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Nintendo relesed some marketing materials about their new console's "dashboard" - Wii Channels. This could be base for speculative discussion for comparition XBMC and Wii channels, as dashboards, interfaces, media and games centers. I hope that this discusion can inspire some XBMC programmers and skins developers to improve existing or develop new skins.
Starting Screen vs Home screen.
Starting Screen on Wii is grid 3*4 icons with status bar on bottom. According to Wii Webpage icon order can be changed and new channels could be added. Probably more comfortable than PMII home screen or MC360 blades.
Game Channel
Nothing intresting was disclosed about this Channel.
Mii Channel
This is unique feature of Wii. There is nothing to compare in xbmc, nothing to miss either.
Forecast Channel vs. Weather
Forecast channel features very impresive Earth model for displaying weather, but 3 cities from XBMC is just enought for me.
Photo Channel vs My Pictures
There are only two feartures of Photo Channel not in XBMC: photo editing and sending photos to other consoles, and "to communicate with family members".
News Channel vs Rss Feeds
Wii has news reeder with 3 zoom levels. Xbmc has only scrolling rss headlines, and no good news/rss reader integrated in any popular skin.
Internet Channel
Wii has Opera! No comparable equivalent on xbmc. Yes, Linksboks is hardly comparable. There is no chances for compiling any closed source browser (Opera and IE) on xbox. Any chances for open source?
Virtual Console
Nothing intresting was disclosed about this Channel, besides partial list of games. Emualtor shortcuts in xbmc are functional and not very comfortable, but Emulauncher script looks very promising.
Wii Shop Channel
Nothing intresting was disclosed about this Channel, besides pricing model for Virtual Console. Various scripts for dowloading contents for XBMC are done or in development.
PS. I DO NOT want to start any flame wars. This is NOT Xbox vs Wii, Nintendo vs Microsoft vs Xbox homebrew developers! I don't even mention the four-letter "S"-word.
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hmm.....thanks for the info, rafal100. maybe eventually people can collaborate to make Wii skin for xbmc.
can u post any pics, rafal100?
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QUOTE(mbay @ Sep 22 2006, 06:48 PM)
hmm.....thanks for the info, rafal100. maybe eventually people can collaborate to make Wii skin for xbmc.
can u post any pics, rafal100?
I'm afraid, no. There are 5 movies showing Wii channels "in action" on official US Wii webpage (official US Wii webpage - Movies show japanese version of intergace). The UK version (link in first post) has better descriptions of channels, but no movies.
Wii skin for xbmc? Interesting idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I was thinking rather about improvements to existing skins.
This post has been edited by rafal100: Sep 22 2006, 09:55 PM
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*cough* bump *cough*
Anyone willing to take this up, now that both are out?
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I would love to see something like this. I love the simplicity of the Wii
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well, i might work on a "Xii" Skin, when i'm done with my current Project...
(IMG:http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7371/xiidraftuv4.png)
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Thats a nice mockup! It looks great!
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Nice mockup. I havent even seen the Wii's dashboard yet so I couldn't compare, but the mockup still looks nice indeed.
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thanks ;-) it's not a complete clone... it's just similar to the gui, on the real wii the buttons are more rounded rectangles...
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It looks really good but i dont know about the all white background, i know it's a mockup and all but with white i just see alot of screen burn you know?
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That looks really nice. Too bad wiimotes arent compatible with xbox
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Not a bad idea. I'd be willing to help out once done with the iTV skin. is anyone doing this? i have a wii so i can always check it out.
here's some pretty cool wii icons too (http://www.deviantar...ation/41980387/) that whoever is working on this skin might want to contact.
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I have a wii also so if you want any help just let me know.
Also the glovepie scripts for windows (and I think maybe linux) have been released. I wonder how hard it would be to make a bluetooth adapter and glovepie work on XBMC would be. If you could do that then wiimotes would be able to be used on an xbox.
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Any more mockups?
This post has been edited by Nubbs: Jan 23 2007, 07:28 AM
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how about we get this one started this one can be great
i was thinking we can have it so we can add channels
like in manturafs favorite mod for the mc360
or somethin like that i donno
i dont have a wii wii
so i dont even know how the menu feels but it would be nice
This post has been edited by THEKIDD: Jan 23 2007, 03:50 PM
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WOW thats nice i would love 2 see this skin get done
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QUOTE(fluidman @ Jan 18 2007, 03:03 PM)
well, i might work on a "Xii" Skin, when i'm done with my current Project...
SCREENBURN!!!
lol, I wonder if it would do damage to tvs. I would be scared to use a pure white skin on my tv, heck I am scared to use the Wii.
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LCD no screen burn. I'll have one soon. That's the main reason I want a lcd tv.
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Screwyou guys. I have a 4x3 480p tv and I am jealous.
sorry I wanted to use big letters to.
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it doesn't have to be pure white.. this was just a mockup ;-) plus you can always put some kind of background animation...
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Even though xTV still has a lot of small tweaks and work that needs to be done, I'd thought I'd maybe start on the coding for this skin if people are still interested. it's a simple interface, but since Wii is not a media center, some of this will have to imagined.
not sure how much time can be devoted, but we'll see how it goes.
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I think it would be great if you were able to work on this skin, with the way it is setup with channels you can pretty much do anything you like. To make it simple you can just have each channel go to menu such as system, video, etc.
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QUOTE(manturafs @ Feb 9 2007, 11:31 AM)
Even though xTV still has a lot of small tweaks and work that needs to be done, I'd thought I'd maybe start on the coding for this skin if people are still interested. it's a simple interface, but since Wii is not a media center, some of this will have to imagined.
not sure how much time can be devoted, but we'll see how it goes.
i no i would like to see this skin hell ill put it as default
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anyone started on this?
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yep! i'm working on the coding as we speak. i'll probably need help at some point replacing all the half baked graphics i made since i'm not a graphics guy, but i'm slowly making progress.
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Awesome man cant wait to see what you got goin' on.
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it's good to see some interest so we'll see where the skin takes us. right now i'm finishing up the settings part of the skin (what happens after you press the Xii button on the bottom left corner). That means I just have to finish coding the file manager and the gamesaves. Then i'll take the parts one section at a time starting with videos. i don't think i have any screens of sections that would interest everyone, but if you want to see the settings, just let me know and I can post those. however i'm on the road right now for work so it may take a day or two.
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Hell I would likde to see some pics, even though I am not a huge fan of the interface, I would still like to see where this is heading.
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that is exactly what i was thinking gottastopdrinkin, very interested in where this is heading...
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This skin is beautiful! I usually just see dark skins around here, and I would love to see a simplistic white skin in my xbmc. Thanks for working on this!
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i didn't forget about you guys. working hard on the skin to get some screenshots out. hopefully i'll get some images soon too and you'll see where this is heading.
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i know it's been slow but it's been crazy times and parts of this skin have been extremely difficult. however i finally got some graphics together and certain sections are pretty much done. however to give you an idea of the work in progress and what's been so far, I thought I'd throw up some screenshots. now most of the graphics are thanks to gasclown and he's done a great job.
keep in mind this is a work in progress and some of xbmc's coding limited me a bit, but it's still decent. hope you guys enjoy and i'll keep working on it.
(IMG:http://shen.franklin.googlepages.com/03052007-001.jpg)
(IMG:http://shen.franklin.googlepages.com/03052007-002.jpg)
(IMG:http://shen.franklin.googlepages.com/03052007-003.jpg)
(IMG:http://shen.franklin.googlepages.com/03052007-004.jpg)
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this is looking great keep it up
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Yes. Very nice.
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Be-au-ti-ful.
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I WANT Xii!!!!
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Very cool so far.
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QUOTE(mbay @ Mar 6 2007, 01:07 AM)
I WANT Xii!!!!
ME TOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Not too shabby at all!
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Looking great. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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A little off topic here, but:
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That looks really nice. Too bad wiimotes arent compatible with xbox
There is no reason that you couldn't build an Xiimote... the technology, while seemingly complex could be handled by making a homemade lightbar(Already done for the wii) and using a mouse and some IR sensors to get the mouse x/y coordinates. Go cordless on thsi design and a Xiimote seems pretty simple. Probaly need a PIC controller somewhere in the mix, but thats not too difficult... Mice circuitry is small, so fabing a wii styled remote to encompass the whole thing is simple. Wire in some buttons operationg on standard ascii keyboard settings and you gould get a working Dpad, select, back, accept... etc... all totally compatible with XBMC... then replace the cursor icon with the wiihand thingy and BAM.... you might as well have a Wii.
Now back to the topic, this skin seems pretty cool. Emulation is after all, the highest form of flattery.... might as well flatterthe wii I guess.
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hows it goin manturafs any updates or screenshot
gj on this one
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it would be cool if there was an integrated web browser in the skin like the real wii's internet browser because linksboks sucks
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no new screenshots. the work so far has been just making this look consistent in my pictures etc. i guess the next screenshot that would be different would be the osd which i haven't even thought about yet. just working on getting the regular views all right first.
and an integrated browser? prolly not. this is just a skin, but it wouldn't be hard to add a link to linksbox (i know i know, you said you don't like it) or some other homebrew browser, but i don't really know of anything else.
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Looks promising.
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where to download?
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WIP - not yet available for download.
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I like where this is going. I wasn't too interested at first, but after seeing that later screenshot, I'm very, very intrigued. Keep up the good work!
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like others, real life syndrome hit hard so this has slowed down. however with the end of the month gone things may speed up again.
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This skin looks sweet styll, VISION u got some compitition here.
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QUOTE(viniciusfs @ Mar 20 2007, 07:28 PM)
Looks promising.
You too!
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so when do you guys expect the firts beta?
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Greate jop. I can't wait to test it.
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any updates?
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yeah this does look sweet
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this might be more fresh than xtv......
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manturafs any news?
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awww man sorry guys. not sure if you could tell but i've definitely been mia. BUT i just started the skin again to see if i can get at least the majority of the face stuff done (excluding dialog menu stuff) and i'll try to release that for people to play with and improve. i'm gonna be working off an old xbmc release too before i start adding some of the new features i'm now only reading and learning about.
of course, any help would be appreciated.
if i don't do the dialog menu stuff, i think i just need to do profiles, xlink kai, playlists, osd, and shutdown.
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Hi, as manturafs stated work on the scripting continues as does the work on the skin graphics...
The skin is having a set of custom icons made for it and I have just released the Png's (and a .psd) of them here:
PNG Icons 300x@96
Obviosly not complete yet - but lemme know suggestions for missing icons and they'll get made.
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gasclown,
where you been?! i really really really like those icons. can't wait to see them in action.
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heh, hi mbay, been around for breif moments, just super busy like manturafs. With the icons it's been so long since I did them i've sort of lost touch with them (couldn't even remember what I designed the 'at' symbol for in the first place lol? 0_o).
Anyways, any input/suggestions welcome...
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they're a little ugly... j/k
they look great man and i can't wait to integrate them. keep it up!
(i'm working on the shutdown menu currently)
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I'm really happy this skin is being worked on. I can't wait to see progress screens.
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Is this skin being worked on. I would really like to see it happen
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Sorry to somewhat being MIA. To answer your questions, yes it is being worked on. However both sides, graphics and coding, are slow due to it being only us two guys and real life syndrome hitting us both hard. there's a lot i'm not happy with in terms of what's done so far (like animations, file views, etc), but i'll leave those be and hopefully we can release something soon. just need to code some other essential pages before you'll see a progress release (meaning some pages will still look like pm3). until then, here's two new screenshots in addition to the ones on page 3 of the thread...
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Beautiful!!!! Release it......now!
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awww man, i'll really try to work on it more but during the week is definitely a no go. i'll try to make a lot of progress this weekend. maybe i'll hole up in a cafe or something...
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manturafs, it looks great. Just do it at your own pace. Don't rush it and don't shuffle your life around to get it done. I understand that the x-s populace isn't typically a patient bunch, buut they'll wait for it knowing it'll be quality stuff.
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nice work been done here so far...any news on this wicked skin?
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No, no news. sorry it's so slow but i did do some work on it last night. i just have to work on a few more pages for a release with some pages not complete. any help would be appreciated, esp in graphics since i haven't heard from gasclown in a while.
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This is some amazing piece of work! manturafs, keep up the outstanding work!
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looks nice, just keep going at your own pace
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Apologies for my absentness, my excuses are a broken tailbone (oh yeah, its hurts alright, do not reccomend!) and an expanding small business. Will make some time to work on the graphics and possibly some scripting. I do want to get this project done.
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any updates? screenshots?
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what happened mann? did this project die?
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in one word yes...
however i'm more than open to letting someone use or see the code of what's been done so far.
i got fed up with it because usability wise, it wasn't that great. only the skin had novelty in the fact it looked like the wii. however navigation, menus, etc didn't seem to have an intuitive way without a wii remote. using a directional pad really made the skin not an idea candidate for xbmc.
of course if someone feels differently, they are more than welcome to update it and finish it. i'd even help out since it'd be cool to see it finished. it just isn't priority since in the end, only a few people will actually find it appealing as a skin.
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QUOTE(manturafs @ Dec 3 2007, 09:51 PM)
in one word yes...
however i'm more than open to letting someone use or see the code of what's been done so far.
i got fed up with it because usability wise, it wasn't that great. only the skin had novelty in the fact it looked like the wii. however navigation, menus, etc didn't seem to have an intuitive way without a wii remote. using a directional pad really made the skin not an idea candidate for xbmc.
of course if someone feels differently, they are more than welcome to update it and finish it. i'd even help out since it'd be cool to see it finished. it just isn't priority since in the end, only a few people will actually find it appealing as a skin.
I agree, The only work around i saw would be to totally scrap the regular/common views and have an almost plain backgound with big icons (channel style icons maybe) only. I still have all the work files though, and providing we were going to can most of the view features I'm still prepared to finish.
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I am very sad to hear this - I was sooo looking forward to this great skin. But life calls, I understand.
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if people really want to see this skin finished, i will try to push ahead bit by bit. gasclown, want to send me those files? i'll do a ghetto release to you few to ask for what sections to update next etc etc.
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Ok, here's the drum... The last build I have seems maybe 80% complete with some aesthetic and functional caveats. It was usable at the time, probably not with current t3ch builds though.
I compiled all of my work files (mostly scalable, Vector .PSD's and some animations) and sent to manturafs. After a while of inactivity I contacted manturafs proposing that if we had collectively lost interest - perhaps we should open the SVN for others to continue. There was no reply and I certainly didn't feel I had the right to open the SVN to you without manturafs' permission.
I'm completely OK with any of my files being used for this skin to continue. I do actually have the scripting skills to complete it myself, just not the inclination... I would, however, finish the graphics myself once scripted.
In short, if we can manage to get manturafs' permission to open the SVN the skin itself would still be viable.
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gasclown, nice to cya still breating m8!
I'm sure manturafs wouldn't mind, he's great.
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yeah, i totally open to having that open and even better if we could get it on the official xbmc svn. this skin has some great features you can't find on other skins, even the new ones. too bad just the other stuff is out of date. looks great, just needs some help with functionality. i thought i posted to see if there was any interest for someone to take over managing it, but no one responded. either way, i'm down with it and even help out minorly since the vision is all there now.
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all right. this should know be on the xbmc skinning svn. the location is https://xboxmediacen...mediacenter/Xii. I hit some errors while committing, so feel free to check it out and see if it works.
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wow just tested out the skin and it looks great
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hahaha, thanks. gasclown and i are proud of it, we just never finished it. i think gasclown is willing to post or up the development graphics as well.
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nicely done! .. wouldn't take much more work to make this one look like a perfect replica ..
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This skin is so awesome, I just wish it were a little more current.
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yeah, the whole right menu from home doesn't even work since it used to go to kai. everything is pretty much there i think, esp if gasclown posts his images. i believe a osd is in there somewhere.
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Anyone else having issues with navigation in media menus? When I change viewtype I cant seem to be able to go back to selecting a video or music I want to watch.
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you're using this skin?
are you saying you can't go down to the list after changing views?
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QUOTE(aart @ Oct 12 2008, 09:47 AM)
havent been here for a while, but man, am I glad to see that Xii is 'live' again! Installed it from svn, and it's looking very nice! hope you guys will pick up further development..would be great to have Xii, mc360 and a ps3 skin to choose from!
Yes manturafs i have used the skin.
@aart, I dont think development has gone any further because they have moved on to other skins now.
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what about something like this I call: XiiBox?