Post by: staticFLINT on May 07, 2003, 05:17:00 PM
WHATS THAT THIG IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PICTURE? ITS ALL FURRY AND STUFF?
Post by: sulfur on May 07, 2003, 05:23:00 PM
Post by: Aussie14 on May 07, 2003, 05:24:00 PM
Post by: staticFLINT on May 07, 2003, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: Fuzzy on May 07, 2003, 05:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (b0ink @ May 7 2003, 09:16 PM) |
Got a great deal on a 64" Pioneer HDTV... Had to brag. Just patched my xbox to be progressive and am off to get component cables.  |
Post by: Aussie14 on May 07, 2003, 05:33:00 PM
Post by: b0ink on May 07, 2003, 06:05:00 PM
| QUOTE (Icculus @ May 7 2003, 06:50 PM) |
Mmmm...and i thought my sony was nice. Pioneer TV's are beautiful, and you got an AWESOME deal on it  Nobody deals in pioneers around here, so i had to go with sony...still nice.  |
I've been looking for a TV for a while now and Sony was at the top of my list. They make great sets too... I was sooo close to getting a 57" Sony last weekend for around $2250 on sale. All my tube TVs are Sony.
Post by: Satan00 on May 07, 2003, 07:05:00 PM
we're looking for a new tv, we were thinkin of the new sony 36" Tube
how much do those go for?
the ones with HDTV and all that funky shit
Post by: brahm2 on May 07, 2003, 07:06:00 PM
Post by: shanafan on May 07, 2003, 07:09:00 PM
| QUOTE (b0ink @ May 7 2003, 09:25 PM) | ||
LOL... Thats my dog Iggy. He's 1/2 Husky and 1/2 Terrior. Have had him for over 15 years.  |
Woah...his eyes are messed up!
Post by: sulfur on May 07, 2003, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: brahm2 on May 07, 2003, 07:18:00 PM
| QUOTE (shanafan @ May 7 2003, 10:09 PM) | ||||
Woah...his eyes are messed up! |
damn it...the call of the photoshopper:::
Post by: Dark Schneider on May 07, 2003, 08:12:00 PM
No offense, but I can't believe someone sullied this post by inserting the word "phillips" into a thread with Sony and Pioneer present
. What's next..someone gonna let "RCA" in
Post by: brahm2 on May 07, 2003, 08:15:00 PM
| QUOTE (Dark Schneider @ May 7 2003, 11:12 PM) |
| No offense, but I can't believe someone sullied this post by inserting the word "phillips" into a thread with Sony and Pioneer present . What's next..someone gonna let "RCA" in |
how about Wal-Mart's very own 'DuraBrand'?
Post by: SSSSSmokey on May 07, 2003, 09:03:00 PM
Maybe this is just me, but I would rather have a 42" plasma than that TV. But you know, I haven't seen picture quality or anything, it may surprise me.
Post by: Kejoriv on May 07, 2003, 09:06:00 PM
Post by: BenzineX on May 08, 2003, 12:52:00 AM
Post by: bong888 on May 08, 2003, 01:36:00 AM
nice set!!
i would like to get one
bu tim getting a projetion sceen for about the same price
will be good for me. - i travel alot
Post by: Kreepa13 on May 08, 2003, 03:30:00 AM
Post by: Satan00 on May 08, 2003, 03:42:00 AM
| QUOTE (SSSSSmokey @ May 8 2003, 12:03 AM) |
| Projection.... Maybe this is just me, but I would rather have a 42" plasma than that TV. But you know, I haven't seen picture quality or anything, it may surprise me. |
Plasmas suck tho
they burn out and die
i've been doing my research on them. If you wanna keep em long you can only use them like 4hours a day!
Post by: Amything on May 08, 2003, 04:05:00 AM
Post by: guile on May 08, 2003, 04:25:00 AM
| QUOTE (b0ink @ May 8 2003, 03:05 AM) | ||
I've been looking for a TV for a while now and Sony was at the top of my list. They make great sets too... I was sooo close to getting a 57" Sony last weekend for around $2250 on sale. All my tube TVs are Sony. |
Nice setup. With regards to Sony's Rear projection, I don't like them at all. I would say
Sony STILL make's the BEST tube Tv's closely followed by Toshiba. I always thought
Pioneer made great rear projection's. I currently have a Runco 980 Ultra fp setup.
Good luck with your new toy!!
g
Post by: guile on May 08, 2003, 04:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (SSSSSmokey @ May 8 2003, 06:03 AM) |
| Projection.... Maybe this is just me, but I would rather have a 42" plasma than that TV. But you know, I haven't seen picture quality or anything, it may surprise me. |
It is just you. Plasma can't even come close to that set EVEN in HD. Plasma's are more
of a conveinience/novelty imo. They can't produce black level for shit (no, dark grey don't
count.). They also look like shit on fast motion with blurring and pixelation. This is just
inherent of the technology. Not ready for prime time....yet. One day...maybe.
g
Post by: Novahux on May 08, 2003, 04:36:00 AM
| QUOTE |
| QUOTE (Xfreak @ May 8 2003, 01:20 PM) Wow,that TV is sick!!! HDTV televisions are beautiful,especially the very large ones . I'm still using a projector which has a bigger screen of course,but not that quality . ????? What kind of projector are YOU running? Trust me when I tell ya, a properly setup crt projector will SMOKE that set. My projector is running on a 52x92 inch screen. Depending on the calibration and scaler quality my setup is VIRTUALLY identical to film. MUCH better then most cinema's. No exaggeration. g |
My uncle got a nice projector setup, but it cost him $120 every 3 months to replace the Lamp/bulb thing.
sony say thats normal, and he should be using it only for movies, not as a television, to get a normal 12 months bulb life.
I think I will opt for a HD TV if all projectors are like that.
Post by: Xfreak on May 08, 2003, 05:08:00 AM
Man,that's A SH*TLOAD of money!You must have the best of the best then
.I have a (here it comes) Philips (that was the worst part) Hopper SV20 Impact projector.
It's just a regular projector,nothing special
.Here are some specifications:| CODE |
| MSRP (USD) : $ 3,899 Brightness (Lumens) : 1000 ANSI Contrast: ANSI: 200:1 Full On/Off: ** Weight: 10.8 lbs. Size (inches) (HxWxD) : 4.3 x 10.0 x 12.4 Throw Dist (feet) : 3.6 - 39.8 Image Size (inches) : 21.0 - 277.0 Lens: Focus: Manual Zoom: Manual Optional Lenses: No Digital Zoom: ** Keystone Correction: Fixed Lens Shift: No Compatibility: HDTV: ** EDTV/480p: ** SDTV/480i: ** Component Video: ** Video: Yes Digital Input: ** Personal Computers: Yes Networking: Wired: No Wireless: No Warranty: ** Lamp: Type: 120W UHP Life: 4000 hours Quantity: 1 Display: Type: 0.9" PolySi LCD (3) Native: 800x600 Pixels Maximum: 1280x1024 Pixels Aspect Ratio: 4:3 (SVGA) Performance: H-Sync Range: ** V-Sync Range: ** Pixel Clock: ** Speakers: Stereo Max Power: 200W Voltage: 100V - 240V FCC Class: ** Audible Noise: ** Special: ** Status: Out of Production First Ship: ** Last Ship: ** ** this item is either not applicable, unpublished, or unknown |
Post by: guile on May 08, 2003, 05:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (Xfreak @ May 8 2003, 02:08 PM) | ||
| A projector for $21,000.00 ???? Man,that's A SH*TLOAD of money!You must have the best of the best then .I have a (here it comes) Philips (that was the worst part) Hopper SV20 Impact projector. It's just a regular projector,nothing special .Here are some specifications:
|
That's a nice little unit. Have you done any internal calibration on it? Did you calibrate
grey scale?
g
Post by: Xfreak on May 08, 2003, 05:45:00 AM
| QUOTE (guile @ May 8 2003, 01:23 PM) |
| That's a nice little unit. Have you done any internal calibration on it? Did you calibrate grey scale? g |
Sorry mate,I don't know anything about modifying projectors
.I bought the projector,and only used it like it was (no modifications made) .
Can you tell me a little more about internal calibration and calibrating the grey scale?
Thanks in advance!
Post by: guile on May 08, 2003, 06:37:00 AM
| QUOTE (Xfreak @ May 8 2003, 02:45 PM) | ||
Sorry mate,I don't know anything about modifying projectors .I bought the projector,and only used it like it was (no modifications made) . Can you tell me a little more about internal calibration and calibrating the grey scale? Thanks in advance! |
A few things. If you have NO expierience doing this sort of thing...maybe you shouldn't
mess with it. The problem is any place you buy a Tv (and even some projector's), the
setting are set SOOOO high which is INCORRECT!! A lot of iggnorant people are drawn
to the "bright and punchy" picture like bug's to a light. I can give you a few tips though.
First, go out and buy (yeah I know, buy) either Video Essential's or Avia calibration DVD'.
Then read/watch and then follow. These calibration tools are now available to the public
but 10 years ago were only available to industry and VERY expensive. (both discs can
be had for around $30 us each btw). The goal here is to bring color as close to 6500k
as possible. Not to mention proper white/contrast settings. If you want to take it a
step furthur, you can search for your projector's service menu. This is ONLY to be used
by an expierienced professional because you can alter your projector (sometime's for
the worse) permantly. Most times you can write down setting's number and change back though depending on projector. Go to www.avscience.com and go to their projector
forum.
Search for your unit (and/or anybody that has your unit) and see what you can do with it. I can almost gurantee with some carefull research, patience and adjustment you will
be a VERY happy projector owner. BTW- This also applies to rear projectors so calibrate
that Pioneer!!! Good luck!!
g
Post by: Xfreak on May 08, 2003, 07:47:00 AM
I visited http://www.avscience.com ,went to their forums and searched for my projector model and type,but I only found some details
.But I will continue searching,so eventually I'll find something
.Thanks again for being so helpful!
You must know a lot about projectors
.
Post by: guile on May 08, 2003, 08:13:00 AM
| QUOTE (Xfreak @ May 8 2003, 04:47 PM) |
| You must know a lot about projectors . |
No problem and yes...that's my thing. Just another hobby to consume the time. Thought about getting into it professionally but too lazy to go back to school. Oh well.
g
Post by: SupeRdUPErBlakE on May 08, 2003, 08:22:00 AM
| QUOTE (Satan00 @ May 7 2003, 10:05 PM) |
| i want to rape your tv we're looking for a new tv, we were thinkin of the new sony 36" Tube how much do those go for? the ones with HDTV and all that funky shit |
Thats just strange....
Post by: capninsano on May 08, 2003, 09:42:00 AM
Post by: bagel5009 on May 08, 2003, 02:30:00 PM
Post by: johnney5 on May 08, 2003, 03:43:00 PM
jp
Post by: gainpresence on May 08, 2003, 03:47:00 PM
| QUOTE (bagel5009 @ May 8 2003, 05:30 PM) |
| ya well mine is a 76" dts high definition dolby 5.1 surround sound tv so |
Your TV has Dolby digital and DTS?
Post by: b0ink on May 08, 2003, 07:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (bagel5009 @ May 8 2003, 03:30 PM) |
| ya well mine is a 76" dts high definition dolby 5.1 surround sound tv so |
yours or your parents?
Post by: b0ink on May 08, 2003, 07:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (jasonmvt @ May 8 2003, 03:32 PM) |
| Welcome to the world of HDTV! Please, Please, Please get someone to converge that fucker. That is way off, and your picture will look so much better across the entire screen |
LOL... Good Call!!!
Only had the TV for an hour or so when I posted. I did the over all convergance but not the 64 point.
Off to watch Brazil.
Post by: skullcrusher on May 08, 2003, 07:36:00 PM
Regards
SkullCrusher
Post by: BombProofPlane on May 08, 2003, 07:51:00 PM
i myself use a 32" panasonic HDTV crt one of the older ones
not the new ones that are only synced at 540p to save money
hey projector dude whats the best widescreen projector for cheap
Post by: brahm2 on May 08, 2003, 07:54:00 PM
| QUOTE (BombProofPlane @ May 8 2003, 10:51 PM) |
| yah you got a pretty good deal there i myself use a 32" panasonic HDTV crt one of the older ones not the new ones that are only synced at 540p to save money hey projector dude whats the best widescreen projector for cheap |
hehe even cheap you are talking $1000...search google, prepare for bankruptcy!
Post by: BombProofPlane on May 08, 2003, 08:02:00 PM
ive been hunting around projector central awhile now ive been mainly looking at the cheap ass dlps and lcds like the infocus x1
Post by: bigjj54 on May 08, 2003, 09:43:00 PM
Post by: hedstrosity on May 08, 2003, 10:22:00 PM
| QUOTE (bagel5009 @ May 8 2003, 02:30 PM) |
| ya well mine is a 76" dts high definition dolby 5.1 surround sound tv so |
digital theatre systems high defenition? what the hell is that?
do they make a 76"?
i hope your not serious.
Post by: Heet on May 08, 2003, 10:58:00 PM
Post by: b0ink on May 09, 2003, 11:32:00 AM
| QUOTE (guile @ May 9 2003, 06:42 AM) | ||
Where you located?? I know quite a few excellent ISF certified guys that can make that TV sing! Just from the looks of the pic, besides the obvious conv being off, it looks like you have the Shapness setting WAY too high. I can see edge enhancement all over the place. Is that a DVD or a Divx file? Another thing you might want to consider. Getting a good scaler. I don't know how much you watch DVD though. There is a company that makes Progressive DVD players out of Germany. They will actually output in MANY different resoloutions from 480p, 720p and 1080i. I have a Sony modded by this company (Cinematrix) and you would be SHOCKED who good dvd can look upscaled to 720p!!! I have compared to the best scaler (Faroudja) and thought the Cinematrix looked "almost" as good. Quite an awesome feat considering the Faroudja goes for about $20k and the Cinematrix DVD player is about $1500.00 g |
I'm in Phoenix. I'm going to do the 64 point convergance this weekend. Sharpness was at the default. I played around with that last night and it made a big difference.
Post by: DaGamePimp on May 09, 2003, 02:37:00 PM
] . Only benefit to the standalone dvd player is ease of use but if you are PC literate then there is only 1 choice . Secondly do not buy a digital projector unless you are concerned with ease of use , if you want Picture Quality then CRT front projection is a must [ a decent & properly tuned CRT Front Projection unit can easily beat any rear projection tv in terms of Picture Quality and have a larger image as well - guile is telling it like it is ] .
Pioneer does make a nice HDTV though
, and I will be the first to admit that Front Projection is not for everyone ._____________________
guile ,
do you have any screenshots of that Runco in action ? I have tuned one of those before and would love to see what you have been able to get out of it . I like the NEC XG series myself , the color is beautiful and the sharpness rivals any digital due to the EM focus [ which is great for gaming too ] .
---DGP---
Post by: Fuzzy on May 09, 2003, 02:51:00 PM
Ever notice how T.V.s are alot like another thing a man has....( )