some little guy. Not EVEN comparable to what happened here. Glad they are weeding out the stupid. He was begging for it.
Post by: hassle on August 06, 2007, 06:02:00 PM
damn it that sux. do you think the cops will keep those as evidence or auction them off?
Post by: Vejita on August 06, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Martomo @ Aug 7 2007, 12:08 AM)
Stupid though, make a work of modding to earn money, there better paying stuff out there (i think)
Not for uneducated, pirating drug addict scum like them.
Post by: africamagical on August 06, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(namgorf @ Aug 7 2007, 01:44 AM)
what the hell was he doing with the PS3s?
mine's collecting dust.
2nd that, i recently fired it back up for ninja gaiden sigma, but they made it so easy its not really that fun to go back after playing black.
Post by: The*galloping*zebra on August 06, 2007, 06:13:00 PM
Post by: Blackbolt on August 06, 2007, 06:21:00 PM
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ Aug 6 2007, 10:54 PM)
Clearly not backups. This guy took the information and skills and took it to the dark side, making money from the works of others illegally.
fuck him.
QUOTE(atomiX @ Aug 7 2007, 12:38 AM)
The scum of the modding world. Glad he got caught.
Exactly! Well done UK Police and whoever else was involved in the raid. I hate these evil bastards with a passion, making money off other peoples work is disgusting. I am so glad that these pirate bastards are being dealt with. Its great to hear about them going after the actual villians in this story rather than the single guy at home.
Post by: Naquadah on August 06, 2007, 07:02:00 PM
Post by: thecheekymonkey on August 06, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
Its quite obvious this guy was busted for selling counterfit software (i.e. games / disks) etc etc, and the chipping side of things was just a bonus plus the fact they may of stumbled on a large haul of consoles luckily for them to make a nice headline out of it.
You know what pi$$`s me off , the fact that they make out like its some sort of big sting operation, where large numbers of there best men are on the case for weeks collecting evidence, infiltrating these drug dealing, kiddie porn peddling, terrorist scumbags and then getting a big bust in.........................................................................when in actual fact they could just walk into bowlers computer fair on any saturday they like and shut down in one instant, without any investigation, or drawn out evidence gathering operation the largest `modchipping` event in the whole of the north of england.
thats any saturday, @ bowlers, in manchester, people chipping right infront of there eyes, upwards of 30 stalls.
do they bust these? no........why? maybe because they are not selling counterfit games.
another example of the TS propaganda machine.
Post by: reekme on August 06, 2007, 07:47:00 PM
QUOTE(juan_2006 @ Aug 6 2007, 05:19 PM)
Wow. I hope this guy gets raped at jail every night. This kind of people fuck everything.
I think thats a little much to wish on anybody.
Post by: koSmiQ on August 06, 2007, 07:49:00 PM
I'm happy this *sshole got caught and I hope he'll face a punishment for it!
Post by: GamerBR on August 06, 2007, 08:05:00 PM
Post by: itchy on August 06, 2007, 10:26:00 PM
I chuckled this weekend when I went to a flea market and a game seller had the sign "We MOD" on his stand.
Post by: SueMiBlitch on August 06, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
this guy will get sodomized for doing this and rightfully so... if people didn't sell copied disks to those people who don't now how to get it themselves then modding would be looked upon differently
Post by: TRIaXOR on August 06, 2007, 11:52:00 PM
they unfortunately need to nail the top of the food chain first imhobastards..
Post by: pure3d2 on August 07, 2007, 01:16:00 AM
Post by: JAG_128 on August 07, 2007, 01:23:00 AM
Post by: jimbobjim on August 07, 2007, 02:45:00 AM
QUOTE(sabbath_dude @ Aug 7 2007, 01:01 AM)
Yeah dole = unemployment state benefit
It's actually called JSA now (job seekers allowance) I doubt these pirates do much job hunting though.
There are a ton of traders like this at my local market every sunday and wednesday. They've been busted once before but were all back two weeks later with new stock. The piracy industry is huge and it will take more than a few random busts to kill it.
I really have no clue why they are allowed to keep trading, everyone (including the police) knows that thousands of counterfeit DVD's, CD's and games are sold at the market every week yet do nothing about it. It's been going on for years.
Post by: skevast on August 07, 2007, 03:08:00 AM
The papers never write the real thing that happened.
A month ago the cops raided a guy I know he didn't even mod the consoles he just fixed them if they were out of warranty. He had only one chiped XboX 360, his own and maybee 5-6 backups on games he had original. He used the originals to fix the other consoles and a lot of peoples problems was that their consoles destroyed disks so he would be an idiot to use the originals in those consoles without making a backup. They siezed about 50 consoles altogether only one chipped. They confiscaded the consoles and made him pay all the people that left their console there. They confiscaded his plasma screen, his computer his solder iron and every tool he had for running his bussines. He even payed taxes and his bussines was registrated.
But the police can do what ever they want because they are the police. He sold empty DVD+-R and RW and rechargable batterys and mobile phone parts like chargers, displays, handsfrees etc. The siezed everything gave him a large fine and closed down his bussines.
The funny thing was he didn't even mod his own 360 he bought it like that. and I even testefied that I sold him the 360. It destroyed my disks so I bought another one with a Samsung drive after I sold that one to him.
However the papers lie and the cops are super retarded and the justice is not just blind but totaly insane. So I dont believe "THIS GUY" did so mutch evil, the papers wrote even worse about the guy I know and he was totaly innocent and they destroyed his life totaly, his wife left him inspite his inocence his bussines is dead and he can't make his mind if he should use a rope or just jump from a bridge. He told me it would have been easyer if they just locked him up somewhere. But they where satisfied destroing his life locking him up costs money..........
Post by: Chancer on August 07, 2007, 03:13:00 AM
QUOTE(Rustmonkey @ Aug 6 2007, 11:50 PM)
A little off topic: Is dole the UKs version of Welfare and TANF?
Yes it is
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 07, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
1- Those are some absolutely ridiculous numbers.
2- I'm glad that guy got pwnd.
3- We now know where the world's Wii supply was.
4- At least he chose to mod good consoles.. only 6 PS2s and 6 PS3s (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
Post by: ekruob on August 07, 2007, 06:05:00 AM
QUOTE(sabbath_dude @ Aug 7 2007, 10:01 AM)
This guy was asking to get caught openly selling pirated games at a market stall.
Interestingly I saw a computer market recently here in Australia with a hot chick selling burnt Wii games... like one massive entire stall selling burnt games, nothing else!
Now the most interesting thing to note was that this particular computer market backs right onto the local Police station - I kid you not - like not 50m from the stall!
An absolute pisser!
So I think they just trumped these guys for stupidity LOL!
This post has been edited by ekruob: Aug 7 2007, 01:06 PM
Post by: DeMoN_DARREN on August 07, 2007, 06:46:00 AM
QUOTE(HSDEMONZ @ Aug 6 2007, 10:54 PM)
Clearly not backups. This guy took the information and skills and took it to the dark side, making money from the works of others illegally.
fuck him.
seconded
Post by: 0794 on August 07, 2007, 07:12:00 AM
QUOTE(pure3d2 @ Aug 7 2007, 02:52 AM)
Hahaha 6 Playstation 3's. Even in the realm of piracy, PS3s are not in high demand.
i was thinking the exact same thing...classic
anyways, i too, am glad that this individual was caught as this was blatant illegal activity and does not help the modding scene at all - he should be arrested and receive due punishment. although, i would argue with any of the "raping scenarios" that many have proposed while in jail as that is both disturbing and quite immature regardless of your reasoning.
i wish the media would publish some good information relating to modification of electronic devices as recent news reports have left the general public with a bad taste about console hacking...
Post by: rouneh on August 07, 2007, 10:12:00 AM
i think its more like the chip count than the consoles
most of the time when things like this reach court the judge hasnt the slightest clue what the crime commited is so they get comical sentences if any and can go right back to business serving market scum again, give your salute to these fleabags by selling blank disc`s to them and head off after an hour with your legal profit made by 3000% markup on each empty disc - no copyrights involved
market scum wouldnt like being undercut either (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: oozingrectum on August 07, 2007, 10:24:00 PM
Hm, I wonder why they seem to think all modders are pirates? Oh wait, that's an example why they seem to think that.
If this is completely serious, then I'm glad this guy was raided.
Post by: KarlosB on August 08, 2007, 07:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Chancer @ Aug 6 2007, 10:59 PM)
I will find out who this guy was though.
he was an asain guy (pakistani origin) and had a van parked around the corner full of dvds/pc software/and all kind of DVD disks / games, i once went to that boot sale with my girlfreinds brother (i live about 1-2 miles away), and he had 5-6 tables full of counterfiet software + more in the van im talking about, plus he also had a table at the halifax market.
I heard he also has a shop somewhere in bradford or halifax too, to be honest he was pretty blatant about it, and had 4-5 people working for him at the boot sale alone.
he also advertised a chipping service for most consoles, as well as a flashing servers on the boot sale.
Its guys like this, that cause all the problems and make people think we only mod consoles to play cheap copys of games
Post by: ausmods on August 09, 2007, 06:22:00 AM
Post by: Console Man on August 09, 2007, 05:50:00 AM
We live in an odd odd world, the people selling legit games and stuff used to complain about the copies ruining there buisness but if you ask any LEGIT trader there now, i be they would have the illegal copiers back in a second.
This guy was clearly ripping the piss, he was just asking for trouble selling games as well as modding. He could have made a nice living from the modding and repairs alone!! but he prolly got as much work though selling the games. Im always asked if i sell the games and when i say no the customer has a weird look on his face as if too say 'you chip the machine but dont sell the games
'.The reason he probobly had as many Wii's is that he was probs stocking up on moddable consoles before the D2C revision arrives (my guess anyway, id do the same for my shop if i could afford 300 Wii's).