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Well... after many convincing threads posted here at xbox-scene, I decided that an unmodded xbox is a useless xbox. My 360 gave out on me after 1 exact week of less than basic use with the 3 red lights of doom. I sent it back and its been about 2 weeks already without it.
After some deep thinking, I thought it would be better to make modifications and take precautions now instead of using them as repair methods later.
My work in progress consists just of that- my mods and precautions taken to aide in the prolonging life of my Xbox 360 console.
Todo List:
-Paint case (Duplicolor Metal Specks - Ocean Blue + White)
-Add a front fan header & 60mm fan as intake.
-Replace ROL LED's (blue + white checkerboard)
-Replace controller LED's (to match ROL on console)
-Replace stock rear fan with Talismoon WhisperFan.
-Replace TIM (thermal interface material) with Arctic Silver Ceramique.
-Add heat sinks onto the northbridge (chipset) and graphics card memory chips.
-Add case feet to the bottom of my 360.
--Replace XClamps?
I know every work-in-progress around here has pictures... so here are some of what I have just ordered!
(IMG:http://img.tutorialninjas.net/java/parts.jpg)
In the picture: 60mm fan, 40mm heatsink & fan, 60mm fan grill, Zalman RAM Heatsinks, 2x Rosewill 4-pin power cable splitters, 3 types of SMD LEDs (white, blue, and bright blue).
Lots more to look forward to in this mod (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
-Java (Tom)
This post has been edited by javaTN: Jun 28 2007, 12:25 AM
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Looks like christmas came early
What are you planning on using the 40mm HS and fan for?
also... what are the 4pin splitters for?
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i got the 40mm fan/heatsink just because thats how newegg sold it... i am only using it for the 40mm heatsink... maybe ill plop the fan somewhere too (on the bottom of my 360 like RBJTech?).
the 4-pin splitters were ordered to match my case (for no reason at all)... one will be cut and soldered on my 360 power supply plug so i can hook up 4-pin accessories (possibly talismoon aurora in the future)
you know what they say... christmas in July.
-java
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If youre planning on using the 40mm heatsink for the southbridge it wont work on the the account that its too big.
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ill figure something out then
for those of you who like pictures... im in a picture kind of mood now so i have some high quality, close up pictures of a strip of my SMDs.
this shows how small they really are!
the little yellow things you see on the bottom side are the actual SMDs in the strip.
small, eh?
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@JavaTN......
Lovin it - damn those ARE tiny! nice way to package them I guess!
Keep the Pics a Flowwing!
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well today my case feet came... they light up blue with LEDs so it will give my case that extra appeal.
my xbox should arrive sometime next week... im going to get my paint around Monday or something... possibly an extra controller too so ill have something to work on while i wait for my 360.
the benefit of the feet not only will look cool, but it helps the airflow under my case. i plan on adding the 40mm fan from the heatsink i bought onto the bottom of my case as intake. (that also lights up neon blue)
more to come!
-java
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QUOTE(javaTN @ Jun 29 2007, 05:17 PM)
well today my case feet came... they light up blue with LEDs so it will give my case that extra appeal.
I've personally never found feet on xbox's very appealing, it always makes it stand taller which I think is weird. But if you like it then far be it for me to tell you how to make your xbox This is going to be interesting to watch.
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MickRaider i have to agree with you on that.
i never really thought it would be cool to have feet on my xbox, but i figured if im going to have feet i mind as well make them look cool.
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i'm still waiting on the arrival of my 360 box... my Talismoon was supposed to come today but i was unable to receive it... i decided to pick up some paint today (and what ever sandpaper i could).... so have a pic:
What i bought: Grey primer, Metal Specks (Blue), Clear Coat, Auto Paint (White).
this baby is gonna be cool
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QUOTE(Zuneary Bypass @ Jul 3 2007, 04:51 AM)
imight just be me..but is the blue a candy? if it is, it needs a silver basecoat before it is put on.
It's not, duplicolor metal specks is the easiest to use metallic paint that is widely available. Just primer - sand - spray.
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i haven't had too much time today or yesterday to take a picture of this bad boy... but my Talismoon Whisper fan has arrived.... my 360 is expected to come tomorrow (i hope!).
im still wondering around to find 2000 grit sandpaper... none of my local auto shops supply it, so im going to go check some paint stores. so far i have 1000 grit.
the suspense is building up for me, lots of executive decisions to make as for where to put some fans, whether or not to do the xclamp mod as a preventive/precaution method.
more to come... soon!
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well today is the big day... my 360 has arrived! hot out of the oven, this is a newer refurbished model... its from 2006 so lets hope thats all good news.
ive got plenty of pictures for you today... and many more to come in these short days ahead!
if im on schedule correctly... tomorrow i will start replacing the Xclamps and possibly replace the ROL LED's... if by any chance my neighbor has a hole saw (because my dad forgot his at his work place)... then i can cut the hole for the fans i am adding and start to paint and sand.
the new box on arrival... the sweet smell of new
i decided to be extra cautious when trying out my 360 so i put it on some N64 game cartridges to allow airflow underneath.
...and i added a fan in front of it to keep it optimally cool for the time being. i had a keyboard hooked up too, i plan on buying a separate wireless one just for my 360.. the messaging feature is nice but its hard to type without a keyboard.
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Why dont you put the console NEXT to your tv instead of a cramped shelf?
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that would be a good idea but i prefer organization... yes i do want a working console... thats why im going to do all my mods... im also going to perforate the wood behind my 360 so the hot air has somewhere to go.
if i wasnt into neatness, i would have done that in a second.
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You could also put in fans in the back of the shelf instead of preforating it.
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i would... but i am trying to minimize the use of fans... yet keeping my 360 as cool as possible (without water cooling)... if i add any more fans to my room it will sound like an airport.
thx for the suggestion though!
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Hey JavaTN,
I just read through your topic and I was quite amused. Lol, I've never heard of using feet for your xbox 360, but more power to ya' if you can pull it off! I'm looking forward to seeing the completed project.
Anyway, just wanted to mention a few tips about the paint you're using. I recently used the duplicolor shimmering green metal specks paint and I noticed that if you really want a good looking shine & sparkle you need to coat it more than once. You should have plenty of paint, but if you're unsure about recoating, I would recommend it because it looks so much better.
If you need some 1500 or 2000 grit sandpaper, hit up eBay. I just bought some from cbcdesigns and he carries exactly what you need at an affordable price. His service was remarkable and he is a very good seller.
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Not to try and shut down your project idea but...why fix it if it isn't broken? =P
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QUOTE(Zeck @ Jul 7 2007, 12:35 PM)
Not to try and shut down your project idea but...why fix it if it isn't broken? =P
its a preventive method... also i dont want to wait till my 360 is broken to try and fix it... its warranty is gone (it doesn't have one under Microsoft in 1st place) and it would be a real accomplishment for me to do this.
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QUOTE(Zeck @ Jul 7 2007, 11:35 AM)
Not to try and shut down your project idea but...why fix it if it isn't broken? =P
if you werent aware you are in the case/hardware modding section. duh
QUOTE(darkmike57 @ Jul 6 2007, 10:45 PM)
Why dont you put the console NEXT to your tv instead of a cramped shelf?
i agree. the 360 is just going to be circulating hot air. if it wasnt such a nice EC you could cut a hole. i did but mine has a thick paper board backing. but what ever just my two cents.
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QUOTE(jeremybinkley @ Jul 8 2007, 01:32 AM)
the color scheme looks real familiar but i just cant seem to put my finger on it. oh ya it will turn out just like this.
And the problem with that is?....
It looks sweet! I'd rather have an unoriginal amazing looking box than a original one that looks so-so.
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that is a pretty sweet look.. the only factor i need to decide is which colors i want the faceplate to be... all blue except power button, or like the picture above or something else... give me some thoughts on that if you have any... im going to start painting tomorrow.
Updates:
today ive had a bit of time since the moment i got home from work to test my 360 and get it to work like mint.
thats just some of what i got at lowes today... a nice Torx small screwdriver set to use for my own personal needs.
$5 at Lowes if you want one.
Check next post for progress!
so here is some of the starting progress... the befores and afters... lots more to come!
i started to open my 360 up... it was easy, even without the "specialty" opening tool. took me about 5 minutes of fiddling.
today, i dug right in and started removing the Xclamps and replacing them and the thermal compound on the heatsinks. using a credit card is always a first step in the removal of old TIM (thermal interface material)... then following that is rubbing alcohol (92%) and q-tips. it was a heck of a job re-installing the heatsinks because i kept on forgetting to put washers in places... finally by the end of the day i got it right.
since microsofts original thermal goo wouldn't come off... i figured it wouldnt hurt for me to lap the heatsinks. it will help the contact in the future and will allow my artic silver to perform optimally. i used some of my 1000 grit sandpaper and the Figure 8 method.
and finally, the comparison of before lapping and after. its a big difference!
more to come, stick around!!!
-java
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as right as i got out of work today, i came home and had everything planned to do. so far all is well... and i have successfully replaced the Xclamps on my 360 (proof by picture coming soon).
so far today i have drilled the hole in my 360's top case which is where i will mount a fan for intake.
here are some of todays progress pics:
first i measured to the exact point where my fan would be mounted. my goal was to make it as center to the ring of light as possible.... looks are sometimes a determining factor
once i found the center point of the hole and made sure the fan would fit, i drilled a small hole as a placeholder for my hole saw.
im ready to drill the hole for the fan. this was something i could only do once.. pass or fail.
well, it looks like all is well. i used a deburring tool to round the edges on the new hole for the fan so it would have a smoother edge finish.
thats just some of what ive done today... so far... painting and faceplate disassembling are up next.
if you are reading this progress log, please help me decide whether or not i should put a fan grill on the fan and mount it with screws OR just hot glue the fan to the case so there are no screw holes or fan grill.
Mod on!
-java
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im already ahead of you... i used a soldering iron and melted the 2 joints where it holds the metal cover in... does it really serve a good purpose?
my dad said it might have something to do with blocking signals or something like that... so i figured i would keep it in for the most part. im just going to square out the place where my fan will go and eather hot glue it in or mount it via screws + fan grill.
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QUOTE(javaTN @ Jul 8 2007, 02:58 PM)
im already ahead of you... i used a soldering iron and melted the 2 joints where it holds the metal cover in... does it really serve a good purpose?
my dad said it might have something to do with blocking signals or something like that... so i figured i would keep it in for the most part. im just going to square out the place where my fan will go and eather hot glue it in or mount it via screws + fan grill.
Basically it blocks electro magnetic waves from leaving the xbox and interfering with things like televisions. Your xbox will be perfectly fine if you remove it and there's a tiny chance you might see some distortion in your TV, but chances are better you'll never notice a difference, I never have.
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well, ive got alot more instore and upcoming... for tonight here is what ive done:
i took apart my faceplate i also have a video (link to be posted soon)... its my strategy on taking the faceplate apart... REALLY EASY & easy to put back together.
this is a start on opening the hard drive enclosure... take a torx 6 driver and i just went right through the sticker.
the hard drive has been disassembled. ready for painting
i cut the holes in my case so i could put the on/off switch in for my case feet. all of the external work (holes etc) should be done by tomorrow so i can start painting (by tomorrow morning or so).
this is what ill call the "x" hole. i drilled it tonight so i can put a nice 80mm fan underneath my 360 to get some circulation (pull the hot air out) from under the case.
for all of you non-believers (right )... this is my take on the xclamp removal (lawdawg)... i am astonished by the horrible design of the Xclamps and the "purpose they served".
ive got more coming tomorrow... this is all turning out pretty good
ETF (Estimated time of finish): 2 days. (7/10/07)
-java
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for those of you awaiting my little video on removal of the ROL button and other flaps on the Xbox 360 faceplate, this is my take on it:
http://tutorialninja...f-light-button/
I used a soldering iron to heat ever so slightly the joints... while pulling with minor force and they would slide right off!
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I LOVE YOUR WIP!!
could you tell me were you got the stuff for the xclamp replacement, I cant find any of the m5s
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qweewqaz, thanks!
the M5s are just machine screws... pan head.
the ones i have are measured .80 x 10
if you have a Lowes near you they are item #138433. (total of 8 pieces)
i used flat nylon washers (#10).. they are Lowes item #139065. (total of 16 pieces)
i also used flat metal washers (5mm).. they are Lowes item #138319. (total of 16 pieces)
these were "Hillman" brand... so if you happen to go to another hardware store they are Hillman number:
screws = #880736
nylon washers = #881544
metal washers = #880765
heres an image for reference:
-java
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Thanks but none of the lowes in my valley carry them so Ill see about going down their tomorrow and placing a special order. Also with the screws you chose do you have to drill the metal cage to fit them? (pan head?)
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METAL CASE | SCREW > METAL WASHER > NYLON WASHER | MAINBOARD | NYLON WASHER > METAL WASHER > HEATSINK
pan head is a fancy word just meaning that its not just flat, or just round. its flat on the top but rounded in the edges.
-java
EDIT: If you are buying the exact packages i have, you will need 4 packages of screws, 2 packages of metal washers, and 4 packages of nylon washers.
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thanks i just went down to lowes and found eveything so ill do it tomorrow thanks
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today was quite a busy day. despite my lack of time through the day to get assorted things done like drilling holes and finishing case modding ive made some good progress.
its really late right now so im going to post this, go off to sleep, wake up and put a start of blue on my 360 and go off on a 1 day get-away.
first today i decided to start some painting. i would be out all day so it would be a good opportunity for the paint to dry. aside from that, the behind the scenes work prior to this picture was to wash the three pieces and then wet sand them with some 1000 grit to give it an extra strength paint bond... so in this picture i had started to put some primer on.
next, i ran out of the house and on a tour of the Princeton plasma physics labratorys. while i was out, i stopped at my dads machine shop and started to map out where i was going to exactly place and drill holes for my case feet. (behind the scenes we took a dremel like tool (basically a dremel with a flexible neck) and used one of the grinding bits on it to sand down the original case feet.)
in this picture we were on the drill press, drilling the holes for the case feet. our measurements were so perfect that each case foot, fit snug in its own hole. "luck of the Irish" (and im not even irish!)
immediately when i got home i started to lightly wetsand my final coat of primer on the 3 small pieces and then started to paint white. for the most part they turned out acceptable (i ran out of paint), however after going through homestrech to get this modification done... i am going to get another can of white paint so i can really complete the job.
lastly, since i had finished the painting of the three white pieces i started to prime my main case... now that all of the holes were drilled and modifications were done (externally).
thats all for now... tomorrow things should be coming to a wrap up.
a quick refresher of progress:
Todo List:
-Paint case (Duplicolor Metal Specks - Ocean Blue + White)
-Add a front fan header & 60mm fan as intake.
-Replace ROL LED's (blue + white checkerboard)
-Replace controller LED's (to match ROL on console)
-Replace stock rear fan with Talismoon WhisperFan.
-Replace TIM (thermal interface material) with Arctic Silver Ceramique.
-Add heat sinks onto the northbridge (chipset) and graphics card memory chips.
-Add case feet to the bottom of my 360.
--Replace XClamps?
-java
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Hey man i love were your going with this, Your focus on cooling and thats a good thing lol,
But my question is, would the 80mm fan on the bottom be better to push air in, rather then take the air out?
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QUOTE(FILTHY J NASTY @ Jul 10 2007, 12:31 PM)
Hey man i love were your going with this, Your focus on cooling and thats a good thing lol,
But my question is, would the 80mm fan on the bottom be better to push air in, rather then take the air out?
hey FILTHY J NASTY,
cooling is a very important factor to me... especially on electronics like the Xbox 360 and other computers. this is a hard decision on deciding which way to have the bottom fan blow air because there are many factors. i am no scientist, but these are my logistics:
it is better to pull the air out of the bottom of the case than to pull in because there is not alot of room for air to escape once it is pulled in. if i have the fan pull the air out of the case, it will get rid of the hot air underneath the board and the hot air will have escaped the case.
do you understand what im trying to say?
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you want to blow the cool air in, at the components. it will aid in cooling the underside of the mobo. thats the part of the case that gets real hot after a while.
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where does all the hot air go after it has cooled off the components?
the pink line inside the case you see represents the presence of hot air... its just going to hang around.
if i have the fans pull the air out, then there is no need to worry about where the hot air dissipate to.
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Air vents at the bottom....
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youve made a good point, i forgot they were there....
i think ill go it as intake now
on a side note:
i started to paint my 360 with my metal specks blue only to find that my dad, when he bought the can didnt LOOK UNDER THE CAP AND SEE IF THE CAN WAS TAMPERED WITH... so i am pretty pissed off that i am unable to paint my 360... someone sprayed the can and clogged the cap. ive tried replacing the cap but the can is all messed up and spattering... i am hoping i can go to Autozone (instead of Pepboys) and buy a new can or two.
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the air also gets pulled by the rear fans, because the fans sit in a dip in the metal case. i think it was designed to do that.
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well today i didn't get to do much... unfortunately as you know, i found out the metallic blue paint can had been used before (in store)... and the nozzle was clogged and the can was 1/2 full. however... i took some time tonight before going to sleep to change the LEDs on my controller and remove the LEDs from the ring of light on the console... heres a classic video of mine with the new LEDs in action:
YouTube - Modded Xbox 360 Controler LEDs
-java
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classic video lol? i cant wait to see the finished product tomorrow,you should also light the x on your controller. also I did the xclamp stuff so thanks java My box is alot kooler now
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shit! i have no idea what went wrong... and i don't think anything was removed or burned... this is very scary because today after replacing a few LEDs on my ROL... i turn it on to find no image on the screen... the worst part about it is that i dont have the secondary colors to see which error message i am getting.
this project has been put on hold for the time being... lets hope i can somehow fix it or something, find out how to see which error code i am getting because for now there is no point in finishing this mod unless the xbox actually works.
for those of you who think you can help me, here are some details:
i turn on my 360 and after about 5 seconds the fans in the rear turn up really loud. i cant see any error codes because i dont have secondary LED's... ive tried measuring voltages to "see" which LEDs would be lit up... but all of the secondary points read 0.05volts (out of 20v DC)... when i measure the voltage for the main ROL light, it shows 2.50volts (lit up)... im very scared here that this project is gone to waste.
help me if you can!
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update:
well now it seems that when i turn my 360 on and wait about 5 seconds or so... the fans just shut off but the power light stays on... i dont know whats up with this!!!
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If your washers or screws are touching the motherboard directly make sure they're not touching any traces. I had the same thing happen (rising fan speed). I took the heatsinks off, cleaned everything THOROUGHLY, and made sure nothing was touching the traces, put it back together and everything was fine.
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yeah just scrap everything and put it together again and check if you went threw any traces
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the hardest thing to know is that i didnt solder or touch any other part on the board... it was only the AUX (fan) port and the rear main power source... other than that the areas where my screws are screwed in for my heatsinks are scratched minor because of when i was trying to pry the xclamps off... the thing is that it worked when i replaced my Xclamps the first time... this really sucks!
could a broken RF board cause my 360 to not work right? i just dont get this... the green light on my power supply will stay on when my xbox is eather running the fan really loud or when it shuts the fans off... but the main power light on the ROL will stay lit... this is so hard to understand!
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sorry for my lack of update... ive been in a pickle trying to get my 360 back up and running.
unfortunately, it seems as if my 360s mainboard is bust for no reason at all... so i am going to try and purchase a brand new 360 motherboard as soon as i can get my hands on one.
the good news is that i have decided to continue with this project no matter what it takes, because i have put in alot of money and effort and time, so it would be a real let down to just let it go to waste.
...so here are some pictures!!!
my case... all done and painted. clear coated and the whole 9 yards. it turned out pretty sweet!
my finished controller... it had just been test assembled to see how things would fit and look... at the moment its all together, painted... with a working blue & white ring of light... so sexy!
today i decided that after having my case, and controller painted... i mind as well do something to the xbox headset... so i decided to take apart the connector and paint it white so it will match with my controller. (currently, it only has a prime coat on... im going to be painting it white tonight).
i hope i can bring more to you in less of a wait... it all depends on how fast i can get my hands on a 360 motherboard.
-java
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Controller looks good. Hope the motherboard situation goes well.
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yeah, the metal specks are limited in color choice... and the blue is pretty popular.
i will soon show a picture of my faceplate, i just need to do a few final things to finish it up.
thanks for the luck darkmike... ill be needing it.
-java
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thank you all for your comments and motivation! its really helps.
the show must go on... so here are some pictures to start with:
i know you wanted to see my finished shiny faceplate... there it is!
i think the item i painted best was my hard drive... it just really... gets me.
and now for some good news?!
by tonight i should have my hands on a brand new xbox 360... motherboard and the whole shabang... im not going to ditch this project, ill just have 2 xboxes. you gotta do what you gotta do, right?
oh.... i should get it by Thursday or Friday.
stick around & don't go anywhere!!!
-java
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quick update:
i never showed you guys my finished controller... its sweet!!!!!
blue & white LEDs on it in a checkerboard fashion (as seen in my video posted earlier)
here is its debut in final assembly!
she is smokinnn!
what do y'all think?
im proud of my self for the most part; this was my first time really painting anything worth while.
-java
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good news tonight!
i have a new 360 on its way! if everything goes the way i hope it should, as in my new xbox works and doesn't have any problems... then i should have a working, modded, xbox 360 by Saturday.
i decided ill skip the fan header mod and just do the molex mod... just to be safe.
wish me luck with this new 360... i hope i don't have an unlucky hand.
-java
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anything new?
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QUOTE(qweewqaz @ Jul 20 2007, 01:24 PM)
anything new?
heck yeah brother!
today i just received my new Xbox 360 around 1 hour ago... i am so excited!
pictures to come! i decided ill skip the fan header mod and just do the molex one, because i will be able to power the other fan from it still.
other than that... im going to do the soldering tomorrow (hopefully my neighbor can get a hold of his high powered soldering iron) and i should be good to go... lets just hope this new xbox has no faults.
-java
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QUOTE(javaTN @ Jul 20 2007, 11:49 AM)
heck yeah brother!
you remind me of hulk hogan lol
i hope everything goes to plan, post some pics of your new work later today. Is your neighbor going to be soldering for you or your just borrowing his iron?
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that paint is HOTT.
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QUOTE(qweewqaz @ Jul 21 2007, 10:25 AM)
you remind me of hulk hogan lol
i hope everything goes to plan, post some pics of your new work later today. Is your neighbor going to be soldering for you or your just borrowing his iron?
i just need to borrow his iron.. he actually works for some kind of circuit board company and the soldering iron i have (30w) just isnt enough to melt the solder where the main power source is... so he can let me borrow a good iron to do the job right.
well... you asked for it, and im giving it to you. so heres pics for today!
i received a new box in the mail just yesterday... i cant really make out what could be in the box.
so, like any curious person would do... when you have a box addressed to you, you open it... so i did!
and this is what i found in that 'box':
a new xbox 360!!! yay! i love to support microsoft! NOT!
meanwhile... once i got my hands on my new Xbox 360, i decided to give it a test run with some gears of war to be sure it was working. i let it cool down for a bit, then "cracked" it open and got right to work!
i replaced the Xclamps without scratching the board at all this time... (sorry no pics on this, it would be too redundant and my camera ran out of battery) and re-assembled my 360 for a test run and left it on for a few hours for my arctic silver to settle in.
it turns out that my neighbor is going to a BBQ today, and since this is a piece of equipment i do not own, he would like to supervise its use. i will be doing the soldering tomorrow (sunday) in the afternoon (or should be)... so cross my fingers and pray to the lord that by tomorrow my Xbox doesn't deteriorate in its case or malfunction after i mod it.
thanks all for the comments and complements, you are a real motivating group!
-java
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QUOTE(javaTN @ Jul 21 2007, 05:02 PM)
it turns out that my neighbor is going to a BBQ today, and since this is a piece of equipment i do not own, he would like to supervise its use. i will be doing the soldering tomorrow (sunday) in the afternoon (or should be)... so cross my fingers and pray to the lord that by tomorrow my Xbox doesn't deteriorate in its case or malfunction after i mod it.
my intention was to mean that the "piece of equipment i do not own" is the soldering iron... not the xbox 360, because i own that.
i dont want to confuse anyone.
-java
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QUOTE(javaTN @ Jul 21 2007, 11:56 PM)
my intention was to mean that the "piece of equipment i do not own" is the soldering iron... not the xbox 360, because i own that.
i dont want to confuse anyone.
-java
Supervising the use of a 10 dollar soldering iron?
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QUOTE(chaot1c @ Jul 21 2007, 05:03 PM)
Supervising the use of a 10 dollar soldering iron?
No hes the one with the $10 iron. His neighbor supposedly has a better one. But i can solder onto those spots under the psu without a problem with my 30w iron.
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QUOTE(darkmike57 @ Jul 21 2007, 06:10 PM)
No hes the one with the $10 iron. His neighbor supposedly has a better one. But i can solder onto those spots under the psu without a problem with my 30w iron.
the one i have right now is 15 or 30w... its from radioshack only meant for small use... its nothing to worthy.
my neighbors is higher power and quality (cost atleast 100$).. and owned by a company. if anything were to go wrong he would be held accountable... so thats why he supervises.
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i use a 30w, works perfectly, no need for 100$ stuff.
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Yea a radioshack 30w is perfect for soldering. The top turns to shit after about a week if you dont take care of it.
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QUOTE(darkmike57 @ Jul 22 2007, 03:08 AM)
Yea a radioshack 30w is perfect for soldering. The top turns to shit after about a week if you dont take care of it.
15 W is better for all purposes casemodding, because 30 w can be a bit much for things like the ROL and other small components.
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you should of filled in the xb-and half and o, on the bottom of your case before you painted it
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well, i promised you guys one thing, and that promise was to have this done by Sunday. I have successfully modded my Xbox 360, and i plan on modding another in the mere future.
My neighbor came over my house immediately preceding work and we got right on the job. The soldering was a piece of cake, considering that we had all the right tools to use.
To save bandwidth and alot of my time, i compiled many of the images i took into one, so you can easily see comparisons or different views.
I am not sure if i plan on doing any more modding to this xbox, though i still have to mod my ring of light LEDs (i will do that when ever i get the time).
to start off today, here are some pictures. please comment them. give me your opinion or suggestion. i love to hear your ideas and feedback, it helps me get better.
my fan has been screwed and mounted on the bottom of my case.
the messy, yet as neat as i could get wiring of the LED case feet and my fan... all mumbo jumbo... but it works
the finished top and bottom looks of my case... complete with fans, case feet, and what other beauty is included.
the finished, cleanly soldered, molex connection. it took only about 10 minutes to do total, but the preparation i took was beyond sufficient. time is money, and man... this really works great!
check my next post for some of my finalizations!!!
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by the end of the game, i decided to go with some flexible engraving material from my dad, which was used for my fan shroud separator and other assorted pieces for thermal dynamics.
i didn't get the chance to take pictures of all of this step by step, but i think this is a sufficient way to wrap things up. short and to the point... you want to see the end!
i made sure to tape every wire and excess piece of material safely and securely together so i would only lose minimal airflow.... its also a neatness kind of thing.
and finally, the clock had been ticking for the last two hours and finally it came to a halt.... it was right around 8:25 PM when I wrapped everything up, inspected and secured every wire connection and then decided to power on my modded Xbox 360.
you guys know it, my 360 came alive! i really couldn't believe at first that this was actually my xbox, just because of the amount of effort i had put into modding a video game console.
so now, i have a working Xbox 360 and i couldn't be happier with my success.
-java
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looks wicked man! I really like the little pegs that you installed to allow for better air flow under the 360 (if it actually does ) Looks very neat and simple. I really like the fan grill, looks really stock.
Anyways grats man! looks awesome!
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thanks BVlaar, the feet on the bottom of my 360 actually do tremendously increase the airflow... they keep it cool because they pull the air out of my case... it was really a worth-wile mod.
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is there a hole in the bottom of the metal cage? if not the fan on the bottom is pointless. also if you were to put a hole in the bottom of the cage you need to reverse the fan. so cool air will go over the ram chips and keep the bottom of the board from warping. #1 cause of red lights is board flexing.
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thats a whole latta tape!
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QUOTE(qweewqaz @ Jul 23 2007, 08:36 PM)
thats a whole latta tape!
yep, but those wires ain't goin' anywhere.
btw, thanks for answering the question for me C.K
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i still think you need to reverse the fan.
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Just went through all the pages, this is a sweet wip. At least not anymore, turned out very well!
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QUOTE(Navillos @ Jul 24 2007, 02:49 AM)
i still think you need to reverse the fan.
Cough* + 1 *Cough
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QUOTE(FILTHY J NASTY @ Jul 23 2007, 11:22 PM)
Cough* + 1 *Cough
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i still have another part 2 of this WIP coming along... thats all about thermal dynamics and other random cooling issues... facts show that fans pull air better than they push. in addition, its better to get rid of the hot air then to put 'cool' air in because it doesnt have alot of room to go, and hot air rises. when i pull the hot air out of the case it will leave the system.
im open to all other opinions, facts, and other textual resources.
-java
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when your fans suck the air out of your box the hot air rises to the bottom of your case and heats up the metal cage which heats up your box
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it makes more sence to push the air into the xbox through the bottom
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All of you guys have a good point on this one... and from what I will say, it goes down to the logics of things.
Ill take temperature readings for different areas of my xbox, and then apply them to other scenarios (such as reversed fan airflow direction, etc).