Post by: havocaose on March 18, 2004, 08:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (LepPpeR @ Mar 31 2003, 09:39 PM) |
| I would like a Mistubishi Lancer Evo VII which has arrived in the states. It is a beautiful car. |
the subaru STi 2.5 liter is faster, but the evo has godly suspension... i like the STi a little more though becuase they are so rare.
Post by: havocaose on March 18, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
| QUOTE (sith @ Apr 6 2003, 10:47 AM) |
Yeah i took the wrx for sure. but if u where smart u would have made it an sti,  actually, this is the sti i was driving yesterday.. its my father-in-law, John Paynter's, him and his brother are 2000 and 2001 canadian national champions. I can pull a 2:12 at AMP where he gets a 1:51.  |
i was second on list to get (own) a subaru STi the when the next cars came in... but in the meantime i rolled my moms bmw x5 and now i cant afford the inssurance on even a goped... full write off on the $55,000 4.4ltr bmw and the insurance company was not to happy with me. Makes me feel empty inside when i see pictures of them
Post by: Liquid Oxygen on March 22, 2004, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: Rylinkus on March 22, 2004, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: AnThRaX on March 22, 2004, 02:06:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 05:38 PM) | ||||
modern day muscle cars are far from inefficient. you only have a select breed of cars you can brag about. mainly the skyline and the supra. both pushing $60k + price tags new. a 96 tt supra still goes for $30k in decent shape. if you want tp compare those cars be prepared to go against vipers, vettes, saleens, ligenfelters, exotics etc... an 03 cobra comes stock with 390fwhp hp. they actually dyno 360-370 rwhp which puts that 390 to more like 430fwhp. do you know how much ground your cute little 4 cylinder has to make up to even consider catching up? that car is also only $34k brand new. your top end wrx and lancer is approx. $28-30K. dont compare a 1,000 hp v6, cause i can come back at you with a 5,000+ hp drag car  ..when it comes to best bang for the buck, and most easily modified the v8 is always gonna be on top. imorts can be made fast, but wrx's sure like to break those awd trannys. the last 3 times ive been at the track theres been at least one that broke cause of tranny failure. i drag race all the time, and get sick of the whole ricer "fast and the furious scene". its way out of hand with too many misinformed ricers. me personally i dont like old muscle cars, i like new modern muscle. and dont come back with the good ol' hp per liter saying if a mustang was as efficient as a ricer car it would be 500+hp stock. cause if all cars were as efficient as a yamaha r1 that makes 150hp per liter then the s2000 would be 300hp. lets not forget about torque either? imports have none, which is why they need turbos, and awd vehicles. you ricers have no idea what your missing till you drive something with "TORQUE" |
My dad owns a supra its a manual, all white, leather interior, *THE WORKS*. Actually does OK gas mileage. Not like a economy car, but like a mustang or so
Post by: OrangE_BeasT on March 23, 2004, 02:49:00 PM
Post by: UndercoverPunker on March 23, 2004, 08:26:00 PM
Post by: Zerach on January 04, 2005, 12:04:00 AM
Anyways I'd thought I'd bump the thread since it was funny and most of the replys were guys pulling down there pants for a pissing match.
And for the record, my GF gets to drive my Acura and she simply loves it...but she wants to buy an RX 8. I like the car as well..but I'm waiting to see if there are problems like the RX 7 that were supposedly fixed (200,000 KM and an engine rebuild? no thanks)
My Car: Acura RSX stock with a few astetic mods, custom built stereo.
Post by: Hercules Q Einstein on January 04, 2005, 12:26:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 04, 2005, 07:28:00 AM
Post by: focusracer1 on March 31, 2003, 11:18:00 AM
Just curious as to what you ppl out there would choose.
Post by: BenJeremy on March 31, 2003, 11:22:00 AM
I hate Ricers.
Give me a '72 Chevelle SS all decked out.
None of that phony giant aero-wing spoiler, wire-rimmed, wheel-sticking-out, scraping speed bumps with neon lights underneath, tinting dark enough to blot out a nuclear explosion, giant Nike logo advert on the back window, dumbass twisty antenna and a damn slave-chains license frame. Geesh.
Post by: focusracer1 on March 31, 2003, 11:23:00 AM
Post by: kris on March 31, 2003, 11:25:00 AM
Ok short storie this guy I know bought an old toyota junker truck for 100$(not kidding). Got
300 000 km on it put a used toyota moter in it got another 700 000 km!!!!! on it. The frame will rust out before the the engine goes.
Honda also makes good cars.
Post by: BenJeremy on March 31, 2003, 11:28:00 AM
| QUOTE (focusracer1 @ Mar 31 2003, 03:23 PM) |
| LOL...that wired rim, nike swoosh sticker is pretty ghetto. |
Heh heh... I actually saw a car where somebody had a PROFESSIONAL FROSTING JOB done to his back window with a giant Nike Logo.
The Slave Chains always cracks me up too, especially when it's a loser whigger who has NO IDEA what it represents, but just wanted the bling-bling to give props to his 'peeps'
Post by: DaGamePimp on March 31, 2003, 11:36:00 AM
. ---DGP---
Post by: LepPpeR on March 31, 2003, 11:39:00 AM
It is a beautiful car.
Post by: Mage on March 31, 2003, 11:45:00 AM
Don't need all that junk, just changes that make the car perform better.
Post by: R0GER_M007RE on March 31, 2003, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: J.P. Patches on March 31, 2003, 12:06:00 PM
Post by: socrates on March 31, 2003, 12:06:00 PM
......the dodge charger, or an old 68 dodge dart with a hemi sqeezed in
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 12:15:00 PM
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Post by: Audiracer on March 31, 2003, 12:28:00 PM
A Celica and a Matrix are the same thing only the Celica is slightly lighter, but still just "ite".
The Acura RSX is good but noway better than a WRX!
And the Focus, comeon you don't even want to get me started on an American car, trying to copy a Japanese car, who try to copy the Germans cars.
Im kinda partial to German cars as they are the best "all around" engineered cars and also because I drive an 98 Audi A4 quattro (hooked up).
But anyway, deffinatly tell her to get the Subaru! Out of those chooses its BY FAR the best one! It comes with a turbo, an intercooler, and all wheel drive.
IMO the Subaru is still a poor mans Audi but thats not to disrespect the Subaru as I would totaly own one myself.
Maybe a better way to put it is the Subaru is less refined, classy, than an Audi.
I always keep my eyes on the new cars coming out and my realistic picks would go something like this:
Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8
Subaru WRX (sti)
New Audi A4 1.8t or a used S4 (can't beat a 2.7 twin turbo, intercooled, AWD car!)
Acura RSX
Nissan 350 Z
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 12:33:00 PM
Post by: jesterrace777 on March 31, 2003, 12:46:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 12:54:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:04:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:21:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mage @ Mar 31 2003, 03:12 PM) | ||
Many Japanese engines are designed with turbo. The Nissan r34 skyline engine is twin turbo stock. You can't just say take away your turbo, how about then we say you can only have a v4?  Same idea, you're limiting what the engine was designed for. Course the skyline might have better handling also...but that's a whole different story |
...but this is my point... the v8 cars are more powerful... 
and yes your right about the handling..
Post by: focusracer1 on March 31, 2003, 01:27:00 PM
To the left is a 16 gallon fuel cell made by RCI. The blue cube is a Moroso sealed battery box with an Optima battery. Both of these are vented out of the hatch via hoses through the lower trunk.
Maybe I should have added this to the poll...LOL
Post by: Audiracer on March 31, 2003, 01:32:00 PM
You have to compare cars for what they are.
Not to mention Many american mucsle cars use turbos and supercharges, so dont give me that shit.
I'd rather start off with a Slower car than you, that stock out Handles yours, and with a little $ $moke the shit out your Heavy, Ugly, gas Waisting, Only go fast off the line car.
Why not take a look at an Audi S4 huh?
250hp stock, 258 lb-ft torque, 5v per cyclinder, twin turbo, intercooled, and AWD. Then....
Drop out the turbos and replace them with a Slightly larger pair, a chip, intake, and exhaust and ull have a car with 450 hp that will dump on ur car in every way. Looks better, Handles better, Faster, I mean you're beat.
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mage @ Mar 31 2003, 03:28 PM) | ||||||
More power? How? You don't factor in gas usage if you're saying that. The skyline is a prime example of good engineering. Damn good car. |
lol, gas is not a factor to me at all. just like YOU said before.. this is not about money
.. and how? you ask.. well i think it was just explained but i will say it again... take any twinturbo import.. and put it against a twinturbo vette, camaro, mustang, the american car is going to win.. yes, your cars might have comfort and handling.. but you can have that..
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 01:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Mage @ Mar 31 2003, 12:52 PM) | ||
Challenge a real import car. I'm a fan of nissan engines. American muscle cars are old and ineffient. Why get something so heavy? |
modern day muscle cars are far from inefficient. you only have a select breed of cars you can brag about. mainly the skyline and the supra. both pushing $60k + price tags new. a 96 tt supra still goes for $30k in decent shape. if you want tp compare those cars be prepared to go against vipers, vettes, saleens, ligenfelters, exotics etc...
an 03 cobra comes stock with 390fwhp hp. they actually dyno 360-370 rwhp which puts that 390 to more like 430fwhp. do you know how much ground your cute little 4 cylinder has to make up to even consider catching up? that car is also only $34k brand new. your top end wrx and lancer is approx. $28-30K.
dont compare a 1,000 hp v6, cause i can come back at you with a 5,000+ hp drag car
..when it comes to best bang for the buck, and most easily modified the v8 is always gonna be on top. imorts can be made fast, but wrx's sure like to break those awd trannys. the last 3 times ive been at the track theres been at least one that broke cause of tranny failure.
i drag race all the time, and get sick of the whole ricer "fast and the furious scene". its way out of hand with too many misinformed ricers.
me personally i dont like old muscle cars, i like new modern muscle.
and dont come back with the good ol' hp per liter saying if a mustang was as efficient as a ricer car it would be 500+hp stock.
cause if all cars were as efficient as a yamaha r1 that makes 150hp per liter then the s2000 would be 300hp.
lets not forget about torque either? imports have none, which is why they need turbos, and awd vehicles. you ricers have no idea what your missing till you drive something with "TORQUE"
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:39:00 PM
| QUOTE (Audiracer @ Mar 31 2003, 03:32 PM) |
| Im with you Mage, you cant just say "give me an N/A import car, then we'll race". You have to compare cars for what they are. Not to mention Many american mucsle cars use turbos and supercharges, so dont give me that shit. I'd rather start off with a Slower car than you, that stock out Handles yours, and with a little $ $moke the shit out your Heavy, Ugly, gas Waisting, Only go fast off the line car. Why not take a look at an Audi S4 huh? 250hp stock, 258 lb-ft torque, 5v per cyclinder, twin turbo, intercooled, and AWD. Then.... Drop out the turbos and replace them with a Slightly larger pair, a chip, intake, and exhaust and ull have a car with 450 hp that will dump on ur car in every way. Looks better, Handles better, Faster, I mean you're beat. |
lol, you just added
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| turbos and replace them with a Slightly larger pair, a chip, intake, and exhaust and ull have a car with 450 hp |
Post by: Audiracer on March 31, 2003, 01:40:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:41:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 03:38 PM) | ||||
modern day muscle cars are far from inefficient. you only have a select breed of cars you can brag about. mainly the skyline and the supra. both pushing $60k + price tags new. a 96 tt supra still goes for $30k in decent shape. if you want tp compare those cars be prepared to go against vipers, vettes, saleens, ligenfelters, exotics etc... an 03 cobra comes stock with 390fwhp hp. they actually dyno 360-370 rwhp which puts that 390 to more like 430fwhp. do you know how much ground your cute little 4 cylinder has to make up to even consider catching up? that car is also only $34k brand new. your top end wrx and lancer is approx. $28-30K. dont compare a 1,000 hp v6, cause i can come back at you with a 5,000+ hp drag car ..when it comes to best bang for the buck, and most easily modified the v8 is always gonna be on top. imorts can be made fast, but wrx's sure like to break those awd trannys. the last 3 times ive been at the track theres been at least one that broke cause of tranny failure. i drag race all the time, and get sick of the whole ricer "fast and the furious scene". its way out of hand with too many misinformed ricers. me personally i dont like old muscle cars, i like new modern muscle. and dont come back with the good ol' hp per liter saying if a mustang was as efficient as a ricer car it would be 500+hp stock. cause if all cars were as efficient as a yamaha r1 that makes 150hp per liter then the s2000 would be 300hp. lets not forget about torque either? imports have none, which is why they need turbos, and awd vehicles. you ricers have no idea what your missing till you drive something with "TORQUE" |
... well put... well put
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:42:00 PM
| QUOTE (Audiracer @ Mar 31 2003, 03:40 PM) |
| Can I just say AdmStng, You are and Idiot! |
ok NEWB... explaine to me why i am a Idiot?
Post by: jasonmvt on March 31, 2003, 01:44:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Heavy, Ugly, gas Waisting, Only go fast off the line car. |
last time I checked, fast off the line is the only aspect relevant to this discussion. No one will ever argue the handling of cars with a shorter wheelbase and a lighter curb weight. Better handling doesn't really apply to the typical street race which involves point A to point B in a completely straight line.
As far as gas mileage is concerned, is that also relevant to a street race? Last time I caught an NHRA event it wasn't Audi 's and Subaru's either. I have much respect for 'foreign' cars; most are engineering marvels - that much HP out of such a small block is amazing. But while Japan and Europe may own the circuits in the professional world, with the exception of exoctic supercars, America owns the quarter mile.
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:45:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 03:43 PM) | ||
how much is an s4? ill take a saleen s281 extreme anyday. comes STOCK with 450 hp and can easily outhandle your cute audi. the 03 cobra blocks are rated at 1,000hp. its very easily modified. forged steel crank, 4v per cylinder, manley h-beam rods, etc.... put 450hp on that audi. not designed for it = KABOOM... and there goes your warranty too ...ive owned imports in the past, but ive now seen the light. i  muscle |
Post by: focusracer1 on March 31, 2003, 01:48:00 PM
Post by: Mage on March 31, 2003, 01:50:00 PM
EDIT: do not due duh hands have a mind of their own at times.
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:51:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 03:48 PM) |
| the best part about most you guys is your too young to even drive let alone tell us whats better. 12-11 second ls1's and 5.0/4.6 are a dime a dozen. 16 second imports terrorise the streets and the track on a weekly basis ...with the one quick one that they all flock to like there defender. do any of you guys go to the track? |
your pretty damn funny
and yet speak the truth
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 01:56:00 PM
| QUOTE (focusracer1 @ Mar 31 2003, 01:48 PM) |
| You guys are compairing apples and bananas. Muscle cars and four bangers are a totaly differant types of cars. We all have prefrences, lets just see that and stop the bickering. I'm not a huge fan of muscle cars, but you don't see slammin on them. Plus when you talk about hoespower on an import, most of the HP comes at very high RPM's. Take the Honda S2000, the HP tops out like at 7300 RPM, whats up with that.... As opposed to V-8's are have a lot of torque which translates into more power at lower ends of the power band |
i dont get involved till importers bash muscle... thats nonsense...
this new fast and the furious generation is out of hand...
remember torque is what makes you move. low end torque is alot better then high end hp.
take the 96-01 cobra for example. makes 305 (96-98) and 320 (99-01) hp and can be reved to 7k rpm. it does lack a little down low in the torque department though.
THATS THE BEAUTY OF REAR WHEEL DRIVE CARS. change out the rearend. put in some 4.10's or 4.30's and WHOOLAH all the low end torque you could need with the high rpm hp.
ligenfelter and saleen make muscle cars handle, but thats where classes come in. youll never see either one in the same class.
the argument is never ending and insane. disrespect is the biggest thing the whole ricer scene has brought. they cant even appreciate each others cars. they flood the street races by my house and ruin the whole scene. they dont race, they show off their strobe headlights, bump their system, and show off their air ride.
.....its a shame
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
| QUOTE (AdmStng @ Mar 31 2003, 01:51 PM) | ||
your pretty damn funny and yet speak the truth |
is that your t/a in your sig?
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:57:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 01:58:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 03:57 PM) | ||||
is that your t/a in your sig? |
nah
.. i totaled my mustang in the rain , i will be getting a LS1 soon though
Post by: CZECH on March 31, 2003, 02:01:00 PM
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 02:03:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 02:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 04:03 PM) |
| i love ls1's .... they respond so well to mods its insane... thats the only vehicle i fear on the street. kinds funny wrx's are on the subject. one tried to get crazy on me last night. he got the jump, i missed third gear, put it back in, and still killed him. oh but wait.... he can outhandle me huh |
what car you driving?
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 02:08:00 PM
Post by: jasonmvt on March 31, 2003, 02:10:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| So handling and fuel efficiency are important factors for me, but if you 'only' drag race, then enjoy your lack of using your car |
once again Mage, you hide behind justifying your response as 'it is my innocent opinion' and then proceed to bash at its conclusion. Stand behind your statements; don't use the passive-agressive stance to try and prove your point. I would think that a conversation that has shifted towards street racing would be the wrong place to jab about a, "lack of using your car."
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 02:10:00 PM
| QUOTE (AdmStng @ Mar 31 2003, 02:08 PM) |
| here was my car.. CLICK |
right on man... if i had a host id put up pictures of my stangs..... but i dont
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 02:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 04:10 PM) | ||
right on man... if i had a host id put up pictures of my stangs..... but i dont |
that is my server.. you can give the pics to me and i'll host them if you want
Post by: socrates on March 31, 2003, 02:13:00 PM
This is a 426 HEMI (power plant)
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 02:15:00 PM
Post by: Mage on March 31, 2003, 02:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (jasonmvt @ Mar 31 2003, 03:10 PM) | ||
once again Mage, you hide behind justifying your response as 'it is my innocent opinion' and then proceed to bash at its conclusion. Stand behind your statements; don't use the passive-agressive stance to try and prove your point. I would think that a conversation that has shifted towards street racing would be the wrong place to jab about a, "lack of using your car." |
My opinion is my opinion.
I'm not going to change your opinion now am I?
It's plain and simple, this isn't passive-agressive, nice touch removing the '
' btw...Did I ever say I'd pickup the car for drag racing? No.
Therefore for you to assume my statements are ONLY for drag racing, it makes no sense.
Honesetly do you think I can change your views?
Or better yet, do you think you're going to change mine?
Also, you should leave messages in their original state, rather than slightly modify them which could remove the meaning of the message, like in this situation.
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 02:28:00 PM
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heres my current stang if anyone wants to race
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Post by: Raised on March 31, 2003, 02:29:00 PM
I really don't dig muscle cars, but take a look at this:
Taurus SHO
If you know what's good for your ego, stay away from these.
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 02:33:00 PM
if you know whats good for you stay away from these
Post by: AdmStng on March 31, 2003, 02:34:00 PM
Post by: jasonmvt on March 31, 2003, 03:00:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| However I'll let this thread go, as I have better things to do than argue over writing style. |
there you go again
ok, letting go now...
ubi dubium ibi libertas
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 03:00:00 PM
good video
Post by: toykilla on March 31, 2003, 03:06:00 PM
lets see, where to start...
1. instead of optimizing engine performance, lets just make the engine bigger. more gas=faster.. i guess that is logical. I guess i can see where the american engineers came up with that.
2. build quality, OMG... american cars fall apart. there is no grounds to argue against that. Show me an 8 year old trans am (daily driver) that doesnt rattle like a can of coffee beans. this goes for "high end" american cars also,, cadillac (aka, chevy with high price tag)
3. for all those ignorant bastards that say putting turbos, superchargers and NOS on cars is cheap horsepower... the technology is there so why not use it?? If u argue agains that, take out your fuel injection and replace with carb, throw away your computer and get a typewriter, throw away your microwave and use a BBQ-pit... i think u get my point.
2003 nissan 350z
Post by: jasonmvt on March 31, 2003, 03:09:00 PM
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 03:13:00 PM
| QUOTE (toykilla @ Mar 31 2003, 03:06 PM) |
| 2003 nissan 350z |
???
is that something special or something?
Post by: Icculus on March 31, 2003, 03:33:00 PM
I say WRX no doubt. Remember, we're talking about a daily driver here...for a girl. I doubt a chick is gonna want to drive around an american muscle car, and they aren't the best daily drivers anyway...power aside, can't argue there.
While its true that the AWD tranny on a WRX busts sometimes, it happens- as you said- on the track in a drag race. If you want proof, read car and driver's long distance (30k?) WRX torture test. Hell, read any car publication's WRX reviews...that is one AWESOME car.
Show her caranddriver.com if shes worried about reliability. 10 best.
Post by: hedstrosity on March 31, 2003, 03:40:00 PM
im sure that new lancer is too....
id get the wrx if i was stuck in those options
Post by: focusracer1 on March 31, 2003, 06:47:00 PM
Damn!!!!!!!! Anyone see that video
That Chevy Z-28
'd that Toyota Supra. Didn't see that coming
Post by: loai on March 31, 2003, 07:38:00 PM
Post by: smokeingit on March 31, 2003, 08:04:00 PM
| QUOTE (loai @ Mar 31 2003, 08:38 PM) |
| You boys playing with your little toy cars. Try a 1999 Mitsubishi 3000 GT VR4 Twin Turbo. I guarantee you it will take on all of you guy's is Civic's |
the downfall to those vr4's is theyre heavy as hell. they respond well to mods, but i think theyre pushing approx. 3,800 lbs.
that poor supra got its ass kicked in that video
...american muscle for life
Post by: focusracer1 on April 05, 2003, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: AdmStng on April 06, 2003, 12:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (hedstrosity @ Mar 31 2003, 05:00 PM) |
| RIGHT CLICK, SAVE AS good video |
LS1's!!!! lot's of ls1 racing vids floating around file shares... anyone see a transam smoke 2 ninja's on the highway... sick $hit...
Post by: jesterrace777 on April 06, 2003, 12:11:00 AM
Post by: N00bvin on April 06, 2003, 12:26:00 AM
Cause that's what I GOT!!! I'm the next Colin mofo McRae!
Post by: sith on April 06, 2003, 12:47:00 AM
actually, this is the sti i was driving yesterday.. its my father-in-law, John Paynter's, him and his brother are 2000 and 2001 canadian national champions. I can pull a 2:12 at AMP where he gets a 1:51.