Post by: Xbox-Scene on May 24, 2009, 05:27:00 AM
| A new version of HDDHackr(info) has been released, a tool that allows you to use some Western Digital laptop HDDs as Xbox 360 HDD. What's new/fixed: * Completely new version core * Two flashing modes, Auto and Manual * Western Digital Vendor Intro Power Brute for misflashed drives * Minimized incompatibility problems * Improved exception handling * Confirmed HddHacker supports - WD Scorpio Series BEVS/BEAS - WD Scorpio Blue Series BEVS/BEVT - WD Scorpio Black Series BEKT/BJKT - WD VelociRaptor Series Official Site: n/a, by Modfreakz, Schtrom and TheSpecialist (TS) Download: here (does NOT include hddss.bin as it's copywrited) News-Source: xbins.org |
Post by: joliverio on May 24, 2009, 06:31:00 AM
I already have a WD 120GB HDD that used previous version of HddHack in my Xbox running fine, Do I need to upgrade to this version?
This version makes the HDD safer or not?
Tkx!
Post by: Mjollnir on May 24, 2009, 06:47:00 AM
Post by: ruley on May 24, 2009, 08:42:00 AM
QUOTE(joliverio @ May 24 2009, 09:23 PM) 
Many thanks for this amazing application!
I already have a WD 120GB HDD that used previous version of HddHack in my Xbox running fine, Do I need to upgrade to this version?
This version makes the HDD safer or not?
Tkx!
Nope
Post by: option350z on May 24, 2009, 08:49:00 AM
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on May 24, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
already got a 120GB HDD, so in no hurry - but this is really cool.
Post by: G3iST on May 24, 2009, 09:23:00 AM
Western Digital WD2500BEVS Scorpio
i know only 120 gb would be useable but can i use it with this tool?
Post by: vassosman on May 24, 2009, 09:24:00 AM
dude load up your game at half the time of the original 360 hard drive!
Post by: moggisan on May 24, 2009, 09:45:00 AM
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Post by: pezjono1986 on May 24, 2009, 09:51:00 AM
QUOTE(moggisan @ May 24 2009, 07:37 AM)
I think i'm going to go ahead and try this. I know most people think Microsoft won't ban for it, but if they end up doing so do you think i can convince them to unban me?
I'm gonna answer your quote with another another quote:
QUOTE(ruley @ May 24 2009, 06:34 AM)
Nope
Post by: Reaper527 on May 24, 2009, 10:54:00 AM
QUOTE(G3iST @ May 24 2009, 10:15 AM)
are the 250 gb BEVS hdds working
Western Digital WD2500BEVS Scorpio
i know only 120 gb would be useable but can i use it with this tool?
i don't see any reason why they wouldn't be. i put a wd1600bevs (160 gig drive) in mine, so the tool definitely supports drives bigger than 120 gigs. just be aware that the usable space on your drive is only going to be as much as your signed security sector. this means that you can put a bigger drive in, but only 120 gigs will be usable (well, technically a little less than that because of what the system reserves, but you get my point)
great work on the update guys!
Post by: BigIg91 on May 24, 2009, 11:01:00 AM
QUOTE(option350z @ May 24 2009, 09:41 AM) 
LOL, the Raptor series. Why would you want to put that in a 360. Its a wast of money because it is more useful in a desktop. Besides, you would need to solder and extra 12v line because that drive won't power off of 5 volts. Plus your taking away the cooling from the hard drive, no doubt you will get a shorter lifespan.
You could have the drive in a fanned enclosure or something which would solve the heating issues. And this would be useful for loading games real fast but yeah, not really worth it.
Post by: kencix on May 24, 2009, 11:57:00 AM
Post by: jeffrey1790 on May 24, 2009, 12:44:00 PM
Post by: Bandit5317 on May 24, 2009, 12:47:00 PM
. So now you can use a 10,000 RPM drive that rivals some SSDs for speed. That could do wonders for load times if you rip a game to the HDD.
Post by: LEON007 on May 24, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
QUOTE(kencix @ May 24 2009, 05:49 PM)
So.. Is it right that original x360 hdd is needed for this mod?
Actually you dont need the original hard disk but need only the connector for this upgrade. Third party sata connector not ready yet. I think its on testing phase.
But again if u dont have the original HDSS.bin from your hard drive then you have to borrow it from some one else and thats illigal.
Post by: somenutter on May 24, 2009, 01:01:00 PM
QUOTE(BigIg91 @ May 24 2009, 04:53 PM) 
You could have the drive in a fanned enclosure or something which would solve the heating issues. And this would be useful for loading games real fast but yeah, not really worth it.
why is it not worth it ? loading games faster is worth it for me if i can shave a few seconds off loading times on every round of call of duty its gonna save me hours of waitng for loading a week well worth it
has anyone actually got a VelociRaptor to work on there 360 ? ive read on here somewhere about someone flashing one in march i think it was but theres no info on if it worked ?
can anyone help ? i would be willing to buy a new drive to show everyone how fast it loads
This post has been edited by somenutter: May 24 2009, 08:02 PM
Post by: MrFish on May 24, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
QUOTE(LEON007 @ May 24 2009, 05:42 PM)
But again if u dont have the original HDSS.bin from your hard drive then you have to borrow it from some one else and thats illigal.
Actually, it's unclear whether or not a digitally-signed collection of facts is even copyrightable.
Whereas firmware for a hard drive is clearly copyrighted.
Go figure.
Post by: modifiedbears on May 24, 2009, 02:15:00 PM
QUOTE(somenutter @ May 24 2009, 06:53 PM)
why is it not worth it ? loading games faster is worth it for me if i can shave a few seconds off loading times on every round of call of duty its gonna save me hours of waitng for loading a week well worth it
has anyone actually got a VelociRaptor to work on there 360 ? ive read on here somewhere about someone flashing one in march i think it was but theres no info on if it worked ?
can anyone help ? i would be willing to buy a new drive to show everyone how fast it loads
Loading faster is a moot point for multiplayer because you still have to wait for everyone else to sync up.
Post by: CoLD FiRE on May 24, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
thanks for everyone involved.. you guys have done a great job
and M$ can ban me and kiss my ass for their overpriced HDDs
Post by: tbb033 on May 24, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE
(does NOT include hddss.bin as it's copywrited)
Ugh. Copywrited? I think you mean copyrighted. It's about rights, not writes. Oh well, at least you didn't say copywritten!
Post by: ssj4android on May 24, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
Post by: CoLD FiRE on May 24, 2009, 04:32:00 PM
QUOTE(ssj4android @ May 24 2009, 11:42 PM)
Do the 7200rpm drives work without modifying the Xbox?
I believe that these work without modifying anything because they don't need as much power as the VelociRaptors
so, that means you need extra power only if you're gonna use 10000rpm HDDs
also, these drives are thicker than the standard 2.5 form factor
so they won't fit into the HDD enclosure...even if you managed ( somehow) to fit one inside it it'll run really HOT!
This post has been edited by CoLD FiRE: May 24 2009, 11:40 PM
Post by: stewii griffin on May 24, 2009, 07:34:00 PM
Post by: somenutter on May 24, 2009, 07:44:00 PM
QUOTE(modifiedbears @ May 24 2009, 08:07 PM)
Loading faster is a moot point for multiplayer because you still have to wait for everyone else to sync up.
yeah i know you have to wait for other players but id rather be ready to play faster than anyone else
and it must load things faster for things like when you respawn and stuff like that, and must help with the performance of games, also i always copy my games onto the hdd to play so if it can speed that up by a few mins im in, because at the moment it takes about 7-8 mins i guess ? maybe? maybe more so cutting that down would make me a lot happier
Post by: somenutter on May 24, 2009, 09:05:00 PM
Post by: HDDS214 on May 24, 2009, 09:15:00 PM
And you have done an amazing job with this program. TS. Its a shame that you had to do this at all. Its not like Microsoft doesnt make enough money monopolizing everything they can.
Post by: somenutter on May 24, 2009, 09:28:00 PM
Post by: darkshadow2k8 on May 24, 2009, 11:37:00 PM
Post by: 40_ounce on May 25, 2009, 12:23:00 AM
Post by: fatvince on May 25, 2009, 01:44:00 AM
Post by: wmxp on May 25, 2009, 02:35:00 AM
QUOTE(fatvince @ May 24 2009, 11:36 PM)
Is XBOX1 game compatibility still broken?
It's not the this tool that breaks it, it's the method you use to transfer the partition. Took me several attempts to finally get mine working. I would recommend using Datel's Xport 360 software instead of Xplorer360, as it's a lot more reliable detecting all the partitions correctly, and I'd go so far as to say it's about twice as fast injecting and extracting files.After tinkering for hours wiping and restoring files trying to get the backwards compatibility to work, I finally discovered the following method. This has worked for me several times now, successfully using this system for a few of my friend's new HDDs:
1) Used Xport 360 to make an image backup of my original 20gig HDD.
2) Used HDDHackr to install 120gig SS to new WD Bevs drive
3) Used Xport 360 to do a FULL image restore of the 20gig bin image to the 120 gig drive. (Ignore every guide out there that tells you to not todo this) Yes, this will make the drive 20gigs, but only temporarily.
4) Use HDDHackr a second time, and once again apply the 120gig SS to the WD Bevs. This will corrupt the last partition with the 360 save data, but the other partitions including the backwards compatibility section will function 100%
5) Connect WD Bevs to Xbox 360, and use the System menu to format the HDD. This will ONLY format the last partition with the 360 content. It will not touch anything else.
6) Connect the WD Bevs to your Windows machine again. Manually extract all your 360 content from your 20gig bin image, then manually inject it back into your now freshly formatted partition of the new WD Bevs. Alternatively, if you have it, use the official M$ 360 Transfer Kit to transfer from the 20gig to the 120gig at this stage, since it only transfers that one partition also. This saves some time since it transfer the data in one shot.
Yes you have to jump through hoops, but it does solve the problem. Hope these instructions were clear.
I'd love to see someone's report myself on loading times with a Raptor using NXE hdd installs. I was hoping since day 1 this tool came out they would add support for the WD VR, but when NXE hdd loading was announced, that sealed the deal for me.
This post has been edited by wmxp: May 25 2009, 09:28 AM
Post by: theevilhacker63 on May 25, 2009, 03:10:00 AM
is it as simple as using a program like winhex to inject sectors 16-22 manually to make this work on other drives that are not supported?? I mean that way you can get your own copy of those sectors to make your backup and from there inject the relevant info and then use as a 360 hdd??
that way people with laptops only that have a usb-sata adapter "found in external hdd cases" may do this to there hdd's.. maybe im way off if so just point that out.
I would love to do this but if I can do it with hardware I already have instead of buying a new hdd, that would be awesome..
I mean the point is to save money and do it yourself right?? why not make any hdd work for you.?
Post by: fatvince on May 25, 2009, 03:22:00 AM
QUOTE(wmxp @ May 25 2009, 08:27 AM)
It's not the this tool that breaks it, it's the method you use to transfer the partition. Took me several attempts to finally get mine working. I would recommend using Datel's Xport 360 software instead of Xplorer360, as it's a lot more reliable detecting all the partitions correctly, and I'd go so far as to say it's about twice as fast injecting and extracting files.After tinkering for hours wiping and restoring files trying to get the backwards compatibility to work, I finally discovered the following method. This has worked for me several times now, successfully using this system for a few of my friend's new HDDs:
1) Used Xport 360 to make an image backup of my original 20gig HDD.
2) Used HDDHackr to install 120gig SS to new WD Bevs drive
3) Used Xport 360 to do a FULL image restore of the 20gig bin image to the 120 gig drive. (Ignore every guide out there that tells you to not todo this) Yes, this will make the drive 20gigs, but only temporarily.
4) Use HDDHackr a second time, and once again apply the 120gig SS to the WD Bevs. This will corrupt the last partition with the 360 save data, but the other partitions including the backwards compatibility section will function 100%
5) Connect WD Bevs to Xbox 360, and use the System menu to format the HDD. This will ONLY format the last partition with the 360 content. It will not touch anything else.
6) Connect the WD Bevs to your Windows machine again. Manually extract all your 360 content from your 20gig bin image, then manually inject it back into your now freshly formatted partition of the new WD Bevs. Alternatively, if you have it, use the official M$ 360 Transfer Kit to transfer from the 20gig to the 120gig at this stage, since it only transfers that one partition also. This saves some time since it transfer the data in one shot.
Yes you have to jump through hoops, but it does solve the problem. Hope these instructions were clear.
I'd love to see someone's report myself on loading times with a Raptor using NXE hdd installs. I was hoping since day 1 this tool came out they would add support for the WD VR, but when NXE hdd loading was announced, that sealed the deal for me.
Brilliant! Thanks for the tutorial!!
QUOTE(theevilhacker63 @ May 25 2009, 09:02 AM)
quick question.. I have a few sata drives lying around made by different manufactures "none that are supported"..
is it as simple as using a program like winhex to inject sectors 16-22 manually to make this work on other drives that are not supported?? I mean that way you can get your own copy of those sectors to make your backup and from there inject the relevant info and then use as a 360 hdd??
that way people with laptops only that have a usb-sata adapter "found in external hdd cases" may do this to there hdd's.. maybe im way off if so just point that out.
I would love to do this but if I can do it with hardware I already have instead of buying a new hdd, that would be awesome..
I mean the point is to save money and do it yourself right?? why not make any hdd work for you.?
The Specialist has said it would be possible to support other drives, but he doesn't want to do it because it takes too much time. It's in the FAQ for the previous version.
Post by: johnnyrico on May 25, 2009, 05:11:00 AM
QUOTE(option350z @ May 24 2009, 03:41 PM)
LOL, the Raptor series. Why would you want to put that in a 360. Its a wast of money because it is more useful in a desktop. Besides, you would need to solder and extra 12v line because that drive won't power off of 5 volts. Plus your taking away the cooling from the hard drive, no doubt you will get a shorter lifespan.
loading times, 'nuff said.
just put an 120mm fan over the giant heatsink.
besides, if people want to spend money on a raptor and slap it in a 360, let 'em.
This post has been edited by johnnyrico: May 25 2009, 12:17 PM
Post by: Bryan Nitro on May 25, 2009, 09:38:00 AM
Post by: theevilhacker63 on May 25, 2009, 11:36:00 AM
"FAQ:
Q. I get an error when I try to dump hddss.bin from a 120 gb HDD.
A. This version can't dump from an elite drive yet. You'll have to dump sectors 16-22 manually with a tool like winhex, save them as 'hddss.bin' and then continue like normal, with the hddhackr."
so one would think that you can do this in reverse take sectors 16-22 of a backup hddss.bin file and inject the info into these sectors.. I mean all his tool is doing is automating this whole process I would think.
quick recap.. if he says you can dump sectors 16-22 with winhex why not inject those sectors with winhex?
just my idea please let me know what you think.
Post by: robo989 on May 25, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
QUOTE(somenutter @ May 25 2009, 01:36 AM)
i always copy my games onto the hdd to play so if it can speed that up by a few mins im in, because at the moment it takes about 7-8 mins i guess ? maybe? maybe more so cutting that down would make me a lot happier
lol
QUOTE(fatvince @ May 25 2009, 07:36 AM)
Is XBOX1 game compatibility still broken?
It never was broken, only for ignorant people who don't know how to backup\restore each partition correctly.
QUOTE(Bryan Nitro @ May 25 2009, 03:30 PM)
I still dont know why they only support WD drives since microsoft uses almost all brands hitachi,fujistu,seagate
And I don't know why you couldn't be bothered to read 2 posts above yours.
QUOTE(LEON007 @ May 24 2009, 06:42 PM)
Actually you dont need the original hard disk but need only the connector for this upgrade. Third party sata connector not ready yet. I think its on testing phase.
But again if u dont have the original HDSS.bin from your hard drive then you have to borrow it from some one else and thats illigal.
That is what he meant
Post by: MrFish on May 25, 2009, 12:28:00 PM
QUOTE(robo989 @ May 25 2009, 04:38 PM)
That is what he meant
'Cept most jurisdictions don't allow copyright to reside in a collection of mere facts. Even if you sign them. Because they're not a product of creativity. Most jurisdictions that do, also make it illegal to bypass an "effective technological measure", doctrine of first sale be damned. So you can't legally modify your drive's firmware to make it behave like this, even though you own the drive! Which means that the tool and the 'security sector' are probably just as legal (or illegal) as each other.
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on May 25, 2009, 02:31:00 PM
at the moment, to me it looks like the only way to use an unofficial drive is to get the connector from an official one.
Post by: oddmaker on May 25, 2009, 03:08:00 PM
Post by: oddmaker on May 25, 2009, 03:22:00 PM
Post by: K1LLERHORNET on May 25, 2009, 04:31:00 PM
QUOTE(oddmaker @ May 25 2009, 09:00 PM)
I've had a WD2500BEVT Scorpio Blue Series 250gb sitting here doing nothing for about a year and I forgot you could do this for the 360 but the question is will I be able to use it if its a 250gb? I dont care if I lose what ever gb to get it down to 120gb.
yes you can use it.
120GB will only be usable until larger HDD's come out & you can get the SS.bin from them.
Post by: oddmaker on May 25, 2009, 04:57:00 PM
Post by: oddmaker on May 25, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
Post by: FierceDeityLink1 on May 25, 2009, 09:21:00 PM
Figures I just bought a 120GB BEVS a few days ago when I could have bought any of these news ones for less since they aren't known as "the 120GB 360 HDD". Oh well, nice to see a new version even if its unexpected.
Post by: Ruiner420 on May 25, 2009, 09:22:00 PM
HDDSS.bin contains all the drive information (model number, serial number, capacity, etc), and this file is signed so none of the data can be modified
HDDhackr reads the hddss.bin, and flashes the hard drive's firmware so that the model number, serial, and capacity match the file. Much like spoofing a DVD drive.
Only if the drive's firmware matches what's in hddss.bin will the hard drive work in the 360
this is why it's harder to make it work for other brands of drive, each one has different protocols for reading/writing the firmware, different locations of this data, etc. Plus some drives have security measures to prevent modification of firmware.
Post by: HDDS214 on May 25, 2009, 11:41:00 PM
Post by: theevilhacker63 on May 26, 2009, 01:06:00 AM
QUOTE
HDDS214
Posted Today, 12:33 AM
I do have a question about sectors 16 - 22. I know sector 16 contains the hard drive info. And 17 to 22 are xbox info. This only applies to XBOX hard drives right. Im going through some of my spare drives and there is nothing in those sectors.
Posted Today, 12:33 AM
I do have a question about sectors 16 - 22. I know sector 16 contains the hard drive info. And 17 to 22 are xbox info. This only applies to XBOX hard drives right. Im going through some of my spare drives and there is nothing in those sectors.
so your at the point I am.. logic would tell you since the sectors are empty why not inject those sectors with the info from the hddss.bin file and in theory be up and running..
here is the thing im stuck on.. if he is telling us to extract the sectors from a stock xbox drive then one would think that the reverse of injecting the sectors would also work..
now one road bump is when we hook the drive up to our pc and browse the drive with a hex editor are we looking at the mechanical "platters and sectors" or are we looking at the firmware sectors.. is it even possible to look at firmware level code while in windows?
because what I'm thinking is if in the program he wrote is "flashing" to those sectors then he is not injecting the info onto the platters but onto the actual firmware of the hard drive itself which is separate from the mechanical platters. so this is why im stuck..
why would he say something that is not possible to do?
please someone with some knowledge here please respond with an intelligent response and no negative crap as all were trying to do is further our knowledge of how this stuff comes together.
Post by: HDDS214 on May 26, 2009, 01:45:00 AM
QUOTE(theevilhacker63 @ May 26 2009, 06:58 AM)
exactly what I was looking at..
so your at the point I am.. logic would tell you since the sectors are empty why not inject those sectors with the info from the hddss.bin file and in theory be up and running..
here is the thing im stuck on.. if he is telling us to extract the sectors from a stock xbox drive then one would think that the reverse of injecting the sectors would also work..
now one road bump is when we hook the drive up to our pc and browse the drive with a hex editor are we looking at the mechanical "platters and sectors" or are we looking at the firmware sectors.. is it even possible to look at firmware level code while in windows?
because what I'm thinking is if in the program he wrote is "flashing" to those sectors then he is not injecting the info onto the platters but onto the actual firmware of the hard drive itself which is separate from the mechanical platters. so this is why im stuck..
why would he say something that is not possible to do?
please someone with some knowledge here please respond with an intelligent response and no negative crap as all were trying to do is further our knowledge of how this stuff comes together.
The SA (searvice area) IS on the platters. And the service area does contain the firmware. Its usually in one location with backups in other places. It has always been to my understanding that these locations are different depending on the the manufacturers. The fact that sectors 17 through 22 are used by microsoft suggests to me that MS adds its own firmware to these hardrives. I dont know actually know how he is exactly flashing the WD. Not until I get my own WD and flash it using his method. Then I can check with my own tools to see whats happening. If your asking if this whole process can be done using winhex id say im not sure. But I can tell you this. Other people have managed to clone their drives using winhex using basically the same method. Well they did for a particular dvr. Again by going to specific sectors of the hard drive.
And other have tried doing the same thing for something else and it didnt work. And I dont think you can use winhex to read the service area of hardrives. You would need specialized equipment for that.
Post by: theevilhacker63 on May 26, 2009, 02:24:00 AM
I can only assume he has figured out a way to trigger these drives into service mode or firmware update mode which allows him to flash this info onto the drives..
so the question is where do we go from here?
I'm not greedy at all if we can figure out an easy method for making any drive work I will share and help make the tools , tutorials etc avail for everyone no one should have to pay microshaft a penny more for something that we should be able to buy freely and upgrade at our own discretion im not a fan of sony at all but at least with the ps3 you can do this whenever you want.
Post by: iisdev on May 26, 2009, 03:08:00 AM
QUOTE(Xbox-Scene @ May 24 2009, 11:19 AM)
A new version of HDDHackr(<a href="http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox360-tools/HDDHackr.php">info</a>) has been released, a tool that allows you to use some Western Digital laptop HDDs as Xbox 360 HDD.
What's new/fixed:
* Completely new version core
* Two flashing modes, Auto and Manual
* Western Digital Vendor Intro Power Brute for misflashed drives
* Minimized incompatibility problems
* Improved exception handling
* Confirmed HddHacker supports
- WD Scorpio Series BEVS/BEAS
- WD Scorpio Blue Series BEVS/BEVT
- WD Scorpio Black Series BEKT/BJKT
- WD VelociRaptor Series
Sadly, this version didn't work for me. It's more polished than previous versions and the menu and options are much more user friendly.
I tried my WD1200BEVS-00UST0 in my notebook. This version nicely displayed all cables and I found my drive on (4). I selected it, typed in the 'hddss.bin', chose to make an undo file named 'undo.bin' and got to the next screen. It displayed information on my hard drive I selected and below it information on hddss.bin. The message underneath read:
QUOTE
Information in sector 16 does NOT match the drive's firmware info. Do you want to flash XBOX460 compatible firmware (Y/N)?
I typed 'Y' and hit enter. I then received a green blinking success message saying the firmware was flashed and I should power off the computer and wait 10 seconds before powering it back on.
I followed the instructions and launched hddhackr again to confirm that the firmware matched. Again I got to the screen that displayed information on both my hard drive I selected and the hddss.bin file. The information didn't match.
On the off chance that it actually worked (but for whatever reason wasn't reporting correctly) I tried it in my Xbox360. (didn't recognize it) and also under Xplorer360 (extreme2) couldn't find a drive with fatx.
A Good effort by The Specialist, Modfreakz, and Schtrom - just didn't work for me.
Post by: oddmaker on May 26, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
Post by: oddmaker on May 26, 2009, 05:39:00 AM
Post by: HDDS214 on May 26, 2009, 08:21:00 AM
QUOTE(theevilhacker63 @ May 26 2009, 08:16 AM)
see ok so now we getting somewhere.. I was not aware that they put the firmware of the hard drive on the actual platters of the disk.. I always thought firmware was stored on some kind of memory chip residing on the pcb which I assume it is at least partially..
I can only assume he has figured out a way to trigger these drives into service mode or firmware update mode which allows him to flash this info onto the drives..
so the question is where do we go from here?
I'm not greedy at all if we can figure out an easy method for making any drive work I will share and help make the tools , tutorials etc avail for everyone no one should have to pay microshaft a penny more for something that we should be able to buy freely and upgrade at our own discretion im not a fan of sony at all but at least with the ps3 you can do this whenever you want.
The only one that may have part of the firmware on the pcb is, I think, is seagate. Thats because you need a special cable to write to it. The other hard drives dont require it. Again im just guessing here. What is really intriguing me about this is that a lot of people, from what I read, have their WD drives stuck on a particular brand and cant flash it back. If you know anything about hdd serial numbers you would realize what he is done is just amazing. The fact is changing the serial number of a hard drive is relatively easy if you have the knowledge or equipment. Changing the serial number and having the drive work too is another story as most hard drives use the serial number as part of the boot up process. You see this when people need to replace the pcb board to recover data from a broken hard drive.
Post by: MrFish on May 26, 2009, 02:56:00 PM
QUOTE(fatvince @ May 26 2009, 12:07 PM)
Having to restore something usually means that it was broken, otherwise why the need to restore?
So you're expecting a complete filesystem image to sprout wings and fly from the nearest retail 120GB module, and install itself on your newly-flashed blank BEVS, while you're not looking?
Or where, exactly, are you expecting the 360 stores the data needed to recreate what should have been on the hard disk, when it's not on the hard disk?
Post by: ravihpa on May 26, 2009, 03:02:00 PM
I have a WD 1600BEVT Blue Series HDD, and when I try to flash it with the hddss.bin that I got from *ahem* source, it says...
"LBA size does not match"
Can you guys please help me out with this.
I am using Hddhackr 1.00, and it does detect the BEVT, and then I select "Flash" and it asks me for the hddss.bin and then shows information of the BEVT drive and the info in the hddss.bin, which is a 120 gb Fujitsu hddss.Then it says something like info does not match in Sector 16, do you want to Flash ? I click Yes, and then it shows that message "LBA size does not match"
Any help in this regards will be greatly appreciated. Thanx a lot in advance
Post by: ravihpa on May 26, 2009, 03:19:00 PM
QUOTE(rgraham @ May 27 2009, 01:32 AM)
I have the exact same drive as you ravihpa and the same problem unfortunately, ive tried multiple .bin's with the same result, you guys think i should try the old version of Hddhackr??
I have already tried hddhackr 0.91, and it doesn't even detect my WD drive
It says, "No drives detected in Enhanced mode, Now searching in Legacy Mode" and then shows me something like....put nr number from 1 to 4 (x for exit) or something like that. Tried pressing from 1 to 4, but nothing happens, and then ultimately had to press x to exit.
Guys...any suggestions ?
Post by: Ruiner420 on May 26, 2009, 04:20:00 PM
http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136071
They also have the 800BEVS (for use with a 60gb hddss.bin) for $39.99 free ship, for 8 dollars more the 160 gig is a sweet deal
Post by: brwcrw on May 26, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
I sounds like I'm gonna need to wait for this to get a little more noob friendly.
Post by: lazatunt on May 26, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Post by: wmxp on May 26, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
Also, not to press the issue too hard, but you cannot be using a laptop as your modding machine. There's far too many customized hardware options for homemade utilities to work like clockwork. You NEED a desktop rig with a mainstream motherboard by a reputable manufacturer. (Asus, MSI, etc) It does not fall to the homebrew developer to accommodate your every need and whim.
Post by: lazatunt on May 26, 2009, 07:27:00 PM
QUOTE(wmxp @ May 26 2009, 07:12 PM)
This program does do its job, but the auto detection is a little wonky. I cannot vouch for the new 1.0, but for 0.91 I highly recommend you manually hex edit the program as various guides will instruct, and inject your sata controllers memory address directly. Worked first time no problem after I did this. Very easy if you have one of the VIA 6421 PCI cards, that should be standard fair in any modders toolbox by now.
Also, not to press the issue too hard, but you cannot be using a laptop as your modding machine. There's far too many customized hardware options for homemade utilities to work like clockwork. You NEED a desktop rig with a mainstream motherboard by a reputable manufacturer. (Asus, MSI, etc) It does not fall to the homebrew developer to accommodate your every need and whim.
I've got an ABIT AW9D-MAX board with a Via 6421 controller card. I DID manually edit the hex values in 0.91 and it found my drive immediately. The 120 gb UST drive though failed everything I tried - and I tried everything I could think of plus everything I read over the course of 3 days. NOTHING worked. Really frustrating.
Post by: rgraham on May 26, 2009, 07:47:00 PM
QUOTE(ravihpa @ May 26 2009, 09:11 PM)
I have already tried hddhackr 0.91, and it doesn't even detect my WD drive
It says, "No drives detected in Enhanced mode, Now searching in Legacy Mode" and then shows me something like....put nr number from 1 to 4 (x for exit) or something like that. Tried pressing from 1 to 4, but nothing happens, and then ultimately had to press x to exit.
Guys...any suggestions ?
Got mine to work on Via card using old version 0.91b, Flashed said successful, then rebooted said needed to be flashed again, i just took the drive and tried to format it on the xbox anyway. It WORKED, now using a transfer kit to get 20gb data onto this puppy!
Hope you find the same luck i did
Post by: iisdev on May 27, 2009, 12:20:00 AM
QUOTE(brwcrw @ May 26 2009, 10:29 PM)
I sounds like I'm gonna need to wait for this to get a little more noob friendly.
It's actually a *lot* more friendly than it was before. I think the stumbling block for many users is their hardware. Not all SATA chipsets are the same and hddhackr seems to work better with certain ones than others. One feature I would love to see added would be external enclosure support via USB (for SATA drives). I'm not sure if it would be possible but if it were it would certainly offer many users an alternative to try if they don't have a desktop that's available.
QUOTE(wmxp @ May 27 2009, 01:12 AM)
Also, not to press the issue too hard, but you cannot be using a laptop as your modding machine. There's far too many customized hardware options for homemade utilities to work like clockwork. You NEED a desktop rig with a mainstream motherboard by a reputable manufacturer. (Asus, MSI, etc) It does not fall to the homebrew developer to accommodate your every need and whim.
Yeah, I understand what you're saying - I'm just in a bind because the majority of my friends/family/co-workers all own laptops. I have an older desktop that I dusted off but it has a PCI SATA cards in it (Sil) that both 0.9 and 0.91 didn't work so well with. My laptop was only used because I had exhausted my other options. (Libraries and schools generally frown when users take a part the machine to connect the drive)
Post by: Hoopdy on May 27, 2009, 01:07:00 AM
Has anyone tried rigging up a Raptor drive yet? If all I have to do is get it power and it'll work I definitely need to pick one up.
Post by: RyLoS on May 27, 2009, 04:01:00 AM
Please help help me, here the details: http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=685373
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Post by: archnemesis2099 on June 05, 2009, 05:44:00 AM
Hi all. I am new here and am trying to install a western didgital scorpio blue....... model wd3200bevt hard drive. I was having no luck until recently when i found this updated version 1.00. Now my drive registers but at the flashing stage after seeing the info from the hddss.bin file i am using i get that my drive didnt respond and asked do i want to retry continually. I click yes and get the code 0x51. my comp stays locked like this. I am using a hddss.bin from a 120gb hitachi drive according to the info from hddhackr. I have manually edited the hex of hddhackr to represent my values which are currently 8440 8434 according to my msinfo32 (system info).
Name Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4379&SUBSYS_43791002&REV_80\3&13C0B0C5&1&90
I/O Port 0x00008440-0x00008447
I/O Port 0x00008434-0x00008437
I/O Port 0x00008438-0x0000843F
I/O Port 0x00008430-0x00008433
I/O Port 0x00008400-0x0000840F
Memory Address 0xFFEFEE00-0xFFEFEFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 22
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\pciide.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 16.05 KB (16,440 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:37 AM)
Name IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&398AC340&0&0
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 21.05 KB (21,560 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:36 AM)
Name IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&398AC340&0&1
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 21.05 KB (21,560 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:36 AM)
Name Standard Dual Channel PCI IDE Controller
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4376&SUBSYS_009F1025&REV_80\3&13C0B0C5&1&A1
I/O Port 0x00008420-0x0000842F
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\pciide.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 16.05 KB (16,440 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:37 AM)
Name IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&6C27723&0&0
I/O Port 0x000001F0-0x000001F7
I/O Port 0x000003F6-0x000003F6
IRQ Channel IRQ 14
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 21.05 KB (21,560 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:36 AM)
Name IDE Channel
Manufacturer (Standard IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers)
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCIIDE\IDECHANNEL\4&6C27723&0&1
I/O Port 0x00000170-0x00000177
I/O Port 0x00000376-0x00000376
IRQ Channel IRQ 15
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\atapi.sys (6.0.6001.18000, 21.05 KB (21,560 bytes), 5/23/2009 11:36 AM)
i also have the orig unedited hddhackr burned and have the same prob when running it. any help would be appreciated.
Post by: archnemesis2099 on June 05, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
QUOTE(archnemesis2099 @ Jun 5 2009, 06:44 AM)
Post by: njmbb8 on June 05, 2009, 07:02:00 PM
QUOTE(archnemesis2099 @ Jun 5 2009, 06:44 AM)
Post by: Talfi on June 10, 2009, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(wmxp @ May 25 2009, 09:35 AM)
It's not the this tool that breaks it, it's the method you use to transfer the partition. Took me several attempts to finally get mine working. I would recommend using Datel's Xport 360 software instead of Xplorer360, as it's a lot more reliable detecting all the partitions correctly, and I'd go so far as to say it's about twice as fast injecting and extracting files.After tinkering for hours wiping and restoring files trying to get the backwards compatibility to work, I finally discovered the following method. This has worked for me several times now, successfully using this system for a few of my friend's new HDDs:
1) Used Xport 360 to make an image backup of my original 20gig HDD.
2) Used HDDHackr to install 120gig SS to new WD Bevs drive
3) Used Xport 360 to do a FULL image restore of the 20gig bin image to the 120 gig drive. (Ignore every guide out there that tells you to not todo this) Yes, this will make the drive 20gigs, but only temporarily.
4) Use HDDHackr a second time, and once again apply the 120gig SS to the WD Bevs. This will corrupt the last partition with the 360 save data, but the other partitions including the backwards compatibility section will function 100%
5) Connect WD Bevs to Xbox 360, and use the System menu to format the HDD. This will ONLY format the last partition with the 360 content. It will not touch anything else.
6) Connect the WD Bevs to your Windows machine again. Manually extract all your 360 content from your 20gig bin image, then manually inject it back into your now freshly formatted partition of the new WD Bevs. Alternatively, if you have it, use the official M$ 360 Transfer Kit to transfer from the 20gig to the 120gig at this stage, since it only transfers that one partition also. This saves some time since it transfer the data in one shot.
Yes you have to jump through hoops, but it does solve the problem. Hope these instructions were clear.
I'd love to see someone's report myself on loading times with a Raptor using NXE hdd installs. I was hoping since day 1 this tool came out they would add support for the WD VR, but when NXE hdd loading was announced, that sealed the deal for me.
Great tutorial. WD Scorpio Blue WD1600BEVT 160 GB works following your guide.
Used HddHack 0.91 and Xport 360.
Thank you very much.
Post by: byr0n on June 12, 2009, 03:20:00 PM
Post by: byr0n on June 12, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
QUOTE(byr0n @ Jun 12 2009, 05:20 PM)
have a wd1600bevt scorpio blue full model number is wd1600bevt-22zct0 and keep getting the error lba size does not match any suggestions would be appreciated I've tried just about everything have the 120gb ss.bin still says lba size does not match
tried 0.91 with no luck but o.91b worked great
Post by: d05register on June 14, 2009, 08:58:00 AM
Post by: steevyhead on June 21, 2009, 03:41:00 PM
msinfo32 info
Name VIA VT6421 RAID Controller
Manufacturer VIA Technologies, Inc.
Status OK
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3249&SUBSYS_32491106&REV_50\4&3B1CAF2B&0&20F0
I/O Port 0x0000DDA0-0x0000DDAF
I/O Port 0x0000DDB0-0x0000DDBF
I/O Port 0x0000DDC0-0x0000DDCF
I/O Port 0x0000DDD0-0x0000DDDF
I/O Port 0x0000DDE0-0x0000DDFF
I/O Port 0x0000DE00-0x0000DEFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 16
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\viamraid.sys (5.1.2600.540, 100.50 KB (102,912 bytes), 6/20/2009 9:31 PM)
i have another threat but i cant get a reply. ive been in the IT biz for years but more in harware intgr., devel., tech support etc not prog. i dont know hex and im STUMPED, i would realllllly appreciate any help. people keep trying to sell me drives already done on ebay, and i just want to learn. thanks
Post by: steevyhead on June 21, 2009, 04:47:00 PM
Post by: neatloaf on June 22, 2009, 03:31:00 AM
Ok, it was late and I was tired. Here is my problem.
I performed a full backup to an IMG file using Xport 360 software.
Used HDDHACKR to hack my BEV WD drive to be 120GB.
Formatted the 120GB in my Xbox.
Restored the original 20GB IMG onto the 120GB WD drive. I allowed sector 16 data to be overwritten. Now I know this was a mistake!! Big mistake it seems.
Now, of course, there is no way for me to get this drive's firmware back to the WD firmware because HDDHACKR doesn't seem to work with seagate drives.
Can someone help?
Or am I screwed and need another BEVS drive?
Thanks
Post by: neatloaf on June 22, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
I'm really hoping someone can help.
Post by: 40_ounce on June 22, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Post by: neatloaf on June 22, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
QUOTE(40_ounce @ Jun 22 2009, 06:37 PM)
hav you tried using it with your 360?
Yes. The 360 doesn't detect a drive as being connected when I plug it up.
Post by: steevyhead on June 23, 2009, 10:32:00 AM
Post by: bobfranklin on June 23, 2009, 07:17:00 PM
I've tried the HDAT2 method and not been able to do it, but I can't for the live of me find the HEX for 0.91b
Can someone help?
Post by: barryjohn on June 24, 2009, 05:22:00 AM
QUOTE(bobfranklin @ Jun 24 2009, 02:17 AM)
I've seen many people saying they're having problems with hddhackr 1.0 and wd1600BEVT drives and some saying HDAT2 will fix it and others saying some mystical HEX changes will fix it with 0.91b
I've tried the HDAT2 method and not been able to do it, but I can't for the live of me find the HEX for 0.91b
Can someone help?
Me too done all i can with hdat2 hpa is off drive size now 234441648 still says lba size does not match
with hddhackr 1.00 and ec count not found in firmware with 0.91 , both find my drive first time !
MY drive is a new wd 1600 BEVT with date of 27 march 2009 on it
I cant find 0.91b !
Intel chipset and via card tryed both !
If you have hddhackr 0.9b can you send it to me please !
Post by: barryjohn on June 24, 2009, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(barryjohn @ Jun 24 2009, 12:22 PM)
Me too done all i can with hdat2 hpa is off drive size now 234441648 still says lba size does not match
with hddhackr 1.00 and ec count not found in firmware with 0.91 , both find my drive first time !
MY drive is a new wd 1600 BEVT with date of 27 march 2009 on it
I cant find 0.91b !
Intel chipset and via card tryed both !
If you have hddhackr 0.9b can you send it to me please !
found 0.91b got the same ec count not found in firmware untill i deleted the ec bin from my m stick that 0.91 b had made then went back to hdat put drive back to full size with Hpa off ,booted to 0.91b with my drive in VIA card did not make undo bin flashed it ok rebooted to 0.91b it said still needed to be flashed so iturned of computer and tryed it in the xbox it had worked ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) : (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by barryjohn: Jun 24 2009, 08:52 PM
Post by: njmbb8 on June 26, 2009, 12:50:00 PM
Post by: tekno123 on July 01, 2009, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: archnemesis2099 on July 17, 2009, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: archnemesis2099 on July 17, 2009, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: archnemesis2099 on July 17, 2009, 11:34:00 PM
QUOTE(archnemesis2099 @ Jul 17 2009, 10:10 PM)
by chance does anyone have an undo file for a wd2500bevs-22ust0 lba 488397168? after that initial flash it reads my undo file as having no info.
Okay I found version 1.11. My undo file is reading again i used a fresh back up. Now the drive still shows blank but i am able to do 2 things........ 1) i can use the tool to create the 3 partitions on the drive successfully. 2) it doesnt outright say it cant write flash to drive when i try to restore , now it gives me an error about unable to access sector 16. for everything else the drive says write impossible or something similiar. I am stumped maybe flahing it with the undo file under ver 0.91 screwed it up because i have the same undo file and it read both times. I am desperate to get my box working again. fortunately i did keep my stock 20 but i moved all my saves to the 120. i am in a bad way please PLEASE help me...
Post by: matallica28 on August 13, 2009, 05:28:00 AM
Is the max size of the harddrive 120gb? Can I flash a 120gb Western Digital Scorpio Blue 120gb with HDDHacker without having an original harddrive?
Post by: majinsoftware on August 13, 2009, 05:50:00 AM
You need the orignal hdd to read the hddss.bin for 120gb. But if you search google you will be able to find it.
So you dont need to extract your on. Its against rules to post links to them.
Post by: Millerboy3 on August 19, 2009, 09:19:00 AM
QUOTE(dosu23 @ Aug 19 2009, 10:40 AM)
Using your own hdd still unsafe for XBL? or no one really knows? if not, whats the best 120gb to buy?
currently there is no evidence saying it is UNSAFE and there havent been any bannings from it that we know of. best 120gb to buy is a western digital bevs 120gb 2.5 HDD.
Post by: dosu23 on August 19, 2009, 01:14:00 PM
QUOTE(Millerboy3 @ Aug 19 2009, 04:19 PM)
currently there is no evidence saying it is UNSAFE and there havent been any bannings from it that we know of. best 120gb to buy is a western digital bevs 120gb 2.5 HDD.
Post by: Millerboy3 on August 19, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
there u go... the different models 22lusto0 etc doesnt make a HUGE difference as hddhackr will use any of the versions currently out from what i can tell.
Post by: dosu23 on August 19, 2009, 07:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Millerboy3 @ Aug 20 2009, 12:51 AM)
Western Digital Scorpio WD1200BEVS 120 GB SATA Hard Drive
there u go... the different models 22lusto0 etc doesnt make a HUGE difference as hddhackr will use any of the versions currently out from what i can tell.
Post by: spacetaxi3000 on August 20, 2009, 03:28:00 AM
Post by: Rabu★Kon on October 03, 2009, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: Takashi on October 05, 2009, 10:40:00 AM
Post by: cjackson on December 06, 2009, 08:09:00 AM
WD site says it is scorpio blue
so is it ompitible with hddhackr or not?
Post by: Brahma on December 06, 2009, 08:27:00 AM
Latest version is 1.22 Build 20091, see here:
http://www.xbox-scen...ls/HDDHackr.php and here http://forums.xbox-s...o...4373&st=135.
Post by: cjackson on December 06, 2009, 12:16:00 PM
after uncripple my box, i'll buy one of them asap
Post by: kadko on December 26, 2009, 04:51:00 PM
CODE
Western Digital Vendor Intro failed on port 0x3050 (Yes this is my hdd ata port)
Make sure you have connected Western Digital Scorpio series Hard Drive.
If you choose to resend the command you should turn the drive off and on after you pressed yes.
The thing is that my hdd is correctly connected i know that is fully functional and i dont know what to do, i tried on diferent ata ports and still get the same, some one can help me?
Note: I tried with the v0.9 and v0.9b and it doesnt recognize the ata drive only my IDE
My pc is Emachines T5048
Post by: Fez98 on January 17, 2010, 09:14:00 AM
Also, with this, will i get Banned From Xbox Live?
Post by: samfu on February 13, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Fez98 @ Jan 17 2010, 05:14 PM)
I need some help, when i boot to DOS, HDDhackr dosent recognize my SATA Drives, but what is even weirder, it only Recognizes my ATA(IDE) Drives, I have an ALi M5229 Controller for My SATA Drives.
Also, with this, will i get Banned From Xbox Live?
I've read the entire post, and the consensus is NO, no one has confirmed a banning based solely on an "upgraded" HDD.
Anyone else agree? I have yet to do this myself for the same concern.
Post by: fatguyinc on April 24, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
Hey guys, I'm sure the question has been 100times, but I'm wanting to get an HDD and flash it myself and such, because I'm not spending the money MS wants me to spend on their crap.
Anyway, I've seen reports that you can do a 120gb harddrive, but what about a 250gb? Because I ordered one of the ones that was recommended.(one of the western digital ones).
Anyway, I'm slightly confused on how do to it. On the readme file there doesn't seem to be any instructions, and on the xbox-scene pay, I dont really see any either, or maybe its just I don't understand.
Is anyone able to help me out in some way? LIke the stuff I'll need when I get my harddrive in the mail, or am I good to go aside from taking the HDD in the xbox.
I'm new to all this stuff, though my cousin is going to help me, since he's more knowledgeable with this kind of thing than I am.
Maybe actual instructions or something.
Thanks guys.