Post by: christopher_sage on August 30, 2012, 01:29:00 AM
#1 tip to avoid Xbox red ring of death is to prevent Xbox overheating.
#2 never try to re-solder Xbox your own unless you are knowledgeable at it or you have a repair guide with you.
#3 Don't wrap the damaged Xbox 360 console with a bath towel, it will not do good to your Xbox.
Source: http://www.e74online.com/ just sharing to also contribute helpful information to Xbox lovers like me.
Post by: christopher_sage on September 03, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
Post by: skeen on December 16, 2012, 12:11:00 AM
Green power light for a second.
Followed by 4 blinking red rings with the center light blinking green to yellow. It was doing this if the AV cable was plugged in or not.
Eventually after about 10 times trying to boot the thing "CRACK!" a capacitor popped and stunk up the place.
This was a JTAG xenon I've had for years and it just decided to do this today.
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 27, 2006, 12:24:00 PM
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--==ERROR Codes==--
If there is a problem with the Xbox360 The LEDs in the ring of light will flash in a particular pattern. The pattern itself leads some insight to the problem. Certain patterns will lead to numbered error codes which will provide further insight to the problem. The numbered error codes are described below their corresponding LED code.
After reading this guide if you'd like to discuss the problems you're experiencing with others you can do so in the following thread:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=462099
these are the codes we know so far...
Please contribute if you know of new codes that are not part of this list.
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Sections 1, 2, 3, and 4 are flashing red
- The AV cable cannot be detected
/ \
\ /
THINGS TO TRY
- Make sure that the AV cable is correctly connected to the Xbox 360 console.
- Disconnect the AV cable from the Xbox 360 console, and then reconnect the AV cable to the Xbox 360 console.
- If the four flashing red lights continue to flash, try wiping the metal area of the AV pack with a dry cloth. The metal area is the end that plugs into the console. Wipe the metal area thoroughly, and then try the AV Pack again.
- If the AV cable is correctly connected but the four red lights are still flashing, substitute a different AV cable if you have one available.
Sections 1, 3, and 4 are flashing red
- General Hardware Failure
/ \
\ /
Check the secondary Error Code per the instructions in the section below
THINGS TO TRY
- Try restarting the console.
- If restarting the console does not resolve the behavior, follow these steps:
- Turn the console off.
- Unplug all the power and AV cables from the console.
- Unplug the power cord from the wall socket.
- Firmly reconnect all the cables.
- Turn on the console.
- If these steps do not resolve the behavior, turn the console off, remove the hard drive, and then turn on the console. If the 3x Red LED error light is no longer displayed, turn the console off, re-attach the hard drive, and then turn on the console.
- Also examine the lights on the power supply. When you turn on the console, the power supply light should illuminate green even if the three lights on the RoL flash red.
Sections 1, and 3 are flashing red
- Overheating
/ \
\ /
Alternatively Overheating can be cause by the console locking up or "freezing" after a set amount of time. Lockups that occur at a specific point in a game are generally problems with the game itself and not caused by overheating.
THINGS TO TRY
- Let the Xbox 360 console cool.
Note You may have to wait several hours for the console to cool enough. Do not turn on the console when the console is hot. - Verify that the console has sufficient ventilation and that the fan is operating. For more information about ventilation, see the "More Information" section.
To try to prevent this problem, use the following precautions:
- Do not block any ventilation openings on the Xbox 360 console.
- Do not put the Xbox 360 console on a bed, on a sofa, or on any other soft surface that may block ventilation openings.
- Do not put the Xbox 360 console in a confined space, such as a bookcase, a rack, or a stereo cabinet, unless the space is well-ventilated.
- Do not put the Xbox 360 console near any heat source, such as a radiator, a heat register, a stove, or an amplifier.
Some people think that doing this might help "fix" an overheating console, in fact doing so could cause even bigger problems. Electronic devices like your console are made to function at and around room temperature, extreme cold temperatures can often cause just as many problems as extreme warm temperatures (such as overheating). Also if the console is located in a dramatically cold area while running, the difference in temperature between the hot console and cold air can create condensation which in turn will short out your console making the situation far worse. Condensation will happen more quickly if your console is overheating due to the greater difference in temperature. In short... DON'T DO IT.
A more aggressive Solution to overheating is to improve the cooling system of the console. The best solution is to replace the thermal compound. If you attempt this you do so at your own risk. If you're console is still under warranty it is recommended that you contact MS for a replacement before attempting to fix it yourself.
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Section 4 is flashing red
- Hardware Failure
/ \
\ /
The Specific Type of hardware failure can be determined by the error code displayed on the screen.
If the screen is blank or you would like additional information follow the instructions for determining the secondary error code in the section below
E01: possibly a power supply problem
E02: possibly a Network Interface problem (might be fixed by loosening the x-clamps)
E03: possibly Power problem could be the PSU could be the GPU/CPU, somehow the console isn't getting clean power from the power supply.
E04: Unconfirmed: There is a problem with the Southbridge Chip usually dealing with how it connects to the mainboard (cold solder joint/bridged solder joints)
E05: CPU over heating - If you are receiving this error after disassembling your console make sure to all 8 of the heatsinc screws are tightened securely to the board/heatsink holes.
E06: GPU over heating -ensure your x-clamps are installed properly.
E07: RAM over heating
E08: Unconfirmed: General I/O Malfunction, could be caused by an error with any of the I/O devies such as A/V port, USB, Hard drive, DVD drive, etc. over torquing of the AV or heatsync bolts can cause this error.
E09: Unconfirmed: This can be caused by two completely different things either:
A. DVD Drive Time out - Can be caused by problems with a firmware flash. This is also speculated to sometime be caused by a problem with the southbridge chipset on the motherboard based on how it connects to the DVD drive.
B. GPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints) See error E18 for more information
E10: Unconfirmed: CPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints). This can also be triggered by an error with the TSOP.
E11: (not yet known)
E12: Possibly a problem with temperature control
E13: Unknown: could be caused by a short between the heatsink and surrounding capacitors
E14: (not yet known)
E15: (not yet known)
E16: Unknown: Likely a cold solder join in GPU or Ram chips (see error E18)
E17: (not yet known)
E18: Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the mainboard.
There are two theories to fixing this one deals with the "X" clamps that hold down the chips. The other involves re-Heating the chips. DO NOT attempt either of these if your console is still under warranty. If your console is still under warranty return it to the store where it was purchased or call MS to have it replaced.
E19: Unknown: GPU Error this is usually caused by bridged solder points where the GPU connects to the mainboard. see error E18 for more detailed information
E20: likely a Ram error, this can be caused by a cold or bridged solder joint on one of the Ram chips.
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E32: (not yet known)
E33: (not yet known)
E34: (not yet known)
E35: over heating GPU possibly due to lack of thermal compound.
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E45: Unknown (possibly dashboard update related)
E52: (not yet known)
E64: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive timed out during reset :Wrong firmware, dvd is without f/w chip, etc. This can also be caused by the tray not being fully closed on boot. also it could mean that the Kernel can't be launched/signature in NAND Flash chip is broken It could be possible after bad update. http://forums.xbox-s...p;#entry4156375 This might also be caused by a bad SATA cable.
E65: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive is not DMA configured :Wrong firmware, dvd is without f/w chip, etc. This can also be caused by the tray not being fully closed on boot.
E66: DVD Drive Error - Dvd drive pairing failure: DVD model, or version does not match that of the version expected by the dashboard. OR the firmware version on the drive is older then the firmware version expected by the dashboard. Make sure the DVD drive is of the same version originally included with the console and that it is using either the original firmware included with the console or newer. if drive can eject, read, and write under windows but errors on console, replacing original firmware should fix issue.
E67: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive timed out during reset: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it.
E68: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive not DMA configured: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it. Also this can be caused by a problem with the fans that make them draw too much power, it can also be caused if you have unnecessary accessories attached to the console like an external fan unit. Attempt to remove unnecessary accessories first, and then necessary components such as the hard drive and USB devices. If you have any case mods you may want to investigate those as well.
E69: Hard Drive Error - Reading the HD Security sector failed: It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
E70: Hard Drive Error - Hard drive not found
E71: Dashboard Error - Error within Xam.xex: possibly a dashboard update error, Check below in the "Console Reset Codes" for instructions. If that does not work there is no other solution and the console must be sent back to MS for repair.
E72: Dashboard Error - Error within Xam.xex: Like a problem with the NAND flash
E73: I/O Hardware Error - Couldn't calibrate HSIO Bus from edram: this error is likely caused by a problem with the Ethernet port or supporting control devices
E74: I/O Hardware Error - HSIO related, could be crc error, or many things: There is high chance it's a scaler chip problem (the "ANA" or "HANA" chip near the AV cable connection) it can also be caused by a faulty AV cable so check that first. Microsoft covers this error under their 3-year warranty, this is availble to anyone who hasn't modified their console. contact MS to get a free replacement console before attempting to fix this yourself. Failing that this error In some cases it is a problem with the GPU and may be repairable by doing the x-clamp replacement (see error 0102)
E75: Ethernet Error - Couldn't read ethernet phy vendor: Strange but sometimes caused by the DVD drive not being connected properly.
E76: Ethernet Error - Couldn't complete ethernet reset: This error is usually cased by the Ethernet port's controller chip, a dead chip may not cause the error but removing the Ethernet controller chip does, it may also be caused by other Ethernet related problems.
E77: Ethernet Error - phy request is already processing/reading reg failed/Failed to write reg: This error is sometimes caused by power problems with the RAM chips. It might be cause by a short between the heat sink and resistors or by more serious problems with the RAM. [more info]
E78: Dashboard Error - AsicId check failed
E79: Dashboard Error - Couldn't start xam.xex: probably a file system corruption, it could also be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it.
E80: Dashboard Error - Wrong LDV version in NAND Flash: This is in new dashboard. You have the update but haven't R3T6 resistor. You can:
-Downgrade to old dashboard, solder back the resistor and then update your xbox
-If you have CPU Key, get current NAND Flash image and fix LDV (just add 1 up to latest kernel). (See error 1100)
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--==SECONDARY ERROR CODES==-
The specific type of hardware failure can be determined by a "hidden" error code
- Turn the xbox 360 on, and wait till the 3 red lights are flashing.
- Press and hold the sync up button (the small white one), while holding that button press the eject button.
- The LEDs will now blink the first number in the code (as described below).
- Release the eject button and press it again.
- The LEDs will now blink the second number of the code.
- Release the eject button and press it again.
- The LEDs will now blink the third number of the code.
- Release the eject button and press it again.
- The LEDs will now blink the forth number of the code.
- Release the eject button and press it again.
- The LEDs will go back to the 3 red flashing lights.
Here is how you interpret the LEDs to get the code number:
- All four lights flashing - 0
- One light flashing - 1
- Two Lights flashing - 2
- Three lights flashing - 3
0001 See Error E01
0002 See Error E02
0003 See Error E03
0010 See Error E04
0011 See Error E05
0012 See Error E06
0013 See Error E07
0020 See Error E08
0021 See Error E09
0022 See Error E10
0023 (not yet known)
0030 See Error E12
0031 See Error E13
0032 (not yet known)
0033 (not yet known)
0100 See Error E16
0101 (not yet known)
0102 See Error E18
0103 See Error E19
0110 See Error E20
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0200 (not yet known)
0201 (not yet known)
0202 (not yet known)
0203 See Error E35
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1000 See Error E64
1001 See Error E65
1002 See Error E66
1003 See Error E67
1010 See Error E68
1011 See Error E69
1012 See Error E70
1013 See Error E71
1020 See Error E72
1021 See Error E73
1022 See Error E74
1023 See Error E75
1030 See Error E76
1031 See Error E77
1032 See Error E78
1033 See Error E79
1100 See Error E80
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1444 and up There is no "4" in the error codes. Four lights is a "0" go back and check your code again.
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--==Power Supply Color Codes==--
no light - No Power - Power supply is not receiving power from the mains
Green - Power On - Power supply is plugged in and receiving power from the mains and the console is powered on.
Orange - Stand By - Power supply is plugged in and receiving power from the mains but the console has not yet been powered on.
Red - Power Supply Error, Power supply is plugged in and receiving power from the mains, but there is a problem preventing it from delivering power.
this can be caused by the following:
- overheating - this is commonly caused by lack of ventilation, check to make sure there is a lot of open space around the power supply, that the air temp in the room is cool, and that the vents are free from dust and debris. Also check to make sure the fan is still functioning properly
- incorrect voltage - this can be caused by the power supply being plugged into an outlet that is not providing the proper voltage for the power supply to function properly.
- too much current draw - this means that the console is drawing too much power from the power supply. This is most commonly in modded consoles this can be caused by excessive LEDs or other extraneous hardware, in non-modded consoles this most often caused by short somewhere; a common problem is USB ports that have been damaged and the pins inside the port are shorting out on each other.
--==Console Reset Codes==--
Clear All Installed Game Updates and Console Cache
- Go to the "system" blade
- Select "memory"
- Press Y on the HD symbol
- Press X,X, Left Bumper, Right Bumper, X,X
- A message will appear saying: "Do you want to perform maintenance on your Xbox 360 storage devices?"
- Select Yes
- With the console off, press and hold the sync up button (the small white one)
- While holding the sync button press the power button to turn on the console
- Continue to hold the sync button until the Console has booted up completely.
- During the boot process the console should clear any failed updates, allowing you to use it normally.
--==Sending in your Console for Repair==--
If none of the above suggestions work, contact MS customer support get get a support ticket started. If your console is still under warranty DO NOT attempt to open it and fix it yourself. MS will fix it promptly and for free and if you open it you loose the free support.
Check the documentation that came with your Xbox 360 for contact information.
In the US Customer Support can be reached at 1-800-4-MY-XBOX (1-800-469-9269)
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This FAQ is constantly changing and I do my best to keep it as up to date as possible..
If you would like to help please send me a PM with any additional info/links that you feel should be included/corrected with this FAQ.
After reading this guide if you'd like to discuss the problems you're experiencing with others you can do so in the following thread:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=462099
I deserve no credit for what is written here, I simply compiled this guide with information provided to me by others the real credit goes to those listed below...
Thanks to everyone who has help me build this:
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Very Special Thanks to sowa99 as well as HvxHcC, Tmbinc, and redline99 from XboxHacker who have provided a majority of the discoveries.
Post by: Brutal Infidel on February 26, 2006, 11:24:00 AM
Post by: nyghtspydr on March 06, 2006, 07:29:00 AM
Might be an Overheating issue...
I tried one users fix by gently "smacking" the side of it, and that usually fixes it. Haven't had any problems the past week until now....I guess its off to M$.
Post by: r3bel117 on March 10, 2006, 03:17:00 PM
i have a new error code for you guys
i live in new zealand and we dont have the 360 yet so i cant do my own experimenting
but anyway went into a games store yesterday the the 360 had the usual black screen with "E 65" at the bottom.
tried restarting it nothing came on screen and then just displayed the error again.
will try to get a pic up later today.
hope this helps
cheers
Post by: Lpk32187 on March 18, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
This post has been edited by Lpk32187: Mar 18 2006, 08:48 PM
Post by: rsintx on March 20, 2006, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: navspec117 on March 27, 2006, 04:43:00 AM
QUOTE(rsintx @ Mar 21 2006, 12:00 AM) 
I got my first #4q ROL today(#74). It also gives the hardware failure code 1022. I changed out the av wires a number of times, and it didnt help. Any other ideas that may cause a 74 other them an av wire problem??
I've gotten the e74 error code several times when I first turn the console on. I turn the console off and then back on and it boots up with no problems. I called MS support just to ask them if it's something to be concerned about and they didn't give me a definite answer but did take my name and a report of the incident.
Post by: tbird2340 on March 27, 2006, 04:40:00 PM
Post by: snow rider221 on March 31, 2006, 07:15:00 PM
I'm getting 0022 as an error and i have no idea what to do... It was working fine all day and than all the sudden i went to turn it on and no video, so i checked to see what error code. There is a possiblilty this is overheating, but I'll check into it.
Can't send it to MS either because it is now irridescent blue with 2 windows in it
Post by: accukevin on April 01, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: flashfreak on April 02, 2006, 05:27:00 PM
Post by: MrPhunkee on April 03, 2006, 03:45:00 PM
Post by: mzenone on April 05, 2006, 11:33:00 AM
I thought it may be overheating, but everything was cool.... So I kept on playing the same part and roughly time that it would happen.....The I tried reseating the AV cable and it hasnt started since....
Post by: Avaric3 on April 05, 2006, 09:59:00 PM
Post by: Darkshot1 on April 06, 2006, 09:47:00 PM
Now its doing it again and its not turning on at all. I guess i got lucky last time. It hasn't even been used for about 4 hours, and it wasn't any rigorous playing, so its not overheating. I just decided to turn it on and it did this. It also froze up earlier during Perfect Dark, might be related.
It says on this thread that 0102 is an unknown error... anyone know?
Post by: lateralus11235 on April 09, 2006, 08:04:00 PM
Now, if the rings were blue this would be similar to the blue screen of death, but I guess red is more fitting.
I'm disappointed by their return policy. 5-8 business days for an empty box to arrive. x days to ship my console back and they fix it. 5-8 days for return delivery. I'm guessing 2-4 weeks without a functional xbox. Considering I bought 4 games, an extra wireless controller, the battery charger for the wireless controllers, a composite to VGA adapter and the wireless add-on, my (close to) $1000 CDN expenditure kinda sucks. I've played the console for less than 20 hours and I've only had it for 2 weeks.
I wouldn't be at all suprised if this is heat related. The console fans in any game are full-blast the whole time. I hard read about this and I have 2 feet clearance any every side of the console, and the power supply is a foot away from everything.
Perhaps being first to market isn't all that great a thing...
Post by: Rufus Patrol on April 15, 2006, 05:29:00 PM
There are 2 possible causes that I think would be a factor for this error for me. I opened my 360 and changed my ring of light LEDs to blue, and red for the error. This was about a month ago. I couldn't restrain myself from pulling the heat-sinks off the processors, though.
Ever since that, the fans seemed to be at full blast and I'd get those annoying artifacts on Halo 2. So I figured it was overheating because I'd muffed up the heat stuff that goes between the processors and the heat-sink. (my console has tons of breathing room, is open on the front and sides, with tons of space behind it to vent.)
I opened it up again and re-did the heat-sinks, and it returned to quiet as a mouse, and worked perfectly. Then came the Halo 2 live updates (about a week or so ago, April-5-2006 ish) There were 2 updates within a couple days.
After the 2nd update, Every time I'd enter a MM game, the whole screen would pixel and freeze, and my speakers would make a horrible buzzing sound. This repeated about 5 times, so I deleted all H2 content from my HDD, and downloaded the updates again.
During the updates it froze (without the pixelizing or noise) and when I reset it It would freeze & pixel during the bios introduction. Some times it would load the Dash and I once got E79 (I think?) with no hdd connected. If its connected I get nothing.
Now I can't get any video, and I getting code 0102. M$ won't help because I opened my box.
I think the 0102 code is a fried video processor, or possibly problem with the bios. An interuption of the H2 update is a possible cause, but I don't see how that could be a factor when my HDD is disconnected.
This post has been edited by Rufus Patrol: Apr 16 2006, 12:36 AM
Post by: Ramstar on April 16, 2006, 01:53:00 PM
QUOTE(Rufus Patrol @ Apr 16 2006, 12:36 AM)
I'm getting the 0102 error as well.
There are 2 possible causes that I think would be a factor for this error for me. I opened my 360 and changed my ring of light LEDs to blue, and red for the error. This was about a month ago. I couldn't restrain myself from pulling the heat-sinks off the processors, though.
Ever since that, the fans seemed to be at full blast and I'd get those annoying artifacts on Halo 2. So I figured it was overheating because I'd muffed up the heat stuff that goes between the processors and the heat-sink. (my console has tons of breathing room, is open on the front and sides, with tons of space behind it to vent.)
I opened it up again and re-did the heat-sinks, and it returned to quiet as a mouse, and worked perfectly. Then came the Halo 2 live updates (about a week or so ago, April-5-2006 ish) There were 2 updates within a couple days.
After the 2nd update, Every time I'd enter a MM game, the whole screen would pixel and freeze, and my speakers would make a horrible buzzing sound. This repeated about 5 times, so I deleted all H2 content from my HDD, and downloaded the updates again.
During the updates it froze (without the pixelizing or noise) and when I reset it It would freeze & pixel during the bios introduction. Some times it would load the Dash and I once got E79 (I think?) with no hdd connected. If its connected I get nothing.
Now I can't get any video, and I getting code 0102. M$ won't help because I opened my box.
I think the 0102 code is a fried video processor, or possibly problem with the bios. An interuption of the H2 update is a possible cause, but I don't see how that could be a factor when my HDD is disconnected.
I really dont think that your modding of the xbox has anything to do with it...MS are just bein queer. A lot of people are having the same problem like ......me...i get the 3 sector red lights aside from the 4th quad. Iv had the 360 since uk launch day (2nd dec), and it frooze like a few days ago...Then started working ok again after i tried a few things...ie...fan/moving it/smacking it/changing av cables and every thinkable other thing...
Then it died completely and new i only get 3 lights all the time as opposed to being able to play for a bit and then .........FREEZE!!!! thats the most annoying one though!!
I think the answer is simple in that MS had only done batch testing....which is normal still blows!!
I feel anyone who is having constant freezing issues should be prepared to be a bit bummed...coz it WILL eventually freeze up completely...giving u no option but to send them back.
Called MS, they are gona send me a 'sticker'...in the uk we have to provide our own boxes!!!!!!bull!! 10-14 days the idiots said!!!
Oh another thing!!!- customer support try to act as though they dont have that many calls concerning this...'we sell millions and only a insignificant minority have come back'...
Post by: rsintx on April 18, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
I just started working on them so I havent had time to figure them out yet. Of the 65 or so I have looked at
these are the errors I have had. I dont have any thermal compound atm so I havent worked with the over heating issues.
0011: 1
0020: 1
0022: 1
0102: 4
0103: 1
0110: 4
1003 (#67): 1
1022 (#74): 1
Post by: twistedsymphony on April 19, 2006, 07:13:00 AM
The error codes up there now where either gathered by me from the MS Xbox help pages (I'm pretty sure I got everything listed there), or submitted to me by members who had found the meaning of the code by talking to MS tech support.
Post by: Link1121 on April 19, 2006, 08:37:00 PM
Post by: Link1121 on April 21, 2006, 08:01:00 AM
Post by: Nix16 on April 24, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
I got the biggest problem of all you guys...I went on holiday to Greece and I bought the Xbox360,Tomb raider Legend and Fifa 2006 road to world cup with an extra controller I could'nt wait to get back to South-Africa and play my new 360.
When I got back to South-Africa I immediatly started up my 360 and started a game of Tomb raider after which I played Fifa...suddenly in the middle of the game the picture started snowing which I thought it might be the cables not propely inserted I restarted my 360 with the cables re-inserted and there it was...3 RED LIGHTS OF DOOM!
I then contacted MS South-Africa and they just told me they cant help me(this product is not sold in S.A.)...what disturbs me the most is the fact that it is a MS product and they dont even want to help me
Now I might have to ship my 360 all the way to Europe from South-Africa
Post by: sicXness on April 28, 2006, 07:07:00 PM
Post by: Link1121 on April 30, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: vERdugox on May 01, 2006, 10:11:00 AM
the thing is.. im pretty sure its "GPU OverHeating or Fault" which means.... or you´re frying your XBOX GPU or you´ve already Fried it up.
Why i say that?
ok, my xbox started at some point to freeze from time to time with these funny colors (pink and brown and stuff like that) in square shapes, some times just freezed some times with the colors..., the day my xbox decided to let me without the joy of playing my "just bought call of duty 2", it was freezing over and over again and gave me these colors even working... so, for me, theres no doubt, its the GPU.
BTW, i didnt even played my first bought game for the first time... imagine my rage...
PD. sorry for my bad english.. not very good at it.
Hope this helps somehow anyone... and i reccomend anyone who gets these errors or symptoms to get their consoles to the M$ repair center
Atte.
vERdugox
Post by: chocolatecheese on May 04, 2006, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: xboxexpert on May 04, 2006, 04:36:00 PM
-xboxexpert
Post by: vERdugox on May 04, 2006, 04:42:00 PM
and as soon as you get it... get an intercooler
Post by: Whybotherwithmine? on May 04, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
- Whybotherwithmine
yea. its done
Post by: vERdugox on May 05, 2006, 06:21:00 PM
.... they should have 2 days ago...so... dont be afraid to send it in... make them repair their lack of quality...
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on May 12, 2006, 09:18:00 AM
Post by: grim_d on May 12, 2006, 09:22:00 AM
say even you saw 30 people on here with defunk consoles, theres another 1000 whos are perfect
Post by: GLiTcH on May 12, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
Post by: GLiTcH on May 17, 2006, 10:24:00 AM
Post by: GLiTcH on May 22, 2006, 09:49:00 PM
Post by: strider209 on May 23, 2006, 01:49:00 AM
QUOTE(GLiTcH @ May 22 2006, 08:56 PM) 
damn it. it started doing it again
Yep, I'm getting 0110 errors. I am now getting the 3 blinking lights on the ring of light about 99% of the time. When it does boot up, it only works at the most a few minutes. It looks as though MS has extended warranties past 90 days so you might have a chance.
Post by: XGX xINSANITYx on May 24, 2006, 03:09:00 AM
GAD DAMN STUPID XBOX!!!! i was playing an inportant ranked game on halo 2 when pow! the screen got all wierd and froze up. it kinda looked like the NES glitch up screens. you all know what i mean with all the blinking colors and crap. so i turned off my xbox after a period of screaming around and puching my room mate in the shoulder, turn it back on only to see none other than.... dun dun dun!!!! 
the 3 blinking lights of doom!!!! i got the code 0022.... can anyone shed some light on my situation? i would call MS but it it 6 in the morning and i stayed up all night pissed off trying to figure out what was wrong.
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on May 24, 2006, 01:05:00 PM
Edit : Progress. After +- 40 reboots I got it working once. But now it's the 0020 error...
Edit2 : Works again. Shaking it really helps. They should put that in the manual...
This post has been edited by Avenger 2.0: May 24 2006, 08:23 PM
Post by: Avenger 2.0 on May 24, 2006, 02:15:00 PM
I hope there isn't any permanent damage...
Post by: XGX xINSANITYx on May 24, 2006, 09:00:00 PM
QUOTE(Avenger 2.0 @ May 24 2006, 09:22 PM)
OK, I think I found the problem. The protective foil was still on the GPU heatsink
I hope there isn't any permanent damage...
i had the same thing on my GPU!!!! Called MS and they said nothing.... they avoided my whole question!!!!
Post by: bigjimmy on May 25, 2006, 12:27:00 AM
Post by: Z-joey-Z on May 25, 2006, 06:53:00 PM
Post by: Sharky3 on May 27, 2006, 01:15:00 PM
Post by: sowa99 on May 28, 2006, 04:19:00 AM
My friend, Bionix from xbox-scene.pl test it
Post by: Sharky3 on May 30, 2006, 04:14:00 PM
Post by: cdub998 on May 31, 2006, 05:12:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 02, 2006, 07:11:00 AM
Top post updated... thanks to sowa99 and XGX xINSANITYx we now have possible definitions for 0022 and E65
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on June 02, 2006, 11:00:00 AM
QUOTE(Sharky3 @ May 30 2006, 05:21 PM)
Any idea what type of RAM the xbox 360 uses? I heard that error 0102 is a problem with the RAM. Its gotta be cheaper buying 512MB or Ram and installing it myself rather than paying the $129 repair charge.
Samsung K4J52324QC-BC14 - 512Mbit GDDR3
Datasheet:
http://www.samsung.c...324qc_rev14.pdf
Doesn't look easy to replace, it's a 136pin BGA (ball grid array), unlike the ram chips on the Xbox 1.
QUOTE(grim_d @ May 12 2006, 10:29 AM)
dont be afriad to buy a 360, the reason you hear about so many consoles failing is because people who have working ones don't complain
say even you saw 30 people on here with defunk consoles, theres another 1000 whos are perfect
Exactly. I haven't had one single problem yet with my 360 (knock on wood), it runs great. All I did was put Arctic Silver 5 on the heatsinks, and put a heatsink on the southbridge.
Since I've heard about all these ram problems, I'm going to work on a way to cool all the ram chips effectively, since only 2 of the 8 have anough room around them to put a heatsink on.
Post by: illidur on June 03, 2006, 12:05:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 2 2006, 09:18 AM) 
error code "0102" is LITTERALLY "unknown problem" meaning the Xbox doesn't even know what's wrong (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
that right there means im sol .... 0102 here. happend yesterday,no warranty, 129$ for a problem that is unknown = bs. i had mine since day 1 tho. mostly played halo 2, oblivion & graw (which the problem happend on). somebody should find out what the possibilitys of defect are, and a way to repair. i would be grateful.
Post by: OpenXbox on June 03, 2006, 04:06:00 PM
Post by: Team Modfreakz on June 03, 2006, 04:25:00 PM
I think I have a solution for error 0102.
My x360 has the 3 blinking lights (error 0102). The Xbox360 was booting up and suddenly it froze, sometimes at X-logo or in dashboard. Sometimes I had also picture errors. (Vertical stripes and many rectangles) After 20-40 reboots I got it to work!
Then I opened my xbox, turned it on and touched the BGA memory chips. During this the xbox got more pixel errors and if I pressed strong enough, all pixel errors disappeared. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
I thought that I have found the problem, but when I pressed on the Southbridge the same thing happened again. Sometimes more picture mistakes sometimes less. So this means, that the problem is something there.
I remembered, that I still have a Ti4600 GPU with defective BGA RAMs. It makes funny signs and symbols if I touch it. So I used my Hot-air (http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/...60/01010007.jpg) and heated up this BGA chips. Then I waited till the graphic card have a normal temperature. And you will not believe it! All runs OK, no changes when I touch the RAMs. I also played with it and tested it with benchmark, no problem any more. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
And now!! I have done the same work with my xbox360. And also here, everything works in the best way!!
no freeze, no pixelerrors or horrible noise and no bootup problems.
I think MS has saved on high-quality tin-solder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
Attention!! I cannot guarantee that it will also works on your xbox360!!
If you still want trying it, be carefully and do not move or touch anything when you heat them up.
http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/...60/01010005.jpg
This post has been edited by Team Modfreakz: Jun 3 2006, 11:30 PM
Post by: illidur on June 04, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 05, 2006, 07:13:00 AM
QUOTE(OpenXbox @ Jun 3 2006, 06:13 PM)
I get 0110 what the hell is that?
are you sure it's not 0011?
Post by: OpenXbox on June 05, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 05, 2006, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: jasrCSU on June 10, 2006, 10:58:00 AM
Post by: kingmadness on June 12, 2006, 04:05:00 PM
seems i have an error code 0001. have triple checked is def this code. ?
what a pain in the ass.. !
says it is the psu.
has anyone else ever had this code ?
Post by: dryphter on June 12, 2006, 04:55:00 PM
Post by: vERdugox on June 12, 2006, 06:20:00 PM
QUOTE(jasrCSU @ Jun 10 2006, 06:05 PM)
3 Lights and an error code 0021 here. Any clues as to what this is? This started after my house was hit by lighting. I swapped the power and av cable from a working console and it still gave me the 3 red lights. I swapped my harddrive over and that is still ok. I have not registered or bought an extended warrenty. I bought it the day it came out from bestbuy. Is there any hope in contacting MS to get it fixed?
personally i have no idea of what 0021 can be, i had 0020 and im pretty sure it was GPU Fried!, anyway, since you know its the console and get the 3 red lights go and call MS, even if you have not registered or bought extended warranty, they will repair it or send you a refurbished one (my refurbished works so far so good... a lot more than the other one), you just DONT TELL THEM ANYTHING ABOUT THE LIGHTING or else they will probably say its not their fault and wont repair anything.
hope to be any help
Post by: vERdugox on June 12, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
QUOTE(dryphter @ Jun 13 2006, 12:02 AM)
This is getting really frustrated..First off I dont want to pay the $130 for repairs that i didnt do..I was getting the error code 0102 and the thing wouldnt boot up at all, I decided to open it...just out of curiosity to see what was inside, I remove everything and inside seems so spacious...so I know overheating wasnt a problem, plugged it in and guess what...It WORKS...alay lu ya!!!! it turned on, I put Fight Night in, tested out for one round and was sure it was working again, Put the thing back together and POOF another error code, but this one is 0021(some guy had same problem but said it was AV cable, I hardly doubt that..Now the Fight Night I had in the tray would not pop out and that dam 0021 comes up 2 seconds after I boot up. Open it up again and now it remains with the code 0021 error and it seems more frustrating than the 0102 error. AWWWWW somebody help me, help me please! Since I opened it would M$ still repair it for $130 or does anyone know what this could be, any help would be appreciated. thanks
should not have open it... now it seems your a little screwed... MS would have repaired it for you for free, basicly i (in your feet) would pay the repair, or try getting another 360 "if you actually find one for an amount around those 130$" and then wait so eventually you can may be later repair it for less money (when you find some one who can repair it) then probably sell it and get your money back... but... its still very complicated...
Post by: QporscheQ on June 13, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
However, I will say that I had zero problems with my 'Box UNTIL I plugged my iPod into it for the first time. I had my 360 for about two months when yesterday I was curious how well the iPod worked (I had the Media Connect thing streaming my MP3s so there was no need for the iPod). So I plugged it in, said "yup, it works" when I disconnected it, it immediately locked up the iPod and ever since then the 360 gives the 0102 error. I think somebody in a previous post dismissed a portable music player as causing his problem? May be there is something there after all?
Thanks for the help regardless, I've learned a bunch from this thread and I guess I'm calling MS tomorrow
Post by: neoed30 on June 14, 2006, 01:54:00 AM
QUOTE(OpenXbox @ Jun 3 2006, 06:13 PM)
I get 0110 what the hell is that?
I got the same code. 0110. Sometimes it'll come on and freeze. Sometimes it won't even boot up. It will just flash 3 red lights of death at me. Today I tried to play it and at first it would not boot at all. Then all of sudden it booted up and let me play Fight Night Round 3 for about an hour. I ended up having to shut it off like you would normally do. So I could go to the bank. Wanted to play it again about 2 hours ago and it just keeps on flashing, won't even boot up. I took it apart and re-did the heatsinks about a month ago but that only helped keep it going for another week with no problems then back to freezing and flashing again. I took it apart because my warranty expired April 29th which was 2 weeks before it started freezing up. When I have it apart the fans will sound differently when it decides to boot up than the way they do when it will just flash the lights. Almost seems like there is a possible problem with the fan speed sensor or some type of voltage problem on the board. Heck, I don't know. I just wish I could get it working the way it did when I first got it from Mountain Dew. Also, if you take the plastic vent out from in between the heatsinks and the fans then the system will heat up and the fan speed increases and if you leave it off then the system will shutdown and flash 2 red lights showing that it overheated. Now I did this once when it was flashing the 3 red lights at me and would not boot after being shutoff for a couple of days and when the fan speed increased and the 360 heated up some I replaced the plastic vent and shutoff the system myself. I then restarted it and it booted up and allowed me to play a game for about 15 minutes before it froze again. Maybe a solder problem?
Post by: OpenXbox on June 14, 2006, 10:50:00 AM
Post by: robivy64 on June 14, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
Post by: EATibConsole on June 14, 2006, 03:09:00 PM
Secondly, I have two question for the conversation. Does anyone know quick work arounds for fixing any of the 3 red light errors? Typically I reset the console tens and sometimes hundreds of times until it actually boots, then I'll run a flash disk to wipe the hard drive and system software. This helps sporatically. And is there any word on if MSs statement regarding the protective foil intentionally being left as a heat conductive is accurate?
Post by: shpydar on June 14, 2006, 05:44:00 PM
). Usually after a reboot or two, all would be well. This continued for a while, but not that often. No other problems with the 360 during that time. Now in the past week or two, the 360 has had more and more of those same "disc-read" errors, until it would happen almost every time i booted up a disc (specific discs include Hitman, PDZ, Quake4 and a couple OXM demo discs). Today, after expecting it any day now, i got the three-red ring. I was able to boot up Hitman again later and play for a few before freezing. Now the system freezes either right before or during the 360 logo intro screen -- but curiously the red lights have not re-appeared since the logo freezes started.just from a quick observation of how my 360 behaved, it seemed that there was some relation to the disc drive -- i had also noticed the drive makes a very small brief spin-noise (not unlike that old-school noise of a 3.5" drive looking for a disc, but much shorter in duration). I also noted that aside from the aforementioned disc problems, the 360 showed no other signs of trouble (live arcade, music, messaging, etc all have worked fine).
just wanted to throw a little more data out there...
Post by: angadsingh on June 14, 2006, 10:44:00 PM
I was wondering if my xbox 360 can be repaired on own or only MS would be able to help ..
Currently im in India and there is no support for xbox 360 here yet..
There is no choice left except to do it on my own .. PLease help me on this guys ..
What possibilities can it be .. i KNow its a Gpu thing but what can be damaged.??!!
Post by: talker1083 on June 15, 2006, 04:19:00 PM
I did the test and it looks like the code is 0003 which isn't listed anywhere as far as i can see
it starts like this.. (top right not lit, rest flashing slowly)
/
\ /
then i do white button and eject it goes to
/ \
\ / flashing fast
press eject two more times while holding white, it keeps on
/ \
\ / both times (so first three codes are 000
Then on the fourth press of eject it goes to
/ \
/ (bottom left not lit)
is this 0003 or am i reading it wrong?
This post has been edited by talker1083: Jun 15 2006, 11:21 PM
Post by: robivy64 on June 15, 2006, 08:09:00 PM
-R
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 16, 2006, 08:18:00 AM
99% of the time you should just send it back to MS or the store you got it from and get a new one.
Basically I hoped to make this something where if you get an error you could easily determine if it was based on the HDD, PSU, or AV adapter... those items can all be easily "serviced" buy you and if nothing else you'll be more informed when you Call Up MS to get an RMA. Some of those who have modified their console might also be interested in DVD drive specific errors and potentially fix those themselves.
AT this point we don't know enough about the console to really have any advice on how to fix it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I'm sure we'll know more as time goes on but right now.. just send it back
@talker1083
yeah it sounds like an 0003, since 0002 is a PSU error you might want to take a look at the light on your PSU... if it's Green it should be good, if it's RED your PSU is probably the problem (Orange means stand by)
@EATibConsole
That protective foil on the thermal compound is completely normal and actually IMPROVES the thermal conductivity of that particular compound, they use it for ease of manufacturing. Regardless it sucks compared to a GOOD thermal compound and you can dramatically improve the thermal conductivity if you were to clean the factory stuff off of both chips and replace it with Arctic Silver 5 or some other brand name compound.
The factory stuff SHOULD be good enough, though I suppose if your console lives in a hot environment and is more susceptible to heat then other consoles it might help (this goes for any electronic device that has heat syncs though). Even still the foil is not a mistake... it's completely normal and intentional.
This post has been edited by twistedsymphony: Jun 16 2006, 03:28 PM
Post by: Face on June 18, 2006, 01:02:00 PM
Every since then I've been getting the transparent checker board freezes during boot up, random freezes during Live Arcade games, booting with no video/audio output, and finally the 3 red lights.
Unfortunately these seem to be happening more frequently as time goes by.
If and when I do get the dreaded three red lights, I get error code 0102.
I may have to boot 10 - 20 times to get the 360 booting properly to the dash.
I suspect it may either be a bug in the dashboard software, or upon doing the dashboard update (flashing bios and writing to ram where dashboard is stored) some component has been stressed and subsequently damaged, hence an unknown error.
I'm contacting M$ on Monday, will try and get some more info from them.
This post has been edited by Face: Jun 18 2006, 08:04 PM
Post by: Team Modfreakz on June 18, 2006, 02:16:00 PM
If the EEPROM of the x360 HD is missing, faulty, defective or desoldered the XBOX360 gives an error.
http://www.freepler..../hdd_eeprom.jpg
original Hitachi HDD = E68 and Section 4 is flashing red // code 1010
60GB Hitachi HDD = Black screen and Section 4 is flashing red // code 1010
http://www.freepler....light_error.jpg
http://www.freepler....0/e68_small.jpg
Post by: Xfab29 on June 18, 2006, 10:42:00 PM
i succeed in correcting my 2 red lights (overheating), when getting of the foil and changing thermal paste.
All be ok but today I've got 3 red light of death, with 0102 error no video on screen.
The GPU radiator is so damn hot!
When i get the radiator of, i get 2 red light error (overheating)
wtf could this error be?
Post by: Xfab29 on June 19, 2006, 01:56:00 AM
information here http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=522125
sorry mods, but impossible to edit my last post
Post by: neoed30 on June 19, 2006, 05:23:00 AM
QUOTE(OpenXbox @ Jun 3 2006, 06:13 PM)
I get 0110 what the hell is that?
Figured it out. Your video memory is overheating. If you opened your case. Then try mounting a fan over top of your memory. I fixed mine last night. I plan on modifying the case so that I can fit my DVD drive back in it though. I've already cut some of my GPU heatsink off and uncovered the other 2 memory chips that was underneath it. I plan on cutting the left over piece of the GPU heatsink that I cutoff into 4 pieces and placing them onto the video memory with some thermal tape.
Good Luck.
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 19, 2006, 07:21:00 AM
Post by: Face on June 19, 2006, 01:57:00 PM
I've been getting the 0102 error with the hard drive connected, I usually have to reboot 20 to 40 times before it loads normally.
However since then I have removed the hard drive and its been booting up with no problems.
I will test it booting it 100 times with and 100 times without the hard drive and let you guys know the results.
Post by: Face on June 19, 2006, 02:45:00 PM
I had been getting the 0102 error randomly and thought it might have been related to the hard drive.
The first test was to, disconnected the hard drive, and repeatively boot to the dashboard 50 times.
Result: 100% Success
Therefore I assumed it had got to be something to do with the hard drive. I reconnected the hard drive and went into the System > Memory > Hard Drive. Going through each category, I deleted every 'Incomplete Download' indicated by the yellow triangle.
I then tried repeatively booting to the dashboard 50 times. Results: 100% success. Previously (before deleting the incomplete downloads and with the hard drive connected) this would have almost certainly resulted in a 0102 error.
My guess is that after the Spring dashboard update, any previous incomplete downloads would cause problems, occasionally resulting in the 0102 error. This can possibly explain why the console freezes during boot or during an xbox live arcade game.
During boot the console checks for any gamer profiles existing on the hard drive, if it comes across an incomplete download or bad data, it may freeze randomly. This may explain why it can freeze at different points during the boot.
For xbox live arcade games it also makes sense as the console is loading data to and from the hard drive. If it comes across a bad incomplete download it may freeze.
Of course I am guessing here, so this may be complete rubbish.
Anyway, so for those of you getting the 0102 error, if you can get it to boot normally, try deleting any 'incomplete downloads' and see if that helps.
If you don't have any incomplete downloads and are getting the 0102 error please also make it clear on this forum.
I have yet to play any games, and I may just be lucky but it seems to be booting more reliably than it was.
I will keep ya posted.
This post has been edited by Face: Jun 19 2006, 09:57 PM
Post by: cmd19872002 on June 20, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
Error code : 0102 (did it a few times to make sure at different boots)
It seams asif i fixed it (geting artic silver 5 in the mail in around 3 days from now
). Here is my story, i took the system down to nothing (includeing takeing heat sinks off), and also i did press down on many of the RAM chips (mainly checking heat and connection, might of been loose not 100% sure)
The first 2 or 3 times i turned it on i got the 0102 error (possible its also got overheating in the unknown part).
after that i got it to boot once, so i rebooted it a few times, every time worked, so i left it on for around 1-1.5 hours and then looked down (was playing counter strike lol) and 3 red lights but fully working in the dash(error 0102 agian). I didnt have a game so i turned it back off and left it.
Today i got a game (Full Auto) and loaded it on my projector (hd and all with VGA input) and used my vga cables and played the game for around 10-15 mins b4 the same error.
Then i figured it must be heat is causeing it so i put a very powerfull fan on it (blowing in the side holes while laying down) and never got the error in 2 hours of solid play. Then i turned off it, and the fan, waited around an hour and turned it back on, same thing 10-15 min of play and that error (never got 2 lights only the 3, 0102).
When i get the Artic Silver 5 in the mail i will install it and tell every one how my luck goes
.Thanks for the great info (if not for you guys, i would never of touched the RAM chips lol)
Cmd19872002
Post by: OpenXbox on June 20, 2006, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: neoed30 on June 21, 2006, 02:38:00 AM
QUOTE(OpenXbox @ Jun 21 2006, 01:12 AM)
are you putting artic silver 5 on the ram chips?
No. I've got some video ram heatsinks with thermal tape on them now to disperse the heat. I still need to get the case modified so I can mount a fan over top of them to extract the heat from inside the case.
Post by: Face on June 21, 2006, 04:59:00 AM
Try what I suggested in my previous posts. I haven't got the error since and thats been 2 days now.
Post by: Sharky3 on June 21, 2006, 09:11:00 AM
Post by: neoed30 on June 21, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Sharky3 @ Jun 21 2006, 11:18 AM)
I don't think it has anything to do with the hard drive because when I temporarily fixed my 0102 error code it was after I had taken the heat sinks off and put on Artic Silver. This worked for a week until it started freezing again. When it was working I deleted my incomplete downloads and cleared the hard drive cache. I think 0102 has to be a problem with the GPU or the RAM.
That's what did when I re-did my heatsinks with Artic Silver and then it worked for a week. Then right back to the freezing and 3 red flashing lights. I cooled my GPU ram and haven't had any problems since. Try that. It would flash or freeze even from a cold boot and now it's fine. My error code was 0110 though.
This post has been edited by neoed30: Jun 21 2006, 08:46 PM
Post by: Thirsty Fire on June 21, 2006, 01:54:00 PM
any idea?
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 21, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
sometimes it's caused by overheating...
sometimes it's caused by the HDD...
sometimes it's caused by.....
Essentially it means that something is wrong and the console is incapable of identifying the problem
IT COULD BE ANYTHING
Post by: Thirsty Fire on June 21, 2006, 02:06:00 PM
Post by: Sharky3 on June 21, 2006, 03:02:00 PM
Post by: pol4co on June 21, 2006, 05:49:00 PM
I already tried Artic Silver, with no luck
I also tried to blow a cold air directly over the 360 memory chips with no luck
the console just refuse to boot even when its totaly cold, so I don't think its a overheating problema cause there is no time for the system to overheating.
Can anyone help out? Maybe the a cold solder on the memory chips?
I tried to rework the sold points with a hairdrier, but I'm not sure if its hot enough
I would appreciate any help, thanks!
Post by: snowmandc on June 21, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
Post by: juanman on June 21, 2006, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 22, 2006, 04:19:00 AM
be proud twisted, this thread was so good it got ripped. the people over at seven sins decided to rip everything off your first post besides the x-s links and the contributors. damn assholes
O-Rly? I'll have to speak with them... it's not the first time my stuff has been ripped off. My PGR3 achievement guide showed up at xbox360Achievements.org with someone else's name on it... I've emailed them several times about it and received no responce... My Hard Wired DVD tutorial has shown up all over the place. A buddy of mine even showed me a book that got published with it in there... A few other random guides too.
It's kind of silly, I don't have problems with people re-posting my stuff so long as they ask permission and provide a link to the original source. Llamma has this guide reposted on his site, but he asked me if he could. And what do you know I send him a friendly PM whenever I update it so the re-post on his site is up-to date (similarly if he ever contributes anything to it he'll let me know).
It's not like I'm hard to get ahold of. anyone who PMs or emails me knows they'll usually get a responce within a day, if they're lucky within an hour...
Post by: neoed30 on June 23, 2006, 03:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Sharky3 @ Jun 21 2006, 05:09 PM)
Neoed should I try to get all 8 parts of the RAM? Or are you just talking about the 2 under the GPU heatsink? I think I'm going to order some thermal tape/pads and stick those on all the pieces of RAM and maybe order a heatsink for the Southbridge.
I must have missed this post yesterday. Sorry about that. I haven't tried to put any ram heatsinks on the 4 chips on the bottom side of the board yet. I have to get some more. There may be enough room to fit some flat ones in there. Not sure. I ordered a heatsink for my southbridge as well. I did put heatsinks on all 4 chips on the top half of the board. Yes even the ones under my GPU heatsink. Only because I cut some off of it just enough to mount heatsinks on them. I made of post to what all I did so far. I cannot post any pics because I do not have a Digital Camera. Here is link to the somewhat of a tutorial for what I have done : Somewhat of a tutorial
This post has been edited by neoed30: Jun 23 2006, 11:00 AM
Post by: Goldtiger on June 24, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
Post by: mandrake001 on June 25, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
froze first time at a game after 5 min play then after reboot hung at logo screen next day could play again for 5 min then hung again at logo screen now it wont boot at all no av output it seems all 0102 peeps have similair problems and maybe same solution ?
Post by: Rhyno555 on June 25, 2006, 08:59:00 AM
Plugged in "play and charge" USB kit (while console was off)
After not having played the system for one week, I turned it on and COD2 froze after about 1 min.
Turned off/on, froze during boot screen.
Turned off/on, froze during boot screen + Red ring of lights. Tried removing power/av/hard drive, etc..
Red ring, no video (over and over)
Panic, panic, panic....
Remebered the USB connection, unplugged "play and charge" kit, booted ok!
Connected "play and charge" kit, all seems well. I can boot fine on all different configs.
I guess it may have had a problem recognizing the usb device after it was cold connected. Next time I use it I'll be connecting it while the system is ON!
Ryan
Post by: Face on June 26, 2006, 10:22:00 AM
I am a little skeptical as it think the console I might get back will be in worst condition than the one I already own.
Post by: SHADOVV F0X on June 26, 2006, 05:59:00 PM
Post by: Sharky3 on June 26, 2006, 06:02:00 PM
Post by: dj007 on June 29, 2006, 06:56:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on June 29, 2006, 08:52:00 AM
0110 here too. Anyone know how to fix it? I took the HDD off but it didn't help. What else could be messed up?
memory refers to the ram chips soldered to the motherboard... your HDD is "storage" not memory
Post by: dj007 on June 29, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: veridian3 on July 04, 2006, 10:52:00 AM
I got the red light in section 4
Error code E74
Tried friend's AV cables, makes no difference. 360 will not turn past error page. This FAQ said E74 was AV cable problem, can't be that, what is it?
Phoned MS, they said they have no idea what the code is so will send lables then a courier. Is there a quicker fix?
Post by: sicknasty413 on July 04, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
Oh no. So what could've caused it, and is there any easy way to fix it? (Though I doubt it).
try putting some passive heatsinks on them...they look like this
Youll only need 2 of them since the other 2 are covered by the gpu block.
Heres the link
clicky click
There are others, just search around.
Not really sure if that would help, but it wouldnt hurt to try.
Post by: Megaherz on July 06, 2006, 06:12:00 PM
Post by: Tfizzle on July 07, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
0021
my thread about the 360 here in question is here...
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=529167
Post by: LilaQ on July 10, 2006, 12:41:00 AM
Finally got a 0102 too,. my xbox started freezing randomly 1 day ago, suddenly then the three red lights.
I have had no metal foil under my cooling units, but anyhow I put some Arctic Silver on it.
I read a post about moisture that had build up on the mainboard, so I disassembled my box again and suddenly noticed these odd marks on the mainboard. First I thought they were caused by heat and burned in, but then I tried to wipe them away and with a little force I had success.
It'll take a while till I'm totally done, but hopefully this helps me with my 3-RedLights...
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(IMG:http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8059/picture0278yd.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8515/picture0265au.th.jpg)
Maybe these pics can help to find out what the reason for a 0102 is. I think the 0102 can have different reasons as it may be some sort of general failure, which would it make really hard to fix these errors... :/
I'll post as soon as I completley wiped the mainboard and tested the box again...
LilaQ
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 10, 2006, 06:45:00 AM
do you live near the ocean or something?
Corrosion could definitely cause things to stop working properly. It doesn't generally effect simple circuits until it gets really bad but even light corrosion can quickly kill something as complex as the 360 really quick.
I used to work at an arcade on the beach and we'd have machines go down all the time due to corrosion from all the moisture in the air. older machines we could easily fix ourselves by using contact free cleaner and a tooth brush and re-seating/re-flowing all the chips but newer more complex machine's we'd often have to send the boards out for repair/replacing
Post by: LilaQ on July 10, 2006, 08:35:00 AM
no I don't live near the ocean, actually I live in central Germany. Maybe the really tropical weather we have had the last weeks caused this corrosion!?
I wiped everything off now, really carefully with an old soft t-shirt. Additionally i put 2 passive cooling units on the RAM's that are still visibile when the main cooling units are on the mainboard.
And it looks like I had total success. The xbox ran for about ~7 hours now, without any breaks, and I hadn't had a single freeze or anything else.
I hope it's all fixed with that now, and hopefully I can help people with this, who have the same errorcode. Even though it's not 100% clear if that corrosion or the new cooling units on the RAMs make the difference, but I guess both doesn't harm your box.
LilaQ
Post by: nomoreniu on July 10, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: neoed30 on July 11, 2006, 03:19:00 AM
Oh, well time for a brand new one.
Post by: 111111 on July 11, 2006, 12:52:00 PM
i think i made a wire touch these two places when it was on.
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Post by: Supafly707 on July 13, 2006, 02:44:00 AM
Now, I just started getting a 0110 error, the memory error/overheating thingy. I've had my 360 ever since launch in mid december or whenver it was and this was the first time I've ever had this problem. I got home from work and tried to watch a movie and it froze on the title screen. I sent an email to MS support and I'm waiting until six to call them so I can maybe get the info I need to send it in for repairs because I can't seem to do anything about it here. This is pissin me off!
By the way, does anyone know exactly what the 0110 means? What is the memory error/overheating? I might have forgotten to turn my xbox off when I left the house, but my dad gets home not long after that and he turned it off. I don't see how anything could have overheated so easily when I've spent some days with it on for hours upon hours playing Oblivion or Halo. Then again, I keep hearing the first gen 360s have overheating issues. Again, if anyone can explain what this error ACTUALLY means, I would be grateful.
Post by: Team Modfreakz on July 13, 2006, 03:48:00 PM
have just repaired another x360 (Error 0102) with Hot Air Gun!!
This box was really dead, no sound and screen only 3 red blinking leds. So I used the same method as I wrote in my last post.
x360 boots now just fine, no problems at the moment. also played 5 hours without stops!! hehe
Would be very interesting if somebody could repeat that and port his results.
This post has been edited by Team Modfreakz: Jul 13 2006, 10:51 PM
Post by: jfishel on July 15, 2006, 09:56:00 PM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jul 13 2006, 05:55 PM)
Hi again,
have just repaired another x360 (Error 0102) with Hot Air Gun!!
This box was really dead, no sound and screen only 3 red blinking leds. So I used the same method as I wrote in my last post.
x360 boots now just fine, no problems at the moment. also played 5 hours without stops!! hehe
Would be very interesting if somebody could repeat that and port his results.
i followed your advice and used a heat gun on my bga ram chips and southbridge as well. the first run i used a fairly low temp and a quick try proved correct. it powered on and made it to the dashboard. roughly 3-5 minutes later, it froze. that simply backs up the theory about the ram chips being poorly attached and/or poor quality chips.
IMHO, from the behavior the system exhibits, many 0102 failures are due to bad RAM or RAM that was damaged by exposure to heat. Try to think about this more from a planar point of view and less of a console. when a motherboard fails to POST, we tend to trouble shoot Physical Damage->BIOS->RAM->CPU (in no particular order). once you've ruled out physical damage and since in this case there is no adjustments to be made to the bios, RAM/CPU are the next logical areas to troubleshoot. by simply looking at the design of the heatsink for the GPU, it should be fairly obvious that there is indeed a heat problem where the chips located under the heatsink are exposed to higher temps w/o any benefit of the heat sink just milimeters above it. personally, i'm going to send mine back to MS and get a refurb. i'm curious to see if anyone has chopped off their GPU heatsink to expose the ram chips below, and added a fan to it. Even adding some sort of heatsinks for the remaining RAM chips exposed on the top of the planar like the ones referred to in the above post. Anyone wanna give that a shot and post the results?
Post by: jfishel on July 15, 2006, 10:34:00 PM
Post by: neoed30 on July 16, 2006, 01:37:00 AM
QUOTE(jfishel @ Jul 16 2006, 12:03 AM)
by simply looking at the design of the heatsink for the GPU, it should be fairly obvious that there is indeed a heat problem where the chips located under the heatsink are exposed to higher temps w/o any benefit of the heat sink just milimeters above it. i'm curious to see if anyone has chopped off their GPU heatsink to expose the ram chips below, and added a fan to it. Even adding some sort of heatsinks for the remaining RAM chips exposed on the top of the planar like the ones referred to in the above post. Anyone wanna give that a shot and post the results?
My Error Code was 0110. I cut my heatsink a while back and placed heatsinks on all of the memory chips on the top side of the board and added a fan. It worked for a couple of weeks. I think I waited to long to do this though. My 360 has now finally bit the dirt for good.
R.I.PI am currently parting it out. These items are now on Ebay. Hitachi DVD Drive, RF Board (ROL) ,Power Supply.
GPU Heatsink
Post by: jfishel on July 16, 2006, 11:34:00 AM
This post has been edited by jfishel: Jul 16 2006, 06:47 PM
Post by: Team Modfreakz on July 20, 2006, 05:12:00 AM
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
1/1/07 Edit: Link to video, hosted by Google.
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
Post by: MichaelNet on July 22, 2006, 03:54:00 PM
I also have an error 0102 with my 360, I bought it 14 days ago, I got this error for the 1st time after rebooting, I was playing DoA 4 on the Live -> sometimes, after deconnecting AV & power cables for the night, when I reconnect the console, it starts with freezes at the interface sequence boot, then in rebooting it lets a totally black screen with error 0102 -> 3 LED giving 4, 1, 4, 2 signal in pressing the white button + eject button 4 times. Sometimes the console reworks normally after putting it in "stand" position & it can run 4 or even more hours without probs.
I know the error 0102 's not well known, but are there more info about this error ?
This post has been edited by MichaelNet: Jul 22 2006, 10:57 PM
Post by: SoulFlow on July 23, 2006, 12:57:00 PM
This post has been edited by SoulFlow: Jul 23 2006, 07:58 PM
Post by: illidur on July 23, 2006, 07:11:00 PM
oh, and whats a hot air gun supposed to do to the motherboard ? thanks!
Post by: SoulFlow on July 23, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
Post by: Mightyni on July 26, 2006, 07:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Darkshot1 @ Apr 7 2006, 07:54 AM)
I'm getting the 3 red lights, and the error code is 0102, and I have no idea what's wrong. It gave me this error before, and would not turn on, but somehow fixed itself (only thing i did was plug in my mp3 player to it, but thats most likely unrelated.)
Now its doing it again and its not turning on at all. I guess i got lucky last time. It hasn't even been used for about 4 hours, and it wasn't any rigorous playing, so its not overheating. I just decided to turn it on and it did this. It also froze up earlier during Perfect Dark, might be related.
It says on this thread that 0102 is an unknown error... anyone know?
I had a same problem, I take my 360 to pieces, but no result. But one thing helped me. I have opened my 360 and removed a plastic heat-conducting path, then I turn on 360 and wait 2-3 minutes until the graphic card has strongly heated up and turn off 360. When I has again turn on 360 all worked perfectly. I think that 0102 error is a problem somehow сonnected with a videocard and overheating is the thing that helps to solve a problem. I hope this method will help all with a problem 0102 And as soon as there will be PS3 I shall buy it and forget about all problems.
Post by: jasrCSU on July 26, 2006, 06:09:00 PM
As I posted earlier I was getting the unknown 0021 and just randomly diecided to turn it on the other day. Well it cut on, no sound but the xbox logo finally came on. It was really sluggish and after it finished it gave me the service screen. So now I have an error E64. I then put the harddrive back in and its stuck back on the 0021.
Any info on these yet?
Thanks,
James
Post by: [email protected] on July 27, 2006, 02:06:00 AM
I had recently took my 360 apart to find out what drive I had. Upon putting it back together I received error code 0011 (2 lights lit 1 and 3), over heating problem. As it turns out the tutorial I used to take it apart show to remove all the screws (including the heatsink screws) took it back apart and made sure the heatsink scrwes were really tight and now it works fine. I hope this helps out a few of you.
PS I want to thank everyone of you, who contribute in anyway, wether coding, reversing, or posting, and especially to XBOX-SCENE. be cool and happy hacking, Pasqually.
Post by: twistedsymphony on July 27, 2006, 06:08:00 AM
Thanks to Team Modfreakz for the Re-heating video and BenS for the thermal compound replacment tutorial
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on July 28, 2006, 02:41:00 PM
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The two MOSFETs circled in blue must be replaced.
The part number is NTD60N02RG:
http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/product.do?id=NTD60N02R
I posted the fix a while ago, but it was untested, but Smartmod has repaired his motherboard by replacing the FETs, so the repair is now confirmed working.
Post by: Gerjan on July 29, 2006, 03:53:00 AM
When a original xbox360 game or xbox game is in the console the drive will not start spinning is it did earlier.
It seems the spinning is way to slow to recognize a game disk (dvd-video does work = slower read speed).
And after a while the xb360 says: "Open tray" as if there wasn't a disk inside.
/edit it's a sammy drive and mfr is 30-5-2006
This post has been edited by Gerjan: Jul 29 2006, 11:06 AM
Post by: Gerjan on July 29, 2006, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: Black_Like_a_Cat on July 29, 2006, 05:15:00 PM
I was like most people that believed the media hype that 360's were burning holes through chips. Then I thought to myself... wouldn't we have seen MS pass the buck on to the chip manufacturers if that was so? Instead maybe one of the plants rushed the board through the reflow oven and they didn't solder right. I would bet that the prob. on most of these returns.
JE
Post by: Tfizzle on July 30, 2006, 07:39:00 PM
had error code 0102. the xbox would not boot up until about the 50 try. after i did the heat gun to the gpu, ram, and southbridge, the 360 turned on first try.
i set up a GRAW server to run all night and when i awoke in the morning, the 360 was stilling running strong. havent had it freeze to this day.
Post by: Farbrorn on August 01, 2006, 03:27:00 AM
Best thing would be for MS to give a rebate for everyone encountering this 0102-problem for having it fixed by professionals.
Post by: HalfbakedLion on August 01, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: Tfizzle on August 02, 2006, 12:42:00 PM
QUOTE(HalfbakedLion @ Aug 1 2006, 12:43 PM)
how do you use the heat gun and where
uhhh....
Post by: MrCrazy1 on August 02, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
Post by: Team Modfreakz on August 03, 2006, 03:18:00 PM
QUOTE(MrCrazy1 @ Aug 3 2006, 12:24 AM)
I still get the 0102 with 3/4 of a ring. Any other suggestions?
Well, maybe you heat them not hot enough. so, try it again, you have nothing to lose!
Post by: MrCrazy1 on August 03, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
This post has been edited by MrCrazy1: Aug 4 2006, 01:01 AM
Post by: felixjoe on August 04, 2006, 06:13:00 AM
I got a XO with 0102 and no display. I don't have a hot air gun so I try to use the hair dryer at home ( which got 1500w power). And it's fixed. You guys are hero!
Just follow up my earlier post, my machine works but often freeze and got crap graphics on screen sometimes. Do I still need to find a proper hot air gun to give it a thorough blow?
Post by: jnglst1 on August 04, 2006, 10:54:00 AM
Post by: ff7alex on August 04, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
\ (/) all red except dis 1
also 1023 is wat im gettin on led
* my console is on and runnin but i get no picture on the screen and if i do it doesnt get past wen the xbox 360 logo is loading
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Post by: sowa99 on August 04, 2006, 02:32:00 PM
I was read about few problems, and my friend have also this problem.. This is something with dvd drive. I don't know exactly what now , but after change drive, all is ok.i'll try post news about it, but now I think it is similar to E65. It is after bad fw change.
Post by: bigjimmy on August 04, 2006, 06:31:00 PM
Good job Modfreakz
Post by: Team Modfreakz on August 05, 2006, 02:25:00 PM
also get this error if the fw chip of the DVD drive are not present or empty.
so thats all at the moment.
(IMG:http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/bilder/xbox360/e64.jpg)
Post by: MrCrazy1 on August 05, 2006, 03:04:00 PM
Post by: bigjimmy on August 06, 2006, 12:48:00 AM
Post by: thasaint39 on August 07, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
air gun method I used a 1875 watt hair blow dryer and the dam thing WORKED!!! I have
had it on for about a hour now the longest before this was 3 minutes.
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Post by: crosensteel88 on August 07, 2006, 10:28:00 PM
I fixed mine without opening it at all. Just take a blanket and lay it on top of the Xbox making sure that the cooling vents are covered, and turn it on for a few hours. After that, turn it off again and let it cool down for about an hour. Reboot it a few times if it doesn't work right away.
If it still doesn't work after that, I would try opening it up like everyone else suggests.
Thanks again for the help with the fix.
Post by: CajunSniper on August 09, 2006, 04:35:00 AM
0021 timeout between the console and the DVD DRIVE
1: FIX
Guys this must sound strange but i was getting an error 0021 on my console a pain in the A... if you know what i mean i couldnt play for sh.. i turn the console on and there it was the red lights now i did every thing put the console under AC
keeping it cool and still the error stated the same
SO of my experiance i restore the console to ORIGINAL STATE whit OPA xtream v 2.1 and done, FIX IT
NO ERROR 0021
So the 0021 error is duo to a console Timing out whit the dvd drive and secuense in timing betwen the console that for sure
Ps:0021 Error FIX done it in 2 more Console beside mines and fix the Problem glad i can help
Cajun Sniper
Post by: cam356 on August 09, 2006, 07:01:00 AM
QUOTE(MrCrazy1 @ Aug 5 2006, 04:11 PM)
Well I just did it for the 3rd time and I really focused a lot on all the chips and it still doesn't work...
You are not the only one. I currently have four machines with code 0102 and have used the hot air gun technique on all, with no positive results. Still looking for other options.
As for the 0021 code, fixed our machines using artic silver and adding cooling mod. So far, none have been returned!
Post by: CajunSniper on August 09, 2006, 09:42:00 AM
keeping it cool and still the error stated the same
SO of my experiance i restore the console to ORIGINAL STATE whit OPA xtream v 2.1 and done, FIX IT
NO ERROR 0021
So the 0021 error is duo to a console Timing out whit the dvd drive and secuense in timing betwen the console that for sure
so
ERROR: 0021 timeout between the console and the dvd drive
reflash your dvd drive to ORIGINAL STATE to fix the problme
y used opa xtream ver 2.1 to flash to original and hacked firmware gain
Ps:0021 Error FIX done it in 2 more Console beside mines and fix the Problem glad i can help
CajunSniper
there is a topic stick for this error 0021
Post by: dantok on August 10, 2006, 01:22:00 AM
Post by: leorimolo on August 10, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: neoed30 on August 11, 2006, 03:45:00 AM
QUOTE(leorimolo @ Aug 10 2006, 09:36 PM)
can u use a hair dryer instead of a heat gun?
You'd be better off using the heat gun. I doubt you'll get anywhere with a hair dryer.
Post by: twistedsymphony on August 11, 2006, 08:11:00 AM
a hair dryier on it's HIGHEST setting is about 90F
a heat gun on it's LOWEST setting is about 150F on it's highest it's 800F or 1200F depending on the gun
Post by: ivota on August 11, 2006, 11:56:00 AM
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=536769
But, today I press some place with finger, and x360 logo start then freeze.
I dont have a hot gun. What is that what i surrender in black?
sorry for english.
Post by: phil44 on August 12, 2006, 11:36:00 AM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jul 20 2006, 12:19 PM)
Hallo,
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
Mate a big thanks for this discovery, had the graphical artefacts random freezing then 'RED LIGHTS O DOOM'
Did the heatgun thing and low and behold happy days.
Thanks a lot as I had flashed my drive(thus borked the seal) and thought it ws off to ebay to sell for spares repairs.
Thanks a lot, and if your ever around my way a few beers are in order.
Post by: komodothesly on August 12, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
/
\ /
then i do the error code check and i got 0213
does anybody know what that is ?
Post by: komodothesly on August 12, 2006, 05:15:00 PM
QUOTE(komodothesly @ Aug 12 2006, 11:28 PM)
im gettin the 3 lights on boot up
/
\ /
then i do the error code check and i got 0213
does anybody know what that is ?
i meant to say 0021
i havent flashed my hitachi drive but from reading above it people have been saying to do this
the 0021 error is duo to a console Timing out whit the dvd drive and secuense in timing betwen the console that for sure
so
ERROR: 0021 timeout between the console and the dvd drive
reflash your dvd drive to ORIGINAL STATE to fix the problme
y used opa xtream ver 2.1 to flash to original and hacked firmware gain
Ps:0021 Error FIX done it in 2 more Console beside mines and fix the Problem glad i can help
that being said has anybody had this problem with using a unflashed drive ?? and did this method and worked out ?
Post by: Grim187 on August 13, 2006, 08:30:00 AM
AV Cables
PSU
DVD DRIVE
RF Board
Overheating
i have a 0021 sitting here that I'm currently working on, from reading this FAQ i figured it would be a easy fix, just flash the drive and it works, well after i unplugged the dvd drive and still getting the error i realized it had nothing to do with the DVD ROM drive
i did notice that the mobos previous owner had messed up a heatsink upgrade (applying as5) and it look like the CPU might have been fried (found one of the clips behind it wasn't even on and the as5 had been bubbling), i can say now that this problem defantly has something to do with the mobo and with 0020 being a GPU problem its most likely that this is aether GPU or CPU, i will post updates if i get anywhere with this
Post by: Grim187 on August 13, 2006, 08:59:00 AM
edit: now its back to 0021
Post by: komodothesly on August 13, 2006, 02:48:00 PM
Post by: komodothesly on August 13, 2006, 03:46:00 PM
QUOTE(komodothesly @ Aug 13 2006, 04:55 PM)
i also noticed that, i took out the drive and booted up the 360 and i still got the code. i dont think its a dvd drive problem. im still wondering my self how i get it. it'll go away sometimes but if i turn it off then turn it back on then i get the error again. the only way i can get it from not showing the error is leaving the drive on :/ i shouldnt have to do that tho .
over at the llamma forums someone posted that they got a 0021 and redid the thermal compound under the gpu and cpu and it worked perfect.
could be a possibility ?
Post by: Grim187 on August 14, 2006, 01:22:00 AM
QUOTE(komodothesly @ Aug 13 2006, 02:53 PM)
over at the llamma forums someone posted that they got a 0021 and redid the thermal compound under the gpu and cpu and it worked perfect.
could be a possibility ?
thats what i did and i still get the same 0021 error
Post by: komodothesly on August 14, 2006, 08:23:00 AM
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Post by: komodothesly on August 15, 2006, 10:04:00 PM
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Post by: MrPlow on August 19, 2006, 07:19:00 AM
Post by: Kefner on August 19, 2006, 12:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jul 20 2006, 12:19 PM)
Hallo,
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
Hey man! Wanted to say thanks for this great idea. I had one die on me just out of waranty and ended up buying another. So after reading your story, I figured I had nothing to lose, so I gave it a try on my dead box with the 0102 error code. I first cracked it open and used a hair dryer, cause it was extremely late, and that was all I had available. Well, it worked, but not for long. (figured I'd give a try since somewhere earlier in this thread someone had luck with the hair dryer, just not me) So the next day I called around and asked a few people if they had a hot air gun I could borrow, but had no luck. So I dropped 25 bucks on one at Home Depot, and gave it a shot. It worked great! I have even hooked it up to another TV in my house, and now have 360 gaming in two rooms now!!!!
Thanks again! YOU THE MAN!
Post by: Kefner on August 19, 2006, 12:50:00 PM
QUOTE(DDRManiacMark @ Aug 17 2006, 11:56 PM)
ok So I opened the 360 to fix my 360 because I have th error 0102. I tried to fix it by using a blow dryer, but its not working. Not only that but I dont know how to get off the Big metal silver thing in the middle of the 360 the heat the chips. Can someone make a tutorial to take it off? I looked for one but no luck.
Get the hot air gun, see my post above. To take off that silver heat sink, flip over your board and you'll see two x shaped brackets (i guess thats what you would call it, and only remove the one under the silver heat sink) Anyway, at the end of the four arms of the X you will see what looks like little metal studs in the center of the cutout. I just got a litte flat head screw driver, and pryed out the four studs. Stick your screw driver down into those cutouts, on the side furthest from the center of the X, and just pry the bracket away from the stud. After you get three of these off, the last will just come off by hand. To put it back on, just kinda do this in reverse. Pry them all back on, again, the first one you should be able to get started by hand. Take note, when the heat sink is off, you can see the little indentation running around the top half of the stud, thats where that bracket holds on to the stud, so make sure when you are done, that the bracket is holding on all four of them.
Post by: gwashington42490 on August 19, 2006, 01:58:00 PM
I've been having a problem with my 360 lately.
I took it apart one day, looked around and put it back together. Soon after I started getting graphics errors in progressively shorter intervals (ex: half hour, then 20 min, then 10, then 5, now it doesnt even get past the dash).
So I took the mobo out and tried the heat gun fix.
It actually made it worse; i get two red led's (overheating) and i did the error code and got 0011.
I tried the heat gun AGAIN. Same thing happened. I have no idea why it says it's overheating even though its room temp, which is 78 degrees.
Any help is appreciated!
I already tried taking off the protective foil(did it) and put the heatsinks back on.
I'm clueless...any ideas?
Post by: Demon Toy on August 19, 2006, 03:55:00 PM
Just tried heat gun fix on my 360 and now when i re-assembled it put power cable in and switches on automaticly and power supply light is flashing orange and green any ideas anyone realy want my baby to work again
Post by: bLiTz 2k on August 19, 2006, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: GamerX52986 on August 20, 2006, 05:17:00 AM
Post by: kallat on August 20, 2006, 08:12:00 AM
Mate i have got this crashing and 3 red lights problem, i think my error code is 0102, Please help me solve this problem, i am very upset you are saying in your post about Hot Air Gun will fix the problem and i have seen your video as well but i still don't understand what Hot Air Gun is and how to get this problem sorted. Please Email me on My email address which is "[email protected]" because I am online most of the time and we can talk on that as well.
Thanks very much and i hope you will reply me very soon, waiting for your email man. Please Please Please Help me.
Post by: k1Ng tuT 1O1 on August 20, 2006, 07:59:00 PM
Post by: komodothesly on August 21, 2006, 08:09:00 AM
Post by: cam356 on August 22, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
QUOTE(k1Ng tuT 1O1 @ Aug 20 2006, 09:06 PM)
my error code is 0102. and i see wat it says about that and i'm not under warrenty any more sor what do i do? take a soldering kit and just redo it?
I would not go with a soldering gun, get yourself a heat gun capable of going over 800 degrees. Then follow the video, link is posted several places in this blog. When you put your 360 back together, make sure you use fresh artic silver ( or any other good thermal paste), and make sure you tighten the 8 little screws that fasten the heat sinks to the base tight! If you do not tighten them, you will not get a good seat between the chips and the heatsinks. Also, I have been using thermal paste to tie the two chips that are already covered by the silver heatsink, into that heatsink. That has been working good for me and is simpler then cutting the silver one down and putting additional heat sinks in. Good luck!
Post by: Team Modfreakz on August 23, 2006, 03:15:00 PM
could also be a damaged, "disabled (no voltage)" or overheated GPU.
http://www.freepler...._error_0020.jpg
more photos here: http://www.xboxhacke...g25493#msg25493
Post by: Runkster on August 23, 2006, 07:54:00 PM
I heated the board to a point where the board was almost to hot to touch and kept the focus on the memory, GPU and the processor, but never on any one component for too long. I let it cool for about an hour before going back to it and it worked. Nice call.
Next is modding the box with blue LEDs in the 360 and the controller.
Thanks, I am now back in business.
Post by: GeToChKn on August 23, 2006, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: Runkster on August 24, 2006, 06:11:00 AM
0021 DVD Drive Time out - Can be caused by problems with a firmware flash
This is the one we are getting and are using the heat gun treatment to fix:
0102 unknown error - literally means the console does not know what is wrong. possibly a short or cold solder joint somewhere. So far there is 1 major theory for what causes most of these errors is that the Ram, CPU, or GPU are not soldered properly to the mother board This can be solved by re-Heating the chips DO NOT attempt this if your console is still under warranty. If your console is still under warranty return it to the store where it was purchased or call MS to have it replaced.
Post by: hackthatxbox on August 24, 2006, 04:29:00 PM
We have brought about 8 back to life using this method
it is caused by moisture on the board, after playing the console for a while it dries the moisture out and leaves a white residue on the back of the board, if you are unlucky, it will dry a solder out as well.
try the heat gun if you are out of warranty.
Post by: GeToChKn on August 24, 2006, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: nitussi on August 24, 2006, 06:22:00 PM
You cant use a hair dryer, it does not get hot enough and for most you are wasting your time. After heating, the chips should be hot to touch and you should start to smell the faint odor of lightly cooked electronics. Thats about time to stop.
Use circular motion, or back and forth motion like spray painting...DONT let the heat be on one spot for to long.
Do the 4 ram chips on the bottom of the board first, and DONT MOVE the board until it has COOLED...because if that solder is still hot, gravity can make the small components move from their spot.
I didnt cover my caps and plastic parts on top of the board, but is a good idea that you do.
I think M$ should fix error 0102 for free(all errors for that matter), because it is not our fault that they did a rush job and cant keep their minds off sony and how many units they can get out before the ps3 debuts.
I like to say thanks and give props to all in the scene.
Post by: blackblade17 on August 26, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
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Post by: zap branagan 00 on August 30, 2006, 11:53:00 AM
Post by: ChadH on August 30, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
Wrapped it in a blanket, switched it on, and left it until it changed to red lights 1 and 3 only (overheated). Turned it off for an hour, and it now seems fine!
QUOTE(zap branagan 00 @ Aug 30 2006, 07:00 PM)
Error 74 is not a bad A/V cable. As it is stated in the FAQ's. I tried to buy replacement cables and I'm still getting the error. What a waste of time. The people at xbox told me it was a memory problem. You guys need to get your facts straight.
Most of the information compiled on these errors is a result of input and feedback from board members. Feedback would have been better than you bitching about it!
Admittedly, it doesn't seem quite right reporting an AV error using an on screen error number, but then maybe you should have thought about that - dumbass
!
Post by: GeToChKn on August 31, 2006, 08:08:00 AM
Post by: joeyz34 on August 31, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: LordX on September 02, 2006, 11:09:00 AM
any idea what is a problem ?
Post by: gboshort on September 03, 2006, 08:16:00 PM
Quick thanks to Modfreakz for the video. Fixed a 0110 error today after 4 tries. I started with the temp at 450 degrees (F), followed the video exactly. Got green lights once, booted, then back to ROD and 0110. I gradually increased the temperature until I was running the heat gun (Wagner, from Lowes) at around 850 degrees. After the trick at that level, the fix took, and the 360 has been running solid for about 6 hours now. Several reboots, good as new.
For those of you that try a very 'ginger' heat setting and don't meet with success, turn it up a bit and see if that helps you. Just remember to keep the heat gun moving and let the board cool 20+ minutes before you move it. Good luck!
Thanks again!
gbo
Post by: focusruckus on September 03, 2006, 09:41:00 PM
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Post by: urwithmeleather on September 08, 2006, 04:27:00 PM
Post by: Grim187 on September 08, 2006, 11:13:00 PM
3131 - Unknowen
i just did a heatsinks window mod and put some leds in under the board, hooked them up to the 5v and ground in front of the cpu heatsink + added washers to the screwes that go in the back, i might have tyghtend the screwes down too far, ill check it out and post my findings
Edit: Nevermind one of the Smd's had burned out, 0102
Post by: Beauner on September 10, 2006, 11:24:00 PM
9+ hours with various tech support to get on Xbox Live...finally gave up and just bought a top of the line new router...worked stratight away!
Ummmmm...screen freezing after a few minutes of gaming...every game Live or not...fun fun!
AND - to top it all off....I now have an E71 code! Yaaaaaaaa. I call support and they tell me to send it in! Ya right! I bought it 2 days ago...its going straight back to circuit city.
Anybody know what the deal is with this crap? Reading through a few threads it seems like everybody here is having one problem or another. Is this Microsoft's marketing plan or something?? WTF??!!
Help please
Post by: Beauner on September 11, 2006, 12:09:00 AM
The "secret" error code is 1433...does this mean anything to anybody??
TIA!
Post by: Xenod on September 11, 2006, 03:57:00 PM
Post by: bloodog on September 11, 2006, 05:22:00 PM
Post by: focusruckus on September 13, 2006, 12:04:00 AM
Post by: Thirsty Fire on September 13, 2006, 11:12:00 AM
Post by: Psilocybe on September 15, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
only had hdd errors before this
Post by: Jerk29 on September 16, 2006, 07:16:00 AM
Anyway, since July I've had the error and have seen ModFreakz' video. I liked the logic there but have not been sure about opening my system. My solution has been to wrap the thing in a towel and let it get hot, by itself. This has worked off and on. The first time it worked for about a week. I was really impressed. But now it's hit or miss. I have even kept airflow restricted while using it, without error for about 20 hours, and then no boot the next day.
I did get a repair ticket in July, but I was out of warranty by a week, (how convenient) so I still have to pay the $130. I talked them down to about $104/25%-off, last night. But I just don't think I want to spend another $100 bucks on the hardware and then get another warranty to make sure it still keeps on going.
I still haven't taken it apart yet, but I can obviously see that heat does affect it's functionality, albeit with less and less reliability. So, my question is this: Say that the solder in whatever part is loose/bad whatever, of course it needs to be re-seated for a contact to be made. Will re-heating the board degrade the solder to a point where it doesn't make a good connection anymore over time? Has anyone had issues with this fix since successfully performing it around the July window. My other concern is that the solder may not be the issue, but an actual fitment of the components to the board (ie: warping, bad cuts, etc), which would be out of my hands.
Anyway I'm still trying to validate my decision either way. Don't want to pay, but don't want to disassemble.
This post has been edited by Jerk29: Sep 16 2006, 02:23 PM
Post by: h0dge on September 17, 2006, 07:17:00 AM
0102 errors, freezing, out of warranty, and not sure whether I want to pay the ridiculous repair fee or try to fix it myself.
What's interesting is that my 360 is perfectly fine running original XBox games - no freezing at all on GTA:SA, Lego Star Wars 1, etc. I think the "bad solder joint" hypothesis is right on the money. In my specific case, I suspect the bad joint is on some aspect of the hardware that's used only by 360 games, and not by BC games.
I tried running 360 games in 480p, just in case that solved the problem, but they still freeze.
Is there any way to open up the case without voiding MS's repair offer? I understand they use a sticker to determine whether you've opened up the case. Can this sticker be removed and replaced? That would be the best of both worlds.
Post by: Jerk29 on September 17, 2006, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: h0dge on September 17, 2006, 04:14:00 PM
1. Completely disassembled it (including both heat sinks)
2. Used compressed air to blow dust out of all parts
3. Removed the existing thermal compound from both heat sinks and both the CPU and GPU die
4. Did a modified version of the hot air gun fix - I didn't have a hot air gun, so I used a hair dryer on max heat. Figured at worst this would ensure the CPU and GPU dies were dry for the new thermal compound.
5. Added new thermal compound to both dies - heavy application. Covered all main chips, plus some extra.
6. Reassembled
When I first powered up, I got 2 red lights (overheating) and my heart sank.
However, when I took things back apart, I realized I didn't get the clamps on the heat sinks tight enough. You really need to get them in exactly the right position. When I got them tight, I reassembled and tried again.
Booted up fine, lights all green, and played saint's row for about 10 mins... no freezing, and it's still sitting on, hasn't locked at all.
Time will tell, but the early returns are promising.
Post by: foolishfocus on September 20, 2006, 02:45:00 AM
Post by: Jerk29 on September 21, 2006, 09:46:00 PM
Thank you Microsoft. Apology accepted.
Now if I can just get through the line on their customer support number...
Post by: Team Modfreakz on September 22, 2006, 12:34:00 PM
we did some simple overheating simulations to find out the right error report!
RESULTS:
CPU overheating @ approx. 67°C => error 0011
normal operating temperature: 41-49°C
(IMG:http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/bilder/xbox360/error_0011.jpg)
GPU overheating @ approx. 52°C => error 0012
normal operating temperature: 36-45°C
(IMG:http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/bilder/xbox360/error_0012.jpg)
die temperature is of course much higher, + 10-15°C
RAM temperature @ approx. 66°C => still no error
normal operating temperature: 40-52°C
We can also confirm that K4J52324QC RAM on graphic cards works at 75°C without errors!
(IMG:http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/bilder/xbox360/stp60839.jpg)
Thats all at the moment. I hope it will help.
Post by: Psilocybe on September 22, 2006, 07:32:00 PM
QUOTE(LilaQ @ Jul 10 2006, 02:48 AM)
Hey guys.
Finally got a 0102 too,. my xbox started freezing randomly 1 day ago, suddenly then the three red lights.
I have had no metal foil under my cooling units, but anyhow I put some Arctic Silver on it.
I read a post about moisture that had build up on the mainboard, so I disassembled my box again and suddenly noticed these odd marks on the mainboard. First I thought they were caused by heat and burned in, but then I tried to wipe them away and with a little force I had success.
It'll take a while till I'm totally done, but hopefully this helps me with my 3-RedLights...
Maybe these pics can help to find out what the reason for a 0102 is. I think the 0102 can have different reasons as it may be some sort of general failure, which would it make really hard to fix these errors... :/
I'll post as soon as I completley wiped the mainboard and tested the box again...
LilaQ
my mobo looked exactly the same
pry manufacturing time it ended up like that
Post by: versatili3 on September 28, 2006, 05:16:00 AM
Post by: Joergen on September 28, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
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Post by: Taher on September 29, 2006, 03:57:00 AM
One of the fans also spins slow and the heatsink over the chip is not get warm !
Do you think the hot air gun can help us on this problem ?
Before this error , we haven't any error at all.
And with one other consoles we have error 0110 , we still don't opened it.
Fisrt console is used about one month and the second one is about 2 weeks !
Thanks
Post by: Psilocybe on September 29, 2006, 11:51:00 AM
QUOTE
E68: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it, This can also be caused by a Hard Drive Eprom Error. Some also believe this might be caused by a problem with the fans.
E68 fixed!
just as a note, i had been getting this error for months now, and it just got worse in the past few weeks when i started playing box again
last night i hooked up the hdd to computer, used xplorer360 to backup the hdd, then popped it into the 360 and formatted it
hooked it up and restored my backups
all is working good now
no more e68
Post by: cubpack on October 01, 2006, 06:01:00 PM
Thx 4 ne help.
Post by: Psilocybe on October 02, 2006, 09:35:00 PM
Post by: Reyvn on October 03, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE(Jerk29 @ Sep 22 2006, 04:17 AM)
Well, the coolest news came in for me today, as MS has now decided that all systems manufactured before Jan 1st are eligible to be repaired for free.
Even Xbox 360 consoles that have the 'Microsoft' sticker underneath the faceplate tampered with, or removed? Just wondering, because my sticker has been removed (cut in half) but my console has never been opened. My shipment box to get my 360 replaced should be coming today. I doubt they'll still accept it, but it's worth a try. The manufacturing date was before Jan (10-10-05). I bought my 360 on the release and it died in June, finally giving it a shot a fixing it.
Post by: Crazymichi on October 03, 2006, 08:40:00 PM
Thanks to all in this tread for posting!
Crazymichi
Post by: Reyvn on October 04, 2006, 02:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Reyvn @ Oct 3 2006, 03:00 PM)
Even Xbox 360 consoles that have the 'Microsoft' sticker underneath the faceplate tampered with, or removed? Just wondering, because my sticker has been removed (cut in half) but my console has never been opened. My shipment box to get my 360 replaced should be coming today. I doubt they'll still accept it, but it's worth a try. The manufacturing date was before Jan (10-10-05). I bought my 360 on the release and it died in June, finally giving it a shot a fixing it.
Also, I just got back from Purolator, just sent away. I sure do hope they accept it with my cut sticker!
Post by: Jerk29 on October 04, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Psilocybe @ Oct 2 2006, 11:06 PM)
i'm going to go out on a limb after talking to many people about their error 0102 and say it's GPU related, possible bad solderjoints, overheating, whatever, but of the GPU
Actually the service rep that handled my repair ticket, actually said it was a possible cold solder joint, and that it was not a good sign. He didn't specify what joint it could be, but there is something loose for sure.
As for the questions about the "ms" sticker, well I think it's a safe bet that the system won't be repaired with it missing. I was sooooo close to opening my system, but I heard this news first so I never removed the sticker. But good luck to those being sent in.
And someone asked about the manufacture date. It is on the back of the console with the serial number.
Post by: Reyvn on October 06, 2006, 06:01:00 AM
Post by: 89c4l98 on October 06, 2006, 06:34:00 AM
QUOTE(Reyvn @ Oct 6 2006, 12:32 PM)
Are you sure they have no other ways to check if it's been opened?
The sticker under the faceplate is the 1st check method for warranty.. They can also see if there is visable case damage on the back where the clips are
Post by: verawarez on October 06, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
thanx for all your help
verawarez
Post by: Reyvn on October 06, 2006, 09:23:00 PM
QUOTE(89c4l98 @ Oct 6 2006, 01:41 PM)
The sticker under the faceplate is the 1st check method for warranty.. They can also see if there is visable case damage on the back where the clips are
Well, it's never been opened. Just a sticker removed, will they still accept it? Also, if it's not accepted, am I able to pay a repair fee?
Post by: eblend on October 06, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
the console would not turn on at all before, would give 3 red light right away, but now it boots up just fine. I am still in the process of doing intense training but will update as I move along
Post by: micraz on October 07, 2006, 05:43:00 AM
Post by: nrfrerich on October 07, 2006, 05:38:00 PM
I do have a couple quick statements/questions:
1 - The support guy on the phone told me it could take 3 weeks to repair the console after they receive it from me. For anyone that has sent their console back to MS, is this a typical timeframe or does it typically get returned in a shorter timeframe?
2 - My 0102 error doesn't appear to be related to my HDD since it occurs with it removed as well. For anyone that has sent their machine back to MS, did they return your original HDD to you with a new/refurbished console, or is the HDD a new/refurb. as well? I'm concerned that I'll lose my dowloads that I paid for because their warranty clearly states they are not responsible for lost data on the HDD.
3 - I've heard some nasty stories about people getting really crappy refurbished consoles. What experiences have people here had?
4 - When you add up all the time I'm going to be offline (4 days to get a box from them, 3 weeks for them to fix it, and probably another 4 days to get it back to me) - you're looking at over a month of being offline. I asked the guy at the support desk what they planned to do to compensate me and he said I'd have to call and ask for Xbox Live when I get it back (but he didn't say what they would do). Years ago, when my brother had issues with his original Xbox and he yelled at enough people on the phone they shipped him a copy of Project Gotham I. What experiences have users here had as far as compensation from MS goes for these hardware failures (no, that's not supposed to be a joke...)?
Post by: letsmod on October 07, 2006, 10:08:00 PM
after doing many NME installs
E75 - Network port failure
E76 - Network port failure
Post by: micraz on October 07, 2006, 11:05:00 PM
Post by: Cappadonna on October 09, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
. Or it could just be that completely disassembling and reassembling my 360 fixed it. Who knows. I've only played it for about an hour so far. If anything else pops up I will post. Thanks to whoever for the heat gun trick.
Post by: TwiiK on October 10, 2006, 04:47:00 AM
I'm almost 100% sure the E 73 is caused by the 360 being to cold when first booted up. I recently moved my 360 up to my room and in the morning it's probably around 10 degress celcius here or even colder and it always show E 73 when first powered up. If I start it again it works perfectly.
Post by: TwiiK on October 10, 2006, 11:16:00 AM
After testing it out some more I'm pretty sure it's condensation that's causing E 73. I'm not sure what it does to the electronics, but it's never good to have water in your electronics.
I don't get the error when I cool down my xbox, but if I play on it for a while so it's heated up and then turn it off and cool it down, I get the error when I turn it back on again. This is probably why it happens every morning when I turn it on as it was hot when I turned it off the night before and it cooled down rapidly in my bedroom.
Post by: ed724 on October 10, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
QUOTE(LilaQ @ Jul 10 2006, 02:48 AM)
Hey guys.
Finally got a 0102 too,. my xbox started freezing randomly 1 day ago, suddenly then the three red lights.
I have had no metal foil under my cooling units, but anyhow I put some Arctic Silver on it.
I read a post about moisture that had build up on the mainboard, so I disassembled my box again and suddenly noticed these odd marks on the mainboard. First I thought they were caused by heat and burned in, but then I tried to wipe them away and with a little force I had success.
It'll take a while till I'm totally done, but hopefully this helps me with my 3-RedLights...
(IMG:http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6598/picture0318uj.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/2703/picture0309mk.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/4510/picture0292io.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/3916/picture0287sn.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/8059/picture0278yd.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8515/picture0265au.th.jpg)
Maybe these pics can help to find out what the reason for a 0102 is. I think the 0102 can have different reasons as it may be some sort of general failure, which would it make really hard to fix these errors... :/
I'll post as soon as I completley wiped the mainboard and tested the box again...
LilaQ
Those marks are from the wash the board receives to remove resin residue are after the board runs through a solder bath. It's normal. I tried the heat gun rework and it worked on my sons 360. I'm convinced that many of these units were put together either incorrectly (not enough heat), improper type of solder, or bad BGA pad prep. They work fine off the assy line, but after a while the BGA pads come loose. Unfortunately I didn't know about the warranty extension, especially since this unit is only about 4.5 months old, or I would have sent it in. CRAP!!! Hope the fix sticks.
ed724
This post has been edited by ed724: Oct 11 2006, 02:37 AM
Post by: TwiiK on October 10, 2006, 11:47:00 PM
Post by: bigjimmy on October 11, 2006, 12:47:00 AM
Post by: Jericho_mpm on October 11, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
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Post by: eblend on October 12, 2006, 08:04:00 AM
Post by: Team Modfreakz on October 12, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
flashed the 0078fk fw on a v47 drive, to look if it works or not and if it possible to backup the firmware by software.
just a little test and look on firmware compatibility.
*as supposed*
the 46/47/59 drive does´t want work with 0078 firmware!! different hardware!!
get a E64 and a error code "1000"
btw: I get same error code if I use the phillips drive with wrong firmware!!
Post by: Cappadonna on October 12, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
I'm just curious to know how many of you that are having problems are using the xtreme33 firmware. My 360 didn't start fucking up untill I switched from 32 to 33. I have had my 360 for almost a year and no problems until now. Any info will be helpful. Thanks
Post by: Jerk29 on October 12, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
Took about 4 business days to recieve my UPS box. Sent it out that night at a local pack n' mail. Thursday. Received the replacement back around 12 days later. That's seven business days! So I was rather impressed with the overall experience. I live in Florida and it went to Texas, so that's halfway across the country too.
Now all I have to do is see how the new one fares. So far it's great.
Post by: BasicAir on October 12, 2006, 03:30:00 PM
Should I keep trying the heat gun again until it's fine for hours? I don't think I really got a choice.
Post by: BasicAir on October 13, 2006, 10:09:00 AM
At least my 360 turns on now but it's still useless if it won't stay on.
I need advice.
Post by: micraz on October 13, 2006, 09:02:00 PM
Post by: BasicAir on October 14, 2006, 08:43:00 AM
QUOTE(micraz @ Oct 14 2006, 04:09 AM)
Dude how u guy c the flash led know the code all i lnow is i having 3 led flashing keep on flashing i try the heat gun but no luck
Go to page 1 of this thread. It explains how to find a "secret" error code. You press the wireless controller button, hold it in, then push the eject button on the dvd tray. Your 3 red flashing lights will change to 1, 2, 3, or 4 flashing ones. That's your first number of the hidden code. If it's 4 lights then it's a "0" if it's 3 it's a 3, 2 it's a 2, 1 it's a 1. Keep doing that combo button press until you got your 4 codes. Look up that code (example: 0102) on the first page of this thread and you'll know what you can try.
By the way -- I'm still confused if I need to try the Arctic Cooler 5 or not. Again my 360 seems to be working fine except it gets really f'ing loud really f'ing fast (like 5-10 seconds) but it will stay on for 30 minutes -- I've had it on twice now for 30 minutes no problem but shut it off for fear I was doing damage.
Post by: mezmerize1 on October 14, 2006, 09:24:00 AM
QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Jul 28 2006, 04:48 PM)
If you shorted out the 5V on the 360 for some reason, and now your 360 has the error 0001 or 0002 (psu error), and using a different brick does not fix it, i have a *now confirmed working* fix:
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/Dev/IMG_0377_edited.jpg)
The two MOSFETs circled in blue must be replaced.
The part number is NTD60N02RG:
http://www.onsemi.com/PowerSolutions/product.do?id=NTD60N02R
I posted the fix a while ago, but it was untested, but Smartmod has repaired his motherboard by replacing the FETs, so the repair is now confirmed working.
I am getting the 0001 error and my 360 got fried where I circled in blue, do they sell MOSFETs for that 12 Volt source? Will I also need to replace the little rectangle thing next to it? (as you can see im not sure what they are called)
(IMG:http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f375/Mezmerize1/IMG_0377_edited.jpg)
Post by: micraz on October 16, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
QUOTE
Go to page 1 of this thread. It explains how to find a "secret" error code. You press the wireless controller button, hold it in, then push the eject button on the dvd tray. Your 3 red flashing lights will change to 1, 2, 3, or 4 flashing ones. That's your first number of the hidden code. If it's 4 lights then it's a "0" if it's 3 it's a 3, 2 it's a 2, 1 it's a 1. Keep doing that combo button press until you got your 4 codes. Look up that code (example: 0102) on the first page of this thread and you'll know what you can try
u mean press what button at the wire less controller there
This post has been edited by micraz: Oct 17 2006, 04:31 AM
Post by: xEmber on October 18, 2006, 06:56:00 AM
If you can send it to M$ do so of course might as well make them pay for their mistakes by getting a free fix.
For those of us who are stuck
THE AV PROBLEM 0020????
Weak or bad Voltage regulators on the AV output of the board near the south bridge. THIS IS ALSO THE REASON WHY WHEN YOU TURN YOUR STEREO ON LAST IT MESSES UP! Its because you send a little bit of current through the av jack for the amplification. This will actually cause a discarge from your voltage regulator and the southbridge proccessing unit glitching the GPU and hanging up the console on either a black screen or GPU distortion. I have been able to fix this by resoldering Surface mount resistors and Voltalge regulators from the av board using a multimeter to test for the troublesome ones. Also try the heat gun fix, the gun can easily heat up hot enough to resurface weak solder joints, just remember no longer than 2 minutes, and wrap everything else in foil to protect it.
But yes, if you can... SEND IT TO MICROSOFT!!!!
Thanks,
Paul
BTW THE LITTLE BOX IN BLUE IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF A VOLTAGE REGULATOR
use a multimeter and test the ones around it to find out its potential and then go to radio shack and solder one of their clunky ones on to it.
if it was just a defective voltage regulator it should fire up, but it something farther down the ic line cause it to burn up by pumping it to hard or if the DC current wave was oscillating incorrectly because the transformer in the brick is bad then it will probably just happen again.
Post by: register_ffs on October 18, 2006, 09:52:00 AM
On my board the glitch seems to be on the GPU. Normally the system freez when trying to play a game.
First I thought it was the dvd-rom that was the problem because of lag when surfin menues and so on. (in-game, madden07). The system have always worked fine as long as you havent played..
Although boot difficulties comes up right after a lockup. And, 5 mins ago when trying to boot after a lockup, i got graphic glitches and another lockup right on the "360" opening screen. Here is where i could determine the "GPU glitch". The pattern changed when pressing the heatsink. And damn that heatsink is getting hot!
Just wanted to say that my observations support the bad solder theory. Another thing that supports it, is that various people have "glitches" on different components.
So I will try the hot airgun fix on friday, after practice. Wish me luck
Post by: micraz on October 19, 2006, 04:19:00 AM
Post by: MexicanMonger on October 19, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
Post by: olay on October 19, 2006, 01:33:00 PM
- General Hardware Failure
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I get this all the time when starting my 360 up, the box also makes this screeching noise. The error code on the tv says E65. All I do is restart the xbox and it works fine until the next time I try to start it up. This is bugging the crap out of me.
A friend told me to try the latest firmware, because that may be the issue (got a sammy). Xbox-scene suggests it is the HDD that's messed up, personally I have no idea.
Restarting seems to solve it, but I'm really looking for a permanent solution so that it doesn't come back the next time I boot it up. Any ideas?
Oh, and it only happens when I start the box for the first time in a while.
Post by: Sambaz on October 21, 2006, 07:05:00 AM
edit: Here is the picture
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This post has been edited by Sambaz: Oct 21 2006, 02:18 PM
Post by: johnhosepipe on October 22, 2006, 04:40:00 AM
This is my first post, firstly i would like to thank all the people who wrote of there problems and solutions.
My error code is 0102 the std problem code and this id how i solved it on my machine. (you mad find this a strange but true solution to the way i solved this problem.
1. first i tried putting on new heat sink to gpu paste but this did not do anything. (i to had the silver sheet between the sink and gpu.
2. i changed over the washers onto the underside as to lower the gap between the gpu and sink ( this did not do anything either.
3. Time for a changed a direction. I noticed that the fans on the board where going slow but still keeping the main sink cool where as the GPU chip was over heating. I then found out that the fan speed was controlled only by the main Big sink and not the GPU so here is the mad bit. i covered up the 3/4 of one side and the top of the sink with tape in the hope this would slow down the airflow through the chip and increase the fan speed thus, keeping the GPU chip cooler.
4. I also made an air diversion out of sticky tape (dont think this did anything ) This was to allow more air to be sucked from the GPU chip than the Main chip.
5. BINGO this worked the fans now spin faster and keep the GPU cool and no more freezing or blocking and the main cpu runs a little hotter but not that hot as to set off the heat switch.
here are some pics.
I will upload later as i need to find out how sorry.
The thinking behind my idea was to get the fans to spin faster and therefore cool the GPU chip and the only way i could see how to do this was blocking off the air flow on the main chip. I am no way a expert and i do not now how the fans work, all a now is if the cpu gets hotter the fans speed up so why not get the cpu a little hotter and get the fans going a little faster and gingo the GPU and CPU both get cooled down to gether.
What have you got to loose a bit of sticky tape try it before to go and buy some new heat sink paste.
Hope my input as been of some use to someone
mines been working great now for acouple of days i will post again to let you guys now how i'm getting on.
by the way i live in England but the temp in my lads bedroom is around 24 - 26 deg C.
P.S.
Basically i was did not fancy the air blower trick as i might melt the board.
Post by: johnhosepipe on October 22, 2006, 11:37:00 AM
no more freezing or 3 red lights
This post has been edited by johnhosepipe: Oct 22 2006, 06:41 PM
Post by: johnhosepipe on October 22, 2006, 11:50:00 AM
my xbox is still running fine with the above mod but if you haven't opened your box then try it the lady in the shop says its worked on loads of xboxes that have been playing up.
Today down my local game station i found and new three fan box that bolts to the back of your xbox and allows more air to be sucked from it. The cost was £19.99 but if you haven't already cracked the seal it might be worth a shot before doing anything else and voiding your warrenty mine was already over so i opened mine and did my version of increasing the fan speed myself.
my xbox is still running fine with the above mod but if you haven't opened your box then try it the lady in the shop says its worked on loads of xboxes that have been playing up.
Post by: tedstevens on October 25, 2006, 01:42:00 PM
QUOTE(Sambaz @ Oct 21 2006, 02:12 PM)
Just had to register this forum to tell my experiments. I bought dead xbox last week and it gave me 0020 code. i read that this had come someone when he tried hot gunning 0102. Just hour ago i tried hotgun method for my mb and notised that pcb warps quite a lot when its heated. Carefully looking GPU from side that holds video and power connectors I could see that corner GPU pins had come off the pcb. Now I just gave more heat and pressed GPU down with piece of wood and kept pressing when stopped heating. Now pins are connected. Let it cool for a while and then connected power and av cable (note didn't have dvd drive with me) and powered up. Now I get error code 0021 which is quite a improvement. Maybe this now comes because no dvd drive connected. Could someone confirm that does 0021 come when dvd is missing? I'll try to take macro picture where thoce pins can be seen.
edit: Here is the picture
Picture
i dont think thats a "no dvd" error- when i have no dvd drive my box still boots up and gets into the dashboard. i didnt try running anything off hdd at that point but ive seen two different 360s boot with no dvd drives
QUOTE(johnhosepipe @ Oct 22 2006, 06:57 PM)
Today down my local game station i found and new three fan box that bolts to the back of your xbox and allows more air to be sucked from it. The cost was £19.99 but if you haven't already cracked the seal it might be worth a shot before doing anything else and voiding your warrenty mine was already over so i opened mine and did my version of increasing the fan speed myself.
my xbox is still running fine with the above mod but if you haven't opened your box then try it the lady in the shop says its worked on loads of xboxes that have been playing up.
Today down my local game station i found and new three fan box that bolts to the back of your xbox and allows more air to be sucked from it. The cost was £19.99 but if you haven't already cracked the seal it might be worth a shot before doing anything else and voiding your warrenty mine was already over so i opened mine and did my version of increasing the fan speed myself.
my xbox is still running fine with the above mod but if you haven't opened your box then try it the lady in the shop says its worked on loads of xboxes that have been playing up.
what is the manuf date on your xbox? it might still be under warranty
i tried the Niko 3 fan system on my first 360 but the rate of freezing steadily increased until it would freeze and give 3 red LED error within 5 seconds of boot- the XBOX logo would show, then it would freeze right there and blink
ms repaired it, ive used it for 3 weeks and it is freezing within 5 mins of gameplay in dead rising, splinter cell and saints row
the cooler seemed to have no effect on the freezing for me in either case. time to send the xbox in again...
Post by: wyscbp on October 31, 2006, 03:13:00 AM
Post by: doughnutgut on October 31, 2006, 03:54:00 AM
i think microsoft have bricked the 360s using error code e66 i am lucky enough to have not got this error message as my firmware is older than recent firmwares but yes i think it is a 360 upgrade clashing with your firmware mate.
DAZ THIS IS ME BRYDON MATE
Post by: nebeloc on October 31, 2006, 04:31:00 AM
Which version of firmware are you using?
Post by: xEmber on November 02, 2006, 08:23:00 AM
0110 error!!!!!, i think there is not enough amperage supplied to power all things on the board. and it glitches out the memory, GPU or the like or some 0102 BS! on top of bad solder joints, and cooling issues if you got them. But yea, this amerage is definately a problem if they plan on splicing it so many ways!
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 02, 2006, 08:36:00 AM
Though, could someone do me a favor and extract the 4 digit secondary code from an E71 and E66 console? I'd like to add it to the FAQ guide (credit will be givin of course)
If you do this please PM me the results
thanks
Post by: XBG 2d HENRY on November 03, 2006, 05:22:00 AM
Apparently this is an unknown error, but i believe it's a HD error. Was playing PGR3 when the box crashed while accessing one of the download packs. Had E76 on the screen every time I restarted. Unpluged everything, plugged the lot back in, re-downloaded the update packs, problem solved it runs like a dream again!
Post by: bluefalcon on November 03, 2006, 10:47:00 PM
Post by: Kabessudo on November 04, 2006, 07:10:00 AM
Post by: Bruinsfany2k on November 04, 2006, 09:43:00 AM
QUOTE(Kabessudo @ Nov 4 2006, 09:17 AM)
Someone have any ideia how to fix a E68(Hard Drive Failure) error?
Try removing the hard drive and putting it back on, thats what i did, if that does not work try contacting mircosoft.
Post by: mp3boy on November 04, 2006, 11:25:00 AM
I switched it on and it has 3 red lights, error code 0103 (definitely that, not 0102). Has anyone seen an 0103 before?
Post by: Agent TygerClaw on November 04, 2006, 08:30:00 PM
Post by: dougMod on November 06, 2006, 06:09:00 PM
Post by: C_Ripper on November 06, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
QUOTE(dougMod @ Nov 7 2006, 01:16 AM)
how can you tell what error you have? My screen went to a checkerboard and then now it does not display a picture at all. is there any way to see the error?
That's what mine does as well. It's an E71 (I actually saw the error message once). I'm waiting to see if there is a fix for it somewhere down the line. Currently, my results when powering on the system seem to go in phases. Sometimes it turns on fine, but will crash when I try to play games. Then It'll turn on and freeze with the checkerboard during the initial startup animation. The third thing it does is nothing at all (no sound or video). There is no pattern to the different results. It randomly does all three different things, but I've only ever seen the E71 displayed 1 time.
Post by: Albo on November 07, 2006, 07:57:00 AM
Post by: seanzgt on November 07, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
I think that Microsoft will more than likely extend the warranties for xbox's manufactured within a certain date. I know that they have already done systems made prior to Janruary 1st. Mine was manufactured March 2nd (bought April 7th) and Im just now having the code 102 failure. More than likely Microsoft will extend the warranty on systems made after Janruary 1st because of so many systems that have been breaking down and returned. They just dont want to do it because of the obvious money factor that its going to cause. But it will benefit them more and keep their customers more happy if they do just replace these broken systems. I think that it will just take some time before they do that, thats why I dont want to try voiding the warranty by opening it up. But who knows if they will ever do anything else.
I have thought about buying a new xbox then returning it but with my broken system inside. hahaha I think it will work, sometimes retailers scan the barcode on the xbox unit itself. In that case you just swap the stickers. Be careful though lol
Post by: budzrgood on November 07, 2006, 06:26:00 PM
QUOTE(seanzgt @ Nov 7 2006, 03:19 PM)
Has anyone had further problems with their xbox after using the heat gun method? I believe in the fix but I dont feel comfortable opening up my system in fear of screwing something up.
I think that Microsoft will more than likely extend the warranties for xbox's manufactured within a certain date. I know that they have already done systems made prior to Janruary 1st. Mine was manufactured March 2nd (bought April 7th) and Im just now having the code 102 failure. More than likely Microsoft will extend the warranty on systems made after Janruary 1st because of so many systems that have been breaking down and returned. They just dont want to do it because of the obvious money factor that its going to cause. But it will benefit them more and keep their customers more happy if they do just replace these broken systems. I think that it will just take some time before they do that, thats why I dont want to try voiding the warranty by opening it up. But who knows if they will ever do anything else.
I have thought about buying a new xbox then returning it but with my broken system inside. hahaha I think it will work, sometimes retailers scan the barcode on the xbox unit itself. In that case you just swap the stickers. Be careful though lol
ya but when you pay 150 for repairs just to get another used console thats going to do the same, whats the purpose just do it your self and keep your money. i mean there's ppl on here talking about they are on the 4th console. i myself just sent mine in for free cause its a 2005 but i know they are not going to fix cause i did the firmware mod on it but try them first since its free if not ill do the heatgun method after it comes back.
Post by: seanzgt on November 08, 2006, 08:24:00 AM
QUOTE(budzrgood @ Nov 7 2006, 05:33 PM)
ya but when you pay 150 for repairs just to get another used console thats going to do the same, whats the purpose just do it your self and keep your money. i mean there's ppl on here talking about they are on the 4th console. i myself just sent mine in for free cause its a 2005 but i know they are not going to fix cause i did the firmware mod on it but try them first since its free if not ill do the heatgun method after it comes back.
i never mentioned in my post that i was going to pay the $140, f*** that. thats half the damn price of the system itself. all i said was i dont want to open it up and use the heatgun method then microsoft decides to "extend warranties for consoles made from Janruary 2006, to April 1st" or whatever, then when i try to send my xbox in they refuse to fix it because its been tampered with. im just going to be patient and wait to see if they do decide to extend the warraties. if they dont, then ya i will be using the heatgun method.
Post by: daghostmon on November 08, 2006, 09:14:00 PM
QUOTE(dougMod @ Nov 6 2006, 08:16 PM)
how can you tell what error you have? My screen went to a checkerboard and then now it does not display a picture at all. is there any way to see the error?
Holy crap how do you have almost 3000 posts and not know how to search or read. Try the newbie section.
Post by: a flute on November 09, 2006, 03:12:00 AM
I have error 0102, wouldn't even show a picture or anything. I got it to work sporadically by wrapping it in a blanket and letting it nearly overheat. When I rebooted it started up and I could bugger around in the dashboard for a while before it overheated. Since then I've had some success getting it to boot but it always freezes after a few minutes. (Usually some nice checkerboard patterns. Tapping the CPU/GPU with my screwdriver doesn't do anything, but it does seem like a bad soldering job given the other symptoms.) After that it keeps showing error 0102 until I shake it around and such for a while.
Also I noticed if either sink isn't held in very very tight it crashes right away with code 0011. So I suspect 0011 doesn't mean overheating (they're still pretty cool to the touch) but rather loose heat sink. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I can tell you right now it's not related to the DVD drive, hard drive or network as I've removed them all.
This post has been edited by a flute: Nov 9 2006, 11:15 AM
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on November 09, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
I turned it off and back on, this time it IMMEDIATELY went to the section 4, again no A/V.
Error code was 1033, not one I've seen.
Then, after that it booted fine and has run pretty good, but now it occasionally crashes or gives error E71 (secondary code 1013)
Post by: Taglio on November 09, 2006, 10:38:00 PM
I too have a 360 with the 0102 error. I've been reading about the hot air gun repair and it got me thinking about how I used to test bad distributors for ic cracks by pouring ice water over it then attempting to start vehicle (use cold to close crack). Anyways I stuck the damn 360 in the freezer for 30 minutes. It booted up and all was well until I heard the fans wind up to maximum and then crash (heat expanded bad solder spot). I have to agree that the heat gun method to reconnect contacts is a great idea and approach. I'm gonna do it tomorrow. Thanks for your info X-S forum.
Taglio
Post by: Taglio on November 10, 2006, 10:59:00 PM
Taglio
Post by: a flute on November 12, 2006, 12:38:00 AM
Post by: ethylique on November 14, 2006, 05:51:00 AM
here some photos and few lame videos : http://www.okee.org/XBOX360/
I have followed this : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYv6b7MndJk , but with a simple 1650W air dryer during 4/5 min.
I'll hope this fix, will hold a long time.
sorry for my english.
Post by: StrictPuppet on November 14, 2006, 11:04:00 PM
E45, segment 4 flashing red, secondary error code unknown @ this time.
More details in this thread .... http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=563261
Post by: MatrixNeo on November 15, 2006, 09:50:00 AM
I can directly relate this problem to the network port on the 360. if i dont have the network cable plugged in im fine, but if i plug in the cable i get the "RING OF DEATH", with error code 0020. This should be noted as a possible hardware failure.
4 modded xbox 1's (lots of brothers)
virgin xbox360 (ring of death)
62 inch HDtv 1080p
Post by: mech_supernova on November 15, 2006, 06:14:00 PM
Post by: Excorcist on November 17, 2006, 01:00:00 PM
Thanks for a very informative thread. I have just had my first X-Box hardware failure. Had the system for about two months now. In the middle of playing Marvel Ultimate Alliance the display went blank. No flashing red lights though. I turned off the console and when it tries to post I get the three flashing red lights. The error code that I get is 0103. I first tried unplugging all the cables and restarting, didn't help at all. I then tried the hardrive, which also didn't help. I have since left the machine to cool down for about two hours and still no success. I have tried powering on the machine with the AV cable unplugged and I get the four flashing lights so the error is after it checks for the AV signal.
My console is still under warranty and so its going back to Microsoft on Monday. I live in South Africa and know one of the guys at Microsoft SA so I am gonna see if I can be there when they open it up and try find out what I can about this error.
Will let you guys know as soon as I find out.
Post by: xboxuser5 on November 18, 2006, 06:22:00 PM
I looked into the Rear at the A/V port inside's with a spot light and had noticed there was 5 pins that differed the way they were seated compared to other and were slightly pulled up and cringed back kind of and I assume this was cuased by someone tripping over the cord but when I pushed in one at a time and tested the error's some differed but after I stuck them all in and matching flush everything now work's great no red light's good clear picture and sound I almost junked the mobo cuase I had no clue what had happened but it is an easy check and thought it may help some other's to try that or at least look lol.
Post by: Dr JRE on November 20, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
Having read numerous threads here, I feared what could be happening, so I left it off overngiht.
Next day, turned it on, no video, 0102.
Warranty was gone since I put on the XCM Black Knight full case mod.
So I tried the hot air gun fix and the thermal compund fix. And it worked.
It booted fine, I played a bit of Dead Rising (~5 mins.) Thought all was well.
Haven't been able to play since then 'cause of work.
Come back yesterday to play some Test Drive and it freezes in 15 mins.
I placed my hand on top of the 360 and found that it was warmer than before the 0102.
So I let it cool, and try Dead Rising, again freezing 15 mins in.
I keep reading the forums here and some suggest that the 360 actually cools better standing than lying down.
After this cooldown, I try standing it up and play Dead Rising, and it works for a good 2 hours.
I stop playing to eat out, but notice the side where the CPU heatsink is under, warmer than before.
I come back from eating, 0102.
I've read on these boards that the thermal compund fix causes the heatsinks to become hotter (because it does a better job of removing heat from the CPU/GPU) but the stock fans are now inadequate to remove the greater heat from the heatsinks.
Short of a water-cooled 360, are the fan mods enough to get rid of this extra heat? Or something like the XCM high speed air cooler?
Or do I just hot air gun fix this again?
Post by: abuzer1 on November 22, 2006, 03:37:00 AM
F*ck u micro$oft! Special F*ck to FOXCONN engineers...
Best regards.
Post by: HSDEMONZ on November 23, 2006, 08:14:00 PM
http://hsdemonz.xbox-scene.com/2006/11/23/rip-launch-day-xbox360-%e2%80%93-3-leds-0-1-0-2/
Post by: Mjkthirdeye on November 25, 2006, 09:32:00 AM
I heat-gunned, applied AS5. and added ram sinks.
Worked well for a couple days, but still working intermittently. I get it to boot successfully maybe every 1/10 attempts. When it boots properly though, it'll work all day long as long as I leave it on.
I find that when it doesn't boot properly, if I let it sit while its on/error flashing and allow it to heat up a little bit, then reboot it it'll usually work fine... I just wish we had a definitive answer or reason for what was causing this error.
Post by: dayv25 on November 26, 2006, 10:31:00 PM
Post by: a flute on November 27, 2006, 01:48:00 AM
Post by: frankenbox360 on November 29, 2006, 10:07:00 AM
This is a great topic. I'm grateful for communities like this where we can see that others are having the same problems with their poorly manufactured xbox 360.
Anyway, I've got a February xbox 360. Bought in March. Haven't played it a crazy amount. Recently it fell over from the standing position into a diagonal position when my dog bumped it. I was playing Ghost Recon at the time. Ended up dying in that mission. Back to the save point to try again and it freezes up just after getting the video for that screen up. Restart and it freezes again. I figure somehow that mission is corrupted by the console falling over. Play on a different profile and all is well for a while. Eventually getting close to that spot where it froze again, and it freezes. Whatever, might be a problem with the disk or something. It does appear to be scratched (by the laser head) in a circle around the disk. My roommate tries it one day and I don't think it even gets past the game cofig screen. Turn off, back on, red light ring of death! Multiple reboots and no luck. Also no warranty. 90 days shows great faith in your product by the way! Way to go M$! Read on here some people had had success fixing themselves, so I give it a shot. I don't have foil on my processors or heatsink. Just a whole pile of thermal compound which has squished out from the die and got all over the caps on the top of the processors. Nice! Cleaned it all of because it is somewhat conductive and replaced with AS5. Put a couple of little heat sinks on the two ram chips that are accessable. Ran the heat gun over it for good measure and it worked. Figured I'd give it the real test so fired up Ghost Recon again on the "corrupted" mission, and it failed again. Froze up once in same spot. Froze again at config screen. Ejected disk and put another one in and BAM, ROD! Wicked! So it barely ran for 5 minutes in total so I have my doubts that it was heat related. Seems to have accessed corrupted data and somehow failed. I can't see a bad solder joint or anything like that failing at the same place in the same game multiple times. I don't know what the heat gun fixes but I'm pretty sure it's not re-flowing bad solder joints. It takes like 700C directly on a solder joint to reflow solder, and that's with flux. Can't see hot air reflowing anything. I'm not saying it doesn't work. It seems to have worked in many cases, but I just don't know about the actual cause of the failure. Lets all remember this thing is running some form of Microsoft OS. I'm sure nobody here has seen Windows lock up right! Could it be software related? Could it be caused by a firmware update? I don't know. I'll try the fix again and not run Ghost Recon this time. I'll report what I find.
Keep up the good work investigating what M$ won't. Cheers.
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 30, 2006, 07:09:00 AM
Post by: HSDEMONZ on December 03, 2006, 12:51:00 AM
Xbox 360 : R.I.P
time of Death 3:15 AM sunday dec 3rd, 2006
Ok.. when last I had posted.. I had experienced the dread 3 RED LEDS.. with code 0102. with alot of tinkering.. and problably none of it actually having any effect, the box was usable again for about 2 weeks. Maybe slightly less. it locked up graphically.. but would come right back.
well.. tonight.. a few hours ago I was invited unto live for some GOW.. and sure enough.. Poof. 3 RED LEDS.
Let it sit for a bit.. tried again.. 2 RED LEDS. interesting. Error code I got was 0012, Overheating.
I had hope at least that this error would give me some hope. For awhile it did.
I decided it was time to get serious.
I opened the box.
removed the heatsinks..
OMFG.. there was NO compound on the chip or GPU. there was however some lovely scorch marks.
fuck!
So.. I cleaned up as much of the carbon as I could.. applied the only thing I had handy, some AS5.. then tried to boot it again.
I got it to boot. yes.
then it died again. great.
overheat error. yay.
so.. I removed part of the cage.. (just a rectangle) directly underneath the position of the heatsinks.
put er back together.. booted.. yay.. booted twice.
died after a few minutes. Getting somewhere maybe?
ripped 'er apart again. screwed around with fans, the plastic fan duct.. etc. lost of shit attempts here. even reversed the fan direction at one point. some things worked for a few minutes.. to a maybe 5 minutes and then poof.. either checkerboard pattern.. or full blown 2 or 3 LED of death.
At that point for shitz and giggles I reheated the legs for a number of key components with no real change.
So.. i'm done.
walmart is about to make itself cdn 400$ on a 2 game core. or.. Futureshop or BB 500$ for a 4 game Premium depending on the currentl bundles in canada.
This day officially sucks. first 360 that has gone the way of the do-do. i miss it already.
Post by: unsaidsorrow on December 03, 2006, 05:37:00 AM
I use my 360 for 2 hours at a time, i take great care of it...
one morning, I was charging my controller with an official PnC, and i decided to shut it down while charging, and there was it... 3 red lights, with the error code 0020.
I wonder what caused this... will heat gun work for this code?
Post by: patcooper on December 03, 2006, 07:49:00 AM
Post by: juoksuhuuli on December 03, 2006, 01:35:00 PM
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Post by: Safrole on December 04, 2006, 01:37:00 PM
AT LEAST BE SURE TO READ THE POST ON 11/13/2006
Reflowing a BGA Video Chip on an I-Book
It's my unqualified opinion that the ubiquitous youtube video is a little misleading, through no fault of the author. I think many people who are not grasping the principles have simply emulated the look of it without truly reflowing the solder and thereby achieved only a temporary solution. Even the towel trick, which of course cannot reflow solder, works on a temporary basis. So thermal expansion without reflow can move the broken joint around a bit and restore connection for a while. When I read someone say "after the 4th or 5th heat gun session, you start to...." then I think something is probably wrong with his heat gun technique.
Notice the difference in the technique used in the foregoing link. (Ignore that rubbish about the propane torch) It does not concern itself with board-wide heating. It starts by masking the entire board with loose foil, except for the one part in question. The heat gun is started 12 inches away from the board and lowered very slowly until a few little pieces of solder left on top of the chip begin to melt, then heating is continued for another one minute approximately. Then the heat gun is backed away slowly and the board allowed to cool.
The most inventive thing is the solder chips being used for an ad-hoc "temperature sensor". Even if you prefer to shoot the entire board at once all willy-nilly, a little solder chunk on each component will at least tell you exactly when the surface temperature is correct. You will need to go beyond that to reflow the underside where the possible fault lies. But if you never even melt the solder chunks on top, you can be sure you've done nothing significant down where it counts. And if you only lick over the component enough to barely melt that chunk, you've surely not heated enough to correct the underlying fault. It's a dangerous business, and I think most of the failures have erred on the side of caution.
My 360 got the ick on Sunday, and the towel trick works great. Well, until I turn it off and let it get cold again. I now have to get it hot to "jump start" it every time. So I'm a good candidate for this fix. I will do each component individually, since I don't have the guts to melt all those components at once. I'll try to post back for posterity.
This post has been edited by Safrole: Dec 4 2006, 09:40 PM
Post by: Safrole on December 04, 2006, 02:29:00 PM
You have increased the pressure on the GPU? This is very much the way the fellow with the intermittent I-book determined where his fault was; he pressed on the chipset and it would work. It's my understanding that the 3-light error is not heat related. Aren't the heat-related errors indicated with two lights? This makes me think you've "solved" your problem by physically pushing down harder on the GPU, forcing a better connection underneath it. I truly hope it lasts for a long time for you.
Post by: sfnh on December 04, 2006, 11:49:00 PM
Post by: nick.king on December 05, 2006, 02:21:00 AM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jun 3 2006, 11:32 PM)
Hallo together!!
I think I have a solution for error 0102.
My x360 has the 3 blinking lights (error 0102). The Xbox360 was booting up and suddenly it froze, sometimes at X-logo or in dashboard. Sometimes I had also picture errors. (Vertical stripes and many rectangles) After 20-40 reboots I got it to work!
Then I opened my xbox, turned it on and touched the BGA memory chips. During this the xbox got more pixel errors and if I pressed strong enough, all pixel errors disappeared.
I thought that I have found the problem, but when I pressed on the Southbridge the same thing happened again. Sometimes more picture mistakes sometimes less. So this means, that the problem is something there.
I remembered, that I still have a Ti4600 GPU with defective BGA RAMs. It makes funny signs and symbols if I touch it. So I used my Hot-air (http://www.freepler....60/01010007.jpg) and heated up this BGA chips. Then I waited till the graphic card have a normal temperature. And you will not believe it! All runs OK, no changes when I touch the RAMs. I also played with it and tested it with benchmark, no problem any more.
And now!! I have done the same work with my xbox360. And also here, everything works in the best way!!
no freeze, no pixelerrors or horrible noise and no bootup problems.
I think MS has saved on high-quality tin-solder.
Attention!! I cannot guarantee that it will also works on your xbox360!!
If you still want trying it, be carefully and do not move or touch anything when you heat them up.
http://www.freepler....60/01010005.jpg
Hi,
Out of interest how long did you heat the chips up for and did you heat just the underside of the board or the top of the chips as well?
Thanks,
Nick.
Post by: DWells55 on December 05, 2006, 02:20:00 PM
We've tried rebooting the system with the hard drive in and the hard drive out, doesn't make a difference. Just to eliminate as many variables, it's tested with the HDD always out and the TV switch on Standard TV instead of HDTV. Here's the findings so far:
The majority of the time the system does the Three Red Lights of Death. Error code 0102 almost every time, with the exception of once turning up 0103. So that's:
QUOTE
0102 unknown error - though it's most likely GPU related literally means the console does not know what is wrong. possibly a short or cold solder joint somewhere. So far there is 1 major theory for what causes most of these errors is that the Ram, CPU, or GPU are not soldered properly to the mother board due either to poor manufacturing or excessive heat up and cool down cycles that stress, weaken and eventually break the soldered connection. This can be solved by re-Heating the chips DO NOT attempt this if your console is still under warranty. If your console is still under warranty return it to the store where it was purchased or call MS to have it replaced. I have also heard of limited success by simply switching the AV cable from "HDTV" mode to "TV" mode.
0103 (not yet known)
0103 (not yet known)
Then, we started dealing with the One Red Light of Death. First it turned up E79, a hard drive error, yet there wasn't a hard drive in the unit. Next it managed to get E71, supposedly a dashboard update problem, even though the system has been running fine until today with the latest dashboard error.
QUOTE
E71: possibly a dashboard update error, there is no solution at present the console must be sent back to MS for repair
E79: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
E79: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it
It's also managed to make it to the dashboard once and then crash, and make it to the boot logo once and immediately crash. This thing is really confusing - anyone have the slightest clue as to what this thing's deal is?
Post by: a flute on December 05, 2006, 08:23:00 PM
Post by: DWells55 on December 05, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
Post by: a flute on December 05, 2006, 09:10:00 PM
Post by: Koo Amon on January 08, 2007, 06:23:00 PM
Post by: Alexus I on January 08, 2007, 11:35:00 PM
1) Have disassembled xbox, have pulled out motherboard, cut out from transparent box for CD of a lining for cooler GPU and CPU
2) Have inserted these linings (like this http://foto.mail.ru/mail/lukyanov_2001/xbox360/1.html) between motherboard and clips of a cooler (one for single clip and second for twice clips), have connected a power unit and a videocord, have disconnected a cooler and have waited for 2 mines
3) Have full assembled console, connected cooler and have established it VERTICALLY, more no failures are present!!!
This post has been edited by Alexus I: Jan 9 2007, 07:45 AM
Post by: Anjo on January 09, 2007, 04:51:00 PM
I've a modded 360, and I'm getting the E 64. I've read all this thread but it seems that there's not a solution. Am I wrong????
Please... I'm so desperated to play at leat for 30 min in a row...
Thanks
Post by: G3nt1eman on January 10, 2007, 08:26:00 AM
secondary code is 1013.
anybody? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on January 13, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE
0003 (not yet known)
error 0003 indicates a problem with the high current power supply powering the GPU, either a short circuit (in which case you will hear a brief "buzzing" noise when trying to power on the 360), or a damaged MOSFET or controller chip.
I currently do not know if a short on the CPU power supply will cause the same error or not, the two supplies are independent of each other. Somebody could take an already dead motherboard and put a bridge on one of the capacitors under the CPU to find out.
Post by: xlinkx on January 14, 2007, 02:49:00 PM
My heat gun has dual heat selection 750F LOW & 1000F HIGH.
Post by: jROC99 on January 14, 2007, 04:57:00 PM
Xbox360 giving 3 red lights on power up, verified code 0102.
Found that by lightly pressing on the two samsung chips that are not underneath the heat sink , I could make the console boot to the dashboard.
Those two chips reflowed with Mastercraft heatgun on low setting .. approx. 480F
X360 booted right away and I have had it playing a game intro for over 1hr so far.
If anyone around Toronto, Ontario has a similar x360 issue and needs their console repaired.. look me up.
jROC
http://www.hitz-online.com/mods/
Post by: xlinkx on January 18, 2007, 01:35:00 AM
Post by: cmd19872002 on January 18, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
But now its not working any more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif), im going to get a better heat gun (for solder rework) and hopefully that will fix it. (currently useing a heat gun thats made for shrink wrap, about 500f low 1000f high)
Im buying another system on ebay (hopeing for a ez fix/ 3 lights) so maybe i will just get that 1 working and sell the other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
~Cmd19872002~
Post by: mygameswirelesscom on January 18, 2007, 08:44:00 PM
QUOTE(cmd19872002 @ Jan 18 2007, 04:51 PM)
Humm, i fixed my board about 4-5 times for error 0102 (heat trick).
But now its not working any more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif), im going to get a better heat gun (for solder rework) and hopefully that will fix it. (currently useing a heat gun thats made for shrink wrap, about 500f low 1000f high)
Im buying another system on ebay (hopeing for a ez fix/ 3 lights) so maybe i will just get that 1 working and sell the other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif).
~Cmd19872002~
hey did you see look up man !!
if it is me i will try the toothpick trick !!
i fix my 360s all day !!
works 90day stell working hard 24hr !!
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 19, 2007, 10:42:00 AM
I got error code 0102 last night, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) tried the toothpick trick, didnt work, im going to try and reflow the chips, but if this doesnt work is there anyone who is willing to repair my poor 360? Perferably someone with expierence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 19, 2007, 12:34:00 PM
QUOTE(speedygonzolas3 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:49 PM)
Hey,
I got error code 0102 last night, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) tried the toothpick trick, didnt work, im going to try and reflow the chips, but if this doesnt work is there anyone who is willing to repair my poor 360? Perferably someone with expierence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Well, used the heat gun fix, im not sure how well of a job i did (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , but atleast my 360 is now up and running, im not sure for how long though, i am wondering (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif) if i finally got around to watercooling my 360 like i have been talking about doing for awhile that this problem would be fixed. Any ideas??
Post by: xlinkx on January 20, 2007, 02:00:00 AM
QUOTE(speedygonzolas3 @ Jan 19 2007, 07:49 PM)
Hey,
I got error code 0102 last night, (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) tried the toothpick trick, didnt work, im going to try and reflow the chips, but if this doesnt work is there anyone who is willing to repair my poor 360? Perferably someone with expierence (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
This is what I did to get my 360 working.
Step 1. Heat gun trick on high setting 1000F (focus on the GPU) burn da shiet out of it, but in circular movement no long than 3 mins. After I'm done burning the GPU. I used something heavy to let it sit on the GPU for 30 mins. Step 2. Replace thermal compound. Step 3. Toothpick trick. My 360 has been running for 3 days now. It boots up every single time I turn it on.
This post has been edited by xlinkx: Jan 20 2007, 10:02 AM
Post by: kdeuce7 on January 20, 2007, 12:22:00 PM
Then the next time i tried it around 700 F, and actually worked the chips a little longer.. That was good for about 30mins. So today I took it and heated it at like 900-1000 F and actually worked the board alot longer (maybe about 2mins on just the chips, i know thats about the recommended time). I also replaced the shitty thermal compound I was using with arctic 5 and used the toothpick trick. Well so far I've gotten about an hour of flawless play. Knock on wood, but this time it seems to be running muuch nicer.
As far as the toothpick trick goes, I noticed I was able to get ALOT of wedge, Microsoft needs to put quality over quantity and stop released shitty products in a hurry to try and one up their competitors.... Why do you think window's has daily updates available for download.
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 20, 2007, 02:28:00 PM
QUOTE(xlinkx @ Jan 20 2007, 11:07 AM)
This is what I did to get my 360 working.
Step 1. Heat gun trick on high setting 1000F (focus on the GPU) burn da shiet out of it, but in circular movement no long than 3 mins. After I'm done burning the GPU. I used something heavy to let it sit on the GPU for 30 mins. Step 2. Replace thermal compound. Step 3. Toothpick trick. My 360 has been running for 3 days now. It boots up every single time I turn it on.
I had to borrow my g-pas heat gun, damn thing is so old, it doenst have any type of setting to change the temp so i use a thermometer on my board, ne ways i think i have done a pretty good job on my xbox considering its been about 24 hours of almost non stop gameplay and no error codes what so ever i hope everyone else has as much sucess as i did, the next thing im doing is moving on to some sort of high performance cooling mod, ive got all of the materials list for a water cooling project, but im worried about losing the mobility of my console
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 20, 2007, 03:12:00 PM
This post has been edited by speedygonzolas3: Jan 20 2007, 11:13 PM
Post by: xlinkx on January 21, 2007, 12:25:00 AM
QUOTE(speedygonzolas3 @ Jan 21 2007, 12:19 AM)
Hey xlinkx i was wondering, how long has your 360 been running without errors since you did all of those things?
4 days.
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 21, 2007, 11:18:00 AM
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 21, 2007, 01:45:00 PM
Post by: mygameswirelesscom on January 21, 2007, 05:16:00 PM
QUOTE(speedygonzolas3 @ Jan 21 2007, 09:52 PM)
hey do a one more heat gun
but this time more heat with tooth pick on !!
it will work 4 u
and do it good it will last long time
hey good luck n let us know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 22, 2007, 08:28:00 PM
QUOTE(mygameswirelesscom @ Jan 22 2007, 02:23 AM)
hey do a one more heat gun
but this time more heat with tooth pick on !!
it will work 4 u
and do it good it will last long time
hey good luck n let us know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Yeah the wierd thing is, it gave me a ROD and now it hasnt, i didnt go through and get the error code i think it may have been something else but still its wierd. Im going to watercool my xbox hopefully that will help ive just got to wait untill newegg gets my pump and radiator in. Anyways thanks guys you have been alot of help, hopefully i dont get anymore errors
Post by: Safrole on January 24, 2007, 12:20:00 PM
@xlink: I like your procedure. I got mine plenty hot, too, but it failed after about 50 days. I estimate 50 hrs and 25-35 thermal cycles. I think pressure on the chip while at reflow temperature would have helped me. But who really knows? Once I have enough knowledge to do the reballing, I could go that way. BTW I keep hearing a Tom Petty song in my head when I read about that.
I'm wondering about a home-based procedure. It looks like you get the chip up to reflow temp then pull it carefully off. Then clean off all the old solder with wick and wash it down with isopropyl. Then put the slightest smear of no-clean flux on each pad of chip and board, then stick a ball onto each flux spot on the board, then set the chip on them and heat it back up to reflow. Sounds easy, huh?
Post by: plz help me on January 24, 2007, 03:55:00 PM
Post by: whyudie on January 25, 2007, 02:56:00 PM
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 26, 2007, 06:28:00 AM
QUOTE(Safrole @ Jan 24 2007, 09:27 PM)
Water cooling is a lot of work to do to a poorly designed system. If there was too much moisture or an insufficient temperature profile during the original manufacturing, then the errors present in your box and mine will be very difficult to permanently repair. Reducing the thermal swing with watercooling may help, but I suspect these guys who are proposing a complete reballing of the BGAs are probably on the only sure track. And by "sure" I mean only if you succeed. It's a lot like doing an open heart surgery in your living room with a steak knife and some sewing thread...........................
Yea basiclly im just trying to buy time for my console untill I can skrwounge up the extra $$ to buy a new console, or another motherboard/drive combo off of ebay, but if anyone is internested in selling me one plz contact me at [email protected], so im just wondering how long mine is going to last. Its been about 2 weeks now, so im thinking I did a pretty damn good job with the heatgun. Only time will tell.
QUOTE(whyudie @ Jan 26 2007, 12:03 AM)
I got error 74 recently..anyone knows how to fixed it? Please help.. : (
If your error code is E74 you just need to buy a new AV cable
This post has been edited by speedygonzolas3: Jan 26 2007, 02:29 PM
Post by: AquilaEagle on January 27, 2007, 06:43:00 AM
Thanks
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on January 27, 2007, 01:47:00 PM
QUOTE(AquilaEagle @ Jan 27 2007, 03:50 PM)
Just want to add my thanks to the forum here. I've just bought a non working xbox 360 core, to see if I could mend it and I did the heat trick with a hairdryer (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I was getting code 0110, and that is now sorted, but I am now getting E65 when it boots up, I have checked that the DVD is all plugged in properly. Anyone know what I can check next? It is completely standard and not modded at all
Thanks
Could be a number of things you should check the list at the beginning of this thread
Post by: nwo504 on January 27, 2007, 09:31:00 PM
Post by: Albut35 on January 28, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: nwo504 on January 29, 2007, 12:30:00 AM
QUOTE(nwo504 @ Jan 28 2007, 11:58 PM)
toothpick trick worked for two weeks now its back to freezing i need to rty the heat gun tomorrow
update: i opened my 360 again and the toothpicks had broken. i put new ones on and its back alive. so its for sure that the gpu is the problem.
This post has been edited by nwo504: Jan 29 2007, 08:44 AM
Post by: kappiesjon on February 01, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
I've had the 0102 error for a couple of days and decided to look for some info on the net and found the heat gun fix! So i took the box apart and started heating it up. All went well untill i touched the GPU accidentally right after heating the GPU up!!! So it moved slightly and solder came out from underneath. Well.... i'm fucked i thought.
So i took a bit of the solder away and prayed to god to boot up my box normally. Of course god couldn't help me with this one and all i got were 3 red light and a 0003 code. Which i assume is a short circuit in the GPU, somewhere.
So..... can anyone help me out with this one? Can i take the GPU out if i heat it up and try and refit it somehow ? Or anything else i can do besides taking a big fat stone, tie it to my box and throwing it from a skyscraper.
Post by: Duckman2470 on February 03, 2007, 06:37:00 PM
To sum it up real quick, Do The Heat-Gun trick on the GPU only, replace the stock thremal compound with Antecs Formula 5 silver thermal compound and install a fan on the GPU heatsink or go water cooling and the 0102 is a thing of the past.
After extensive testing i repaird mine back in late NOV 06, stress tested for over 50hrs non-stop and its used everyday for hours on end. Its been flawless ever since. The link above includes alot of information, Pictures and videos.
peace
Post by: rollie on February 04, 2007, 01:23:00 PM
Question to duckman. After reading this from your youtube video post "Check your Video cables 1st, if everything turns out fine then this fix should work. The GPU provides the picture you see on the TV etc.. If just ONE connections is bad on the GPU it could cause no video but also not trigger a hardware fault 3-red lights."
Do you think my GPU is to blame for my three red lights and 0102 error. Before it happened I was getting some weird glitches. If the console had been on more than ten minutes and I turned it off then back on, I would get no display on the tv (sometime sound , others not) but the green leds would cycle ok. Also after about ten minutes If I changed from PAL 50 to PAL 60, or vice versa, the screen would go mental/ fuzzy/ jaggy ( my tv supports PAL 60). Yet if I changed them as soon as I turned the 360 on they would work.
I think I have no other option than to try your method, as my console has been opened to add different fans, and I have the three red lights constant know !!
Post by: HNer01 on February 05, 2007, 10:09:00 AM
When it comes to Disc read errors I hate to say it but the way that has never failed me is falshing the drive with Xtreme firmware 4.2 and up. It is a difficult process but when the drive stops reading it is usally because there has been a problem with the firmware in the DVD drive.
I had this problem with my XBox personaly of it overheating and fixed it by unscreweing the heatsinks and putting them back in place. The heatsinks can move around if the xbox has been dropped also very common from it just falling over. The fan not workign is also a common problem I have seen but if you notice this is why M$ has now come out with an external cooling fan for the system. I have recommended thsi to many people and it has worked for most. I have seen 1 or 2 cases of the over heating that could not be repaired and M$ sent them a NEW system.
Other causes that I have seen for the hard ware errors occuring have been from the Hard Drive itself. If your system has shut down before finishing saving a game or even if you have manually shut it off in the middle of an auto save in the game it is possible that the hard drive has become corrupt itself in which case you need to take it apart and hook it up to a sata port in your computer and reformat it with a 360 re-formatter that is availabel on a different site then this one. To determien if this is your problem just remove the hard drive and turn it on. if it works without the hard drive on it then you are probabley haveing this problem. This can bring up error codes from heating problems all the way to Unreadable disc errors.
Post by: mr2000jp on February 05, 2007, 02:42:00 PM
QUOTE(rsintx @ Mar 21 2006, 09:00 AM)
I got my first #4q ROL today(#74). It also gives the hardware failure code 1022. I changed out the av wires a number of times, and it didnt help. Any other ideas that may cause a 74 other them an av wire problem??
internal error , av related though
QUOTE(kappiesjon @ Feb 2 2007, 03:22 AM)
Ok here's my story on a 0102 error.
I've had the 0102 error for a couple of days and decided to look for some info on the net and found the heat gun fix! So i took the box apart and started heating it up. All went well untill i touched the GPU accidentally right after heating the GPU up!!! So it moved slightly and solder came out from underneath. Well.... i'm fucked i thought.
So i took a bit of the solder away and prayed to god to boot up my box normally. Of course god couldn't help me with this one and all i got were 3 red light and a 0003 code. Which i assume is a short circuit in the GPU, somewhere.
So..... can anyone help me out with this one? Can i take the GPU out if i heat it up and try and refit it somehow ? Or anything else i can do besides taking a big fat stone, tie it to my box and throwing it from a skyscraper.
yes , you have a short for sure , and hopefully nothing else is burnt too, if you could take out the chip and reinstalling it , this will fix the problem , but thats only possible by a very experienced technician,i remember doing that once in an xbox 1 but im not sure i could do that again
Post by: mygameswirelesscom on February 07, 2007, 07:37:00 PM
yes it is the cable from your drive
see and push the drive cable all the way
lots of time it get looss or come off bit than it will give the ....74
hop this help !!
p.s. hey let us know how the repair .. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: xlinkx on February 08, 2007, 12:53:00 AM
This post has been edited by xlinkx: Feb 8 2007, 08:54 AM
Post by: pimpmaul69 on February 08, 2007, 08:12:00 PM
Post by: PhillyFanRS on February 09, 2007, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: Shepdog on February 10, 2007, 12:04:00 PM
QUOTE(PhillyFanRS @ Feb 9 2007, 10:02 PM)
Duckman or whoever can answer this question would be greatly appreciated. Before you use the heatgun, do i clean the compound around the GPU and CPU because i saw your YouTube video and i wasn't sure if you cleaned around them. Please answer ASAP because i want to fix my 360 now, lol.
Clean off the thermal compound before heating the board then redo the compound after.
Post by: PhillyFanRS on February 10, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Shepdog @ Feb 10 2007, 08:11 PM)
Clean off the thermal compound before heating the board then redo the compound after.
So i do clean the compound around the GPU and CPU then i redo it with what compound?
Post by: marica81 on February 12, 2007, 04:47:00 PM
and get the code 0302 does anybody now what that is or why i get it
Post by: kpsmiley23 on February 12, 2007, 07:32:00 PM
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Post by: kpsmiley23 on February 12, 2007, 07:54:00 PM
Post by: PhillyFanRS on February 13, 2007, 07:07:00 AM
Post by: kpsmiley23 on February 13, 2007, 03:14:00 PM
Post by: zim6699 on February 13, 2007, 07:06:00 PM
i started going through the forums looking for an answer to this, if i missed, link it please. but what does that mean that my lights dont blink like everyone elses?
Post by: Drewjjb on February 14, 2007, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: i shot love on February 14, 2007, 07:45:00 PM
Post by: Shepdog on February 15, 2007, 04:20:00 PM
Post by: PhillyFanRS on February 16, 2007, 06:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Shepdog @ Feb 16 2007, 12:27 AM) 
After using the heatgun my 0102 became 0110. I used the heatgun again but this time I focused on the ram chips. Im just wating for it to cool right now. Any other ideas?
Did you get the 0110 when your hard drive was out? If you did, put it back in you will get the 0102 i think because that's what happened to me.
Post by: CZ Ford on February 17, 2007, 02:39:00 AM
Post by: kevcart3 on February 17, 2007, 03:58:00 AM
"0020 (Not yet known, possibly overheating)"
^ That's the error I'm getting, has anyone had any luck with resolving this problem that have had that error? Or is it still completely unknown on how to fix it or what is causing it???
If I bought my console at launch, and I had it replaced a couple months ago, am I totally out of luck on getting it replaced?
Post by: skit_ill on February 18, 2007, 04:29:00 PM
Post by: jc0v on February 18, 2007, 05:26:00 PM
Post by: fahrenheit on February 18, 2007, 06:58:00 PM
No idea what it is. I initially had 0102 and did the bolt trick and got 0020, so I took the GPU heatsink off, reapplied AS5 and remounted it and now have 0030. The '3' is upper left, upper right and lower right quadrants.
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 18, 2007, 09:01:00 PM
The past few days we were getting the dirty disc failure on Test Drive. After a couple of reboots, it would fire up and play fine, except for a few dropped frames now and then.
If MS will replace it I'll go that route since the case is intact. If they demand payment, then we will tell them where to stick it, and crack the box open.
I'm thinking that with all the poor solder connections causing problems, I may go the soldering pencil route with some fine wire wrapped around it for a micro tip, to touch up the connections. As opposed to exposing the components to the extreme temperature of the heat gun. Anyone have experience with that approach?
Post by: skit_ill on February 19, 2007, 12:51:00 AM
Post by: CZ Ford on February 19, 2007, 01:27:00 AM
Post by: PhillyFanRS on February 20, 2007, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: CZ Ford on February 20, 2007, 04:12:00 PM
QUOTE(PhillyFanRS @ Feb 20 2007, 02:15 PM)
Is doing the blanket trick dangerous?
Not sure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
All I know is that my box is still working.
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 20, 2007, 04:52:00 PM
Had the dreaded ROD and the 0020 error. System up and running fine now for about 2 hours after administering the Heat Gun solder re-flow technique.
Some of the problems I incurred and what I did to over come them:
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Arctic Silver....Not at Best Buy, RadioShack or CompUSA. Although they have similar compounds that will work I'm sure, I had to go to an independent computer store to purchase the Arctic Silver. That took a few hours of roaming around Greenville, SC. Cost was $12.00 for a very small syringe. Not to worry, it doesn't look like much material, but if you apply it correctly, you will have about $11.75 worth left over! See their site arcticsilver5.com for cleaning and application instructions. I used CVS 91% Isopropyl Alcohol, jewelers screwdriver and a single edge razor blade to remove the old heat sink material. Razor blade worked great for applying the thin film of Arctic Silver upon completion.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Use the youtube video technique to heat the board. I used a heat gun that I have for applying Monokote material to RC airplanes. I tested it on a piece of rosin core solder and it melted it fine. (I don't believe a hair dryer will work as it doesn't get hot enough) A total of 4 minutes of heat was applied. Rotating every 30 seconds from the top of the board and then to the bottom. Keep the nozzle moving the air around the CPU and GPU areas smoothly for even heat application.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) I won't list them here, but while getting the Xbox 360 apart I did invent a few new four letter words. My advice here is PATIENCE. Take your time, you can do it. Micro$oft designed this to defeat you! Look at it as a game, take your time, cause the case clips will drive you nuts but you can beat this challenge! This is where the jewelers screwdriver set works great for getting into all those small holes to release the clips. To see a very good article with pictures on getting the box apart visit: http://www.anandtech.com/systems/showdoc.aspx?i=2610
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) The site does a very good job of showing what must be done. To remove the faceplate I used the coin method. Worked like a charm. Looking at the unit from the front, the right side cover came off very easily. But the left side cover, where the hard drive mounts, is a little different. To get the two forward clips loose on the left side cover you can use the jewelers screwdriver by going into the slots where the hard drive latches engage.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I used the jewelers to remove the heat sink clips from the bottom. Once you get two sections loose, it's a piece of cake. It will also take a lot of pressure to reinstall these when you are doing the re-assembly.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) My wife cleaned the dust from all the plastic and chassis parts. Windex worked great. I popped the fan assembly out and she cleaned it with Q-tips. I vacuumed the heat sinks out with the brush attachment. None of them were that dirty, but we know that we need all the airflow we can get, and with it all apart this was the opportune time. (Cause I just knew it was going to work when we got it fixed!)
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Some true happiness was in putting it back together. With the exception of getting the heat sink clamps back on, the rest is literally a snap. All those case clips that kept wanting to get back together while you're taking it apart have not lost their desire to be mated. Snap right back where they belong.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Altogether it took about 3 hours of actual labor. So, after costs, I figure I was paid about $40 per hour as opposed to having sent it back to Micro$oft. Not bad for a guy that's retired.
To all those that have posted here providing ideas and encouragement, bless you!
To anyone that has a question of someone that has been there and done it, ask away. I'll be glad to help if I can.
Some other things I intend to do and you may too. Letters to the FTC, BBB, my state attorney, and my US congressmen. I think that this is a serious manufacturing defect and Micro$oft should be required to initiate a recall. And yes, for us that have defeated the void tapes to correct their manufacturing blunder, to be included.
Rod (No, that's not the Ring of Death, my name is Rod!)
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 20, 2007, 11:32:00 PM
Stopped by and looked at the games and the wife asked me to look down at the demo 360 in the show case.
Yup, you guessed it. Flashing the dreaded Ring of Death! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
But Micro$oft doesn't have a problem!! RIGHT!
I had another thought too. In addition to the contacts I promised to make in my previous post, our local TV station has a "Buyer Beware" segment. As I have been interviewed by this newscaster once before, I think I'll rattle his cage a little too and see what happens.
If everyone makes some noise we may just get heard. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
Rod
Post by: devilspy on February 21, 2007, 03:29:00 AM
QUOTE(SMSgtRod @ Feb 21 2007, 01:03 AM)
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If everyone makes some noise we may just get heard. Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease!
Rod
Or Shot by The Microsoft Mafia (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Just kidding
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 21, 2007, 04:43:00 AM
QUOTE(devilspy @ Feb 21 2007, 05:00 AM)
Actually the Micro$oft corrective action to the squeaky wheel problem would be to "remove the wheel"!
Rod
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 21, 2007, 05:00:00 AM
Some more things I gleaned from the WEB. Microsoft feels that as long as their failure rate stays 3 to 5% that it is acceptable. Hmmmm...let's look at this from a statistical point using their worst case of 5% failure rate because the number is a little easier to work with.
For $1 I can enter the Powerball and have a 1 in 146 million chance of winning. Not good. But Microsoft can improve the odds for me. For $400 I can buy an Xbox 360 and have a 1 in 20 chance of getting a bad machine. Gee, that's better! Why am I not happy.
How about one more. Atlanta Hartsfield airport had nearly 1 million combined takeoffs and landings for the year of 2006. According to Microsoft's thinking 50,000 of those could have crashed and that's entirely acceptable.
Rod
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 21, 2007, 05:49:00 AM
For only three payments of $39.99 and $14.99 (US) shipping and handling you can get a genuine Micro$oft Red Hot Heat Gun. It has a Laser Sight for targeting the heat and plugs into your USB port. Comes with a 30 day warranty that starts the day your order is placed and you can expect delivery in 8 to 10 weeks. For an additional $49.99 a one year warranty is available. This is not for a new replacement. Exchanged units may be labeled Zippo.
Post by: devilspy on February 21, 2007, 07:55:00 AM
QUOTE(SMSgtRod @ Feb 21 2007, 06:31 AM)
Follows below is a portion of the email I sent to the Buyer Beware reporter at our local TV station.
Some more things I gleaned from the WEB. Microsoft feels that as long as their failure rate stays 3 to 5% that it is acceptable. Hmmmm...let's look at this from a statistical point using their worst case of 5% failure rate because the number is a little easier to work with.
For $1 I can enter the Powerball and have a 1 in 146 million chance of winning. Not good. But Microsoft can improve the odds for me. For $400 I can buy an Xbox 360 and have a 1 in 20 chance of getting a bad machine. Gee, that's better! Why am I not happy.
How about one more. Atlanta Hartsfield airport had nearly 1 million combined takeoffs and landings for the year of 2006. According to Microsoft's thinking 50,000 of those could have crashed and that's entirely acceptable.
Rod
Unfortunately you may be wasting your time. MicroSoft is a huge corporate sponsor. Unless they are an independently owned News station affiliate, it won't get much mention. Did you ever hear about the Monsanto corporation and the news story about a local fox station did about the effect of the growth hormone, long story short, they got fired and the segment never aired again. (http://www.projectcensored.org/publications/2005/11.html) google around you will find the actual video report court cases etc..
Granted this has less to do with health or underlaying safety of jets that puts lives at risk..
On a plus note BBC Watchdog did do a report on MS in the UK.
Now what you should do is check sites out like digg.com, do some viral marketing..and netscapes rip off version of the site. That would get the attention of the masses.
Put xbox logo and and bomb picture on it , with some graphical artifacts coming out of the bomb .(photoshop/flash skills anyone)...or a balooned up xbox about to burst with streams of graphical glitches followed by 3red light? A flash animation would be good.
Although be careful on the viral marketing to avoid another Boston hoax (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Now back to error codes..how to repair 0003 anyone?
Post by: CZ Ford on February 21, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Hi all, I was one of the many people on here that got the three rings of death. So... I called Microsoft and they informed me that THEY EXTENDED THEIR WARRANTY TO ONE YEAR AFTER PURCHASE. I just spoke to them and they are going to repair my box for free. Thought that might be some useful info. and hopefully no one cracked their boxes open if they didn't have to. I'm glad I didn't. Good luck everyone.
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 21, 2007, 09:12:00 PM
QUOTE(CZ Ford @ Feb 21 2007, 03:17 PM)
*****************ATTENTION PLEASE READ*******************************
Hi all, I was one of the many people on here that got the three rings of death. So... I called Microsoft and they informed me that THEY EXTENDED THEIR WARRANTY TO ONE YEAR AFTER PURCHASE. I just spoke to them and they are going to repair my box for free. Thought that might be some useful info. and hopefully no one cracked their boxes open if they didn't have to. I'm glad I didn't. Good luck everyone.
And I wish you luck also. Not to put a damper on things but I do have a theory. My warranty expired January 16, 2007 and the unit failed February 18, 2007. I fixed it with the heat gun cure that reconnects the cold solder joints on the board. Some folks have fixed their's by giving it several good wacks, and this is where my theory comes in. If the unit is under warranty, and has the cold solder connection problem, it will get bumped around pretty good on it's way to the repair center. They get it, power it up, and it works just fine. Since they have shipped out a replacement to the customer, this one goes on the refurbished shelf as serviceable, soon to go to some other unlucky sole. This is why some folks have had up to 5 units shuffled back and forth with the repair center.
I know we all wish you luck, but I don't think anyone on this forum will be suprised if you have another problem.
Post by: skit_ill on February 23, 2007, 06:41:00 AM
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 23, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
QUOTE(skit_ill @ Feb 23 2007, 08:12 AM)
Well, after the heat gun fix, all was well for about 2 days. I started my 360 up cold and threw in a DVD, and before i could even hit play, it froze with the "graphics errors" (lines in the screen and whatnot). I just gave up at that point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) . Anyway, I can;t even begin to imagine why my 360 did this when it was COLD still (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif) . Same 0102 error code as before. After venting for about 2 more days, I decided that if the heat gun fix worked once.... why not twice? So I did it. And, everything is fine again. Buit for how long? Maybe I'm an idiot.... or maybe my 360 just doesn't love me anymore. Is it possible that I didnt heat the board well enough the first time? Any suggestions as to why the fix might have failed? It's not like I have time to play it for any serious period of time -- maybe 4 hours in a sitting MAX. Someone, please get back to me with some thoughts and theories as to why the fix might have failed. All is greatly appreciated.
Per my previous posts, I have done the Heat Gun and I am on day 6 of our machine running just fine. Only problem we have is the "insert a disc" error on occasions, but it did that from the day we bought it.
You must remember that when they wave solder the boards, it is molten metal flowing, so to re-flow the solder on the board the gun has got to get it HOT. But you don't want to "smoke" it. I did the gun for a total of 4 minutes, alternating from the top and bottom every 30 seconds. Waving the air flow back and forth from the CPU to the GPU.
Where on Oki are you. I spent much time at Kadena and my son is doing a tour there now.
Post by: Slimetime on February 24, 2007, 01:25:00 AM
This post has been edited by Slimetime: Feb 24 2007, 09:44 AM
Post by: rastaman108037 on February 24, 2007, 09:38:00 PM
Now i'll go and tell you guys what has happened so far between me and my xbox 360
first i bought the thing today at about 1:30 for 100 bucks, knowing that it was broke.
next i took it home, noted it had the three rings of death and found out the secondary code, in this case it was 0102 - general hardware failure.
I went and did the heat up the chips thing and then found an error code of 0022 - gpu failure, which i know was not due to overheating. I know everyone will probably say "im not supposed to do this" but after i found this issue i put the whole thing in the freezer and then immediately hooked it up and still got the same error, thus this indicates it is not an overheat if everything is still pretty cold. (also putting it in the freezer is not especially terrible for computer components, it usually allows me to bring hard drives back to life long enough to pull data). this opinion usually differs from person to person though.
i then redid the heat up the chips tutorial, but found that i had lost track of time and was probably on high heat for about 7 minutes...
i then got an error code of 0003, which isnt yet described. I can conclude however that it is probably the equivalent of "your xbox is f***ed" or that the cpu isn't responding. this happens instantly on startup, im almost completely sure it's a cpu error because it sounds like it tries to start and just doesn't. I left the heatsink on the cpu (like a retard) because i wasn't directly applying heat to the cpu...little did i know it pretty much collects heat and gets pretty hot anyway, and stays hot. So i probably burned out the cpu.
either way i can still sell it on ebay and make a profit. it came with all the cables...
any help in getting this (probably fried) hunk of junk working again would be greatly appreciated...
This post has been edited by rastaman108037: Feb 25 2007, 05:46 AM
Post by: rastaman108037 on February 24, 2007, 10:32:00 PM
Post by: rootz on February 26, 2007, 10:49:00 AM
Here's my weird story, I'll try describe the error if the helps anyone who are doing research on these error codes.
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My 360 is a core version with an added hdd.
(BTW, this is a refurbished console I got from xbox repair center. My first one died after a month from launch.)
Sometimes I'm getting three red lights. When I check with sync button + eject, I get error 0021.
I have NOT modified my 360's DVD firmware. I haven't even opened the case. It is still under warranty. I'm posting this let people know that 0021 isn't caused my modifying your dvd firmware. It might have something to do with south bridge, I don't know, I am not a tech expert.
The funny thing about this error is though, that for the most part my 360 works fine. I've gotten this error a couple of times during the last few months. Last friday, however, I thought the console was done for. I kept on rebooting it and it wouldn't start. When I finally got it to work (after like 20 times power off/power on) I started to play Crackdown. It worked for like three minutes and then the whole system hang. So I let it be for a few hours. Then I came back and again red lights for a few time, then it worked. I was able to play for about an hour and then it hang again. The screen just froze, sound stopped and nothing happened. I was like f* it, I was gonna call customer support monday.
Then saturday morning the box gave red lights (still error 0021) a few times and after that it has worked like a charm. No errors for two days.
Very weird, maybe there's some bad soldering there that causes this. My xbox has done this already a few times, sometimes it seems that it decides "I'm not on the mood today and today I will give the user three red lights". Then later, it works like a charm.
I will send it to customer support soon. It's just weird that for most of the time, it works brilliantly.
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Hope this helps even a little in finding out more about error 0021. If you need additional information I can give you without opening my console, please ask and I will answer.
Post by: SMSgtRod on February 26, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
If you want to help all concerned, fire off an email to the BBB, we need to have a great number of complaints so they can see the magnitude of this problem.
If you enter the National BBB site you will be re-directed to the local BBB for MS. Use the MS Headquarters for the complaint to be filed against.
Now it's time for you to file your complaint and let's load them up.
Post by: Grim187 on February 28, 2007, 12:56:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 27 2006, 11:31 AM)
1023 (not yet known)
DVD Drive Not Connected, Connect Drive to Boot
I got in a console the other day (brand new) and when i try to boot it without the power cable connected to the drive i get 1 red light and 1023
Update: This one is Really Weird, I'm thinking it has something to do with either CPU or Power, today i tested it a little bit more and now it will work when the drive isn't plugged in and wont when it is
Update2: I'm pretty sure its the ana chip, after getting the error 3 boots in a row (drive connected and not) i reworked (from underneath) the ana chip and it seems to work fine now...but for how long?
Update3: Ive had it on for about an hour and a half now and have rebooted it 3x still no error, will run it for longer tomorrow
Update4: I Have been testing it for a good 5 days now and its still working, This Error code is most likely an onscreen but since it didn't output any video i wasn't able to tell what code it was
This post has been edited by Grim187: Mar 5 2007, 02:13 AM
Post by: Slimetime on March 01, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
Post by: Grim187 on March 01, 2007, 08:23:00 PM
QUOTE(Slimetime @ Mar 1 2007, 11:20 AM)
Ive been getting 3 red lights and the 1023 code. Wrapping it in the blanket allows it to boot. But games freeze soon after. Would the error code mean the same thing with just 1 light on compared to 3?
i have no clue i dident even know you could get the same error code from different # of red lights
Post by: Slimetime on March 02, 2007, 01:01:00 AM
Post by: Grim187 on March 02, 2007, 01:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Slimetime @ Mar 1 2007, 11:32 PM)
oi Im sorry after calming down abit. I redid the code it was the 0102 error. Sorry for the trouble. will make sure to check my problems more throughly before posting again.
its cool, if you read back its happened to me a couple times before, its just the anger of having it not work and the panic of thinking it wont work again mixed with the frustration of trying to get it to work, it gets to you i know
Post by: Slimetime on March 02, 2007, 04:44:00 PM
Post by: phr0zen2 on March 03, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
Post by: skiddd on March 03, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
My other 360 is still dead even after a BGA reball now using LEAD balls.
The error code is 0102. I remove the CPU by myself and switched the unit
ON. The error changed to 0003, so I think 0003 is CPU related.
I hope you can add this to the list.
B/.R
Post by: Slimetime on March 03, 2007, 05:32:00 PM
Post by: Grim187 on March 04, 2007, 06:10:00 PM
QUOTE(phr0zen2 @ Mar 3 2007, 10:13 AM)
I have just turned on my xbox 360 and yes got the dredded red lights (3 of them), I also have the error code 1023 but is very little info on it compared to other codes, anyone please help?
you mean 0102 right?, because 1023 is 1 red light most likly E74 or another onscreen, the only reason why i wasent able to see the onscreen is because it wasent outputing video
QUOTE(Slimetime @ Mar 2 2007, 03:15 PM)
well considering Im pretty much screwed with this system. Which is modded. Would I be able to get a core and just add on the hd and switch the dvd drive to to the new one? Because I can get it to actually boot and play dvds with the blanket trick but anytime a game actually does decide to boot it freezes and gives the lights again.I can take the system apart with no prob but I have no idea how to use a heat gun right or anything.
actualy you can just get another motherboard and flash your drive with the key from it and you should be good
QUOTE(skiddd @ Mar 3 2007, 11:20 AM)
Hi,
My other 360 is still dead even after a BGA reball now using LEAD balls.
The error code is 0102. I remove the CPU by myself and switched the unit
ON. The error changed to 0003, so I think 0003 is CPU related.
I hope you can add this to the list.
B/.R
0003 is power related just like all the other errors that start with 000
0003 has something to do with the power going ether to the CPU or the gpu, I'm sure you can replicate these conditions by messing around with all the resistors and capacitors under either the CPU or gpu
Post by: phr0zen2 on March 05, 2007, 08:29:00 AM
QUOTE(Grim187 @ Mar 5 2007, 12:41 AM)
you mean 0102 right?, because 1023 is 1 red light most likly E74 or another onscreen, the only reason why i wasent able to see the onscreen is because it wasent outputing video
Yeh, your right mine is 0102, I read the code wrong.
Post by: Slimetime on March 05, 2007, 10:35:00 PM
Post by: shawnbowski on March 06, 2007, 07:21:00 AM
Post by: Wesley Thomas on March 06, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
Post by: emi_fer on March 07, 2007, 11:17:00 PM
Whats worse... i live in south america theres no 1 400 my xbox (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) theres no support here..........!!!!!!
what can i do?
can someone help me?
xbox 360 2006-06-08 MD problem error 0103
thanks in advance
Post by: C.K on March 09, 2007, 06:06:00 PM
- Hardware Failure
E76: (not yet known)
- I fixed E76 by loosening up mobo and case screws, not sure which yet as for I still have to tighten them back up. But I dont see how this caused the error?
-Adam
Post by: Slimetime on March 09, 2007, 10:53:00 PM
Post by: Lord Magnus on March 10, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
I had error 0102, the 3 flashing lights o' doom and fixed it with the heat gun trick. I wrapped everything else in aluminum foil to avoid blowing up capacitors or melting plastic pieces. Except the GPU and CPU and immediate area around them.
Blew hot air with the gun in low (600 F) for about 5 minutes (2.5 minutes per side all together intercalating up and down of the mobo) and then I set it up on high (1000 F) and blew hot air directly above and below these mentioned component chips in very fast circular motion ALWAYS. I then let it sit for 40 minutes without even breathing close to it and redid the thermal compund with ArcticSilver 5 once the 40 minutes were up, right before connecting it.
I put the board back in the casing with just a few screws, connected the fans, DVD unit, and RF board back but when I plugged it just to check, I had quadrans 3 and 4 flashing. I wished really badly that it was a grounding problem, put it back together like it should go, and plugged it again.... IT WAS BACK TO LIFE !!
Be careful when you're doing this trick, don't over do it. Just follow directions and you'll get it back on.
Good luck my friends.
This post has been edited by Lord Magnus: Mar 10 2007, 07:06 PM
Post by: BioFUSION on March 11, 2007, 12:05:00 AM
Post by: Slimetime on March 11, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: PhillyFanRS on March 11, 2007, 04:45:00 PM
Post by: BioFUSION on March 11, 2007, 10:54:00 PM
Post by: discosadness on March 13, 2007, 02:50:00 AM
i've had a modded xbox for the last ~4 years. never any problems. still works perfectly. went out today and bought an xbox 360 with some bday money. started up fine at first, gamed for a good hour or so. went downstairs to eat a bit, come back up and it's frozen. now it will turn on every ~10th time, otherwise it gives me an E71 or an E79. I just bought this thing today!!!! What kind of crap is microsoft selling these days? Jesus.
Post by: SMSgtRod on March 14, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
Post by: SMSgtRod on March 14, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
QUOTE(BioFUSION @ Mar 11 2007, 11:25 PM)
Guess you cant edit your posts here, sorry about that, I did miss that tidbit.... But its unknown, so Im still SOL. Out of frustration I gave the box a good hit and it came back on, shut it down to re-attach the HD, and went back to the lights... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) I hate MS for there shitty workmanship and myself for not getting the warranty.
The Heat Gun Treatment should fix your machine. I've had the same problem twice and it got us going.
Post by: Shaminoh on March 15, 2007, 08:50:00 PM
I stubled apon a workaround for mine .
(1) with the xbox powered of push the little white button and hold it down.
(2) Now while holding it down push the power button.
(3) Hopefully you should no longer have the ring of death.
Now a note here when i did this my system ran normal for about 1 minute than froze. I reset tried again and it ran for about 10 minutes this time. Then the third time it is still running and i played def jam icon & Graw 2 almost 14 hours straight. She still runs.
This leads me to believe that when installing the patch so i could play the new def jam icon game, that somewhere when the patch was being installed it became corupted and was being held in memory somehow. Somehow but holding the white button while powering on it manageged to clear it out...... Idunno I may be wrong thats just what i think but either way im not happy with microsoft telling me it would cost $168 to repair when it is most definantly asoftware issue. But my xbox works again so im semi happy.
please everyone getting error code 0102(4lights 1light 4lights 2lights) try this it cant hurt.
and please spread it around if it helps anyone else at least we are making progress for everyone else that has a good workout weight instead of a xbox360.
Post by: dragon1234 on March 16, 2007, 06:22:00 AM
And... it worked. The 0102 code is gone for now. I am now in the process of making my xbox cooler with all the other mods in the forum.
I also read about clamping the heatsinks without using the x bracket at the back but screws directly from the metal shield to the heatsink, creating a more uniform clamping force and without warping the main board when everything heats up.
How many of you did perform that mod? I have the toothpicks in place right now, but this is hardly high tech nor a durable setup in my books.
I would like to hear from you on that subject.
Post by: SMSgtRod on March 24, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
(IMG:http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w9/SMSgtRod/xbox360closeup.jpg)
This photo is a 60X shot of a section of the motherboard. The sign of a good solder joint is that it is, Bright & Shiney, Smooth, and that the copper pad is fully tinned with the solder. Dull and lumpy means it is a cold solder joint and a very poor connection. Not having the pad fully covered with the solder can permit some corrosion to form.
You be the judge, but I think it fails miserably.
The company that I recently retired from builds industial computers for industry and the military. The above would have been rejected in a heart beat. How would you like that kind of work on the aircraft flight director system the next time you travel! Oh, you don't fly, well remember, you want them to go over your house, not through it.
Post by: Taher on March 24, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
now, when I push GPU heatsink or 2 Ram chips on top of the board, system is boot-up properly and when I release pressure on chips , it's freeze !
I think this 0101 and 0103 has something to do with GPU or RAM.
Thanks
Post by: Dionm on March 24, 2007, 11:14:00 PM
and it froze during a two player vs each other now all I get is the red rings of death I haven't contacted MS
Yet but this error seems to be A biggie so I will do so in a couple of days thanks for the forum guys
Post by: thefunkygibbon on March 25, 2007, 01:35:00 PM
Post by: CunningLinguist on March 25, 2007, 01:54:00 PM
Initially the screen would freeze up and become pixelated, like a 'chessboard' or 'rain'. Soon afterwards I developed the 3 red lights. My box has a manufacture date of November 2005 and had worked fine up until now.
I didn't fancy forking out £80 to M$ so I read through this forum. Initially I used a hairdryer as I didn't have a heatgun at hand. My box went from not booting to working for a few hours until it crashed again.
Now I have used the heatgun trick, applied Arctic Silver 5 on the GPU and CPU and added an internal fan. I have played pretty much non stop for the past two days and fingers crossed the problem is solved.
I have to say, the information and guides provided here have been excellent and are greatly appreciated. On a side note, I have noticed many Novemeber 2005 boxes going the way of the dodo recently, anyone else?
Post by: Juise on March 30, 2007, 01:42:00 AM
I bought the 360 Jan 29th 06 as a B-day present for my girl (shes a gamer so it went over well). She never really had a problem with it, it would easily do 6-12 hours of gaming without a problem. On Feb 13th the unit locked up playing GoW, I reset it and it would lock up with graphic artifacts during the boot logo. Called MS, they knew it was out of warranty by only 15 days and refused to waive the repair fee. So I told them to STFU. I took it apart and replaced the thermal crap with some Arctic Silver 5. Put it back together and we were good for about a month (I'm guessing I got lucky and removing the board might have made it flex enough to get whatever poor solder joints I had to connect. Then the AS5 helped keep it cooler then it had been.) When moving the unit from the basement to the upstairs I got the 3 RLoD! Error 0102. So I went out and picked up a heat gun and followed the video instructions. We have been working for a day now and I'm pretty sure the AS5 and the heat gun fix will keep me good for at least another year.
I cut the GPU heat sink to add some Zalman heat sinks to the ram on the top half of the board. I put a set of the elastomer pads (from a newer completely dead 360) that MS added in the newer 360s on the bottom ram chips. Also when removing the thermal crap M$ had on there I used Goo-Gone with a toothbrush to make sure everything surrounding the chip die was completely clean.
The unit has been vertical for about the first 60% of its life, and horizontal for the later 40%. When the unit was vertical it was in a poorly ventilated entertainment center. It's in a completely open shelf (No back or sides, its a glass shelf supported by 3 metal rods.) when horizontal.
Does anyone know the CFM of the stock fans in the 360? I would like to replace the stock fans with the whisper fans if it can actually be proven that they really do have a higher CFM. I feel that would be a wise decision on my part since I have reduced the surface area of the GPU heat sink.
I hope some of this helps someone to fix their bricked 360.
On a side note, a friend who has error 0022 tried the heat gun trick and it did not work for him.
This post has been edited by Juise: Mar 30 2007, 08:46 AM
Post by: armijn on April 01, 2007, 02:32:00 AM
Post by: JagStone on April 02, 2007, 12:07:00 AM
Fixed a 360 last night. When it reached me it didn't boot at all, just giving 0022 (GPU error). Took it out of the case, it started giving 1033 (unknown). Got it to boot by holding Connect
down and powering it off, then left it for 5 mins and it was back to 0110 (memory error/overheating). Took it all apart, removed heatsinks and thermal goo and attacked it with my mate's hot-air rework station (affectionately known as the Death Ray): reflowed the GPU and memory, put the heatsinks back on with some Arctic Silver and it booted first, second, third and fourth times. Needs soak-testing but I'm pretty sure it's fixed now.
So, 0020 and 0110 can be fixed by reflowing the GPU and memory, respectively. My guess is that 1033 is something else that lost contact when I flexed the board removing it...southbridge maybe?
This thread is very helpful (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Cheers for sharing, all!
Stone
Post by: twistedsymphony on April 03, 2007, 01:32:00 PM
More updates coming soon I have a backlog of tips in my PM box.
Post by: FarCue on April 04, 2007, 06:38:00 AM
1) the central symbol on the power button lights up (normal yellowish green color)
2) the 4 surrounding rings that used to always swirl around no long do so
3) No image nor sound is present. I've tripled checked and confirmed that the av cables are properly plugged in
4) The disc drive is still ejectable (putting a disc in has no effect)
5) Pressing the tiny white button used to interface with the wirless controller is a fruitless affair (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
Post by: mingwingming on April 04, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
I had a E79 Error which also had 3 Red lights on boot !?.. This error is down as Harddrive problem well i tried various things, swapping drives, memory cards, general fiddling and nothing would help.
The last resort was to try the Heatgun method , this has fixed the problem.. Hope this helps someone
Post by: JagStone on April 05, 2007, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(FarCue @ Apr 4 2007, 01:45 PM)
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
Try powering off and rebooting several times, if it's crashing on boot then hopefully you'll get a 3-red code doing this. One I have crashes booting sometimes, if you power it off and straight back on then it fails the startup checks and gives you the red lights.
Trying to fix an 0102 at the moment, got it all reflowed and but only gives 0110...tried redoing the thermal paste twice (started off with generic no-brand, tried reapplying in a thicker layer as it looked a bit patchy, then replaced with Arctic Silver 5) and nothing's made any difference. All the heatsink screws are tight (one of them was stripped so I Dremeled across the head and used a slot-head driver to get it nice and tight) and the clips are holding OK. Haven't got any shim material handy at the moment, is that worth a shot though?
Stone
Post by: FarCue on April 06, 2007, 02:45:00 AM
QUOTE(JagStone @ Apr 5 2007, 06:04 PM)
Try powering off and rebooting several times, if it's crashing on boot then hopefully you'll get a 3-red code doing this. One I have crashes booting sometimes, if you power it off and straight back on then it fails the startup checks and gives you the red lights.
Trying to fix an 0102 at the moment, got it all reflowed and but only gives 0110...tried redoing the thermal paste twice (started off with generic no-brand, tried reapplying in a thicker layer as it looked a bit patchy, then replaced with Arctic Silver 5) and nothing's made any difference. All the heatsink screws are tight (one of them was stripped so I Dremeled across the head and used a slot-head driver to get it nice and tight) and the clips are holding OK. Haven't got any shim material handy at the moment, is that worth a shot though?
Stone
I've tried powering off and rebooting it several times, but the same thing happens - no 3 red code, just the central symbol being lit up
Post by: numlockhome on April 06, 2007, 09:55:00 AM
E76 is network error related.
if the trace that you connect point Y on MNE chips is distrupted to the microprocessor
the machine will report error E76 this was discovered by misstake during a routine machine repair.
thanks too www.playforce.se technical dep for the info.
Post by: Console_God on April 07, 2007, 10:57:00 AM
QUOTE(111111 @ Jul 11 2006, 07:59 PM)
Hi when i turn on my xbox 360 the led 1 and 3 turns on and it turns loud. I have the error code 0011.
i think i made a wire touch these two places when it was on.
(IMG:http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1079/xb3607br.jpg)
Your Xbox 360 is overheating. Leave it off and take out the plug. Then leave it for a few hours. Then reconnect the plug and turn the console back on and it should be fine.
I'm new to this website, so don't give me too much hassle.
Post by: buuZERO on April 09, 2007, 09:10:00 AM
Love the system, but this is ridiculous. I had one of the first original Xbox models, which I have modded and had to open many times, and it's still running fine today 4+ years later.
Anyway, I guess I'm lucky to still be under the 1 year warranty, sorry for you all whose broke a bit after the first year (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) .
Hope I have better luck with the new one they send...
Post by: JediMasterChad on April 09, 2007, 10:51:00 AM
I've had my 360 since launch day, November whatever 2005, and within the last couple weeks it finally bricked on me (and right before Guitar Hero). So, I called MS and they said I'm out of warranty and I wanted to try and fix it on my own as I don't have the 130 bucks to pay them.
Mine won't even boot to the dashboard, and when I try to get the error code it seems to come out as "0203" which isn't even listed on the first page. It blinks 4, then 2, then 4, then 3. So I know I'm doing it right, but no idea what is wrong. I have done the towel trick, and that will fix it for a few days but then it goes back to the blinking red. Removing my hard drive does nothing, and when it boots properly, none of my data is corrupt, my gamercard loads fine, it still saves everything, etc.
I've noticed that the DVD drive is what makes a majority of the noise while the console is on. If I'm just tinkering around in the dashboard or listening to music I have on my hard drive, it's very quiet, but if I'm playing a game, the drive is quite loud. Almost like it is spinning too fast or working too hard, I'm not sure.
So, any ideas? I'm going to crack it open if that's what it takes, as it won't even start up..but I'm not sure what fix to even start with.
Post by: rootz on April 10, 2007, 07:51:00 AM
First I got 0021 occasionally but the console worked usually with a few restarts. Then later it turned to give me constantly 0102.
Then I did the famous towel trick, first it gave me 0022 which is the GPU overheating; then I let it cool down for a few moments and it actually worked for a few hours after the towel trick (cold solder, I'm sure) but for not too long; during gameplay the console hang: the screen jammed and gave those already well-known gpu-error boxes in the screen. Then I shut it down and it gave again 0102. This was two days ago.
Today I turned it on; it worked and I started to download content from the marketplace. It hang again after a few minutes; the same gpu-error as described above. Then I turned it off and on again. It gave 0020 - what is this? It can't be overheating because the console was on only for a few minutes (like less than five). After a restart it now gives me again the good ol' 0102.
And yes, I've already called support and the repair process has been started so the console will go to repair in less than a week, I just wanted to post this ridiculous story of multiple error codes. :-)
Post by: sandmanza on April 10, 2007, 10:12:00 AM
A) the red lights of doom
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) freezing about 5 mins into game
C) working 100% for however long the 360 is on.
I had it plugged into same multiplug as my pc and I had a power failure, my pc power supply started acting up (wouldnt switch on everytime) and I know 0102 isnt a power supply error but is it possible that it could be ?
Post by: KennethKaniff308 on April 11, 2007, 08:33:00 AM
I recently had my xbox start giving me the dreaded 0102 code and was dumbfounded by its sudden appearance . Looking all over the net for reasons why I came here. I heard about the "towel trick" and doubted this would work. Deciding "what the hell, I'll try anything as I'm out of warranty" I "put her in the oven" so to speak. After removing towel I powered on and it worked temporarily. This led me to believe there was a cold solder joint on the gpu as has been talked about in several forums I've visited. BTW......I would not recommend towel trick to anyone as has been said before that the heat is horrible for your components. I proceeded to disassemble and remove gpu heatsink. After that I removed mounting bolts from heatsink. Then I used a steel razor blade(there are way better ways to do this I'm sure, I was in hurry and don't recommend this) and shaved the aluminum down slightly around holes in heatsink. This was done so I could screw the mounting bolts into the heatsink itself farther than they were originally. Also, I took the x-clamp and bent it slightly outwards(very carefully) so as to put more pressure on heatsink when reinstalled. Had to have help from a buddy putting back on as it took a lot of force to get back on. Put 360 back together and proceeded to boot. Dashboard loaded first time I booted(it had been to the point it wouldn't display anything before fix) and I proceeded to play 6 titles for at least an hour a piece. Hasn't froze one time since and all my backups play flawlessly also.
P.S. It's true, Microsoft doesn't give a crap about you if you've opened your console. Kid on phone at service number literally told me they wouldn't even repair a console if I PAID for any repair needed(I wasn't asking for warranty service, just repair service). He said(and I qoute) "You're screwed and we won't do anything to help you make your console work because you've opened it. Great business practices eh? Telling the consumer that they can't PAY for their console to be repaired under any circumstance because case was opened. Glad I didn't pay now..............
Forgot to mention in last post that I very, very, very carefully cleaned old thermal paste(which there was way to much in the first place) off of the gpu and heatsink and applied Arctic Silver 5 before reinstalling gpu heatsink. This all might sound a little complicated to some, but if you take your time and be careful you will be ok. My warranty was up so I was left with little other choice than to try to fix my brick myself.
Post by: rebuad_neb2004 on April 12, 2007, 02:16:00 AM
Most of these codes are overheating codes but it makes me wonder about what caused it, "besides me going in and messing around". I have concluded that while the console is warm the resisters that are not securely soldered to the board will break there connection. Then they will act like a wrench in the gear... They may not cause a problem immediately but they will in fact be the force behind the death of a console. When I get my own XBOX I will ride the warranty and the day after it expires I will crack my case and rework any of those resisters that look like the could be a problem. I will then mod the heat sinks so as to keep it cool. I hope that my adventure helps in some way...
P.S. If anyone has any suggestions on how I should put what little of the XBOX is left to good use with testing or reading chips and knows how to do it, I will gladly give my time and try!
Post by: tarrbot on April 12, 2007, 06:24:00 AM
QUOTE
I have the most odd 0102, one of the 3 things will happen
A) the red lights of doom
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) freezing about 5 mins into game
C) working 100% for however long the 360 is on.
I had it plugged into same multiplug as my pc and I had a power failure, my pc power supply started acting up (wouldnt switch on everytime) and I know 0102 isnt a power supply error but is it possible that it could be ?
A) the red lights of doom
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) freezing about 5 mins into game
C) working 100% for however long the 360 is on.
I had it plugged into same multiplug as my pc and I had a power failure, my pc power supply started acting up (wouldnt switch on everytime) and I know 0102 isnt a power supply error but is it possible that it could be ?
I think I know what's happening but am not sure. If you can verify what I'm saying is accurate, that'd be great.
OK, first off, I bought a "broken" 360 with the intent on fixing its problem. It was a 0102 error and I applied the heat gun trick to it and all seemed fine.
Mine would play for hours after the fix with no issues, unless I played a heavy GPU intensive game. Then it would play for about 5 minutes and freeze. I was all set to redo the heat gun trick thinking I was too conservative in its application that it might not have worked flawlessly.
What I discovered upon taking the 360 back apart was that I had not applied thermal compound to one portion of the GPU die. There are 2 dies on the GPU chip--a large one and a smaller one. I had overlooked the smaller one for some reason.
What this leads me to believe is that on normal 2D games, the larger die is the primary GPU while the smaller die is for 3D--since that makes the most sense of my symptoms.
Instead of resorting to the heat gun again, I just reapplied thermal compound to the dies correctly and did some testing. I'm still in the middle of testing but I did find that after the thermal compound was applied correctly that the games (no matter what I was playing) played for hours but would still lock up on a heavy GPU game after about 2 hours.
I reapplied the heat gun trick last night and have a friend testing the system today for multiple hours and hours since I have a day job and don't have the time.
So, what I'm wondering is when you notice the system playing for hours on end, what type of game are you playing? When it locks up after 5 minutes, what type of game are you playing?
Could it be the game type?
Also, I wanted to thank everyone here for their input as its been invaluable to me. Thanks.
Post by: KennethKaniff308 on April 12, 2007, 06:48:00 AM
Will keep all updated on success or no.............
Post by: dragunz on April 16, 2007, 03:08:00 PM
anything i can do?
Post by: mr2000jp on April 20, 2007, 04:55:00 PM
so , to solve this problem , (for the very experienced professionals only)
you have to heat the chip with a heat gun on a very high heat , but be careful not to burn it , dont use any flux or paste at all , and dont forget to clean the old compound paste , its not good to heat it while so , this will make the connections get soldereed correctly , but belive me its really hard to to know when to stop heating , thats why just a well experienced guy with heat gun should do it , and never ever touch the chip while its hot , if you did ,it will definetly be blasted , the solder balls might move and make a disaster , and you dont want to remove the whole chip and redesolder it , its almost impossible
Post by: rocky69 on April 20, 2007, 08:01:00 PM
Post by: JakeDunn on April 21, 2007, 10:59:00 AM
QUOTE(tarrbot @ Apr 12 2007, 04:31 AM)
What this leads me to believe is that on normal 2D games, the larger die is the primary GPU while the smaller die is for 3D--since that makes the most sense of my symptoms.
Not that its helping the thread (sorry mods), but I just wanted to correct something about the Xenos. All rendering is done by the larger die which is then sent over to the daughter die (eDRAM) for added effects like AA, z alpha blending, etc, which is then sent over to the system memory and so forth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
In short, X360 doesnt have a gpu that separates 2D and 3D applications, just wanted to clear that up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: AlexGW on April 24, 2007, 11:30:00 AM
This post has been edited by AlexGW: Apr 24 2007, 06:35 PM
Post by: skibum3027 on April 25, 2007, 01:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Lpk32187 @ Mar 18 2006, 03:44 PM)
Im getting a 0020, have no fucking clue what it means.
I think i figured out exactly what code 0020 is. There isn't a particular error associated with overheating. Instead, there are different areas where an internal error can occur, which are likely caused by overheating.
Each code refers to a certain area of circuitry where the problem exists.
Code 0020 seems to refer to the circuitry between the Microsoft XSB chip and the AV port of the 360 on the motherboard.
This also explains why people who receive a code 0020 usually experience difficulties (4 flashing red lights) before the 'fatal' 3 flashing red lights.
Having not experienced any of the other errors (besides 0020) personally, I haven't taken the time to find where exactly on the motherboard the other errors take place.
Anyway, having the codes control different sections of circuitry makes more sense for Microsoft. That way, when they receive a broken unit, all they have to do is check the code and repair that area of the motherboard.
This is just a theory. I'll update exactly what the problem is when i have a chance to address it with the right tools later tonight.
QUOTE(AlexGW @ Apr 24 2007, 01:37 PM)
I've got ahold of a 0020 error code unit, havn't had a chance to look at it as of yet, recieved the error right on power up (from cold) so i'm not sure about it being tied to overheating, anyone else here ever had a unit with 0020?
read my post above
This post has been edited by skibum3027: Apr 25 2007, 09:08 PM
Post by: AlexGW on April 25, 2007, 04:28:00 PM
Another unit I now have is giving the 0002 error code, but doesn't reflect the definition specified on this topic. The unit in question doesn't boot up correctly (fans will spin up for a second then switch off, the PSU light remains Orange. BUT the ROL comes up with the 3 reds to give the 0002 code.
Notice to those with the 0002 error - The x clamp replacement bolts and washers doesn't help.
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Post by: dj_adamix on May 19, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
Post by: wellmodded on May 20, 2007, 09:13:00 PM
Post by: siksnipa on May 22, 2007, 05:50:00 PM
these error codes are all well and good
but i don't get an error code a get a flash of blue (or it just stay like that)
the thing freezes and i have to walk over and turn it off.
it just keeps doing it over and over and over
sometimes it will be right away sometimes it will happen a minute in
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif) i have no clue......
i thinkin i will have to send it in but this is the first time it has done that though so
i'm hopin i wont have to but you never know
If you've got any info on this plz share it with me
thx
Post by: rvdd196 on May 24, 2007, 12:42:00 AM
Thanks
Post by: pool_boy on May 24, 2007, 10:10:00 AM
PB
Post by: JagStone on May 25, 2007, 02:41:00 AM
QUOTE(wellmodded @ May 21 2007, 04:49 AM)
Has any one been succesfull in solveing the 0022 error i am still working on i would lvoe any advice thkz
Done two of these with the heat gun.
First one would never boot, always gave 0022. Took it all apart, tested it again, and it gave 1033. Reflowed the GPU and memory, repasted it and it worked first time. Always managed to boot up, left it soak-testing (playing a DVD) and after about half an hour it crashed with 0110.
Second one alternated between 0110 and 0022 (never booting), so I guess they're very closely related.
Reflowing the memory and GPU look like a good start, at least. I'm going to try the X-clamp replacement on both to see if they improve, but I'd start with a good reflow and hope you get lucky.
Stone
Post by: Usuario-X on May 26, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
1. Remove any discs from the disc tray.
2. Turn the console off.
3. Turn the console on.
Note If you are using an Xbox 360 Wireless Controller, turn the console on by using the Xbox Guide button on the controller. Make sure that you use the player 1 controller when you do this. The player 1 controller will have the upper-left quadrant light illuminated.
4. As the console starts, press and hold the Y button, and then pull the right trigger at the same time.
5. The Xbox Dashboard resets the display settings to the default settings, and then automatically restarts the console.
Post by: FILTHY J NASTY on May 26, 2007, 04:36:00 PM
QUOTE(dj_adamix @ May 20 2007, 05:59 AM)
alright found out what was the problem
0002 u seed to change those 2 parts on the mobo. i did it and it works fine, now im just waiting for one guy to dump the dvd key from my chip and ill be playing days and night how? i have erroe 0002
Post by: GuyWhoNeedsXboxHelp on May 28, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
I played about 10 hours yesterday, and installed an update to my 360 a few days ago so that I could play more original Xbox games on my 360. This morning, when i turned it on, the lower right section (section 4) blinked red and E 73 appeared on the screen. My error code is 1021, which i haven't seen at all in this topic or anywhere else. I've tried unplugging everything, taking out the hard drive, etc., but nothing has worked. I might try fixing it with a hair dryer, but don't want to void my Microsoft warranty if it doesn't work.
Thanks in advance!
Post by: GuyWhoNeedsXboxHelp on May 28, 2007, 03:24:00 PM
360 Motherboard Difference
Thanks again.
Post by: DuduMelibeuBR on June 01, 2007, 07:10:00 PM
If i make the Xclamp mode, how long it will work? Just tell me what u think..
Weeks? Months? Years
? a lot? =p
Post by: ebomb101 on June 02, 2007, 05:01:00 PM
. i have no clue as to why it is happening . my 360 just started doing it today for no reason somtimes it starts up a game but then it freezes and a sort of checkerd pattern shows up and wen i restart it the red light show up.but every time i turn it back on the red lights dont always occur until its been on for a few minutes. does anyone know wuts wrong and how i can fix it.Post by: z4c on June 03, 2007, 05:05:00 PM
This post has been edited by z4c: Jun 4 2007, 12:14 AM
Post by: PlatoonSgtElias on June 05, 2007, 10:04:00 AM
My first post! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
THANK YOU!!! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD THANK YOU! I now own a XBox360 wich i got for free (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) from friend.. he had the three red lights and sound but no picture problem. He said if u can fix it u can have it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and thanks to that hot air blower guide i had success!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Working on a new coolin right now (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I stripped the motherboard of xbox360, then did round circles with hot air blower round 100c or smth on both sides, left it on the balcony for overnight and when i was at work i took it inside the room at the morning. I did like 5 tries last night and no success but then last time i did it like really patianetly and carefully and let it sit for 12hours (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and whoila!!
THANKS GUYS! Ill stay in touch! Ill post youtube videos too.
This post has been edited by PlatoonSgtElias: Jun 5 2007, 05:05 PM
Post by: benish on June 07, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
One day all of a sudden i got the 3 lights, having not played it for about a week. I quickly checked the internet and i determined i had the error 0020, but I cant understand it been a overheating problem because of how long it had been off.
Anyway i put on some new thermal paste, called Formula 5, here in the UK, nothing worked.
Yesterday I took it to a local shop and he tried and tried but could do nothing. I now get the code 0110.
This evening I opened it up and again it still doesn't work. When I remove the heat sinks I now only get 2 red flashing lights.
what do you recommend, should I get some new heat sinks?
thanks for all the help guys
Post by: scarefreak on June 08, 2007, 12:11:00 AM
ps....i typed all this on my psp lol! i feel too lazy to get off my bed and take 3 steps lol
Post by: Daveychan on June 10, 2007, 04:21:00 PM
I got the three rings of death and read every one of these pages. Decided to try the most risk-free methods and did both the "eraser trick" and the "toothpick trick". I put my 360 back together and voila! .. all is happy and well. I played Halo2 Live for an hour or so and then tested out a couple of other games for a bit... hopefully the fix is here to stay!
Cheers again for all the good support!
Post by: falc0n1 on June 11, 2007, 07:38:00 AM
Now for the 2ed 360 I have, Like I said I got them both from ebay and this one was giving me an error 0102 too, I used the heat gun a few times with the same error code 0102. Then I did the X-clamp replacement and now it's giving me error 0021 I tighten & loosen the bolt with still no luck. Has anyone gotten this error? Has anyone ever fixed this error too?
Post by: Agent_J on June 11, 2007, 06:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jul 20 2006, 07:48 AM)
Hallo,
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
1/1/07 Edit: Link to video, hosted by Google.
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
anyone have a link to these videos? both the youtube and mpg download are not working
Post by: CounterBlow on June 11, 2007, 06:08:00 PM
QUOTE(Agent_J @ Jun 11 2007, 08:40 PM)
anyone have a link to these videos? both the youtube and mpg download are not working
The Google one still works:
http://video.google....6...20fix&hl=en
If THAT doesn't work, let me know and I'll re-up it to YouTube.
Post by: falc0n1 on June 12, 2007, 07:01:00 AM
please help
Post by: xKuban Kevinx on June 12, 2007, 02:00:00 PM
Post by: the grendel on June 13, 2007, 06:13:00 AM
Post by: Professa Oak on June 17, 2007, 01:10:00 PM
I just recently read about a resoldering technique you guys have been talking about. I'm not sure I will try it or give it to corporate BS and pay the $130, rather than get a new one. I will say that after leaving it unused for about a week and turning it on it worked just fine, played a game for about 3 minutes, and turned it off. It gave the same error when turning it back on. This was all before I tried to fix it, so it must be something loose, like a pin. I think we can confirm that the 0020 is a loose pin or overheating problem in the GPU to AV out section.
Post by: Hermann Neupert on June 18, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
So I'm sure you can add to E74 this little things under the GPU.
By the way I check the ANA chip and it looks fine, and the video conector is also fine, the conection is working, other thing in another console with E74 I change the cable for VGA and it works, so if you have E74 that also could be a solution change AV cable but for a VGA one.
Post by: Hermann Neupert on June 18, 2007, 12:39:00 PM
That are the things giving me the troubles.
First I replace the broken one, and then I get the error E73, then I pull it out and just bridge the points and I get a short and then a 0022 error, so I clean all, and try again putting the little resistor and back to E73, I will check all my connections to see if I'm missing something, but I' now sure that if you get a E74 or E73 after doing a x-clamp replacement or heat gun, you broke one of this two little things, I will now try to put the resistor of a really gone dead mobo that i use to take repairs.
Again sorry for my bad english I hope this info is usefull.
Post by: tarrbot on June 18, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Then it just started crapping out. Reheat, works for a shorter time and crap out.
I expected as much since I bought it broken to begin with.
As noted in earlier posts, it had the 0102 error.
I did a little research here and there and just decided to jump in whole hog.
I picked up a copper HSF from a 1U server, a TEC and some Arctic Silver Ceramique.
I cut down the HSF and removed the fan. Polished the cuts and put the HS onto the GPU. I had some leftover material from where I cut it down and put those on the exposed memory chips. Additionally, I took 2 copper pennies and sanded them smooth to act as spacers on the HS and the memory chips below the HS.
I opted to not install the TEC at this point just to see if it'd work.
It worked wonders. It's never worked this well in the past. HOURS and HOURS of use on this thing now.
And the best part is that if it ever acts up, I already have the TEC in hand to zap it with ice cold copper.
Total cost, not counting the TEC and Arctic Silver: $30.50 and a bit of patience in sanding copper.
Post by: Hermann Neupert on June 19, 2007, 09:58:00 AM
If someone needs info of this error pm me.
As I say before, I think this is the cause of E74 after x-clamps or after reheating.
If you have E74 from the beggining is more probable that is the cable, ana chipset or the AV conector in the mobo.
Hope you understand me english, but I think is getting better with this little practice.
Post by: happykillmore on June 20, 2007, 01:04:00 PM
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Post by: BoneDriver on June 27, 2007, 06:35:00 PM
http://gizmodo.com/g...eath-217686.php
Post by: showtime919 on June 30, 2007, 07:40:00 AM
any1 know what to do??
Post by: hassle on June 30, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
QUOTE(showtime919 @ Jun 30 2007, 07:16 AM)
i turned my xbox on and it made a "beep" noise and than the whole screen turned red so i said ok than i turned it off... tuned it back on and boom "beep" then the whole screen tunred green
any1 know what to do??
sounds like your compnent cables are on the fritz. that would explain only the red or only the green showing up.
Post by: sniper68500 on July 01, 2007, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: lllsondowlll on July 02, 2007, 12:45:00 AM
I know it sounds crazy but it's true he said it said E405 which confirmed my suspicion. he then dropped his camera and hasn't responded
EDIT: He just replied and picked up his damn webcam and his 360 is smoking! He unplugged it. Its internally on fire. Something is seriously wrong here.
This post has been edited by lllsondowlll: Jul 2 2007, 07:49 AM
Post by: benallen on July 02, 2007, 09:24:00 AM
Post by: lllsondowlll on July 02, 2007, 11:11:00 PM
QUOTE(benallen @ Jul 2 2007, 05:00 PM)
Hello all, I have a 0001 error code, which means its a power supply problem as you all know. I have tried to fix it myself but can't, I was wondering if anyone might know how to fix it without having to open the console. Also I cannot send it away to ms as it is a modded console
Get an installer to do it for you. Got m4x would be my first suggestion but it seems hes been busy with work this past year but look around the forums. Make sure the installers will guarantee success and will replace any part for free in case of an accident. Also make sure they are located near your state and all contact means are in order.
Post by: manineedanswers on July 05, 2007, 12:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Team Modfreakz @ Jul 20 2006, 12:48 PM)
Hallo,
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
1/1/07 Edit: Link to video, hosted by Google.
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
I was curious if you knew how to actually individually take the chips off them selves
and apply the solder anyother way maybe carefully chip by chip?
if anyone could give me any pointers, cause i would much rather do this than us a heat gun.
Post by: 1337pwner on July 05, 2007, 07:13:00 PM
section 3 and 4
didn't see anything to check for this error code, could someone assist?
thanks
i had 3 red lights last week, so i reapplied AS5 and replaced the xclamps with machine screws per the xclamp tut
My temps are GPU 46C and CPU 30C idle
GPU 55C and CPU 44C full load
Any ideas?
This post has been edited by 1337pwner: Jul 6 2007, 02:15 AM
Post by: SMSgtRod on July 05, 2007, 11:00:00 PM
By JESSICA MINTZ ,AP
Posted: 2007-07-06 01:11:23
Filed Under: Business News
SEATTLE (July 6) - In another setback for Microsoft Corp.'s unprofitable entertainment and devices division, the company says it is planning to spend at least $1 billion to repair serious problems with its Xbox 360 video game console.
By Justin Sullivan, Getty Images
Citing "an unacceptable number of repairs to Xbox 360 consoles," Microsoft says that customers experiencing hardware failure will now be covered by a three-year warranty.
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Microsoft declined to detail the problems that have caused an onslaught of "general hardware failures" in recent months but said Thursday it will extend the warranty on the consoles to three years.
The glitches, and the bad publicity, could weigh the company down as it claws for market share in the highly competitive console market. In May, the Xbox 360 ranked No. 2 in unit sales behind Nintendo 's Wii, but still beat out Sony's Playstation 3, according to data from NPD Group.
"We don't think we've been getting the job done," said Robbie Bach, president of Microsoft's entertainment and devices division, which also makes the Zune digital music player, a distant competitor to Apple Inc.'s powerhouse iPod. "In the past few months, we have been having to make Xbox 360 console repairs at a rate too high for our liking."
Bach said the company made some manufacturing and production changes that he expects will reduce Xbox 360 hardware lockups, but he declined to identify the problems or say which others might remain. Microsoft said it will record a charge of up to $1.15 billion for its fourth fiscal quarter, which ended June 30, to cover the additional costs associated with the warranty extension.
The news comes just days before the video game industry descends on Santa Monica, Calif., for its annual E3 conference, and it could overshadow Microsoft's plans to build buzz for holiday season video game releases and "Halo 3," a much-anticipated shoot-'em-up for the Xbox 360 set to launch in September.
The software maker also said Thursday that sales of the game console fell short of expectations for the fiscal year that just ended.
Matt Rosoff, an analyst at the independent research group Directions on Microsoft, estimates that Microsoft's entertainment and devices division has lost more than $6 billion since 2002.
Microsoft has written down larger amounts in the past - more than $10 billion in the late 1990s related to investments in telecommunications companies, and more than $5 billion related to antitrust issues - but a $1 billion write-down for one division in one quarter is significant.
"It suggests the problem is pretty widespread," Rosoff said.
Microsoft will pay for shipping and repairs for three years, worldwide, for consoles that experience hardware failure, which is usually indicated by three flashing red lights on the front of the console, something gamers sometimes refer to as "the red ring of death."
This isn't the first time Microsoft has made changes to the Xbox 360 repair plan. Last December, the company extended the warranty from 90 days to one year for U.S. customers. In Europe, the warranty previously expired after two years.
Microsoft also will reimburse the "small number" of Xbox 360 owners who have paid for shipping and repairs on out-of-warranty consoles, Bach said.
In June, bloggers speculated that the Xbox 360 return problem was getting so severe that the company was running out of "coffins," or special return-shipping boxes Microsoft provides to gamers with dead consoles. "We'll make sure we have plenty of boxes to go back and forth," Bach said in an interview.
Chris Liddell, Microsoft's chief financial officer, said in a conference call that the company sold 11.6 million Xbox 360 consoles since the product's November 2005 launch, missing a target for 12 million units by the end of the fiscal year.
Xbox 360 prices range from $299 to $479, depending on their configuration.
Microsoft's entertainment and devices division reported an operating loss of $315 million on $929 million in sales for the three-month period that ended in March. Microsoft has said it expects the division to post a profit in fiscal 2008.
Microsoft announced the warranty extension after markets closed Thursday. Microsoft shares fell 11 cents to $29.88 in extended trading after falling 3 cents to $29.99 in the regular session.
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Post by: crapfest2007 on July 06, 2007, 03:54:00 AM
When i replaced the drive with a drive i had laying around it doesn't display the error any more (1 flashing red light)
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Post by: mlapaglia on July 06, 2007, 06:09:00 PM
just thought you'd like to know
Post by: Kreez on July 16, 2007, 10:25:00 PM
But now I get E74 with error code 1022. I tried searching through this thread, the only advice I found was to get a new AV cable, that didn't work.
Any advice?
Post by: bouncey bouncey on July 17, 2007, 02:07:00 AM
The errors i got was e74 first then as ive wrote this ive had 2 errors while on the phone to microsoft one was e71 and the e74 and the red lights of doom. i am not impressed or happy cause now i have to take it back to the shop.
Microsoft were highly abrupt on the phone just took me serial number and said to take it back to the store. BUT WHEN YOU LIVE 90+ MILES FROM THE TWATTY STORE YOU CANT EXACTALLY TAKE IT BACK
When he asked me to restart the console i did that and low and behold no lights came on at all except the power bit in the middle and all 4 lights in green on the controler but no error.
Now after 20+ times of resetting it ive finally got it working ( Thank Gawd ) but wonder how long it will be until the crappy errors come back up :|
Has anyone else had this problem with it starting up but no lights on at all and having a black screen on the tv. Its really knarking me.
Post by: flashfreak on July 24, 2007, 02:01:00 AM
Anyone got any good ideas or should i just try to upgrade the fans?
Post by: notrain on July 24, 2007, 03:33:00 AM
Post by: gunther482 on July 24, 2007, 06:17:00 AM
Then i figured, oh great, we got internal problems. So i figured im not going to try to fix it myself cause i haven't voided the warranty yet and I think i can get it fixed for free under the new warranty system even though i bought it last november.I think its with the GPU or that AV chip thingy.
Post by: gunther482 on July 24, 2007, 06:51:00 AM
Post by: cisco7200 on July 26, 2007, 02:36:00 PM
I fixed my 0020 Console with the X-Clamp replacement. The Rubber Eraser Mod (pieces of rubber on the RAMs)
3 penny fix
I have looked but can't seem to find a good tut on these can any one help me. I get the error code above and it seems to go away if I revert my dvd back to the original config then update it again it works for about a day but then it gives me the same error again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Post by: Abeerdrinker on July 28, 2007, 10:23:00 AM
Its error code is #0203
This is the first one I got with a error code this strange. I guess this 360 is FUBAR
Anyone got one with a funky error code like this before??
Post by: gunther482 on July 31, 2007, 05:52:00 AM
QUOTE(Abeerdrinker @ Jul 28 2007, 11:59 AM)
I picked a 360 from a guy that had the 3 lights of death. I gave him 50 bucks for it. I took it home and seen that it has a error code not discovered yet.
Its error code is #0203
This is the first one I got with a error code this strange. I guess this 360 is FUBAR
Anyone got one with a funky error code like this before??
I can't say that i have, and EVERYBODY LEAVE OFF THE INTERCOOLER, THEY DO NOT WORK PROPERLY AND CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS.
Post by: sniper68500 on August 05, 2007, 09:41:00 PM
QUOTE(gunther482 @ Jul 31 2007, 01:28 PM)
I can't say that i have, and EVERYBODY LEAVE OFF THE INTERCOOLER, THEY DO NOT WORK PROPERLY AND CAUSE MORE PROBLEMS.
He is right, if ever you put an intercooler on your console and have it get the 3rlod 2 months later the intercooler is most likely what cuased, it happened to me and many others.
Post by: mstodge on August 09, 2007, 09:26:00 AM
At this moment, i'm not willing to pay £63 a repair which i feel is their fault.
Regards
Mark.
Post by: gunther482 on August 11, 2007, 09:08:00 AM
QUOTE(mstodge @ Aug 9 2007, 11:02 AM)
Same thing happened to me too, i think it has something to do with the latest update. I turned on console, asked me to update, i did so, it rebooted fine, i bought Track and field, played that for a while, turned off for a few hours, turned back on and E74 error code. I calleds support and they told me to do the same things(unplug everything). After all this failed she said it needs to be repaired. Mine is out of warranty so will cost £63. I told her its happened because of the update as its been fine since i had it, but she begged to differ.
At this moment, i'm not willing to pay £63 a repair which i feel is their fault.
Regards
Mark.
I bet it is because I've heard a lot of people having problems with theres due to the spring dash board update. Or interrupted downloads.
Post by: topspot on August 12, 2007, 03:32:00 AM
Post by: catman25 on August 14, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: mr2000jp on August 15, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
0012 gpu overheating
that was tested and verified by me
Post by: mr2000jp on August 15, 2007, 03:00:00 PM
please mods add this to the list
Post by: psmadness on August 19, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
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2. Buy 4 airconditions each one for each side of your incredible and OF COURSE PREVIOUS GENERATION CONSOLE.
3. You can put your amazing machine in the fridge so not to have a problem
4. You can call BILL to make air on his stupid , ugly and amature lame gaming (DISH!!!) console
5. AND BEST SOLUTION
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Post by: That One Guy313 on August 21, 2007, 03:56:00 PM
Post by: Grim187 on August 24, 2007, 07:11:00 PM
1013 = E71
Post by: PSoff on August 29, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
Just wanted some advice before telling the poor guy he's out $350.
Thanks in advance!
Post by: ed kelly on September 04, 2007, 10:15:00 AM
THANKS
Post by: dragoonadept on September 06, 2007, 07:35:00 PM
I'd gotten 2 CoD4 BETA keys a few days ago, one for me and one for a friend. Joy. It is a extremely fun Beta, and I miss it already. Back on subject..
I played it on and off for the past few days with no problems at all, until today.
Just like any other day: Played a couple rounds with a friend, shut it off, played some Ragnarok Online (I know, "It's so old!").
Came back after a friend called me on my cell, "Hey, you hit level 11 yet? We're waiting for you!" Alright, I'm coming.. Oh, my 360 didn't agree. It gave me the finger. I don't know how exactly, but it did. I tried out the error code button combinations, subsequentially giving me "0020". "Great" I thought, "I love unknown things." Microsoft seems to like it when we are in the dark, too. 3-5 days for a box to arrive, and 3 weeks for repair. If it progresses just as Achmed (The dude I talked to, seriously. Speak english much?) ligned out, it will take 3 weeks for repair. That schedule, gives me +/- 2 days within the launch of Halo 3.
I'm not holding my breath.
Why? Microsoft just keeps screwing me(everyone) over.
Post by: Darth Theo on September 08, 2007, 04:31:00 AM
Post by: bonsc2 on September 08, 2007, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: matted on September 09, 2007, 03:33:00 AM
I get no error codes or red lights. I don't have a hard drive.
Any ideas of the cause of this?
Post by: AirRage on September 09, 2007, 05:12:00 AM
QUOTE(matted @ Sep 9 2007, 06:09 AM)
My Xbox has just started to fail to load any games / dvds. It gets to the xbox logo and then just freezes.
I get no error codes or red lights. I don't have a hard drive.
Any ideas of the cause of this?
Same with me but i fixed mine by putting the Rubber on GPU memory chips. Been perfect ever since.
Post by: matted on September 09, 2007, 05:56:00 AM
QUOTE(AirRage @ Sep 9 2007, 12:48 PM)
Same with me but i fixed mine by putting the Rubber on GPU memory chips. Been perfect ever since.
sorry where do u find the gpu memory chips
Post by: ceored on September 09, 2007, 10:52:00 PM
Didn't see error at first, boots fine, DVD playback. Started freezing on Live updates, regressed to freeze on boot and no boot. Applied A5, no help. 3 penny spacer thing, no help though fans spin faster which is alright with me, board does flex though, was still booting and/or freezing at this point no 3rol. Tighten stock xclamps and 0020, loosen and boot/freeze. one by one found to be left rear, difference between boot and 0020 is an 1/8 of a turn. When held as tight as possible I still can't boot a game. X-Replacement next step, will advise if I get it going.
Post by: ceored on September 11, 2007, 08:57:00 PM
Post by: numeroun0 on September 14, 2007, 10:49:00 AM
QUOTE(ceored @ Sep 11 2007, 11:33 PM)
Fixed my 0020 box. MKIII method w/ 3 washer from bottom of the board to chassis and one between board and heatsink. Over tightening gave 0020, under tightening would boot and freeze the box. It took some playing with the right amount of tension but finally got it going. Now it needs an extra fan to keep the GPU from getting too hot and moving the BGA joints. That said I would say that 0020 is due to bad BGA joints and is difficult to fix, but it can be done with patience and lots of trial an error. All and all I spent 1 hour on different configuration of MKIII before I fixed my box.
I am new to this forum and I don't see a place to post a reply so I am using the qoute button to post. If someone could direct me on how to post without the use of the qoute button I woul be much appreciated. Thanks!
I got the three rings of death a couple of weeks ago and I sent my box off to the HQ for repair, luckily mine lasted until MS decided to upgrade the warranty to 3 years. My xbox lasted about 2 years without a problem. I understand MS used shitty solder so the gpu is not functioning properly. The thing is I have heard some people say that if you use an intercooler that it will void the warranty(not sure if thats true), but I put one on mine about a month after I bought it and it probally had alot to do with why mine worked so long. I wish I ahd as much knowledge as some of you have, because I would have never put it on top of my directtv hd reciever which pumps out alot of heat even when it's not running, but just now as I am writing this I am realizing that is probally exactly why mine lasted so long. In fact it' sound as if the consoles will last longer the hotter you keep them just becuase it softens the solder and hepls the connection. I saw pictures of the repaired units with new heat sinks. I hope MS uses the silver solder everyone is talikng about, because it sound like that will permanately fix the problems and with the new updates getting more out of these machines and them running faster and hotter in the future. It will be needed if MS wants to continue to improve the performance and get the most out of these consoles. If they just decide to cheap fix the it would behoove them to not try and maximise the potential of this machine. What a cluster fuc by ms. My question is, where did they make these machines. I'm getting tired of american companys giving away american jobs to crappy ass underpaid exploited employees of China. Destroying what could have been a fantastic console, and killing all of our pets and poisoning our children with lead.
Post by: 360bugsout on September 14, 2007, 11:11:00 AM
QUOTE(Darkshot1 @ Apr 7 2006, 05:23 AM)
I'm getting the 3 red lights, and the error code is 0102, and I have no idea what's wrong. It gave me this error before, and would not turn on, but somehow fixed itself (only thing i did was plug in my mp3 player to it, but thats most likely unrelated.)
Now its doing it again and its not turning on at all. I guess i got lucky last time. It hasn't even been used for about 4 hours, and it wasn't any rigorous playing, so its not overheating. I just decided to turn it on and it did this. It also froze up earlier during Perfect Dark, might be related.
It says on this thread that 0102 is an unknown error... anyone know?
ya i got the 0102 code and i called xbox told em i think i have a gpu error and hes like .. i dont know what your talking about and that was the repair line !!! thats what you get for outsourcing to poeple who dont know nothing bout
But yea man they said oh its kinda a serious error when u get 3 lights so go ahead and send to us.... so my system is off to the hells of MS i wont see my 360 for a month :/ 3 weeks ONCE THEY RECIEVE IT thats bull crap... so that means they recieve it set it on a shelf and forget it. and not to mention all those poeple slamming it around and treating my baby like shit and i swear if it comes back with my face plate gone and a stock one on it ima be pissed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Post by: spurs2k5 on September 19, 2007, 08:14:00 PM
. So far been runing for bout 1.5 hrs now and no problems as of yet. I dont think that this is a permenant fix however. So far though it looks promising. So in conclusion, the HEAT GUN METHOD IN FACT DOES WORK ALONG WITH ADDING FRESH AS5! JOY! Im back on XBL playing GOW again !p.s. I would personally like to thank every1 in the community for thier hard work and dedication. I've learned so much from all you guys, and keep up the GR8 work. Beers on me
Post by: Sculay on September 19, 2007, 09:24:00 PM
MS sent this saying its fixed but it only did that so i rang them and they sent me PGR3 and a 360 controller as well as a brand new system
Post by: spurs2k5 on September 21, 2007, 11:42:00 AM
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Post by: Deus Sceleris on October 02, 2007, 06:55:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 28 2006, 06:00 AM)
E74: There is a 90% chance it's a scaler chip problem (the "ANA" or "HANA" chip near the AV cable connection) it can also be caused by a faulty AV cable so check that first. In rare cases it is a problem with the GPU.
What causes the E74 error exactly? Excess heat? My 360 was in an open area. Or is it a design flaw by Microsoft?
Thanks in advance (i'm writing an angry letter
)
Post by: myerz635 on October 11, 2007, 01:23:00 AM
Post by: dementionX on October 16, 2007, 09:59:00 AM
this sucks, 1 month without live or halo 3 or anything... this sucks a LOT
Post by: crapfest2007 on October 20, 2007, 07:00:00 AM
I think that it is GPU related i fixed a 360 the other day by replacing the xclamps and i got this code. Turns out i had the heat sink too tight against the GPU, once i loosended it worked perfect (i use 1 lock washer under each leg). Tested for over an hour.
Post by: tommarndt on October 21, 2007, 09:17:00 PM
I got this error right after my drive stopped reading disks.
Next thing you know my drive wont open and i get an E64 error with 1000 code. So it's something DVD drive related, but not sure exact cause. I did find however that when i smacked the front of the drive hard after getting pissed at it, everything worked fine for the a day before it went bad again...
And all this on my Halo Edition 360...
Post by: alehman1 on October 22, 2007, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: j5350 on October 24, 2007, 09:45:00 PM
I believe this error is caused by the HYNIX Flash. While testing my connections for a dual kernal system, I booted with the CE pin conected by DPDT switch. After a normal boot, I tested with it disconected. This gave me 3RL and error 0022. I turned off the system, fliped the switch, booted up to error E72 (which I thought was odd.) I turned the system off and waited 10 sec to make sure it was completley down. Turned back on to a normal boot up.
Post by: j5350 on October 24, 2007, 10:49:00 PM
QUOTE(j5350 @ Oct 25 2007, 12:21 AM)
Error E72 with 0022
I believe this error is caused by the HYNIX Flash. While testing my connections for a dual kernal system, I booted with the CE pin conected by DPDT switch. After a normal boot, I tested with it disconected. This gave me 3RL and error 0022. I turned off the system, fliped the switch, booted up to error E72 (which I thought was odd.) I turned the system off and waited 10 sec to make sure it was completley down. Turned back on to a normal boot up.
Sorry, missed something. When started with CE disconected, I get 3RL with 0022. 1st boot after switch is flipped gives E72 with error 1020. Next boot is perfectly normal.
Post by: kristonex on October 30, 2007, 04:18:00 PM
No video. has anyone had success fixing this code with the x-clamp method or should I bother? Only thing I did to console was some talismoon fans and we had some pretty bad electrical storms the other night the only thing I can really think would be the problem.
Post by: Relix on October 30, 2007, 05:40:00 PM
Post by: sowa99 on October 31, 2007, 02:24:00 AM
QUOTE
Got that same 0030 code. The system powers up the fans shut off the power brick goes amber and no video, can't even eject. I have used 4 different power bricks and still the same error. I have searched for broken traces between the ram chips and the gpu and I have added quick silver to the cpu and gpu and heat dispensing pads to the ram chips. No go even after heat gun trick. 0030 = totally f'ed up
AFAIK 0030 code is problem with temperature controling. I'm pretty sure with it but i haven't fix for it
Post by: parrapa on October 31, 2007, 05:43:00 AM
I have a question, I have replaced the x-clamps and I am now getting the 0020 error, as opposed to the 3 lights that I originally had.
After reading on here it seems that I may have tightned them a bit tight, so I will try losing them when i get home tonight, the problem I have is that I have used M6 fibre washers and they seem to be covering the wholes that the smallest of the torgue screws go into, is this going to cause me further problems?
Thanks
Col
Post by: Z3ROMIS3RY on October 31, 2007, 07:52:00 PM
I have a problem apparently with my AV cable, I turn on my system and wait 25 seconds and then i get 4 red lights every time, i read what to do and tried them all and none seem to work....is there a problem with the system or still the plugs. If anyone has an advice let me know.
Thank You
Post by: Raketes on November 01, 2007, 11:34:00 AM
I did some searching but the blinking and the pathern is kinda strange, i got the console horizontaly and there are the folowing lights blinking simultaneous: 1st(top left) 3rt(lower right) and 4th(lower left), the 2nd isn't on. (horizontal count).
I tried to get the code error but when i press sync and Eject, my drive ejects and the lights keep blinking... can't understand.
Anyone knows what this is? i was playing Bioshock before lunch and when i got back the console started doing this. Netherless to say that it doesn't give any message on tv.
And also the PSU is green when 360 is on and orange when turned off.
(and the console has been opened... tham it).
This post has been edited by Raketes: Nov 1 2007, 06:37 PM
Post by: barndogg on November 01, 2007, 09:37:00 PM
fucken microsoft and dodgy engineering.
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Post by: richmann on November 02, 2007, 11:41:00 AM
hope this helps some ppl
Post by: Skydiving_101 on November 02, 2007, 01:49:00 PM
Ok I have been showing an E-64 on my system since like Feb. I had no idea what to do and then all of a sudden it just started working again on Sun. I went to turn it on today and its back. What do i do. Im out of War. and i need to get it fixed were haveing a Halo battle this weekend any clues?
Thanks,
Post by: mprinkey on November 05, 2007, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: Kunzy on November 07, 2007, 05:04:00 PM
The second error code is 0102. So, i opened her up and started messin. I got the heatsinks off, cleaned them, put some AS5 on and put the heatsinks back on. I did the screws tight as i could to see if i could help the supposed cold joint. I got it all back together and powered her on. I got the 3 red lights again.
I turned it off, put pressure on the GPU and turned it on. It was a no-go. I noticed that the heatsink got hot fast.
I read something about over heating it to re-solder the broken joints. How do i do this? The links on how to do it on page 1 dont work.
Got suggestions?
Post by: MaximusX15 on November 08, 2007, 08:24:00 AM
I've figured this code out
it is when the motherboard is bent! if you have one of the heatsink scres (x-clamp or just the tiny black screws that connect the shell to the mobo) too tight or they are all uneven it causes the motherboard to be bent. its an instant 3 lights. no two second pause like error 0102.. idk i think you should update the error code list
Post by: ICEFIR3 on November 09, 2007, 12:51:00 PM
Here's my story (sorta summarized)
Accidentally left cabinet door closed while playing few hour session. Said "OH SHIT!" when I noticed and opened the door to my 360+ degree 360. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Turned it off and actually didn't play for a couple days.
Next time I go to play, video is kinda wonky... turn it off and back on, video is fixed.
Next day I turn on the 360, seems to boot fine but no video or audio... and no RLoD... Tried different cables, no different.
Learn about XClamp, pennies, eraser, towels and all that shit... Decide I'm going to try some out as my Box no longer qualifies for warranty.
Spend 1/2 day trying to implement XClamp fix. (After booting the first time after doing so I start getting the 3RLoD) AND every time I make an adjustment I get a different error code.
Codes I received at various points: 0001, 0002, 0012, 0020, 0022, 0102, and even 1022!!
The most common I ran into were: 0020 (the ?? one), 0001 (PSU error) and 0102.
Modifying the amount of tension on the screws and heating the board/CPU/GPU would trigger these issues.
I've now gotten my 360 going twice by readjusting the HS screws and heating it up with a heat gun.
I just finished doing it the second time, I'll report back once I see how long this lasts.
I think that tightening your screws too hard will trigger 0020 (and even 0001) which warps the board, similarily how the XClamps did. So when doing XClamp fix, be sure to start with the screws barely even snug and keep trying to boot. AND remember to boot it up twice for each test so that you're sure the error has been cleared in the POST.
GL.
Post by: Cobb2003 on November 10, 2007, 04:30:00 PM
hope this helps.
Post by: FrederickUK on November 13, 2007, 02:44:00 PM
I've got an 0102 box infront of me at the minute, and that one has responed to pressure on the north-west corner of the GPU (all I did was move the dvd drive out the way, press down north-west of the gpu heatsink and it booted up straight away.
I'm still going to perform xclamp replacement and renew the heat transfer compound as a matter of course (plus the fact I'm being paid for it, so it has to last!) but I'm just relaying my findings on this.
By north-east and north-west, I'm looking at the box from the front, light ring pointing towards you, case open and dvd drive out of the way.
Hope this helps anyone
Post by: mpphotographics on November 15, 2007, 04:15:00 PM
QUOTE(FrederickUK @ Nov 13 2007, 10:20 PM)
I've fixed two 0020 360's and I'm quietly confident that it's the north-east corner of the GPU lifting from the board. I've done xclamp replacement on both of the boxes and it's been that particular corner that's needed a quarter turn more pressure before the box boots back into life.
I've got an 0102 box infront of me at the minute, and that one has responed to pressure on the north-west corner of the GPU (all I did was move the dvd drive out the way, press down north-west of the gpu heatsink and it booted up straight away.
I'm still going to perform xclamp replacement and renew the heat transfer compound as a matter of course (plus the fact I'm being paid for it, so it has to last!) but I'm just relaying my findings on this.
By north-east and north-west, I'm looking at the box from the front, light ring pointing towards you, case open and dvd drive out of the way.
Hope this helps anyone
Hi Frederick!
Do you offer a repair service or are you just doing it for a freind?
My 360 has error code 0102 too but i've already sent it to somebody on ebay a few months ago. He did the xclamp thing and it's worked well since until now. I overheated it with the towels and it worked for about 30 minutes so it must be some sort of warping or solder problem. Do you think it could still be fixed again?
I have also seen the error message E79 a couple of times.
Any help or advice is much appreciated
Mark.
Post by: sowa99 on November 19, 2007, 08:08:00 AM
1000- Kernel can't be launched/signature in NAND Flash chip is broken! I gues it could be possible after bad update.
How I found this?
I change few bytes in CF section and i got this error.
Here is picture with red ring: LINK
Sowa
I'll search for more after timming attack
Post by: jager673 on November 22, 2007, 09:43:00 PM
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Post by: d_rugs420 on November 23, 2007, 06:12:00 PM
When I power on my 360 the top left bank goes green. Then the bottom right goes red. Then both lights on the left start flashing red. Its not overheating because its doing it right away when I power it on. I was getting 3rlod with 0102 and tried the x-clamp replacement. No longer the 3rlod but now 2rlod. Anyone know what this might be?
UPDATE: I adjusted some screws and the left bank stopped flashing. I now get e65 with only bottom right bank flashing. According to this thread its some kind of dvd drive problem. I will try to figure it out. It was working fine until the 3rlod but it did make a loud noise when it froze and went to 3rlod.
This post has been edited by d_rugs420: Nov 24 2007, 02:26 AM
Post by: d_rugs420 on November 23, 2007, 07:55:00 PM
Post by: Refferehtom on December 06, 2007, 08:58:00 PM
This afternoon I started it up, was tooling around the new dash and it locked up on me, I rebooted and got the 3 ROD!
Rebooted a couple of times and finally got it working, only for a few minutes though, kept locking up on me.
If i remove the HDD, it boots up fine and I can keep it on for a while with no problems and no red lights flashing. As soon as i put the HDD back on, it locks up and flashes.
It's sounds like a HDD problem to me but when I look up the secondary error code, I get 0102. It says it's a GPU problem, not an HDD problem!?!
What I want to know is, can I go out and get another HDD and try swapping it with the one I have? Is there any way of keeping or transferring all my saves to the new HDD or am I just SOL?
Cant send it in for repair as it's been opened and flashed.
I also have the Blaster360 NE installed, I know it's connected correctly because I put in on there over 2 months ago, my problems just started a couple of days ago.
Thanks for any help......................
Post by: Koolio12 on December 13, 2007, 11:02:00 PM
Post by: DCP on December 14, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
DCP
Post by: huugie on December 17, 2007, 02:23:00 PM
Hallo,
Had error code 0020 blank screen and three red lights flashing, went bought heat gun and disassemble unit and started heating not sure as to what I was doing as videos have been removed but didn't have any thing to lose, heated board until it was too hot to touch then allowed it to cool down and to my surprised it works like new Just want to thank everyone for all the help
here the howto video!!
http://www.freepler....air_gun_fix.mpg
and another link of this video, view it at YouTube.com's site!!
1/1/07 Edit: Link to video, hosted by Google.
PS: I cannot guarantee that it will also work on your xbox360, but hey! it's the last chance to bring your console back to life!!!
Post by: setoromero on December 17, 2007, 04:59:00 PM
Please help?
Post by: LarsPT on December 18, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
I'm also getting the E74 with error code 1022. I heard it showed a "blue screen of death" while playing CoD4 before it died (I wasn't even the one playing with the damn thing). I have two different cables, one to play on my TV and another to play on my computer screen (a VGA cable), and none of them seem to work. If I disconnect the console long enough and try it again the green lights combo shows, but I get no sound and no image. If I turn it off and try again I get the error again.
What would you have me do?
Do you think I'm screwed?
If nothing works, should I even bother buying a new one, or should I just save and buy a PS3?
Best regards!
LarsPT
Post by: dblue on December 18, 2007, 08:45:00 PM
If you shorted out the 5V on the 360 for some reason, and now your 360 has the error 0001 or 0002 (psu error), and using a different brick does not fix it, i have a *now confirmed working* fix:
The two MOSFETs circled in blue must be replaced.
The part number is NTD60N02RG:
http://www.onsemi.co...do?id=NTD60N02R
I posted the fix a while ago, but it was untested, but Smartmod has repaired his motherboard by replacing the FETs, so the repair is now confirmed working.
will you be making a youtube video of this fix. because i have error 0002 and need to fix it
Post by: Mk.0 on December 20, 2007, 05:45:00 PM
Post by: sowa99 on December 21, 2007, 09:32:00 AM
) console work.. But, i booted it second time and get one diode.. Checked the code and it was 1033.. I rebooted it and work fine..So i think it 'could' be gpu/cpu error (need confirmed, i'll check it
) OR psu problem (?)..
Post by: Cobra11Murderer on December 28, 2007, 05:27:00 PM
i restarted the xbox360 and nothing came up on screen.... but i could hear sound, also every once in a while i hear something (like a snap or a click that comes from in side the xbox its self)
and then on the 27 (afternoon) the 3RROD came up to stay, i found out in the last hours of reading this forum that the error code is 0102
and now the red ring's wont go they just stay and blink at me (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
ill post a video for yah
Post by: Cobra11Murderer on December 28, 2007, 07:19:00 PM
Here is my 0102 XBOX360
my warranty is up so im planing on opening it up
http://youtube.com/watch?v=6ycVTeULnIA
This post has been edited by Cobra11Murderer: Dec 29 2007, 03:20 AM
Post by: lmastercheifl on December 30, 2007, 11:57:00 AM
I previously had the 0020 error which I've fixed 6 months ago with a towel.
Post by: KRQKAN on January 07, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: gaz69 on January 08, 2008, 01:50:00 PM
ps i am in the uk
Post by: Chris583 on January 08, 2008, 10:28:00 PM
I tried tightening and loosening screws on the gpu and cpu, but to no success.
Tommorow I will try only using nylon washer on gpu instead of nylon, than metal washer under gpu above mobo. Also might try penny mod fix.
Anyone have any other suggestions? Really want to get 360 working so i can start playing COD4 which I havent been able to play yet! Thanks!
Post by: Chris583 on January 09, 2008, 04:00:00 PM
i turn it back and get the same error i got after doing lawdawg the first time 0020, than i turned it on again and the error code changed to the 0022 error which is CPU. Any idea of how to fix...i am sure it cool enough but apparently there is a bad connection wit cpu could it be screws too tight? or too much too little AS5? I noticed some of the AS5 was smudge of the main chip towards some of the metallic things that surround the chip cover.
also it seems to jump between 0020 or 0022 errors on differant boot ups depending how cool it is
edit last 3 bootups are back to 0020
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Post by: Chris583 on January 09, 2008, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: pricemeista33 on January 09, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
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Post by: absami on January 10, 2008, 11:07:00 AM
Post by: Doomeh1 on January 11, 2008, 06:30:00 PM
BTW: I have never opened my 360 so I suppose if no fix I must send it in.
Post by: Xbox Player on January 12, 2008, 09:52:00 AM
Post by: trickeymicky on January 12, 2008, 03:23:00 PM
Ps. i don't know what a cpu or gpu is or even how to open my 360
This post has been edited by trickeymicky: Jan 12 2008, 11:38 PM
Post by: Doomeh1 on January 13, 2008, 07:59:00 PM
QUOTE(trickeymicky @ Jan 12 2008, 05:23 PM)
I bought my 360 when it first came out and it's been working fine until today, i get home from work turn it on to play and get the 3rrod error code 0020 i don't have the extra warrenty and am not good with fixing stuff myself what should i do
Ps. i don't know what a cpu or gpu is or even how to open my 360
Considering your level of intelligence, there is no way in hell that you can or will ever fix your XBOX 360, send it in to Microsoft and they will do the rest.
Post by: Grim187 on January 15, 2008, 01:53:00 AM
Post by: TechNoApe2k7 on January 18, 2008, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(manh @ Dec 21 2006, 04:23 PM)
The Toothpick TRULY does work, give it a try people
Yup! The 'toothpick' method work's a charm (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
My UK launch day 360 went tit's up on Monday of this week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/grr.gif)
It had already been banned from live, however I use it all the time to play my backups as I didn't want to fubar my Elite and get that banned from live.
Anyways, I got the 3RROD with the error 0102 and after much, much reading I decided the best option was to try the easiest solution first. Then if that didn't work progress until the method used works or I run out of options.
Well, just wanted to confirm that the first method I used is this 'toothpick' one. I used four 'flat bladed' toothpicks, switched on, got 3RROD (just as with most x-clamp methods). So I left it on for about 20 mins, re-booted and it worked fine and has been all week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif).
Am going to replace the fans next and see how long it lasts before I try anything else - if it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Post by: hazed69 on January 18, 2008, 11:28:00 PM
Post by: TOWNEND9 on January 19, 2008, 05:43:00 AM
Post by: xbox360_720 on January 20, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
Post by: AbuseTheElderly on January 20, 2008, 08:41:00 PM
Post by: Red_Light on January 21, 2008, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: FortunaEnterprises on January 24, 2008, 02:00:00 PM
Code 0020 and Code 0102 are the most likely to work with compound replacement
Code 0020 is more likely to work then code 0102
Code 0110 turns into 0022 when compound replaced buy why? (Tried on 4 units)
(Guessing) Code 0110 and 0022 is an issue with airflow in the unit.
Havent fixed any yet but others online fixed 0110 with airflow mod.
(Research Says) Code 0021 is a time out issue with the Drive (havent fixed any yet)
Anyone know what Code 0021 and Code 0103 is?
If you get any with ERROR 67, 68, 69 tri swapping out the Hard Drive
ERROR 74 Code 1022 is a problem with the "ANA" or "HANA" chip has anyone found a fix yet?
Information on Other Problems
* No Video Output Make sure your switch on the AV cable is on the right setting
TV or HDTV. Sometimes this helps. We do get some with this issue where this doesnt help. We know the cable is good. Does anyone have a fix?
* Will Not Power On. - Try without the faceplate on. Sometimes the power button is jammed in and keeps you from turning the unit on.
* Bad Tray Tri using a needle in the CD Drive pinhole. Sometimes just doing this a couple of times will fix the door for good. Also helps with getting the disc out.
* White screen says put disc in 360 can be caused if you swap drives around from multiple units. Its possible to be fixed but looks like a pain in the but.
Purple screen says something about the hard drive what is this? Dashboard says unplayable disc or doesnt recognize disc is in unit no fix found yet. Are there any codes that can be fixed by holding the sync button when you turn the power on? Clear Any Failed system updates ---------------------------------------------We sell our broken ones on overstock.com auctions starting at just 99 cents under our name of fortunainc and we also sell them off on our website www.fortunaliquidations.com if you guys need more parts.
Post by: MacDrunk on January 25, 2008, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: sowa99 on January 28, 2008, 03:51:00 AM
QUOTE
ERROR 74 Code 1022 is a problem with the "ANA" or "HANA" chip has anyone found a fix yet?
There could be problems with ana/hana swap because these chips are "per box". They are married with flash and flash is marriend wich CPU..Anyway, I think it's not problem with ana/hana at all.. I had few consoles with E74/1022 codes and in EVERY boxes it had problem with GPU.. Yup, xclamp work for me, so try it first..
PS. Now, I'll search for possible fix for errors:
-0001
-0002
-0003
I have few ideas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Regards, Sowa
This post has been edited by sowa99: Jan 28 2008, 11:55 AM
Post by: sowa99 on January 30, 2008, 04:34:00 AM
0011 - CPU Overheating
0012 - GPU Overheating
0013 - RAM Overheating
0030 - Problem with temp. control
Post by: chevellecrazy600 on January 31, 2008, 06:40:00 PM
Post by: dimpelman on February 01, 2008, 03:32:00 AM
When i push the on button, i immediatly hear the dvd making a loud sound, so i still think its the dvd player. I tried to generate the secondary (hidden) error codes, but it didnt responded to it.
Anybody can confirm that its the dvd player? Looks like it i think?
Post by: sowa99 on February 01, 2008, 06:53:00 AM
QUOTE
E71: possibly a dashboard update error, Check below in the "Console Reset Codes" for instructions. If that does not work there is no other solution and the console must be sent back to MS for repair.
Hm, it's pretty clear that timing attack will work for this error.. Too bad, I haven't console with E71.. But, maybe I can get it with infectus and hex editor hehe So need to be confirmed
Post by: catatronix on February 06, 2008, 08:40:00 PM
QUOTE(AbuseTheElderly @ Jan 20 2008, 11:17 PM)
Hi, I recently got the 3RLOD with a secondary error code of 0020 and all I had to do to fix it was open the case, unhook the fans and turn it on. Once It started over heating (switched to the two left lights) i set it infront of a space heater about 6 inches away with the heater on high for about 15 minutes. Immediately after that I shut it down plugged the fans back in and powered it back on and the problem was solved. Played a game on it with no problems. im guessing its just a cold solder joint somewhere. Hope this helps someone. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
I do the thermal paste over and all is well, it is kind of labor intense to remove all those screws, and the X-clamp can be a little tricky at times.
QUOTE(dimpelman @ Feb 1 2008, 06:08 AM)
Going crazy here :-) 3 weeks ago my dvd player (samsung) started to give errors (open tray error codes), it wa completely out of the blue, used it without problems for 2 years. Then after a week it suddenly dissapeared. Till yesterday, cause then i received the first ROD ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) leds 1,3 and 4 where blinking red. So i tried everything, open the 360, reconnected the dvd player etc etc. Didnt help, tried for like 1 hour to let it run fine again, but no green led (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) the, after 2 hours it suddenly went on without an problem! but when wanted to start a game, it tried to read the dvd and it froze... I went mad LOL :-)
When i push the on button, i immediatly hear the dvd making a loud sound, so i still think its the dvd player. I tried to generate the secondary (hidden) error codes, but it didnt responded to it.
Anybody can confirm that its the dvd player? Looks like it i think?
You are on your way to getting the :(leds 1,3 and 4 blinking red; it will work for couple more time and then you might get e74 error, then 3 red lights....I have seen it one too many times.
QUOTE(sowa99 @ Jan 28 2008, 06:27 AM)
There could be problems with ana/hana swap because these chips are "per box". They are married with flash and flash is marriend wich CPU..
Anyway, I think it's not problem with ana/hana at all.. I had few consoles with E74/1022 codes and in EVERY boxes it had problem with GPU.. Yup, xclamp work for me, so try it first..
PS. Now, I'll search for possible fix for errors:
-0001
-0002
-0003
I have few ideas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Regards, Sowa
You need to do X-clamp work on the GPU side, i ran into some of those bad boys.
QUOTE(TOWNEND9 @ Jan 19 2008, 08:19 AM)
can anyone help. i have E74. what do i do?
GPU...need X-Clamp work....
Post by: Wilhelm_I on February 09, 2008, 10:14:00 AM
It had the error 0022 and it works now...
I did the x-clamp replacement turned it back on still 0022...
So I overheated it(fans plugged out) let it cool down for 30 minutes and after that it worked again
Thanks for this tutorial
I hope this helps these who got 0022 as I didnt find a single guy who reported this to be working when I used the search function
Post by: gotskunk on February 09, 2008, 11:07:00 AM
As I said before I did the x-clamp replacement and the baking trick along with it. The system worked fine for almost a week then I was playing COD4 and started getting black spots on the screen. If I switched to night vision the spots turned red.
Anyone have any info that could help me?
Thanks
Post by: jayceonblaze on February 15, 2008, 02:47:00 PM
Post by: jayceonblaze on February 15, 2008, 06:31:00 PM
Post by: Cyclone112 on February 17, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
it seems random, my xbox freezes within 20 seconds of it being on or within half an hour. it can happen in the dashboard or while playing a game(ive tried multiple games). it does it with the harddrive in and with it out. half the time the freeze is accompanied by a large screech that lasts less then a second but not every time. i dont get any red rings and when i reset i get no error codes or anything.
so thats all i can think of thats important for now, any help would be greatly appreciated.
Post by: Cyclone112 on February 17, 2008, 03:03:00 PM
Post by: littlehelperdude on February 18, 2008, 04:49:00 PM
Again this is for error code 0102
Let your Xbox360 3 ROD run for about 10 to 15 minutes.
Then turn it off and turn it back on quickly, it might boot up.
Mine does (almost) everytime.
I'm guessing this works because you heat eather your GPU or CPU back in contact with the motherboard. Rebooting with your xbox 360 while heated up might allow it to function properly for a few days if left turned on (not recommended).
(This has only been tested with my box giving the 3 red lights error 0102 and should not be taken too seriously)
This post has been edited by littlehelperdude: Feb 19 2008, 12:53 AM
Post by: kalle_19 on February 19, 2008, 03:48:00 AM
Post by: romanlynch on February 20, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
i had the ring of death, did the "fix" and added the pennies under the RAM chips, and it worked for 5 months and then i got it again. this time tho when i did everything again, and i did the washer mod, i just get the 2 bottom lights flashing. i found this site and saw that i should check the heatsinks to make sure they are tight on the cpu and gpu chips. i took it apart again and looking at it it looks like the heatsinks are touching, i tighten everything up as tight as i think proper but i still get the code 11.
what am i doing wrong?
Post by: jayceonblaze on February 22, 2008, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: Kasil on February 23, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
EDIT: It's actually E68... Voltage error. What's wrong?
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Post by: dirty.ranja on February 27, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
This post has been edited by dirty.ranja: Feb 27 2008, 08:10 PM
Post by: Wilhelm_I on February 27, 2008, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE(gotskunk @ Feb 9 2008, 07:43 PM)
my 360 crapped out about a month ago. Got the E74 1022 error. I tried the x-clamp fix last saturday and had it working again but it just died on me again today. Same error codes. Is there anything else I can do to bring it back to life again?
As I said before I did the x-clamp replacement and the baking trick along with it. The system worked fine for almost a week then I was playing COD4 and started getting black spots on the screen. If I switched to night vision the spots turned red.
Anyone have any info that could help me?
Thanks
I had 0022 after x-clamp replacement it worked fine went back to 0022 after a minute overheating the cpu brought it back to live and after a few hours of gameplay it got 1022 so I cooled the cpu as I kept getting 0011 when I overheated however I cooled the cpu so that the gpu overheated 0012(took me almost 20 minutes) since then it works fine for 3 weeks already no artifacts or what so ever...
To keep it alive I am running the fans on 12V, did the fanshroudmod, added a case fan and installed small heatsinks on the RAM, southbridge and ANA-chip
I hope this helps...
This post has been edited by Wilhelm_I: Feb 27 2008, 09:43 PM
Post by: haris2887 on March 13, 2008, 01:54:00 AM
Post by: manxbox44 on March 13, 2008, 11:55:00 AM
QUOTE(haris2887 @ Mar 13 2008, 09:30 AM)
I can Confirm That 0020 Is Bad Solder(dry joint) ON the Ram Chips......
can this be fixed? does it mean the ram chips are gone for good?
Post by: sowa99 on March 13, 2008, 11:49:00 AM
It's FOR SURE dvd drive problem. frong firmware/dvd time out? I don't know exactlu but it's problem with dvd for 100% (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
This post has been edited by sowa99: Mar 13 2008, 06:49 PM
Post by: Refferehtom on March 17, 2008, 08:32:00 PM
First error code was 0102, x-clamp solved it but it would occasionally freeze about 5 minutes into a game, after a reboot, i was cool to play for 3-4hrs a day.
Thanks
P.S. anyone ever consider sending their box to 360-pros.com and have them fix it? I bought a dead system off of ebay and can't get that one to work for the life of me, I've gotten a few to work before but this one is being a bitch. I'd like feedback to see how their service is.
Post by: fuckdead on March 19, 2008, 05:17:00 PM
i have the 0021error..
I already disconnected the drive and i still having the same error...
So do you think that da X-clamp metod, will fix my 360 ?
Anyone are in the same sittuacion???? i already replaced the thermal paste, and didnt work...
Sorry my english....
Post by: Wilhelm_I on March 20, 2008, 04:05:00 AM
QUOTE(fuckdead @ Mar 20 2008, 12:53 AM)
hi guys...
i have the 0021error..
I already disconnected the drive and i still having the same error...
So do you think that da X-clamp metod, will fix my 360 ?
Anyone are in the same sittuacion???? i already replaced the thermal paste, and didnt work...
Sorry my english....
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=538430
Post by: uberwoot on March 22, 2008, 05:56:00 PM
Post by: ausmods on March 24, 2008, 12:31:00 AM
Post by: kellerversa on March 24, 2008, 03:54:00 AM
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Post by: billy091 on March 26, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
Post by: baltazor on March 26, 2008, 09:50:00 PM
QUOTE(FarCue @ Apr 4 2007, 02:14 PM)
Today, I tried to boot up my system, and encountered the following problem:
1) the central symbol on the power button lights up (normal yellowish green color)
2) the 4 surrounding rings that used to always swirl around no long do so
3) No image nor sound is present. I've tripled checked and confirmed that the av cables are properly plugged in
4) The disc drive is still ejectable (putting a disc in has no effect)
5) Pressing the tiny white button used to interface with the wirless controller is a fruitless affair
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
1) the central symbol on the power button lights up (normal yellowish green color)
2) the 4 surrounding rings that used to always swirl around no long do so
3) No image nor sound is present. I've tripled checked and confirmed that the av cables are properly plugged in
4) The disc drive is still ejectable (putting a disc in has no effect)
5) Pressing the tiny white button used to interface with the wirless controller is a fruitless affair
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
Appearantly we are the only 2 persons who have dealed whit this issue reading through all 46 pâges here
for the rest its code this or code that i read!!
I on the other hand have always managed to get it to boot succesfully the second time when i turned on my box again. That has been the case from DAY 1 when i bhought the dreaded box and still is as of today, proximate 1 year and more old by now!!
It started whit the on and off x2 yoyo annoyance from the verry beginning when i bhougt that system wich leads me to believe that m$ sends refurbished boxes to local stores wich they sell as new units
Then a few months ago i started to have E74 errors frequently and ive ignored it, since it woud boot/ startup every time in a second attempt no problems. Untill an few weeks ago i got the 3 Rings of Destruction, so i wos llike FUCK M$ and either apply the x-clamp fix myself or kick the box from 10 high downwards rather then to re-send it to m$ after all the sshit ive put up whit.
So, few weeks ago i appearantly succeeded to fix the 3 RROD permanently as my box still does it thing.
But iam still unable to solve that startup annoyance like i have had from the verry beginning when it was new and innocent
SO? WOTS THE DEAL WHIT THAT !! No , sounds, no video, no red rings, no GREEN rings for that matter, just the green light in the middle (me thinks power led) !!! I checked my psu, and it led GREEN alright!!?
I know wot most of u think VIDEO CABLE , well gues wot i borrowed an cable from a friend wich never have had E74 errors or other related issues that might be the cause of A "bad" video cable. And that startup problem still ocured !!!!!!
So, i think i speak for farcue and myself when i say thats one nasty MISTERY on our hands!!
baltazor,
Post by: veekay on March 27, 2008, 12:07:00 PM
Of course as soon as I post that and try again it starts up. Getting so tired of taking this thing apart. Had I not paid a small fortune for this when they first came out I would long have moved on.
QUOTE(baltazor @ Mar 26 2008, 09:26 PM)
Appearantly we are the only 2 persons who have dealed whit this issue reading through all 46 pâges here
for the rest its code this or code that i read!!
I on the other hand have always managed to get it to boot succesfully the second time when i turned on my box again. That has been the case from DAY 1 when i bhought the dreaded box and still is as of today, proximate 1 year and more old by now!!
It started whit the on and off x2 yoyo annoyance from the verry beginning when i bhougt that system wich leads me to believe that m$ sends refurbished boxes to local stores wich they sell as new units
Then a few months ago i started to have E74 errors frequently and ive ignored it, since it woud boot/ startup every time in a second attempt no problems. Untill an few weeks ago i got the 3 Rings of Destruction, so i wos llike FUCK M$ and either apply the x-clamp fix myself or kick the box from 10 high downwards rather then to re-send it to m$ after all the sshit ive put up whit.
So, few weeks ago i appearantly succeeded to fix the 3 RROD permanently as my box still does it thing.
But iam still unable to solve that startup annoyance like i have had from the verry beginning when it was new and innocent
SO? WOTS THE DEAL WHIT THAT !! No , sounds, no video, no red rings, no GREEN rings for that matter, just the green light in the middle (me thinks power led) !!! I checked my psu, and it led GREEN alright!!?
I know wot most of u think VIDEO CABLE , well gues wot i borrowed an cable from a friend wich never have had E74 errors or other related issues that might be the cause of A "bad" video cable. And that startup problem still ocured !!!!!!
So, i think i speak for farcue and myself when i say thats one nasty MISTERY on our hands!!
baltazor,
Post by: baltazor on March 27, 2008, 01:24:00 PM
QUOTE(veekay @ Mar 27 2008, 07:43 PM)
Getting so tired of taking this thing apart. Had I not paid a small fortune for this when they first came out I would long have moved on.
Its indeed quite some ordeal whit those m$-boxes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
And the same here, i paid TO^O much for such an flaky systeem and therefor rather throw that piece of crapp of an building 20 floors high then to return it to m$. Who are verry happy to fix it for an small fee *cough$*
This is my first xbox (never have had xbox1) AND it will be my ONLY xbox system.
And i think i speak for allot poeple when i say that. That dissapointed am i.
Always have had nintendo, sega, then PSone and so one... Never ever have had issues whit it NEVER EVER!!
So in that matter PS ruled and still RULES , statistics will proof me right intime . I bet my whole fortune on that.
Baltazor,
Post by: IBYCFOTA on March 27, 2008, 10:07:00 PM
Post by: Rakunko on March 28, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
i had a 3rrod error that was translated into the 0102 error
!) i did the "penny mod"
solved my 3rrod issue yet created a 2 RROD that was error 0021
2)after running my console on with out the fan (the more advance towel glitch)
it didnt work also
3)i did the heat gun (i used a very high end blow dryer a Conair 1975 with a 1875 W power others have had success with a 1500W)
4) i got a new error code 0011 like wtf man cmon?! *thank god i was on spring break to dedicate this much time*
5)i tried other cooling mods since 0011 is a over heating error
6)i re-installed the dreaded xclamps on the cpu and un screwed all the silver screws and only have four gpu heat sink screws holding it all together.
summary:
0011 can be fixed with a blowdryer and ONLY screwing in the gpu screws
downside:
youll need to add in the xclamp mod to the gpu and add in arctic silver 5 for it to run at 100%
*itll hicup every few minutes and your fan will be very loud (your fan trying to cool down the gpu* (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
note: if anyone needs a full directions on the 0011 fix pm me ^^
This post has been edited by Rakunko: Mar 29 2008, 02:46 AM
Post by: sowa99 on March 30, 2008, 02:59:00 PM
QUOTE
Today, I tried to boot up my system, and encountered the following problem:
1) the central symbol on the power button lights up (normal yellowish green color)
2) the 4 surrounding rings that used to always swirl around no long do so
3) No image nor sound is present. I've tripled checked and confirmed that the av cables are properly plugged in
4) The disc drive is still ejectable (putting a disc in has no effect)
5) Pressing the tiny white button used to interface with the wirless controller is a fruitless affair sad.gif
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
Well.. I had exactly that same problem but after fun with infectus.. In theory if flash is broken there should be 3rrod but...1) the central symbol on the power button lights up (normal yellowish green color)
2) the 4 surrounding rings that used to always swirl around no long do so
3) No image nor sound is present. I've tripled checked and confirmed that the av cables are properly plugged in
4) The disc drive is still ejectable (putting a disc in has no effect)
5) Pressing the tiny white button used to interface with the wirless controller is a fruitless affair sad.gif
Can anyone hear diagnose my problem or perhaps offer some potential solutions?
Thanks in advance
So I think it COULD be problem with system files/kernel sections.. But as I said.. it could be..
Post by: muncale on April 01, 2008, 03:38:00 AM
(/)(\)
(\) / - this 4th one blinking...I checked the code and it was 1001...
After that i tried to start it more 5-6 times but with no luck...I left the console and after around 2 hours I started it again and it didn`t show the error... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) Later night i decide to try again this time with Fifa 2008...The match started normally but while one of the goal replays it froze again...And since then (last night) it has been showing this E 64 Error...Although my dvd its even making noise/rowing when I turn on the Xbox, like its not there...
So any ideas about that ?!
Oh and i am not sure but just to ask...Should there be any epoxy or something over the second largest chip (with the metal rectangle in the middle) ?
And sry for my bad english...
This post has been edited by muncale: Apr 1 2008, 10:48 AM
Post by: sowa99 on April 01, 2008, 10:49:00 AM
Try put it manualy into modeb and recover it into original state.. This will tell us this is problem with firmware or hardware..
QUOTE
Oh and i am not sure but just to ask...Should there be any epoxy or something over the second largest chip (with the metal rectangle in the middle) ?
No, epoxy is only over TSOP and part of this center processor
Post by: skippie1969 on April 02, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
I'm new here and just got a 360 off of ebay thinking I could fix it, I did the x clamp mod, and the over heating mod, after putting it back together I still got the 3 rings, I got code 0020, after messing with it for 2 days I found if I loosen the screws on the GPU I get code 0021, tighten them I get 0020.... any idea;s?
Skippie
After posting this I thought I'd try and find the sweet spot between the codes..(play with the screws to hopfully get it to boot) when I got close to where it should be I get code 0022
Now I'm really confused....
This post has been edited by skippie1969: Apr 3 2008, 04:14 AM
Post by: The Duke 85 on April 07, 2008, 02:33:00 PM
why is that? anybody get that before?
Post by: chevellecrazy600 on April 08, 2008, 11:00:00 AM
QUOTE(jfishel @ Jul 16 2006, 05:32 AM)
i followed your advice and used a heat gun on my bga ram chips and southbridge as well. the first run i used a fairly low temp and a quick try proved correct. it powered on and made it to the dashboard. roughly 3-5 minutes later, it froze. that simply backs up the theory about the ram chips being poorly attached and/or poor quality chips.
IMHO, from the behavior the system exhibits, many 0102 failures are due to bad RAM or RAM that was damaged by exposure to heat. Try to think about this more from a planar point of view and less of a console. when a motherboard fails to POST, we tend to trouble shoot Physical Damage->BIOS->RAM->CPU (in no particular order). once you've ruled out physical damage and since in this case there is no adjustments to be made to the bios, RAM/CPU are the next logical areas to troubleshoot. by simply looking at the design of the heatsink for the GPU, it should be fairly obvious that there is indeed a heat problem where the chips located under the heatsink are exposed to higher temps w/o any benefit of the heat sink just milimeters above it. personally, i'm going to send mine back to MS and get a refurb. i'm curious to see if anyone has chopped off their GPU heatsink to expose the ram chips below, and added a fan to it. Even adding some sort of heatsinks for the remaining RAM chips exposed on the top of the planar like the ones referred to in the above post. Anyone wanna give that a shot and post the results?
i tried using 2 cpu heatsinks on one of my boxes and it just gave me the 2 red lights for overheating right away. so just the gpu was covered not the other 2 chips next to it under the origional heatsink.
Post by: The Duke 85 on April 09, 2008, 12:38:00 AM
QUOTE(The Duke 85 @ Apr 7 2008, 02:09 PM)
i have the error code 0021, but without the DVD drive its 0020
why is that? anybody get that before?
?
Post by: Mortician607 on April 09, 2008, 11:13:00 AM
QUOTE(jayceonblaze @ Feb 23 2008, 12:39 AM)
Im getting an E68 but only when my hard drive is in. when i take it out it works fine. I assume that something is wrong with my hard drive, but it says its a voltage problem. Anyone have an idea as to what the problem may be?
I dunno. I started having the exact same problem the other day and now I have the ring of death and a 0020 code. It all started when I bought the new COD4 maps, I couldn't get them to download. It'd get to 51% and then freeze. After a few minutes it'd say that it couldn't finish the download and give me a status code of 80070185. It tried to redownload about a million times from Friday to Monday. I called xbox support. They don't know what that code means, it's supposed to have letters in it. They think it's due to too many people downloading it, just try again later or early in the morning. I did just that and then it started freezing at the logo screen. Once in a while I'd get the E-68 message on a screen with a system error message written in different languages, which means something different than E-68 in the middle of the screen all by itself. But both could be the HDD. Taking the HDD off got me to the dashboard, putting back on got me freezing and sometimes the error message. I call MS again yesterday and told the guy what was up and gave him the referance number from the day before. I mentioned that I thought that it could be the HDD and he promply told me that due to an ongoing update he couldn't do anything to start the repair process for the HDD wait a day or two and call back. And he hung up. So I tried playing around with basic troubleshooting again, unplugging everything, waiting a few, plug it all back in (memory cards and HDD included), and then it happed at about 2AM. Three flashing red lights and the 0020 code. I've tried playing around with all of the basic things again and rebooting over and over and still no luck. I guess it's dead and now I gotta call MS and see if they're willing to get the ball rolling yet, or will they make me wait a few more days until they want to take my info. I can't even get the damn thing registered on the web site inorder to get the process started. It told me that there was an error with the web site and to call customer support.
Post by: salth2olue on April 09, 2008, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(sowa99 @ Jan 28 2008, 07:27 AM)
There could be problems with ana/hana swap because these chips are "per box". They are married with flash and flash is marriend wich CPU..
Anyway, I think it's not problem with ana/hana at all.. I had few consoles with E74/1022 codes and in EVERY boxes it had problem with GPU.. Yup, xclamp work for me, so try it first..
PS. Now, I'll search for possible fix for errors:
-0001
-0002
-0003
I have few ideas
Regards, Sowa
Sowa i was wondering if you found a fix for the 0003 error?
Post by: dztheflea on April 10, 2008, 08:56:00 AM
my 360 - 20gb hd, wireless network adapter, s-video cable from gamest0p, and some japaneese ghetto ac adater brick
3rlod
first time it errored was 0102
so i did the thermal paste clean up on it then baked it, cooled it
turned it on and the video was all fuzzy
played on it anyways (portal ((fun)) )
and after about 20min it froze and i got 0102 again
baked and cooled again
played for a bit then froze again
0001
figured the ghetto brick was getting to hot, so lets just say i put an ice pack on it.... ok so i put an ice pack on it
worked for about an hour (halflife 2 (( that games really cool)) ) video is still fuzzy btw
and now im back to 0102 error
oh and i got one of those super noisy intercooler things to help cool down
anyone good at this type of thing
i mean do you think its the ghetto brick thats messing up the whole thing
and whats should i do about the fuzzy video
(must play orange box
!!! HELP ME!)
Post by: thugzee on April 10, 2008, 10:19:00 PM
Post by: finalhope on April 15, 2008, 09:16:00 PM
any help
?
Post by: gus738 on April 16, 2008, 04:00:00 AM
QUOTE(finalhope @ Apr 15 2008, 08:52 PM)
i got the 3 red lights and either im getting error code 4114 or 1144
any help ?
theirs no 4 its 0110 which is still unkown, Do you have any screen errors and # ?any help
? I got section 4 only on the RROD and a screen error of E74 i did the eject method and my code is 1022
i tried switching the cables of course that didnt do the trick my seals were broken along timea go so im assuming i can try the towel trick then hot air gun?
Post by: Wilhelm_I on April 16, 2008, 04:06:00 AM
QUOTE(gus738 @ Apr 16 2008, 12:36 PM)
theirs no 4 its 0110 which is still unkown, Do you have any screen errors and # ?
I got section 4 only on the RROD and a screen error of E74 i did the eject method and my code is 1022
i tried switching the cables of course that didnt do the trick my seals were broken along timea go so im assuming i can try the towel trick then hot air gun?
0110 is known...
it is a problem with the RAM, putting a washer on the RAM below the GPU heatsinks sometimes fixes it otherwise you will have to heatgun it...
And for E74 go here http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=646900
Post by: justmejg on April 28, 2008, 10:43:00 AM
Post by: justmejg on April 28, 2008, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: gotskunk on April 28, 2008, 02:07:00 PM
I had the E74 1022 problem and fixed it with the x-clamp and heat gun trick. But now I have created a new problem and a rather annoying one. Now the xbox bots up fine and no video problems but now the audio is out of whack. basically I am getting a buzzing noise kinda like the buzzing sound of an out of frequency radio station. The buzzing is only affected by bright colors. The brighter the colors on the screen the louder the noise gets. Just an example when playing COD4, if a flashbang blows up in my face the sound is very loud and in contrast if the screen is black you can barely hear it.
Now I havent ruled out using a different A/V cable beacuse I havent had a chance to get another one to try. The first fix I used omn my system was the x-clamp and It would only work for about a week or a few days at a time. After reading this thread I used the heat gun and it wasn't til after I used this method that I started having the audio problems.
I am wondering what component I may have heated too much and if anyone else has had this kind of problem
Thanks
Post by: gotskunk on May 01, 2008, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(gotskunk @ Apr 28 2008, 04:43 PM)
I just posted this on another thread but wanted to post here as well
I had the E74 1022 problem and fixed it with the x-clamp and heat gun trick. But now I have created a new problem and a rather annoying one. Now the xbox bots up fine and no video problems but now the audio is out of whack. basically I am getting a buzzing noise kinda like the buzzing sound of an out of frequency radio station. The buzzing is only affected by bright colors. The brighter the colors on the screen the louder the noise gets. Just an example when playing COD4, if a flashbang blows up in my face the sound is very loud and in contrast if the screen is black you can barely hear it.
Now I havent ruled out using a different A/V cable beacuse I havent had a chance to get another one to try. The first fix I used omn my system was the x-clamp and It would only work for about a week or a few days at a time. After reading this thread I used the heat gun and it wasn't til after I used this method that I started having the audio problems.
I am wondering what component I may have heated too much and if anyone else has had this kind of problem
Thanks
well forget this post. Had the wrong cable plugged into the red component slot. Everything is working as it should now.
Post by: conflict on May 02, 2008, 06:25:00 PM
Post by: midknight xrs-runner on May 03, 2008, 02:05:00 AM
went from a 0020, to a 0021, to a 0111, to a 0102. has the xclamp fix, but like i said no as5 yet.
Post by: hynde on May 05, 2008, 07:16:00 AM
Post by: LORDMASH on May 12, 2008, 05:21:00 AM
Post by: Wilhelm_I on May 12, 2008, 05:48:00 AM
QUOTE(Onimu @ May 5 2008, 03:46 AM)
Hi, my xbox360 show up with Error code E 74 in screen. I tried with different cables from friend and even bought one from GameStop can't seems to fix problem. Should i treat it as Error code 0102 will fix the problem instead? If so, what's lastest X-clamp X-clamp work the best? Linky will be appreciate
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=646900
Post by: sowa99 on May 15, 2008, 10:06:00 AM
Post by: Wilhelm_I on May 17, 2008, 03:46:00 AM
QUOTE(hnp007 @ May 17 2008, 07:37 AM)
Hi guys,
I had the rrod on my XBOX, opened it up and did the xclamp, now it 's only show 2 light (D1 and D2) but no video though.
My question is what is the error code for the 2 light? and how do you find the error codes?
Thanhs
Well to find out how to get the error code go to the first page of this topic
2 lights is overheating and as you did the X-Clamp fix you have either used too many washers or you applied too much thermal compound(size of a rice grain should be enough, also make sure that you spread it out evenly with a creditcard or something because the finer the layer the better it conducts the heat...).
The heatsink is not making good contact with the chip die...
Post by: letsmod on May 17, 2008, 10:06:00 PM
E-64 is also a SATA failure !!!!!! I have a MB no drive at all gets E-64
Post by: sowa99 on May 18, 2008, 05:05:00 AM
If I'll put my oryginaln firmware- there is no error
Post by: rikz112 on May 20, 2008, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: sowa99 on May 20, 2008, 04:11:00 PM
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Post by: SoldierFella on May 25, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
Post by: mr_ninja on May 26, 2008, 02:58:00 AM
Post by: sho17 on May 28, 2008, 09:26:00 AM
This post has been edited by sho17: May 28 2008, 04:27 PM
Post by: The Minstrel on May 29, 2008, 08:19:00 AM
The secondary error code 0020 is described as overheating. I originally had that to begin with, and instead of tightening the heat sinks I decided to loosen them in case there was just too much bearing down on the chips, turns out I was right and it worked fine. Now, this may be because of over tightening (I had two washers in use to begin with, one on the main board and one on the screw, I now only use one on the main board) but now I'm getting error code 0110 (cold solder joint on the RAM).
Perhaps 0020 is the error code for the RAM overheating? Sorry if this has been mentioned already, but I didn't feel like taking the hour or two to read through 48 pages of topic.
If anybody else is getting error 0020, try the penny trick or something similar and see if it helps your problem.
QUOTE(mr_ninja @ May 26 2008, 09:58 AM)
My x360 got the 0102 error, but I can't get a heat gun to fix it. What should I do?
The only thing I can think of doing is the towel trick and see if it will work, and then invest in a heat gun (in Britain you can get them for about £15, so that would work out around $30-40 and besides minor differences, they all do the same job).
QUOTE(sho17 @ May 28 2008, 04:26 PM)
my xbox just gets the 3 red lights with orange light on the power supply. it doesn't post at all (no video). after turning the console on, i get the 3 lights in just a sec. So basically, the power light on the power supply turns green but after a split sec, it turns back on orange. Can someone please help me on this issue?
What's your secondary error code?
Post by: RYU81 on May 29, 2008, 09:37:00 PM
Post by: sho17 on May 30, 2008, 05:52:00 AM
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No secondary error. I believe this is a rare problem. The power button will just give me 3 red lights flashing and there is no power at all. Fans are not working as well. Usually, for 3 red lights issue, it would give you the RROD after the fans start working right? Mine is different, just gives you the RROD after pressing the power button n half a sec. At first, i thought it was the ac adapter not giving enough power to crank my console. But i tried using another PS and it's still giving me the same issue. Have any idea what could have caused this?
Post by: The Minstrel on May 30, 2008, 01:14:00 PM
Hmm... slightly out of my league, I think. Best off messaging Willhelm, he's a genius when it comes down to fixes like this. It sounds like you may have lost a capacitor, though (stab in the dark). I say that simply because it sounds like something is preventing the current from flowing as it should.
Sorry I can't be of much more help, man =/
Post by: sho17 on May 30, 2008, 07:02:00 PM
QUOTE(The Minstrel @ May 31 2008, 03:14 AM)
So am I right in thinking that you actually stop getting power to your box?
Hmm... slightly out of my league, I think. Best off messaging Willhelm, he's a genius when it comes down to fixes like this. It sounds like you may have lost a capacitor, though (stab in the dark). I say that simply because it sounds like something is preventing the current from flowing as it should.
Sorry I can't be of much more help, man =/
Yup, just getting enough power to give me 3 red lights. It tries to power up then stops because i see the PS turns green for half of a sec then turns back to orange. Ok, thanks for trying to help. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: RYU81 on May 30, 2008, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE(haris2887 @ Mar 13 2008, 11:30 AM)
I can Confirm That 0020 Is Bad Solder(dry joint) ON the Ram Chips......
how to fix it??
Post by: isaacm on June 01, 2008, 05:54:00 PM
Post by: Mr. Happy on June 05, 2008, 11:36:00 PM
0022 CPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints). This can also be triggered by an error with the TSOP.
Do i need to do the heat gun on the back of the CPU and the Southbridge??? I did the heat gun on all the ram chips and the GPU (the one under the DVD drive) and it still didnt help, anyone have this problem please let me know...
p.s. If you have a 0102 error, do some reading, the fix is in hear, dont just keep the pages rolling over and over thru 30 pages with the same damn question...
Post by: jackielegs911 on June 06, 2008, 05:01:00 AM
i've had the problem before during storms and it's usually rectified itself
but this time its just not coming back on.
Also, it did occur during a flash of lightning when half the power in my house reset.
thanks, chris
Post by: hector1229 on June 07, 2008, 08:48:00 PM
*for x clamp fix i put 4 washers on each screw underneath the mother board, two washers for the heatsink underneath the dvd drive and one washer for the other heatsink in case that info helps.
Post by: jaredt9999 on June 11, 2008, 12:00:00 PM
I have the same problem as you, but here is my experience:
- 0022 to start immediately at boot up;
- reflow the CPU and GPU BGA devices ONLY using a soldering reflow profile for silver solder and monitor the temperature via digital thermocouple (NOTE: from what I know about electronics manufacturing, you don't need to heat both sides of the PCB - reflow temperatures are always specified measuring temperature on the surface of the IC)
- clean CPU/GPU surfaces a second time and apply new thermal compound
- use lawdawg method to attach heatsinks for both CPU and GPU
RESULT:
When I boot up, only the middle green light - nothing happens. When I press the eject button for the DVD, it opens, and the RROD comes up.... fault code: 0022!!!
QUESTION:
What other TSOP devices are being referenced in the fault code definition?
It seems to me it could be that the problem on 0022 may be with solder joints on the surrounding ICs. I'm willing to try to reflow them, but if someone can tell me what components they think they are (especially focused on either CPU or GPU) I would really appreciate it.
Thanks!
QUOTE(Mr. Happy @ Jun 6 2008, 01:12 AM)
I got error 0022, and i read all 49 pages and really didnt see a fix anywhere on here...and i know what it means:
0022 CPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints). This can also be triggered by an error with the TSOP.
Do i need to do the heat gun on the back of the CPU and the Southbridge??? I did the heat gun on all the ram chips and the GPU (the one under the DVD drive) and it still didnt help, anyone have this problem please let me know...
p.s. If you have a 0102 error, do some reading, the fix is in hear, dont just keep the pages rolling over and over thru 30 pages with the same damn question... :blink:
Post by: Shonk on June 13, 2008, 06:28:00 PM
Post by: koolyoe on June 15, 2008, 05:26:00 AM
http://www.llamma.co...x-clamp_fix.htm
Because I was getting over heating issues and didnt know how to fix. After I did this I got Error 74 took it back apart and redid this. Then I get 3 red lights after about 15 secs of waitng. With only the green Light in the middle, the lights on the controller dont even spin on. But the controller will turn the 360 on, thats it. The code was 0022. Took it apart again, redid it all, now I get code 0021, and the 3 red lights come on as soon as I power 360 on...Im lost anyone have a fix for this thanks.
Basically same problem as jaredt9999, and mr.happy
Post by: Wilhelm_I on June 15, 2008, 05:37:00 AM
QUOTE(Shonk @ Jun 14 2008, 02:28 AM)
0012 is cpu overheat not gpu
No mate
0011 is CPU overheating, 0012 is GPU overheating
Post by: sowa99 on June 15, 2008, 05:04:00 PM
QUOTE
Mr. Happy,
I have the same problem as you, but here is my experience:
- 0022 to start immediately at boot up;
- reflow the CPU and GPU BGA devices ONLY using a soldering reflow profile for silver solder and monitor the temperature via digital thermocouple (NOTE: from what I know about electronics manufacturing, you don't need to heat both sides of the PCB - reflow temperatures are always specified measuring temperature on the surface of the IC)
- clean CPU/GPU surfaces a second time and apply new thermal compound
- use lawdawg method to attach heatsinks for both CPU and GPU
RESULT:
When I boot up, only the middle green light - nothing happens. When I press the eject button for the DVD, it opens, and the RROD comes up.... fault code: 0022!!!
QUESTION:
What other TSOP devices are being referenced in the fault code definition?
It seems to me it could be that the problem on 0022 may be with solder joints on the surrounding ICs. I'm willing to try to reflow them, but if someone can tell me what components they think they are (especially focused on either CPU or GPU) I would really appreciate it.
Thanks!
In almost every boxes 0022 it's problem with BGA under CPU. But this error could be caused by broken resistors around CPU also..I have the same problem as you, but here is my experience:
- 0022 to start immediately at boot up;
- reflow the CPU and GPU BGA devices ONLY using a soldering reflow profile for silver solder and monitor the temperature via digital thermocouple (NOTE: from what I know about electronics manufacturing, you don't need to heat both sides of the PCB - reflow temperatures are always specified measuring temperature on the surface of the IC)
- clean CPU/GPU surfaces a second time and apply new thermal compound
- use lawdawg method to attach heatsinks for both CPU and GPU
RESULT:
When I boot up, only the middle green light - nothing happens. When I press the eject button for the DVD, it opens, and the RROD comes up.... fault code: 0022!!!
QUESTION:
What other TSOP devices are being referenced in the fault code definition?
It seems to me it could be that the problem on 0022 may be with solder joints on the surrounding ICs. I'm willing to try to reflow them, but if someone can tell me what components they think they are (especially focused on either CPU or GPU) I would really appreciate it.
Thanks!
And there is new error from me (damn. my box had almost every error codes lol
): 0111 - I'm pretty sure this is problem with NAND Flash. Info about how to get this error soon.
Post by: Wilhelm_I on June 16, 2008, 02:08:00 AM
QUOTE(sowa99 @ Jun 16 2008, 01:40 AM)
In almost every boxes 0022 it's problem with BGA under CPU. But this error could be caused by broken resistors around CPU also..
And there is new error from me (damn. my box had almost every error codes lol
): 0111 - I'm pretty sure this is problem with NAND Flash. Info about how to get this error soon.
0022 is definitely NOT the CPU
It is a broken trace from the GPU to the ANA chip (aka E74) + a bridged solder joint under the GPU(like 0020 for example)
I have fixed 3 of these already by heatgunning the GPU -> ANA chip area and replacing the X Clamps.
Investigate better before you make people fry their CPU next time...
Post by: sowa99 on June 17, 2008, 04:41:00 AM
You can test your dump with Degraded App.
Here is my E71 dump. You can see bad block here.
Here is aslo bad block but it's found at other sector so this dump will work too.
Here is good dump. If i put it into xbox- console work fine.
QUOTE
0022 is definitely NOT the CPU
It is a broken trace from the GPU to the ANA chip (aka E74) + a bridged solder joint under the GPU(like 0020 for example)
I have fixed 3 of these already by heatgunning the GPU -> ANA chip area and replacing the X Clamps.
Investigate better before you make people fry their CPU next time...
Sorry, 0022 could be caused by completly different things. But in every consoles I had it was problem with CPU.
It is a broken trace from the GPU to the ANA chip (aka E74) + a bridged solder joint under the GPU(like 0020 for example)
I have fixed 3 of these already by heatgunning the GPU -> ANA chip area and replacing the X Clamps.
Investigate better before you make people fry their CPU next time...
Post by: mxdon2 on June 24, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
I examined the mobo and noticed 4 small resistors had been broken off on the underside of the board of the CPU and GPU, I read that it doesn't matter if a few are missing so I scraped around the broken resistors with a pin to break any shorts which might of formed.
I put it back together and unbelievably its now running sweet, its been running a game for 2 hours no problemo (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Another thing I now do is leave out all the small screws I reckon this will give the mobo room to flex when the xbox is running at a high temperature, I also totally remove the "lid" of the metal case and cut out a square to be glued on over the large heatsink to prevent it melting the case, I still haven't had one returned since I've started to do this.
Happy repairing guys, good luck (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pop.gif)
Post by: samuelint on June 24, 2008, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: owchar on June 26, 2008, 11:50:00 PM
has anyone fix this error?
Post by: owchar on June 27, 2008, 12:22:00 AM
QUOTE(owchar @ Jun 26 2008, 11:50 PM)
E76- 1030 This error deals with the Ethernet port's controller chip, a dead chip may not cause the error but removing the Ethernet controller chip does, it may also be caused by other Ethernet related problems.
has anyone fix this error?
I tried the heat gun trick and focused mostly on the Ethernet chip and it worked
At this point I dont know if its a permanent fix but at least its not giving me that error anymore I hope this helps anyone else with this error
PS. use lots of foil as there is bits of plasic the that area
Post by: ozo on June 28, 2008, 03:31:00 PM
"0020 (Not yet known, possibly overheating)"
Post by: INSIDEOFT on June 29, 2008, 11:40:00 AM
Post by: Wilhelm_I on June 30, 2008, 02:11:00 AM
QUOTE(ozo @ Jun 28 2008, 11:31 PM)
I just got an error 0020 after doing the penny trick, so it's probably something to do with ram, and not overheating.
"0020 (Not yet known, possibly overheating)"
0020 does definitely means that the solder balls of the GPU/RAM are shorting out.
Got like 2 360s that definitely proof that because the RAM is either pressed to the mainboard and the solder is leaking out and for the second I accidently lifted up one of the RAM bricks while heatgunning and the solder balls were shorting out(before it showed 0102)
I also did some trial and error on working consoles, I stuck a short thin needle under the GPU and so shortened out a couple of solder balls and it showed 0020 after that, as soon as I removed it, it worked again
Post by: josiah1992 on June 30, 2008, 09:24:00 AM
thanks in advance
Post by: Wilhelm_I on July 01, 2008, 06:32:00 AM
After rebooting it was gone
I didnt check the TV since it was turned off so I cant tell the E-code...
Must be something else than a dashboard update error though since it would be permanent otherwise and the last time I updated was 3 months ago...
Post by: deathmule bm on July 04, 2008, 01:00:00 PM
error 0110 can also be a broken trace, if anyone wants to add that to the error info list (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Post by: Reznorator on July 05, 2008, 12:33:00 AM
Post by: Egg28 on October 19, 2008, 11:43:00 PM
Anyideas on what to do.
PM me if you know what your talking about.
My seal is not broken, its a 2006 unit I think (bought on ebay) anyway to find out if its under warranty?
Thanks for the help I'm only 4 days into my xbox and its already broke.
Very unhappy
Post by: Wilhelm_I on October 20, 2008, 09:17:00 AM
QUOTE(Egg28 @ Oct 20 2008, 07:43 AM)
I have the " No Video" issue. Sound, cables all work. It did work last night for about 3 hrs then today. Same issue.
Anyideas on what to do.
PM me if you know what your talking about.
My seal is not broken, its a 2006 unit I think (bought on ebay) anyway to find out if its under warranty?
Thanks for the help I'm only 4 days into my xbox and its already broke.
Very unhappy
Only the ring of death is covered for 3 years, just call microsoft and ask, you might get lucky...
If you wanna fix it yourself here is all information that you need, E74 is pretty much the same, your 360 just doesnt recognize it yet...
http://xbox-experts.com/e/errorcode.php?e=E74
This post has been edited by Wilhelm_I: Oct 20 2008, 04:17 PM
Post by: bonzof.pl on October 20, 2008, 09:26:00 AM
error code this forum Wilhelm.
please baned from me, does not want to be here -and wilhelm
destroying the consoles
This post has been edited by bonzof.pl: Oct 20 2008, 04:37 PM
Post by: CrackHour on October 21, 2008, 03:11:00 PM
Post by: vortex193 on October 26, 2008, 06:03:00 PM
PLEASE HELP
Post by: CanadaTech on October 30, 2008, 12:23:00 PM
Post by: cllnighthalk on October 31, 2008, 11:58:00 PM
E-79 Primary code 1033 secondary code What is wrong with this Xbox 360. I probably will not get a description or suggestion for repair except send Microsoft a $100. You know you by a DVD player for $100 and it runs for years, you by a Xbox 360 for $400 and your lucky to get two years out of it. I should have know better than trust a Microsoft product. Good products at low quality.
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
Post by: iceknightbr on November 03, 2008, 12:35:00 PM
Post by: caksnoriss on November 03, 2008, 02:08:00 PM
So, my xbox broken down (3 red lights) and I thought that I can repair it by myself, because there are very much tutorials about 3 red lights of death.
I tried everything (remove xclamps and replaced with screws, cleaned CPU and GPU and put on them new thermal paste and also put eraser rubber on 4 black chips (i don't know name of them).
BUT NOTHING IS WORIKING! I still get ERROR code 0102 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
I think i tried everything, also I overheated CPU removing FAN connector... But... Nothing... Still this damn error code 0102.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Can anybody help me... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: jp35 on November 04, 2008, 08:25:00 AM
Post by: bliggyman on November 06, 2008, 02:05:00 PM
It can't be overheating because it's not getting hot.
Basically if i load up a game, i can only play for like 2 minutes (actual gameplay).
After that it just immediately switches off and two red lights start flashing. No loud noises, nothing.
I don't know what the problem could be if anyone could help out that would be great.
(I have an elite btw)
Post by: Refferehtom on November 10, 2008, 12:34:00 PM
Post by: letsmod on November 17, 2008, 03:25:00 PM
Anyway, I swapped the NIC and E-73 is gone, but now it is E-75, so I am guessing the MAC address on the NIC is registered to the bios (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) , just a guess
Post by: marxx11 on November 19, 2008, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(iceknightbr @ Nov 3 2008, 09:11 PM)
My x360 have error E80 after Fall update NXE ... have 3rl, have fixed this and runnig fine before this update ... but E80 have'nt listed ... anyone ???
Hi, re-place/re-solder R6T3 and try booting your console.
Good luck.
Post by: commander.shepard on November 20, 2008, 04:42:00 AM
My power supply works for sure as i've got 2 consoles.
Post by: JesseWikipedia on November 28, 2008, 07:12:00 PM
For the first year i had my 360 I played it vertically, then for the past two days I played it horizontally and now this I get E-74.
This is the second xbox I have gotten E-74 with.
Also, I have 0102.
What should I do?
Post by: JesseWikipedia on November 28, 2008, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(JesseWikipedia @ Nov 29 2008, 03:48 AM)
I got one red light with E-74 earlier today.
For the first year i had my 360 I played it vertically, then for the past two days I played it horizontally and now this I get E-74.
This is the second xbox I have gotten E-74 with.
Also, I have 0102.
What should I do?
EDIT: I did the towel trick not 15 minutes after I posted this, and it worked!
I played GH3 for about 20 minutes and then turned it off. then about another 20 minutes later EVEN AFTER IT COOLED DOWN I powered it up again and made it to the dashboard before I turned it off.
so yeah, towel trick worked.
Post by: AK I OVERLORD I on November 29, 2008, 11:25:00 AM
0102 Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the main board.
0103 GPU Error this is usually caused by bridged solder joints. Where the GPU connects to the mainboard. See error 0102 for more detailed information.
E67: Hard Drive Error... It could be a problem with the Hard Drive itself or a problem with the internal connection to the hard drive, Try removing the hard drive and playing without it.
E68: Voltage Error... This error means that the Xbox 360 has insufficient power to function properly. This can be caused by an error in the hard drive or the fans that make them suck up too much power, it can also be caused if you have unnecessary accessories attached to the console like an external fan unit. Attempt to remove unnecessary accessories first, and then necessary components such as the hard drive and USB devices. If you have any case mods you may want to investigate those as well.
E71: possibly a dashboard update error, Check below in the "Console Reset Codes" for instructions. If that does not work there is no other solution and the console must be sent back to MS for repair.
ill get the pic as soon as possible ok thanks AK I OVERLORD I
Post by: AK I OVERLORD I on November 29, 2008, 12:28:00 PM
ill try this one
the image will not show DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO INSERT IT INTO THE NOTE
This post has been edited by AK I OVERLORD I: Nov 29 2008, 08:34 PM
Post by: AK I OVERLORD I on November 29, 2008, 01:04:00 PM
QUOTE(Darkshot1 @ Apr 7 2006, 04:23 AM)
I'm getting the 3 red lights, and the error code is 0102, and I have no idea what's wrong. It gave me this error before, and would not turn on, but somehow fixed itself (only thing i did was plug in my mp3 player to it, but thats most likely unrelated.)
Now its doing it again and its not turning on at all. I guess i got lucky last time. It hasn't even been used for about 4 hours, and it wasn't any rigorous playing, so its not overheating. I just decided to turn it on and it did this. It also froze up earlier during Perfect Dark, might be related.
It says on this thread that 0102 is an unknown error... anyone know?
I know mate its this: 0102 Error in the "Digital Backbone" (CPU/GPU/RAM), this is usually caused by a cold solder joint between the GPU and the main board.
Post by: fyrehazard on November 29, 2008, 09:31:00 PM
1) WTF is the RAM?
and
2)What can I do!?!??!?!?!!?!?
PLEASE HELP! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
Post by: Lynas on December 01, 2008, 08:11:00 AM
Been going for a week now without fault *touch wood*
Just in time to get a HDD and 3 months of live for £20.. hahaha...
This post has been edited by Lynas: Dec 1 2008, 04:11 PM
Post by: Wilhelm_I on December 01, 2008, 08:20:00 AM
QUOTE(fyrehazard @ Nov 30 2008, 06:07 AM)
OK, I have a 0013, which is RAM overheating, they have answers for other overheatings but not RAM, so:
1) WTF is the RAM?
and
2)What can I do!?!??!?!?!!?!?
PLEASE HELP! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
-> 0013
Post by: sarah_f12 on December 05, 2008, 08:33:00 AM
Post by: the fisherman on December 06, 2008, 03:22:00 AM
Post by: Danny_Sheff on December 07, 2008, 09:59:00 AM
Thanks for reading
Post by: crxdriver on December 08, 2008, 04:13:00 PM
Thanks
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Post by: bonzof.pl on December 08, 2008, 04:48:00 PM
E71-no DVD
0103- rebaling GPU (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
This post has been edited by bonzof.pl: Dec 9 2008, 12:50 AM
Post by: bakelo on December 08, 2008, 09:57:00 PM
many thanks
Post by: checker6 on December 09, 2008, 12:39:00 AM
QUOTE(bakelo @ Dec 9 2008, 12:33 AM)
hello.. i wanna reheat the GPU and (H)ANA clip.. but i dunno where's this (H)ANA chip is.. can anyone show me?
many thanks
Locate the GPU, it is the chip straight back from the gpu towards the back of the xbox where the fans are. If you have HDMI, it will say HANA and if no hdmi then it will say ANA on the chip.
Post by: SASDave93 on December 10, 2008, 07:26:00 AM
QUOTE(accukevin @ Apr 1 2006, 08:12 PM)
Error or E 71 is a new code that seems to be popping up. Just got my 2nd 360 (prem.) today. Went home, plugged it in, and E71 pops up. Called MS - they literally said -- ".. uhmm, or yea, you are just gonna need to go ahead and send it in...". I said ya I don't think so, and returned it to Circuit City.
I had my elite and i got red ring so i exchanged it and got a new console but kept the same wiring and hdd.
i turned da new 1 on and i got e71 in the top left of my screen. so i turned it off removed hdd and setup console then put hdd back on. after this i had to keep turning the console on and off until it loaded up correctly. and when i went on vegas 2 online my game froze half way through a match like it did on the dash. so i did a maintainance check and the turned it off held the sync button in and waited until boot up and worked pretty normal. i turned it off and on a few times and was working fine. so i suggest this to you.
and whem i rang up they said to me it could be a hdd fault. so chances are they would of sent me a new hdd drive but then how do you transfer your data. but if they say send it off dont.
Post by: seed.helper on December 14, 2008, 01:30:00 PM
but Is the secundary problem
some problem with the power cable and now is solved (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)
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Post by: AtriousAvatar on December 28, 2008, 07:27:00 PM
Though the guide says to clear the system cache and failed updates, but for some reason I don't see how this is accomplished, there are no indicaters on what updates are good or bad.
So my question is would reformating the HD and setting the Xbox back to original configuration clear all of this up?
Just got a refurbed-360 pro, Worked fine untill I tried getting Live to work, Of coarse an update prompted and thus started getting the E71 error soon after.
Though the guide says to clear the system cache and failed updates, but for some reason I don't see how this is accomplished, there are no indicaters on what updates are good or bad.
So my question is would reformating the HD and setting the Xbox back to original configuration clear all of this up?
Post by: Y00p on January 02, 2009, 05:46:00 PM
Now, I have two Xbox's present of which I have no idea how to fix them:
The first, I fixed from an 0102 by replacing the x-clamps with regular screws and washers (a guy near me sells them as a kit) and also renewing the thermal paste. It worked fine for a month or two, until my little brother decided he'd try to play MotoGP. He's five, mind you, and the case was open so I would have easy access to the DVD-drive, which had been acting up. I don't know exactly what went wrong, but something happened between the time that I shut it off one night, and the time I tried to fire it back up the next day. One thing that that surely happened, is the fact that he had turn it on, tried to start MotoGP, but failed. What happens next, I have no idea. It could be anything. Long story short, it's now an 0020. I have gathered from the internet and this thread in particular, that it's pretty much a dead case. Any help on this one is appreciated though.
The second, I just bought. It was supposedly a fresh (as in, unopened) 0110. Well, it certainly was 0110, but not fresh. The first thing I noticed was that the warranty sticker was scratched and torn. Then, the actual eject-button had molten shut (I noticed it not working properly when checking for the error). The black part (it catches a screw from the case) in between the memory-card inputs was bent out of shape, and later I found that the screw was hard to turn, until it finally stripped clean. And finally, there was some tin foil STILL covering some of the transistors. I went 'Fuck me blind, I've been screwed'. Sure enough, I got the motherboard out, turned it over, and these 'things' were covering the four memory chips. I can best describe them as poster-stickers, because that's what they resembled most.
Anyway, after clearing all of the residue from a previous 'fix' (the tin foil and 'goo' covering the RAM), and fixing the eject-button so that it would actually work, I went on to a full inspection off the board. Most of it seems to be intact, still, so thank god for that. I then reassembled it, fired it up, but still the 0110. I applied my Xecuter kit (the rubber pads for the RAM chips), and I thought it was gonna work for sure, because believe it or not, the RROD actually stopped flashing sometime during warmup! Ok, so I let it cool down, reassemble, turn it on... RROD.
So far, I've tried applying some thermal paste in between the Xecuter pads and the RAM chips, but to no avail. I've also replaced the X-clamps with screws and washers, like the kit that worked for the first one, and applied some thermal paste there as well. Still nothing works. The 0110 remains. What to do?
I'm sorry for the HUGE text, but I really need some help trying to get these to work. If anyone has any idea whatsoever on getting one of them back up and running, it'd be heaps appreciated! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Regards, and thanks in advance,
Yoep
Post by: knight2000uk on January 04, 2009, 07:01:00 AM
Any help would be appreciated as its been given to me for free (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif)
Some ive managed to fix:
had one with green lights but no picture, now the best way to source what to heat with your heatgun is to use a hairdryer while its on, just waft it around the hana and the av port till the picture comes back, and then note that area, isolate it and hot gun it, its not always the hana, this one was the U2B1 chip in rail B.
a few 3 red ring machines done so far but there have been a few come in that people have hot gunned to much and the ram or resistors have come off, has anyone ever attempted to re solder any parts back on, looks like a right fiddle!
Stu
This post has been edited by knight2000uk: Jan 4 2009, 03:05 PM
Post by: ekupriets on January 05, 2009, 08:10:00 AM
0021>good working for 2 months>0021>gpu was cracked>0003
i wanna to buy xgpu from ebay and change it.but how? where i can read about reball?
and how i can treat 0003?
Post by: Rickets06 on January 05, 2009, 04:37:00 PM
Last night I was playing forza 2 (a racing sim) it wasn't installed on the HDD.
I got RockBand 1 Drums for Xmas and I usually just leave the usb cable plugged in, so if the xbox is on, so are the drums. (Maybe this has to do with the problem)
So I was playing Forza 2 with the drums connected and on for a few hours I guess and went to bed.
This morning I wanna play Rock band 2 with my Rb1 drums and I turn on the xbox and it boots to NXE like always. Once I see that Forza2 is still in I look at my xbox to eject the drive and I'm starring at 3 red flashing lights of death again (I did a xclamp replacement before to remedy ERROR 0102 and it's been going strong) so without fiddling with the controller or anything like that I go for the error code and it's 0111. I turn it off using the power button and the fan stays on for a while along with the 3RLs, and then it's completely off...
I unplug everything and I mean everything... except for the component cables in the TV. I waited for 5 or 10 minutes and started plugging stuff back in. I turn it on and wait... It seemed to take a bit longer to display the xbox animation, but it might just be my eagerness to see if my xbox is ****ed.... and well, it ran strong for about 2 minutes. (I turned it off)
...There you have it, now I'm scared a bit... Damn xbox... Hope this little bit helps. U can PM me if you have more questions.
This post has been edited by Rickets06: Jan 6 2009, 12:38 AM
Post by: xer0_cool on January 05, 2009, 09:04:00 PM
This is a follow up post to my previous one (topic : 3rl, 0020) well basically I bought a heat gun but to no avail (I even got suffocated by trying to inspect the damn thing after heating the mobo pewwww) anyway so here's the run down of what I've done so far with my box.
Initially I got 1rl-E74 error (after a good 9 months of smooth gaming, mine is a zephyr with custom fans installed) so I read through the forum and found out it was something related to the HANA/ANA chip...I did the x-clamp fix and lo and behold, it worked for a good 3 hours...tried several games and I shut it off. When I tried powering it back on, the E74 error recurred. I tried tightening and loosening the screws to no avail. I removed the screws and re-pasted the heat sinks with new thermal paste and was shocked to see the dreaded 3rl! I got the secondary error codes as 0020. From that point on I never got lucky at trying to make it go away sometimes I get a 0030 when the screws for the GPU get to tight. I try loosening them and I go back to 0020. I tried running the heat gun properly with isolation and yet I didn't get any results. What am I doing wrong? Is this thing still even fixable?
Your help will surely be appreciated, and well right now Ill try anything just to get this thing working again.
(Though I don't wanna try the towel fix coz of the horrible things that happen to people who try this. LOL)
Post by: Rickets06 on January 06, 2009, 04:21:00 PM
My HDD was very full I only had about 70MB left. That might be what was wrong.
I had a piece of paper behind the face plate to dim the leds a bit cuz I don't like bright lights when I play at night. Maybe 0111 means something is obstructing or hindering the RF waves?
One last thing... The first time this happened I used the drumset to turn the xbox on using the guide button. The 2nd time it happened I used my controller. So I'm hoping that freeing up space and removing the piece of paper will solve the problem. =)
Post by: Flameo on January 07, 2009, 11:45:00 AM
Anyway, thank you so much for this. I was clueless with what the 2 Red Lights was.
I found out I have 0013.
RAM problems.
I don't want to pay Micro$oft to fix some crap which shouldn't happen anyway in the first place.
Google is pretty much as useless as it could possibly be as well just now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
No matter where you go I cannot find a fix for the RAM overheating.
So guys, any fixes on this problem?
Or do you recommend I should just pay the money grubbers to fix it for me?...
Post by: Hardcore Gamer on January 07, 2009, 06:38:00 PM
Anyway, it was 3 red lights and before I found this thread I tried the towel trick. It worked, for about 2 minutes then the picture froze with white patterns on the screen. So after googling I found this thread and found out how to find the error code which told me it was an 0102.
I removed the fan, turned it on until the 3 red lights turned into 2 red lights which means it's overheating. Let it cool down again and it did the same as the towel trick, a few minutes working then the white patterned freeze screen. Turned it off and back on again to get the rrod again.
Then I found out that if I pressed down on the GPU heatsink it would turn on but freeze after a few seconds. It would then stay rrod until I pressed down on the GPU heatsink again. If I left it to cool then pressed down on the heatsink, I would get a few minutes before the freeze happened.
So now I'm thinking that the GPU is overheating because the heatsink isn't fitted properly. I removed the x-clamp keeping the heatsink on and found the silver thermal stuff was just a square bit of nothing really. A big hole in the middle of it, I could touch the heatsink, there was hardly any thermal stuff there.
So I cleaned it up and the gpu chip. Applied new thermal paste and put it back. I used 4 nuts I had lying about instead of the xclamp+studs and screwed the nuts in finger tight. When I turned the xbox on it was rrod but this time it was a 020 error. Heated it up again until it had 2 red lights, let it cool off, but still had the 020 error so that didn't work.
I then loosened the nuts on the heatsink and turned it on. It instantly went 2 red lights for overheating so I turned it off. I then finger tightened the nuts again then gave them a little turn loose so they weren't so tight and turned it back on.
It worked! Green lights! I've had it running 4 hours now. The most I'd seen this xbox do was 3 minutes before screen freezes but I've this CoD WaW game running hours now.
So if you're getting the 020 error, your heatsink might be on to tight. Try loosening the nuts off so they're just less than fingertight.
This xbox is an old one, it has August 2005 wrote on the inside. Foxconn.
Post by: koaten on January 14, 2009, 11:36:00 PM
Turn it back on and get E74 error, fill out a repair form on xbox, call xbox just cause i like the be a %$#@ and yell at people, the guy informs me all repairs in the first year are free, and the 3 red rings are covered for 3 years, also tells me the 1 year can be extended on the phone for 30$, box with label got here 2 days after contacting them, so im like whatever i dont wanna wait to play xbox for it to get back here, so i send mine out, borrow a friends, come to find out, theres different damn power bricks, new bricks dont fit old xbox's, well il be, if its not one thing its another...
though my bitching at the guy on the phone did get me 3 months of xbox live for free, so i do suggesting yelling a bit at M$
Also just curious if its me, or if anyone else has this problem, when my xbox was working i had my network set up so i could listen to music from my pc on my box, welll after about a month when id just go to my pc on the xbox and press play all, if i tried to skip a song it would freeze up the box on me, anyone know if this is somehow e74 related, if i just have bad luck, or if M$ is just screwed up on my box even more?
This post has been edited by koaten: Jan 15 2009, 07:39 AM
Post by: MGL242 on January 16, 2009, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(koaten @ Jan 15 2009, 02:12 AM)
had my xbox for less than 7 months, played halo 3 a bit yesterday monring, turned it off, went and took a nap as i normally do, woke up turned it on, my friends pictures were fuzzy but everything else was fine, so im just like eh whatever, put fable 2 in start it up get in game, the consol turns off
Turn it back on and get E74 error, fill out a repair form on xbox, call xbox just cause i like the be a %$#@ and yell at people, the guy informs me all repairs in the first year are free, and the 3 red rings are covered for 3 years, also tells me the 1 year can be extended on the phone for 30$, box with label got here 2 days after contacting them, so im like whatever i dont wanna wait to play xbox for it to get back here, so i send mine out, borrow a friends, come to find out, theres different damn power bricks, new bricks dont fit old xbox's, well il be, if its not one thing its another...
though my bitching at the guy on the phone did get me 3 months of xbox live for free, so i do suggesting yelling a bit at M$
Also just curious if its me, or if anyone else has this problem, when my xbox was working i had my network set up so i could listen to music from my pc on my box, welll after about a month when id just go to my pc on the xbox and press play all, if i tried to skip a song it would freeze up the box on me, anyone know if this is somehow e74 related, if i just have bad luck, or if M$ is just screwed up on my box even more?
I also got the E 74 error message. So it is either a AV cord connection problem or GPU error?
Post by: madden2001 on January 21, 2009, 04:40:00 AM
I recently became a proud member to the RRoD club, error code 0003. After reading many posts, having a spare xbox and time; I got busy.
First the symptoms;
The xbox would turn on but the fan would not. The drive would open and close. i also know that the disc drive is fine. I also tested the fan in another xbox--fine too.
Then i noticed that my power supply was turning red after turning on the 360. I used it on my good 360, it worked fine. i also used my PS from the other 360 on the bad one, it made it turn red sometimes, and others it would stay orange, but i don't believe it was ever green.
Next came a visual inspection. None of the Caps were blown and they all seemed fine, the soldering looked ok too.
I DID NOT LOOK CLOSELY AT THE MOSFETS!!!
i'll come back to this.
I found that the part connecting the board to the Power supply was gunky.. and looked like it had melted internally so i took the good one off the good 360, which was a pain in the ass.
this, however, did not solve the problem and nothing changed in the error code.
From there i figured I'd order an x-clamp because it's quick and easy... for the most part and cross my fingers.
It didn't work. I ended up selling it to someone, but if i had to bet (coming back to the I DID NOT LOOK CLOSELY AT THE MOSFETS!!! part) i missed something on the board.
IN CONCLUSION; in my case i believe if i would have looked hard enough i would have found bad soldering, or bad mosfets to be the culprit.
I found a few posts discussing it further. The second one in particular seems to be on the right track.
Hope this helps.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=628170
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/i...hp/t667978.html
This post has been edited by madden2001: Jan 21 2009, 12:44 PM
Post by: Biffaboy on January 25, 2009, 07:48:00 AM
I get 3 lights when I boot it, doesnt even show anything on the TV, then after about 30 seconds,
/ \
\ /
It goes to 2 lights.
/ \
\ /
The fan is working fine, not sure whats up with it to be honest.
Any ideas?
Post by: Biffaboy on January 25, 2009, 08:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Biffaboy @ Jan 25 2009, 03:24 PM)
Hey guy, I was wondering if any of you could help me
I get 3 lights when I boot it, doesnt even show anything on the TV, then after about 30 seconds,
/ \
\ /
It goes to 2 lights.
/ \
\ /
The fan is working fine, not sure whats up with it to be honest.
Any ideas?
Please guys I really need your help.
Post by: Millerboy3 on January 25, 2009, 08:24:00 PM
QUOTE(Biffaboy @ Jan 25 2009, 10:02 PM)
Please guys I really need your help.
its overheating. do the xclamp fix if you havent. and if you have clean the gpu/cpu off and redo the thermal paste and put it back together it should work fine.
Post by: dnavajoc on January 29, 2009, 11:00:00 AM
Any news about what E73 - 1021 is? I think it is more than clear now, based on all experiences we found in the forums worldwide that this is not an ethernet problem. No one can fix it after replacing the ethernet connector or chip, it only gets worst turning into E74. Anyone was successful on fixing E73 - 1021?
Post by: drogy on February 01, 2009, 06:04:00 AM
i'm new here but i've been reading this forum for a while now and it's been very helpful to me so far. now i have my first set of questions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). i recently got a rrod xbox 360 and decided i would try to fix it as i've been reading about the massive success rate of the xclamp fix so i got to work and took the console apart. what seems disturbing to me is the lower part of the motherboard which shows some corrosion. i know at least one other person here encountered this a few years back and i was wondering if any1 got to the source of it.
is there any point in cleaning it? what should i use to clean it? does it affect the console behaviour? can i do anything to avoid it getting worse?
my theory is it's probably pretty old (the corrosion) and also probably due to bad storage conditions prior to its sale as i don't leave near the sea or in a high humidity area..
thanks!
ps: here are some pics:
(IMG:http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7774/img0214hy9.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/519/img0215di6.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7163/img0216mz7.th.jpg)
This post has been edited by drogy: Feb 1 2009, 02:09 PM
Post by: dreddy71 on February 05, 2009, 12:33:00 AM
Post by: d-2-d on February 06, 2009, 03:42:00 AM
I have a idea where it might have came from, when you think about the 360 it gets pretty hot on the inside, and if cool air is being drawn in through the vents, something happens (i forgot what its called) and you get condensation...
Those are my 2 cents
QUOTE(drogy @ Feb 1 2009, 05:40 AM)
hey guys!
i'm new here but i've been reading this forum for a while now and it's been very helpful to me so far. now i have my first set of questions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif). i recently got a rrod xbox 360 and decided i would try to fix it as i've been reading about the massive success rate of the xclamp fix so i got to work and took the console apart. what seems disturbing to me is the lower part of the motherboard which shows some corrosion. i know at least one other person here encountered this a few years back and i was wondering if any1 got to the source of it.
is there any point in cleaning it? what should i use to clean it? does it affect the console behaviour? can i do anything to avoid it getting worse?
my theory is it's probably pretty old (the corrosion) and also probably due to bad storage conditions prior to its sale as i don't leave near the sea or in a high humidity area..
thanks!
ps: here are some pics:
(IMG:http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7774/img0214hy9.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/519/img0215di6.th.jpg)
(IMG:http://img119.imageshack.us/img119/7163/img0216mz7.th.jpg)
Post by: YoungGeekGuy on February 07, 2009, 11:50:00 AM
Post by: Chickan on February 12, 2009, 04:35:00 PM
Seems like some of the codes come up as a result of it being too tight after the replacement.
Post by: drogy on February 03, 2020, 04:40:00 AM
QUOTE(d-2-d @ Feb 6 2009, 12:42 PM)
I just bought 3 xbox's for $100 bucks becuase of RROD and 2 of the 3 had the same corrosion as yours does, pretty much in the same area.
I have a idea where it might have came from, when you think about the 360 it gets pretty hot on the inside, and if cool air is being drawn in through the vents, something happens (i forgot what its called) and you get condensation...
Those are my 2 cents
after further investigation with some more experienced electronics guys i've reached the conclusion that it's probably nothing to worry about as it's most likely just residue from the manufacturing process. that console has been working great for couple of weeks now.
Post by: d-2-d on February 14, 2009, 01:43:00 PM
Post by: ohlin5 on February 22, 2009, 03:59:00 PM
Thanks A Lot!
-ohlin5
Post by: ksi on February 23, 2009, 09:53:00 PM
Post by: EraserHR on February 25, 2009, 03:05:00 PM
Got it again two months ago, so I used the heat gun method.
Worked fine until today. I transferred the Xbox from my room to the living room and wanted to watch a movie (Die Hard 4.0... fuckyeah, baby (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)).
First it popped out an E74 error. Turned it off, unplugged everything, plugged everything back in and tried to turn it on again.
Now I get a RROD with a secondary code of 0100.
I know nobody knows what 0100 means, but does some method fix it?
I'm getting really pissed off with the console... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Post by: d-2-d on February 25, 2009, 06:01:00 PM
Check missing/broken componets, reflow gpu, cpu, ana, and ram chips.
If all else fails part it out.
Post by: supermanklnpn45 on February 28, 2009, 07:20:00 PM
0024
(not yet known)
or... At this moment my xbox is taken apart. no screws in the x-clamps or in the front led piece. I just wanted to share if anyone else has/will get this.
Edit:
I wasn't thinking, it was 0023.
I forgot 4 flashing= 3, not a 4 lol.
This post has been edited by supermanklnpn45: Mar 1 2009, 03:23 AM
Post by: Gir489 on March 17, 2009, 02:42:00 PM
What the fuck are you talking about?
Anyway, I found out that E 73 could also be attributed to a problem with the chip, that has 4 holes on the board. It's to the left of the ANA.
I fixed it by placing a make-shift heat sink on it, by cutting out some flat metal, and attaching it with 4 long screws.
I noticed it when I applied pressure to the chip, the error went away. So, doing the same with the bolts and washers for it, the error went away.
This post has been edited by Gir489: Mar 17 2009, 09:44 PM
Post by: reactorman on March 30, 2009, 09:29:00 AM
I've got section 1, 3, and 4 lit up with red lights. The power is still green. I have no error code. There is no audio or video output. Could it be that I just need a new cable?
Reactorman
Post by: shakeyplace on March 30, 2009, 11:20:00 AM
Any suggestions?
This post has been edited by shakeyplace: Mar 30 2009, 06:21 PM
Post by: t3hw1nn3r on March 31, 2009, 08:03:00 AM
QUOTE(reactorman @ Mar 30 2009, 06:13 PM)
Hey,
I've got section 1, 3, and 4 lit up with red lights. The power is still green. I have no error code. There is no audio or video output. Could it be that I just need a new cable?
Reactorman
What you want to do is press the sync button and open dvd drive button at the same time to get the code.
This post has been edited by t3hw1nn3r: Mar 31 2009, 03:13 PM
Post by: CrushdRedPepper on April 01, 2009, 09:11:00 AM
Was watching DVD yesterday, everything working fine. Turn it off, put in Halo3, and certain graphics started to go all fuzzy(all except menus)
Turned off and on and now im Stuck with 1 Red light.
Code E 74 and 1022 code.
What Can i do to fix this myself.. if possible.
Thankyou in advance.
Ps: fairly sure there is nothing wrong with my AV cable
Post by: t3hw1nn3r on April 01, 2009, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(CrushdRedPepper @ Apr 1 2009, 05:55 PM)
Please help me out So i Dont have to deal with Microsoft whO i Despise cause of things like this.
Was watching DVD yesterday, everything working fine. Turn it off, put in Halo3, and certain graphics started to go all fuzzy(all except menus)
Turned off and on and now im Stuck with 1 Red light.
Code E 74 and 1022 code.
What Can i do to fix this myself.. if possible.
Thankyou in advance.
Ps: fairly sure there is nothing wrong with my AV cable
Honestly, you should send it back if you can cause that's free. If not I'd recommend heat gunning it then doing the hybrid x-clamp replacement.
Post by: CrushdRedPepper on April 03, 2009, 09:00:00 AM
Alas, now I have disassembled my xbox all the way down to the motherboard, and after trying to figure out exact problem with e74 1022 by reading these forums for 2 days, I cant really seem to get a universal answer anywhere. Looking @ motherboard, Its all foreign to me and I have no real experience in this kind of work.
So early next week Im going to try to do an x-clamp replacement following some of the guides here and if that doesnt work, going to try my luck with a Heat gun on certain areas..... so good luck to me, and If i dont manage to destroy my 360 completely ill try to post my results here.
Ill check back occasionally if anyone has any advice or small tips for me. thanks
Post by: Zakvvv666 on April 26, 2009, 03:25:00 PM
I'm trying to find a job so i can buy a new one but i just need a couple extra months.
btw, pls talk in stupid terms as this complicated stuff hurts my head
Post by: t3hw1nn3r on April 26, 2009, 05:29:00 PM
QUOTE(Zakvvv666 @ Apr 26 2009, 10:25 PM)
Hi, I'm new to the forum, and my Xbox has been broken for the past seceral months and been opened at least 50 times and im at the point where i fixed the x-clamps so the red rings stopped and i just had to use a lighter to make the encoder chip work, but just the other day i accidentally burnt a couple things and i started freezing and then got the red rings with the 0102 error. I've looked around, and apparently there are several different things that could work, and I need to just start working on every possible fix so can everybody pls give me detailed ways on all the fixes please, that would be a huge help so I can try to fix it.
I'm trying to find a job so i can buy a new one but i just need a couple extra months.
btw, pls talk in stupid terms as this complicated stuff hurts my head
Usually if you heat gun it it works, if not, take everything off and make sure it isn't warped. Then take the box and heat gun it again but only slightly longer then you previously have. Then do the team hybrid fix.
Post by: Zakvvv666 on April 27, 2009, 08:11:00 AM
Post by: t3hw1nn3r on April 27, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Zakvvv666 @ Apr 27 2009, 03:11 PM)
ok, i got it to stop doing the rings somewhat and now it just keeps doing the E74 error with the 1022 code and i believe its an encoder chip problem, so is there something other than a heatgun i can use because i dont have one and also where do i buy a new encoder chip and how much will it cost?
you can't buy another as far as i know, but usally if you put pressure between it on both sides as you heatgun it, it works.
Post by: lycanwrath on May 02, 2009, 03:20:00 AM
I am having 3RROD and Secondary error code 0103 on my falcon board.
I did the xclamp fix, but it worked only for a day max. (tried the fix over and over)
My GPU heatsink gets burning hot while my cpu heatsink stays cold.
What I would like to know is whether the prob is with my GPU or CPU?
And secondly what options do I have?
Thx in advance (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif).
Post by: pnyce777 on May 04, 2009, 05:32:00 PM
QUOTE
Hi to all,
I am having 3RROD and Secondary error code 0103 on my falcon board.
I did the xclamp fix, but it worked only for a day max. (tried the fix over and over)
My GPU heatsink gets burning hot while my cpu heatsink stays cold.
What I would like to know is whether the prob is with my GPU or CPU?
And secondly what options do I have?
Thx in advance wink.gif.
I am having 3RROD and Secondary error code 0103 on my falcon board.
I did the xclamp fix, but it worked only for a day max. (tried the fix over and over)
My GPU heatsink gets burning hot while my cpu heatsink stays cold.
What I would like to know is whether the prob is with my GPU or CPU?
And secondly what options do I have?
Thx in advance wink.gif.
sounds like its not sitting correctly on the gpu chip try reapplying the thermal paste and removing a washer from under the heat sink i only use 1 nylon washer on the topside of the board and ive fixed about 8 RROL xboxs
Post by: lycanwrath on May 04, 2009, 10:20:00 PM
Thx, Did what you said pnyce777.
I am now getting error 0110 instead.
What do you suggest I do now?
Post by: gertgert on May 09, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
Post by: gizbug on May 11, 2009, 01:11:00 PM
I use wireless adapter, and not ethernet port. Any way to fix this?
Post by: HvxHcC on May 13, 2009, 01:03:00 PM
Also change that stupid method of calling 4 blinking fields 0 , it's 4.
This post has been edited by HvxHcC: May 13 2009, 08:05 PM
Post by: HvxHcC on May 13, 2009, 04:53:00 PM
and you took it and put it into your list word for word. You guys also clearly didn't read the post because you still have wrong error reasons on here. Idiots.
Post by: twistedsymphony on May 13, 2009, 05:10:00 PM
As I said in my PM I only post information that people send me here, I take ZERO credit for anything that is in this sticky... all I do is organize it I even state this at the end of the sticky before the credits.
This sticky has been around since 2006... with only minor updates about every month or so.
In the same breath you said we copied you word for word and then you said we didn't read it because it's incorrect... so which is it?
Do you want to help out and set things right or do you just want to come here to flame people?
This post has been edited by twistedsymphony: May 14 2009, 12:18 AM
Post by: HvxHcC on May 13, 2009, 05:52:00 PM
2) For someone who calls others who post this list scumbags, you sure don't check your sources
3) making an xboxhacker account takes 2 seconds
4) No I think I'll stop here. I was going to post more info but nevermind.
Post by: .ISO on May 13, 2009, 08:48:00 PM
Honestly, I think what he wrote was very useful, and you should at least bold his name in the credit list
This post has been edited by .ISO: May 14 2009, 03:51 AM
Post by: HvxHcC on May 13, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Hello iso
Post by: twistedsymphony on May 14, 2009, 06:12:00 AM
QUOTE(HvxHcC @ May 13 2009, 10:53 PM)
Just thank the people I thanked, change your stupid ass led code 0 naming to 4, take another look at what i wrote for the errors before appending garbage reasons, and I'll be happy.
Hello iso
The only reason it's listed as 0 instead of 4 is because that's how it was explained to me, and it's been that way since 2006 when the list was first created... the person who gave me that information apparently got it directly from someone inside MS... if you have a good reason why I should change it beyond calling me an idiot I would be happy to.
Also I DID try registering at XBH but I STILL can't see your post
My "sources" are people who send me PMs and say "Hey I found out THIS for error code X" I don't know how exactly I'm supposed to "check" that, particularly when whatever they give me isn't able to appear in any search engine and I'm physically locked out of where the source actually exists.
I only do this because I'm trying to help out. You feel you've been wronged and I've been doing everything I can to try to set it straight but it's hard to do when I just get a random PM calling me a scumbag and accusing me of things without actually giving me anything to go on.
Post by: HvxHcC on May 18, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: GeorgeCloney on May 22, 2009, 01:47:00 PM
microsoft say there live test reported it as modded but this is not the case, but they wont touch it any way.
could do with some advice please.
Post by: HvxHcC on May 23, 2009, 10:01:00 PM
Post by: Lincoln on May 25, 2009, 08:04:00 AM
Have you tried contacting them? Is there a pay or this is toll free?
Thanks
I want to call them because I do have a problem with my xbox.
Simulation pret immobilier
Post by: HvxHcC on May 25, 2009, 10:04:00 AM
Post by: GeorgeCloney on June 02, 2009, 05:53:00 AM
QUOTE(HvxHcC @ May 24 2009, 05:01 AM)
That is not a hardware failure. Basically you're going to need microsoft to fix that for you because it's looking to be reprogrammed. If you truly didn't mod your box I would called and ask to speak with someone in charge and not deal with the regular phone lackies. If you did modify your console, man up and go buy a new one because it's your own fault and I don't blame them for not fixing it.
truly not modded but can not get anyone at microsoft to sort it out as they say I tried to mod it and there test software is 100% accurate. LOL.
bought this console new the same month it says it was manufactured so find it hard to believe it was swapped before I got it either, its never left my house so no one else could have modded it.
some call center robot tried to claim whatever was uploaded could have come from another modded console that I had used my memory unit on. they do liketo makethings up at the call center.
Post by: Gir489 on June 02, 2009, 12:35:00 PM
-Downgrade to old dashboard, solder back the resistor and then update your xbox
-If you have CPU Key, get current NAND Flash image and fix LDV (just add 1 up to latest kernel). (See error 1100)
1100 See Error E80
I loled.
Post by: .ISO on June 18, 2009, 12:53:00 AM
QUOTE(gizbug @ May 11 2009, 12:11 PM)
I have the " E73: General Hardware Error: Ethernet port... this error is caused by a problem with the Ethernet port." Error.
I use wireless adapter, and not ethernet port. Any way to fix this?
E73 is not actually caused by the Ethernet port, it's a HSIO bus related error. In another word, caused by the GPU
Post by: blackgold on June 22, 2009, 04:38:00 PM
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Post by: scorpionrecords on June 26, 2009, 06:58:00 PM
QUOTE(jager673 @ Nov 22 2007, 11:43 PM)
Ok my problem is i have the Error Code 0020 and i have done both the heat gun method and the x-clamp method and it STILL gives me the Error.. I checked the mobo to make sure its not bent and its not. I also loosened the screws and what not still gives me that SAME error. Anyone have an idea what else could cause it?
EXACT SAME PROBLEM!!!!! I can't seem to fix this problem...
Post by: TheRedDeath on June 28, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
i loosened the screws on mine and its worked perfect since.
Definitely has to do with the GPU though
Post by: Gir489 on July 03, 2009, 09:50:00 AM
The box that had this error was filthy. It also had a mess-ton of excess thermal compound everywhere from Microsoft.
On the epoxy on the side of the chips. All over the bed resistors. Some of it was on the ANA. Some of it was near the RAM chips.
It wasn't like a flood of thermal compound like on the epoxy, it was more of dots of thermal compound were sprayed all over the board.
When I removed all remaining excess thermal compound from the board, and did the Xclamp replacement, the box worked again.
Just thought I'd report this.
The box's info:
Drive: BenQ (Originally was a Hitachi)
Board: Xenon (refurbished by Microsoft)
Mfr date: 2006-06-06 (I doubt that's when this board was made)
He said he sent it away less than a year ago.
This post has been edited by Gir489: Jul 3 2009, 04:54 PM
Post by: scorpionrecords on July 03, 2009, 04:04:00 PM
Post by: tonaldo85 on July 04, 2009, 04:55:00 AM
i also get an error 0102. I have repair a lot og boxes with the xclamp methode. but this box will not run with this fix. so i tried the hot air fix and it is still dead. with what temperature must i go on the board?? and what else can i do when it will not work??
i also wonder about one thing: the cpu cooling shink not heating up like normal, it is not so hot like in other boxes.
Post by: nagamin on July 21, 2009, 02:16:00 PM
Error 0102 can be fix with heat treatment, except you GPU BGA seat was damage like this-
Post by: L14M333 on July 30, 2009, 09:24:00 AM
Thanks in advanced
Liam
Post by: drvladson on August 06, 2009, 03:34:00 AM
Can help Reflow of GPU? Or reballing?
Post by: MadMaxGR on August 06, 2009, 06:35:00 AM
Post by: lildimsum7 on August 08, 2009, 12:37:00 PM
Post by: lildimsum7 on August 08, 2009, 03:35:00 PM
Post by: nagamin on August 08, 2009, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: lildimsum7 on August 08, 2009, 11:39:00 PM
QUOTE(xboxlovers77 @ Aug 3 2009, 11:07 AM)
yep...i have two of those..All Falcon..none succesfully. heatgunning, reflow, oven, penny...hybrid fix all of them...none
never ending 0100010103010 (or something like that) or sometimes give code only 0103..
i think it's RAM/ANA Related (reflow with overmeasure temperature) since the GPU was OK...it "Green" for one night...and the next day those disaster came...
It's probably RAM related because i had 0013 then i focused my heat gun on the RAM chips (probably longer than I should have) and now I have the error you and the other guy have.
Post by: mightywiz on August 17, 2009, 03:47:00 PM
QUOTE(lildimsum7 @ Aug 8 2009, 10:35 PM)
oh yea, I'm also getting a secondary error code of 0100101011... am I screwed?
i've had this error code 2 or 3 times... or something simular.....
turns out reflowing the gpu chip fixed it each time.
i've also been have successful repair with the e73 buy reflowing the
cpu chip not the southbridge chip.
e73 is a general error meaning that the communications from a device
that is connected with the southbridge is is failing startup tests.
so that could be anything to do from the hdd/gpu/cpu/ethernet port/usb ports...
pretty much anything...
but the cpu reflow has fixed this problem 3 different time for me.
Post by: Intersect on August 23, 2009, 12:13:00 PM
Post by: Intersect on August 23, 2009, 12:23:00 PM
Post by: purbeast on August 24, 2009, 08:34:00 AM
I've been fixing RRoD for the past few weeks using the llama method of the x-clamp fix and have had 4 of them work fine.
last night I tried to do another one and it did not fix it.
I checked the error code and it is 0110 which is the E20 code.
I haven't had time to check it out since last night because it was late, but plan on messing around with it tonight. I am going to try and check out the RAM chips and see if anything looks funky on there.
But is there any specific methods that people recommend for fixing the E20 error or where I should focus my attention? I don't have a heatgun, and am not even sure where to get them or what they are, but if it will help with fixing RRoD's I may pick one up.
Post by: nagamin on August 24, 2009, 03:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Intersect @ Aug 23 2009, 02:23 PM)
It's funny to me that someone can repair 0102 by fucking with the gpu. That's a memory error.
Where did that come from?
Post by: ccfman2004 on August 24, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
Is this a GPU error or RAM error?
Post by: nagamin on August 24, 2009, 06:23:00 PM
85% of error 0102 had been recovered with GPU reflow alone.
Post by: ccfman2004 on August 24, 2009, 06:27:00 PM
QUOTE(nagamin @ Aug 25 2009, 01:23 AM)
With my experience on about 30 of RROD console with error 0102 is GPU related.
85% of error 0102 had been recovered with GPU reflow alone.
What does reflow mean?
Post by: lildimsum7 on August 28, 2009, 04:26:00 PM
Post by: Intersect on August 29, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
and 4142 is memory related as well, part of the north bridge init. If you're fixing it by doing something else, good for you, but that's what the error means.
Post by: whyexactly on August 31, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
I'd like to throw in that I just fixed a 0020 by putting a dime in between the GPU heatsink and the rearmost RAM chip covered by the heatsink. This is all after a full reheat/reflow
Post by: CrossFireXT17 on September 07, 2009, 11:14:00 AM
I received the 2 red flashing lights today, and I fall under the "3 year warranty" but not the "1 year warranty" so Microsoft wants to charge me $100 to fix it. I've left it cool down for a full day, and then set it up on table with nothing around it and it still causes the 2 red lights.
I've read through the x-clamp fix, and I'm not the most "handy man" possible, so would it better to just pay the $100 and get it fixed, or should I just go about trying to fix it myself?
Post by: ccfman2004 on September 07, 2009, 12:11:00 PM
QUOTE(CrossFireXT17 @ Sep 7 2009, 06:14 PM)
Hey everyone,
I received the 2 red flashing lights today, and I fall under the "3 year warranty" but not the "1 year warranty" so Microsoft wants to charge me $100 to fix it. I've left it cool down for a full day, and then set it up on table with nothing around it and it still causes the 2 red lights.
I've read through the x-clamp fix, and I'm not the most "handy man" possible, so would it better to just pay the $100 and get it fixed, or should I just go about trying to fix it myself?
2 Red Lights means the xbox 360 is overheating.
Post by: CrossFireXT17 on September 07, 2009, 01:34:00 PM
Post by: mightywiz on September 11, 2009, 09:49:00 AM
make sure you clean the old thermal paste from the chip and heatsink before adding new
thermal paste.
Post by: Jaboy on September 11, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: georaldc on September 12, 2009, 11:24:00 PM
Now the other day, I accidentaly left it on (while showing the 3RL) without the exhaust fans plugged in. It got very very hot, so I shut it off, plugged in the fans again and turned it on. The fans started off at full blast and the 360 started working again. This time, it lasted for about 3-4 days then the 3rl again. I did the overheat thing again, and it worked again but didn't last as long. Seems everytime I heat it up, the 360 comes out of the 3rl and starts working again.
You guys think a heatgun job will do the trick? Any guides in here showing what needs to be done? Thanks
Post by: mikeloeven on September 14, 2009, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: Dskate on September 14, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
I bought a console only on ebay and it will be here 4-11 days, but i really want to get this one fixed and either sell it off or keep it
Please anyone help me!
my email is [email protected]
Then I tightend the bolts and screws on the back and got three red rings and error code 0031 HELP!
Post by: I_hate_nitty on September 15, 2009, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(mikeloeven @ Sep 14 2009, 07:03 PM)
seems the 0020 error has been giving some people grief. the other day someone dropped a xbox off at the electronics repair company i work for we normally dont get consoles in and being the game enthusiast the other techs dumped it in my lap and said fix it. well it was error 0020. i am not sure how many things can cause this error but for me it was the result of someone torquing the AV jack in the back of the xbox too hard. the error was corrected after i resoldered the loose pins of the AV jack onto the mother board and forced an overheat to clear the code
Well im a complete retard but it may help you guys out. I had a perfect running 360 ( Finally ! ) put hard drive in and it didnt set/ connect completely , heard the click but it felt "off". Loaded up , 3RRoD error 0020 !
Post by: mikeloeven on September 15, 2009, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(I_hate_nitty @ Sep 15 2009, 04:02 PM)
Well im a complete retard but it may help you guys out. I had a perfect running 360 ( Finally ! ) put hard drive in and it didnt set/ connect completely , heard the click but it felt "off". Loaded up , 3RRoD error 0020 !
well if a hdd can cause the same error as a loose AV jack maby it is a generic I/O fault
Post by: onezurn on September 23, 2009, 03:26:00 PM
QUOTE(Avaric3 @ Apr 6 2006, 04:59 AM)
one time i got a error 69, righ after i cracked opened my system and painted it, i almost cried, ok i did, than i removed the hard drive and all was betta, lol
ok.. so i've fixed a few 360s in the past month, but i have one that is being a pain ... it started with no video but audo... solved that issue by reflowing the board... then i got it all back together after puttin new artic silver in it, playing on it for over an hour no problems.. then i put it all back together, got 3rod , error 0133... then rrod error 0031, so i loosened the screws and washers on the heat sincs where i replace the xclamps and now i have error 0020. im so confused right now with this one.. i dont know what all to do.. can someone please lend a helping hand.. i just tore it all back apart.. and heat gun'd the video ram chips hoping its going to work.. i really wish i hadn't put it back together in the fist place cuz it turned on and off fine without any errors
Post by: whyexactly on September 27, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
Post by: mightywiz on October 01, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
QUOTE(whyexactly @ Sep 27 2009, 09:34 PM)
another stinking 0020... this one it can run flawlessly in SD, but the second the switch is flipped to HD, it pops a 0020. I let it heat up to reflow with the fans sitting on the DVD drive cooling the CPU, and they never speed up, just gently cruise along. The GPU heatsink never gets hot, and after 20 mins I figure it's just not gonna get hot so I switch it off. Leave it 15 and fire it up, works fine on SD, flip to HD, 0020. Would this be some kind of short in the AV socket/soldering between two of the HD pins?
did you try a different cable......? if you did then it's going to be the ana/hana or the gpu chip.
Post by: KiwiXboxer on October 14, 2009, 09:23:00 AM
I must say a big thank you to all of you who contributed to this thread. It is by far the most comprehensive I have seen on the net
Keep up the good work!
I have now repair quite a few of these and they are hanging together well to date without RROD issues (touch wood = belt head with large metal object-LOL)
Cheers!!!
KIWIXBOXER
Post by: g.sonic on October 25, 2009, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: happykillmore on October 28, 2009, 04:07:00 AM
The problem lies within the MOBO's power rail. 0020's signal comes from a failure in the power rail whether it be a bad solder connection or a blown cap.
OP if you have any questions feel free to PM me. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy.gif)
Post by: danked on October 29, 2009, 03:58:00 PM
Post by: happykillmore on October 29, 2009, 04:55:00 PM
Post by: happykillmore on October 29, 2009, 08:07:00 PM
Post by: mightywiz on November 02, 2009, 10:37:00 PM
QUOTE(danked @ Oct 29 2009, 10:58 PM)
just got 3 red ring and a secondary error code, 0023 (not yet known), any leads on what that mite be.
my experience with 0023 is the cpu chip is overheating, if you've done the x-clamp mod and tried everything
and nothing works, then do this:
on the cpu side only return it to stock with the original x-clamp.... for some reason with the x-clamp mod
the heatsink is not sitting on the cpu and is overheating....
replacing the original x-clamp on the cpu side only almost always fixes this error for me.
Post by: happykillmore on November 09, 2009, 03:53:00 PM
Post by: whyexactly on November 11, 2009, 11:03:00 PM
bit of an odd one here, I've got one that doesn't boot up. you hit the power and the center light flashes but never goes solid, and the ring of light never does its little loop (no video or audio out either). sometimes it will RRoD but only after running for a minute, it alternates between 0022 and 0103. I got it apart now and the X Clamp replacement has been done but the holes haven't been drilled in the solid metal part of the case, the replacement screws were way too tight so I loosened them off and now it won't RRoD but it still won't boot up. any guesses?
Post by: some11 on November 13, 2009, 02:49:00 PM
http://www.x360forums.com
Post by: halofreak1990 on November 18, 2009, 04:22:00 PM
Now, when I turn it on, it boots to the dash without problems, but the front panel led's don't work, nor does any wireless controller connect, and the CPU gets real hot real fast, causing the fans to go into overdrive.
I guess this could be a possible short between the CPU and the front panel?
Post by: halofreak1990 on November 19, 2009, 04:35:00 AM
I found the problem: while removing the X-Clamps, I accidentally hit one of the resistors near the front panel connector and ripped it partly off the circuit board.
Would it theoretically be possible to replace it, or just bridge the connections to get it back to work?
I apologise for not editing my previous post, but I couldn't find the edit button anywhere near it.
Post by: whyexactly on November 20, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
if you can take a pic of which part is missing I can try to get a resistance reading for you if it is a resistor so you can try to get a replacement component, I've got 4 360's here atm so one of them should have the same board.
This post has been edited by whyexactly: Nov 21 2009, 07:22 AM
Post by: halofreak1990 on November 22, 2009, 04:55:00 AM
Here's a shot of the section of the board I'm talking about.
I've marked the location of the missing component with a red rectangle.
(IMG:http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2530/img0524f.png)
Post by: ivext on November 29, 2009, 01:56:00 AM
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I really hope it's not my hard drive, it might not be because before i got the error the screen seemed a bit fuzzy.
This post has been edited by ivext: Nov 29 2009, 10:00 AM
Post by: Ceodil on December 03, 2009, 10:46:00 PM
Post by: Blake_l4 on December 04, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
Anyhow thanks for reading, and brill forum. Nice to find a lump sum of decent information.
Post by: Ace-chan on December 10, 2009, 06:11:00 PM
It is true an X-Box can....Explode? What can cause such devestation and damage to an innocent X-Box?
Poor Boxy...;.;
Post by: mightywiz on December 11, 2009, 08:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Blake_l4 @ Dec 5 2009, 12:49 AM)
Can someone point me in the direction of solving an e18 error. I'm searching but it's a bit tedious. I've done the xclamp repair method which worked for a bit but now it's rrod constantly even after reapplying new thermal paste. I had to do the error code check to find out its e18 and im at a bit of a loss. Not sure if overheating again will damage it further somehow or not :S
Anyhow thanks for reading, and brill forum. Nice to find a lump sum of decent information.
your to the point you need to use the heat gun method or have a reflow done to it.....
the bad connections under the gpu chip have built up a lot of carbon and only a reflow will
fix it.
and a hair dryer is not the same as a heat gun, it doesn't get hot enough to do the job
Post by: GreenRinger on December 23, 2009, 01:48:00 PM
My question is, can leaving a console in a four light state lead to the three light RROD?
Post by: wesoo on January 02, 2010, 01:07:00 AM
Post by: wesoo on January 02, 2010, 05:02:00 AM
QUOTE(wesoo @ Jan 2 2010, 01:07 PM)
i have problem in my xbox it give me 3 rrod without the error code in the screen????
hi i find out the error code 0002 it what i have can i fix it???
Post by: Todd5854 on January 03, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
I had an 0102 Xbox. I did the x- clamp fix. Worked for about 10 days, then video started going fuzzy. Then I shut it off, and no video. Stayed like that a few more tries. then every time i turned it on i got the 3 lights. So then I ripped it apart, and used my heat gun. This changed the error code to 0020. Any ideas?
~Todd5854, first post!!
Post by: dr_sb on January 04, 2010, 12:36:00 PM
but my xbox 360 now is a bit wired...becouse..it doesnt power on..doesnt start the power supply sometime..
when i do nothing..and let it lay around some hours!! it powers on...but..i get nothing (no pic) only the green in the middle lights..even the ring of light never shows a green light..until i press the sync button...
and if i get a rod its always 0110.
ideas?
best regards ben
Post by: skitts24 on January 07, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(dr_sb @ Jan 5 2010, 03:36 AM)
hi, ive used already some of the trutorials here..and i got always lucky with them..till now..
but my xbox 360 now is a bit wired...becouse..it doesnt power on..doesnt start the power supply sometime..
when i do nothing..and let it lay around some hours!! it powers on...but..i get nothing (no pic) only the green in the middle lights..even the ring of light never shows a green light..until i press the sync button...
and if i get a rod its always 0110.
ideas?
best regards ben
hey - i am having similar problem. I have been reading page after page - tuts after tuts trying to figure out how to solve the problem. at first 3rrod - used xclamp, then green light - no vid or sound... used heat gun.. now 3rrod 0102... maybe i didn't heat it up enough? getting pretty frustrated and not sure what i should do. i think its a positive that i am getting error 0102 (e18) though i am not sure what else to try. i also used flux when heating up the cpu and gpu with the heat gun.
I think my only real choice now is rework station but i don't own one.. and its almost the cost of an xbox360 to do it through someone who has one (in Australia).
Hope i make sense - kinda frustrated at them moment
Post by: Haruno on January 17, 2010, 12:46:00 AM
Post by: skitts24 on January 18, 2010, 02:58:00 AM
QUOTE(EliteLeran @ Jan 18 2010, 04:44 PM)
Hey guys, I've gotten a guide on how to fix the red rings of death -RROD. I have 3 red rings.. I get the error code 0102 . I have done the mod on my xbox i replaced the X-clamps with the screws,washers,etc. I removed the old thermal compound, reapplied new thermal compound arctic silver 5 thermal compound.
I STILL HAVE THE 3 RED RINGS!!!
nothing has changed... i'm very frustrated.. I wish there was there was something I can do.
Has anyone figured out a way to fix this?
Or help me even though I did the Mod on my xbox
I doubt that MS will repair my Xbox even though I modded it lol.. I still have the x-clamps. I can put it back how it was but it shows on the back of the xbox that i opened it up
you still have the 3RROD because you need to send your xbox to your local mod guy who can reflow the solder the safest way - using a rework station. i have the same problem - as disappointing as it sounds its the best way to fix the 3RROD - after that apply hybrids x-clamp fix and your done. There is limited people who reflow around where i live and is almost as expensive as purchasing a new xbox.
btw by the sound of it you are looking to jtag - another option is to purchase a second hand xbox that has not had the update applied and works ok. Good luck
Post by: CodedCaffeine on January 18, 2010, 08:56:00 PM
Post by: b0dyr0ck2006 on January 22, 2010, 08:03:00 AM
I have got an xbox360 with rrod, the error code that is coming up is 0031. I have taken off the x-clamp and cleaned everything. There was a lot of thermal paste between the legs of the resistors around the gpu/cpu. Did the fix and tested and am still getting a 0031 code. I have read somewhere that this could also be a cracked ram chip??
Can anybody help me out here?
Post by: coolshrimp on January 22, 2010, 03:10:00 PM
E13: Unknown: could be caused by a short between the heatsink and surrounding capacitors
This was a disk error for me the drive was jammed so i manualy ejected it and the error was gone
This post has been edited by coolshrimp: Jan 22 2010, 11:11 PM
Post by: b0dyr0ck2006 on January 22, 2010, 04:09:00 PM
QUOTE(coolshrimp @ Jan 22 2010, 10:10 PM)
0031 Secondery Error
E13: Unknown: could be caused by a short between the heatsink and surrounding capacitors
This was a disk error for me the drive was jammed so i manualy ejected it and the error was gone
Cant be a short because i tried without any heatsinks on and it still gave the same error. I will try the dvd drive tomorrow and see if that fixes it.
Post by: timewalker75a on January 28, 2010, 05:03:00 PM
Post by: Hardcore Gamer on February 04, 2010, 10:14:00 AM
I don't have that xbox now but got another one yesterday that had a e74 error, after I messed about, the e74 error screen was replaced with a black screen with vertical dotted lines, the lad who owned it had done a lot of towel tricking to it so it's had some abuse. I heated it to get the 3 red rings and it gave me the 020 error afterwards.
I took it apart and seen that it had already been x-clamp fixed but the nuts were so tight it was hard to even turn them with a spanner. I slackened them off, turned them back finger tight and it burst into life. That's the second 020 error xbox I've had that I've fixed by loosening the heatsink, they mustn't like being super tight.
Post by: vendris on February 26, 2010, 10:16:00 AM
QUOTE(Hardcore Gamer @ Feb 4 2010, 06:14 PM)
I fixed an 020 xbox last year by loosening the heatsink, I posted in this thread how I fixed it around March.
I don't have that xbox now but got another one yesterday that had a e74 error, after I messed about, the e74 error screen was replaced with a black screen with vertical dotted lines, the lad who owned it had done a lot of towel tricking to it so it's had some abuse. I heated it to get the 3 red rings and it gave me the 020 error afterwards.
I took it apart and seen that it had already been x-clamp fixed but the nuts were so tight it was hard to even turn them with a spanner. I slackened them off, turned them back finger tight and it burst into life. That's the second 020 error xbox I've had that I've fixed by loosening the heatsink, they mustn't like being super tight.
020 or 0020?
In case of 0020, my Zephyr elite got that error after 6 months of usage, never tocuhed it since then but im planning to attempt to fix it soon.
EDIT:
Forgot to ask if anyone ever got the RROD with the following quadrants flashing:
/ \
/
1, 2, 4. Happened 10 min ago while running a game of HD (jtagged) screen stayed black > shut down the xbox, turned it on again and it flashed... but! while it was flashing it booted and worked just fine
Another reboot made it disapear again
Post by: Om3ga Sn1per on March 01, 2010, 08:45:00 PM
QUOTE
E10: Unconfirmed: CPU error, generally caused by a poor connection to the mainboard (cold solder joints/bridged solder joints). This can also be triggered by an error with the TSOP.
This could also be caused by over torquing the screws if you did the Xclamp fix. (Just fixed my xbox that had this error and i over-torqued the scews on the Gpu,Cpu.)
This post has been edited by Om3ga Sn1per: Mar 2 2010, 04:56 AM
Post by: bluecar5556 on March 03, 2010, 01:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Link1121 @ Apr 19 2006, 08:37 PM)
If you have a jtagged console, try removing any usb sticks or drives with a default.xex file as the root. Does the xbox 360 logo appear then get scrambled right before loading the dashboard and displaying E71 error code. To me this seems to be caused by the 360 trying to boot from the .xex on the root directory via usb rather than the hard drive. Need some bios settings so we can change the boot priority.
Post by: Om3ga Sn1per on March 03, 2010, 09:33:00 PM
QUOTE(Om3ga Sn1per @ Mar 1 2010, 10:45 PM)
This could also be caused by over torquing the screws on ONE side, I over Tighted the GPU screws to try to fix the E74 without the heatgun but I failed.
Fixed.
Post by: Harrdog17 on March 07, 2010, 12:23:00 AM
I did get E68 once a couple weeks ago with the 1 ring. I've been using my hardrive since 360 came out so i thought it was craping out and with the E68 i thought that was it for sure, but then why would it freeze without it in. My warranties up so any disassembly is fine.
SOMEONE PLEASE EASE MY CONFUSION AND END MY SUFFERING I JUST WANNA PLAY BAD COMPANY 2. haha thanks in advance
Post by: R0st3r on March 08, 2010, 07:47:00 PM
0013 secondary error code for the 3 red rings: I found that you can get this if you do not clean the heatsinks properly. Cleaned it and it booted perfectly.
Post by: battlechaser on March 15, 2010, 10:05:00 PM
Post by: Om3ga Sn1per on March 16, 2010, 09:18:00 PM
QUOTE(battlechaser @ Mar 16 2010, 12:05 AM)
damn just heatgunned my xbox and its STILL 3RROD/error 0021! i hate these damn things....anyone have any other ideas?
Did you try the Xclamp fix?
Post by: battlechaser on March 16, 2010, 09:25:00 PM
Post by: Hardcore Gamer on March 17, 2010, 06:19:00 AM
QUOTE(vendris @ Feb 26 2010, 07:16 PM)
020 or 0020?
In case of 0020, my Zephyr elite got that error after 6 months of usage, never tocuhed it since then but im planning to attempt to fix it soon.
EDIT:
Forgot to ask if anyone ever got the RROD with the following quadrants flashing:
/ \
/
1, 2, 4. Happened 10 min ago while running a game of HD (jtagged) screen stayed black > shut down the xbox, turned it on again and it flashed... but! while it was flashing it booted and worked just fine
Another reboot made it disapear again
I thought it just gave me only three numbers when pressing sync but it must be 0020.
It's still going since my Feb 8th post, I've 1000'ed four games with it and this is a 2006 Hitachi model that the previous owner red ringed twice, x-clamped and gave it an unhealthy amount of towel tricks, he gave it to me with a e74 screen.
When I went to remove the graphics heatsink I had to really give it some with the spanner to loosen the bolts. The person who x-clamped it had tightened them like he was putting a car wheel on, unbelievably tight.
I cleaned it up, new paste, re-tightened them myself with a spanner but not much and it didn't work. I loosened them then re-tightened them without a spanner, just as far as my fingers would allow and it's worked ever since.
Post by: Neptune on March 27, 2010, 04:35:00 PM
-Downgrade to old dashboard, solder back the resistor and then update your xbox
-If you have CPU Key, get current NAND Flash image and fix LDV (just add 1 up to latest kernel). (See error 1100)
R6T3...NOT R3T6.
Post by: GSRswapandslow on March 29, 2010, 03:14:00 PM
my best friend is goign to sell it to me for cheap, but i'm not buying it unless it can be fixed. it's a COD model and it's run great since he bought it the day they came out...and then it stopped. he picked up a spring bundle last week and this is just laying around now
(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v426/GSRswapandslow/th_0327002019.jpg)
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Post by: hana_white49 on June 27, 2010, 01:49:00 PM
thanks
Post by: Sonickart on June 28, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
i have the xenon version, first version, and i'm using the zephyr's or whatever's power supply.
i bought my xbox off a guy for 30 bucks cause he said it didn't read games. so whatever, i cleaned the lens with this fine cloth and suddenly it reads them. better at least. but i install to hard drive to make sure i can play them and it doesn't mess up more
well he gave it with a power supply that didn't fit, my xbox had a little stick in the middle of the power port, and i just broke it off and connected the power supply and it worked fine.
but few months later i got the 0020, some guy fixed it, two months later, that being few days ago it came back, but i seem to get past it by connecting the power supply slowly and pressing the on button until the power supply is BARELY making contact and it turns on, and well, what do you know, it works, at least for me. and as obvious as it was back then when i broke the little stick and plugged the obvious wrong power supply, i never thought it might be a reason for 0020. using the wrong power supply.
if i'm mistaken, i would still like to ask. if my xbox is meant for the 203 watts, and i'm using the 175 watts power supply, what could happen to it? explode or what? is it bad? cause well, it's been working fine, except for the 3red lights and 0020, but idk, i've had no problem since i turn it on that way.
i would like to know...how the hell did that guy end up with that power supply
Post by: woft333 on July 31, 2010, 01:35:00 AM
QUOTE(Hardcore Gamer @ Feb 4 2010, 12:14 PM)
I fixed an 020 xbox last year by loosening the heatsink, I posted in this thread how I fixed it around March.
I don't have that xbox now but got another one yesterday that had a e74 error, after I messed about, the e74 error screen was replaced with a black screen with vertical dotted lines, the lad who owned it had done a lot of towel tricking to it so it's had some abuse. I heated it to get the 3 red rings and it gave me the 020 error afterwards.
I took it apart and seen that it had already been x-clamp fixed but the nuts were so tight it was hard to even turn them with a spanner. I slackened them off, turned them back finger tight and it burst into life. That's the second 020 error xbox I've had that I've fixed by loosening the heatsink, they mustn't like being super tight.
0020 did the heat sink fix, vidio said tighen them down good, 3 lights, pdf said try to tighen them more, 3 lights, tried not so tight, 3 red, read your post, what the hell, loosen them suckers up ....green...
thanks
Post by: Vr5fx on July 31, 2010, 01:42:00 AM
2 red lights error code 222- (there was no 4th light)
This was caused by the front fan header (which was a right mess) Desoldered the lot and cleaned it up. Console works.
Post by: superfireball123 on August 08, 2010, 09:00:00 PM
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Post by: superfireball123 on August 12, 2010, 12:33:00 PM
Post by: rastaman108037 on August 14, 2010, 03:51:00 PM
QUOTE(superfireball123 @ Aug 8 2010, 11:00 PM)
Something I found out is E73 is not always an ethernet issue if you have reflowed the console and the error code changes to E73 it is a defective GPU.
If you reflowed the console WRONG you'll get E73 because you broke some of the connections with the ethernet chip. This is a well-known noob mistake.
Post by: NewShockerGuy on August 27, 2010, 02:01:00 AM
Just tried reflowing and that doesn't seem to fix the issue at all....
It was working perfectly fine last I played.. All I did was add a fan header to my mobo (xeon) and now get this... just awesome. Thanks microsoft ,go suck a dick!
-Nigel
Post by: mam76 on September 02, 2010, 05:07:00 AM
Post by: Error1313 on September 04, 2010, 09:35:00 PM
Graphical artifacts then a swift 3 RROD
Secondary Code: 1313
Anyone come across that one yet?
Post by: Azza_ftw on September 23, 2010, 07:32:00 AM
it shows 0 1 0 then goes back to 3 red rings, is this normal?
Post by: superfireball123 on September 26, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
QUOTE(Azza_ftw @ Sep 23 2010, 09:32 AM)
My xbox is a falcon but only shows 3 numbers instead of 4?
it shows 0 1 0 then goes back to 3 red rings, is this normal?
It may be 0110 and if it were 3 it would not be normal and if it is 0110 the ram has a colder solder joint
Post by: James33 on September 29, 2010, 07:42:00 PM
QUOTE(NewShockerGuy @ Aug 27 2010, 06:01 PM)
Out of the blue I just got 3 rrod ... 1020... Awesome!
Just tried reflowing and that doesn't seem to fix the issue at all....
It was working perfectly fine last I played.. All I did was add a fan header to my mobo (xeon) and now get this... just awesome. Thanks microsoft ,go suck a dick!
-Nigel
Wow, you messed around with it and you blamed Micosoft for the screw up lol
Post by: fedebrenes on October 07, 2010, 02:16:00 AM
ok.. when I turn on my Xbox 360, I get the 1,3 and 4 lights flashing Red
As I read the threas at the beginning, that's a general hardware problem
So I tried to use the trick of holding the sync button and pressing several times the eject button until you get a 4 number code... but I usually just get all 4 lights illuminated... and that means a 0000 code... but there is no 0000 in the list
Even though I did get once a 0300 code, but it's not in the list either...
I tried to unplug all cables from the xbox, then reconnect them all... and removing the hard drive.. then turning on the console but I still get the same problem (1, 3 and 4 flashing red)
P.S. When I removed the hard drive and turned on the xbox, I tried the trick and got the code 0110, which means: "likely a Ram error, this can be caused by a cold or bridged solder joint on one of the Ram chips."
Could this be it? or I get that code just because I have my hard drive removed and then the console can´t recognize it connected to it??
Hope you can help me
Fedebrenes
Post by: Haze666 on November 02, 2010, 06:06:00 AM
Had the dvd drive out, while fixing E74, booted to dash and before the blades spread out, it went to e71.
Post by: ars0n on November 05, 2010, 12:03:00 AM
Not sure if it posted up....
When trying to retrieve the error code when RROD.
I would get all 0's (4 lights) no matter what. Even trying to push eject to keep getting the codes, it would constantly blink 0's never changing.
Sometimes it wouldnt even end the error code test, and just keep blinking on all 4 lights.
If you randomly get weird codes, all 0's or any other unusual reading...
1. Try pushing down on the video port (metal casing on mobo by ethernet port) while booting up.
This fixed the problem, either heat gun the area or find something to put pressure on. And Done.
Post by: sacahi2 on November 09, 2010, 07:33:00 AM
you can email me at [email protected]
thanks!
Post by: whyexactly on November 21, 2010, 09:58:00 PM
I've got 2 boxes here with 0022, 1 with 0020 and 1 with 0003. Has anyone come up with a good fix for any of these yet?
The 0003 is an odd one, it had a 0022, I tried to flow the CPU a little bit, then it went to 0002 before the fans could even spin. Flowed the CPU and GPU a little, and now it's 0003 and the fans just start to spin before getting cut off. Any insight?
One of the 0022's used to run fine, until the CPU overheated a couple of times due to a heatsink issue. The 0022 popped up, I tried flowing the CPU a little bit, this lead to it powering on, but the ROL wouldn't spin green and there was no video out, and the controller would sync to it but then lose connection. No RROD would come up. I tried flowing the CPU a little bit more, and now it's back to 0022. I had just modded the drive prior to the overheating, could this have done something? (Samsung drive with ixtreme 1.61 using jungleflasher)
Post by: parting on November 24, 2010, 11:26:00 PM
I thought it may be overheating, but everything was cool. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/muhaha.gif)
This post has been edited by parting: Nov 25 2010, 07:27 AM
Post by: nhuxley83 on December 06, 2010, 08:10:00 AM
Second question: I redid the x-clamp fix with artic silver and the fan at first would power on for a couple seconds then power off. I'm assuming it did this when I bought it cause it wasn't making any noise then either so I redid my work and the power supply blinks red then goes to orange while the 360 is still flashing the 3 rrod (It would stay green at his house). I don't think I overtightened it didn't hear a crack noise or anything. There is also no secondary error code. I've worked on other consoles before and have flashed a couple 360's but this is my first rrod repair rather disappointing needless to say.
Thanks for any help. I am hoping your not going to tell me the board is just fried lol.
Post by: mfoster978 on December 11, 2010, 01:22:00 AM
I bought it off craigslist and it powered on fine. After 10 mins with it on it over heated with 2 rlod. I tried starting it again and hers what happened:
The xbox starts normally then when the xbox lights spin at startup it will only reach the 4th light then the power shuts off but shows 2 rlod. So I looked at the error code which is 0011.
What could I be doing wrong? I put a thin layer on the cpu and gpu. the gpu also has foil on it and ONLY the gpu has an xclamp underneath which is attactched to the metal casing. The cpu side is screw,steel washer,nylon washer,mother board,nylon washer, steel washer, and then heat sink.
I dont understand why the xbox starts up fine till it gets to the 4th light.
If you can help me I can give you a little cash via paypal. You can reply here or send me an aim message to michael93myers.
PLEASE HELP!!!
THANKS!!!
Post by: Weirdjerz3y on December 31, 2010, 10:37:00 AM
Post by: JDM_SOHC on March 08, 2011, 02:10:00 PM
Post by: champ0053 on March 21, 2011, 01:54:00 PM
QUOTE(ghost98 @ Jan 27 2011, 11:26 PM)
Hi Everybody,
I'm newbie here... and got problem on my XBOX 360 Xenon
About 2 days ago, i plug my internet cable to the console
And automatic show autoupdate ask for confirmation.
I think its only a minor update, so i just confirm the update.
After update.... the screen show message "System Error, contact xbox support bla bla bla..."
in the bottom there is an Error Code "E 80"
At the first page there is a fix, but i don't know what to do (I don't understand about the resistor and soldering).
From first page:
E80: Dashboard Error - Wrong LDV version in NAND Flash: This is in new dashboard. You have the update but haven't R3T6 resistor. You can:
-Downgrade to old dashboard, solder back the resistor and then update your xbox
-If you have CPU Key, get current NAND Flash image and fix LDV (just add 1 up to latest kernel). (See error 1100)
Anyone can help me with step for dummy?
thanks B4
Hello. download the upgrade and put it on a usb stick.. put the usb stick into your console and try to update again turn it on then should do update automatically. maybe a bad update. make sure it's the same update you were trying to install too which is probably the newest one. hope this helps.
Post by: cyvern on March 21, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
first things frst im pretty new to new xbox at all, but i already modded/unbricked sucessfully some psps, wiis, ps3s and other stuff.(/edit im an it specialist and my dad was electrician with master degree(and more^^), hope i described everything right, so i've got really good acces to tools/parts/knowledge all over)
And this is the first board i register to about this because its the first pretty "trustworthy" i found ^^
Btt: i'd get an xbox from a friend, he had it now for about a year in his closet with 3 ROD, 0102, so he asked me if i wanted to give it a try or else he would trash it :/
So i tried> heat gun fix(like in a dumb yt video, isolated the sorrounds and heated only gpu chip, worked for 10minutes, rrod>0102 -.-), after getting more information i decieded to replace x-clamps with bolts and washers and replace the crappy thermal paste with AS5.
After getting it altogether again (dumb i know) i got 0020, loosed the gpu bolts a tiny bit and got 0102 again, now im going to do it all over again and try the heat gun fix again but without anything on the board and i wanted to ask you pr0s for tips^^
Should i try to to heat up also the cpu and/or ram too? Is it even possible to "reflow" or reowrk with a gun properly? it has a pretty good heat point and gets above 400° at level 2, but still im not certain about that method.
Some suggestions about duration/intensity/isolation or anything else? I already build a holder for the board when i treid the fix first, so a clean and steady environment is given.
Thx forward for all those who'll read this ^^(and sry for my english i'm german^^)
p.s: should/could i open a new thread?
This post has been edited by cyvern: Mar 21 2011, 10:52 PM
Post by: Badger33 on March 23, 2011, 09:43:00 PM
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Post by: yanfeng on May 19, 2011, 10:13:00 PM
Post by: nugmebot on May 30, 2011, 01:52:00 PM
Post by: .produkt-nz on June 03, 2011, 11:28:00 PM
Any ideas on something I can try at home before i take it back to him to re repair it?
I hope Microsoft learnt their lesson and don't make any more games consoles.
Post by: X4life3 on June 20, 2011, 08:28:00 PM
This post has been edited by X4life3: Jun 21 2011, 03:29 AM
Post by: putfile on July 17, 2011, 08:06:00 AM
First off all, 3 Ligts will blink.
Than, again 3 lights
Than 2 ligths blink
And than 1 light will blink
That made 3321?
but can't find that code in the list.
Who can help me?
THX!
Post by: wilgo45 on December 13, 2011, 04:21:00 AM
QUOTE(putfile @ Jul 17 2011, 08:06 AM)
I got something like: 3321
First off all, 3 Ligts will blink.
Than, again 3 lights
Than 2 ligths blink
And than 1 light will blink
That made 3321?
but can't find that code in the list.
Who can help me?
THX!
Any chance it could really be a 0021 ? Maybe 1 of your LEDs is not functioning on your RF module board. Try a different one if you have it on hand.
Here's one way to test that. Take out your A/V cords from the back. Then turn console on. 4 red lights are supposed to flash when the A/V is not plugged in. So if you see only 3 ... then 1 LED is dead.
Post by: ericrock19 on December 16, 2011, 04:26:00 PM
I also have a 0021 error here, but, i can't understand how they started. If you know then please tell me how these was started.
Post by: nugmebot on January 09, 2012, 06:18:00 AM
Post by: Jcb890 on January 29, 2012, 11:18:00 AM
I got the 3 Red Lights, so I did the x-clamp removal and re-greased my CPU and GPU. After doing that, when powering the Xbox up, the red lights are supposed to stay, right? Well, they don't. As soon as I turn it on, the lights are green and it works fine for a bit. It runs really loud and then if I turn it off and go to turn it back on, BAM, RROD. So, using another guide I checked the code, 3x 4 red lights, then 2 red lights - so code 0002. What the hell do I do? My Xbox has the RAM chips with the thermal pads on them, do I need to replace those? They seem to be in OK shape, but I'm not sure. I'm stuck here, I don't know what to do. Any help would be great.
Post by: xiaotuanzi on February 16, 2012, 09:25:00 PM
Post by: Kriscube on April 16, 2012, 05:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Koolio12 @ Dec 14 2007, 07:02 AM)
Hey dudes you can fix it with this guide <a href="http://xbox-360-repair-guide-ebook.XS Filter - 102806 - 4/" target="_blank">xbox 360 repair guide</a>
Hi Koolio 12, I really could do with this guide as my probs fall within this range. I had a dvd open prob before I set out to flash my liteon -16D2S (02510C) phat drive I think it's a falcon but not sure. I am using jungleflasher. I've seen something like 2007 2nd generation also. CK3i and X360USB Pro could not open drive door. It only opens when connected to xbox with a disc in in it and played perfectly well. The dvd drive died during flashing attempts, I bought and installed a new motor but it is no use. My only hope despite bad data and so many weird errors is that I managed to get what looks like dvd key: DVD Key@ A030 FE00AAD8586D5B018A5C57D2E7C9C58F, Inquiry string found, Identify string found, dump.bin
then I get the following error: Can’t open file C:\Users\THE HINSONs\Desktop\TODAY FLASHING LITEON
02510C\FLASHING XBOX360\firmware\LTPlus-0251-v3.0.bin
Drive back into xbox all the lovely green lights will do its own stuff but suddenly a red light will appear at bottom right and stay on, the screen then will turn blackish with system error E64. I joined this wonderful caring Xbox-Scene in the last hour or so please forgive my ignorance. The guide you have provided will not open for me that's why I've chosen to use you as my first contact. Thanks to you or any one who can help.