Post by: Xbox-Scene on August 30, 2007, 09:38:00 AM
XCM White 360 HDMI 1080i cable (for regular white Xbox 360) Posted by XanTium | August 30 11:02 EST | News Category: Xbox360 |
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Post by: prplehz on August 30, 2007, 08:38:00 AM
Post by: SphtKr76 on August 30, 2007, 08:49:00 AM
QUOTE(prplehz @ Aug 30 2007, 09:14 AM) 
I think I will just let my Plasma convert it to digital. As it has been doing a fine job so far....
Exactly. The main advantage of HDMI is in keeping the signal digital the whole way, and not having to do the digital>analog>digital conversion. I can't see this cable actually having any real benefit.
Post by: diddyk on August 30, 2007, 09:31:00 AM
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Post by: d-range on August 30, 2007, 09:02:00 AM
Post by: elmo_sni on August 30, 2007, 09:25:00 AM
Post by: Ryan87500 on August 30, 2007, 09:50:00 AM
Post by: africamagical on August 30, 2007, 09:54:00 AM
QUOTE(diddyk @ Aug 30 2007, 04:31 PM)
1080i ?
Why would you even need this cable if it isn't 1080p All 1080 TV's will support 1080i over component but only samsung will support 1080p over component. This cable if only 1080i will not be any better then the cable that is supplied by Microsoft. I have a Sony kds60 A2000 which only accepts 1080p over hdmi so I had to go on ebay and buy a component to hdmi converter for $30 and now I have 1080p on my nice 60 in 
I wouldn't recommend this to anyone that already had component inputs as it will do no better then what you already have.you realize that through all of this conversion, and likely shitty quality adapter from ebay, you are ending up with no better of a picture than a native 720p set, given that its the native res of almost all 360 games
and all of this resolution hype 1080 vs 720 is kinda stupid, your eye can notice other things much more easily,
my buddy has a sceptre 1080p set and it looks like crap compared to my 720p samsung lcd tv,
the colors look washed out on his set, plus in games like fight night, you notice slight ghositng.
Post by: slipstream on August 30, 2007, 10:08:00 AM
QUOTE(africamagical @ Aug 30 2007, 05:30 PM)
you realize that through all of this conversion, and likely shitty quality adapter from ebay, you are ending up with no better of a picture than a native 720p set, given that its the native res of almost all 360 games
and all of this resolution hype 1080 vs 720 is kinda stupid, your eye can notice other things much more easily,
my buddy has a sceptre 1080p set and it looks like crap compared to my 720p samsung lcd tv,
the colors look washed out on his set, plus in games like fight night, you notice slight ghositng.
the ghosting and color saturation is not related to the resolution, its more likely that his set, while 1080p, is just built at a lower quality
Post by: dom0012 on August 30, 2007, 10:21:00 AM
Post by: elmo_sni on August 30, 2007, 11:12:00 AM
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Post by: sunkist09 on August 30, 2007, 10:38:00 AM
Post by: tabsaid on August 30, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
Post by: HansiHusten on August 30, 2007, 11:37:00 AM
My vote is for 720p.
Post by: bucko on August 30, 2007, 12:04:00 PM
It wouldn't affect me anyway since I'm getting a Elite and soon a HD-DVD drive.
HDMI is only good for HDCP i've read time and time again there is no difference between Component and HDMI. The only difference is HDMI is digital and you can't really notice that.
Post by: sinister slipknot on August 30, 2007, 12:35:00 PM
QUOTE(dom0012 @ Aug 30 2007, 05:57 PM)
i swear ive seen this posted like 3 times now...
Same, its been posted loads, and still only concept pictures.
Post by: wolrahnaes on August 30, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
The analog->digital conversion WILL sacrifice quality compared to the internal converters in quality TVs if this thing is anywhere close to cheap.
The only semi-logical excuse for buying any <insert analog interface here> to DVI/HDMI adapter I've ever heard was if you're low on inputs, and in that case a standalone switch like the (remote controlled) ones Monoprice sells for $35 make more sense. This cable will certainly be more expensive and since it's built specifically for the Xbox 360 it has limited utility, on top of the aforementioned quality concerns.
Post by: MickRaider on August 30, 2007, 04:11:00 PM
The only way this could be a success is if it was cheaply priced, and I don't see xecuter going below 80. And I personally couldn't imagine paying more then 40 for something like this, 50 might be a stretch.
And the only technological reason I see for getting this would be to free up a component port, or if you have no component ports (like a monitor).
Post by: flashfreak on August 30, 2007, 06:08:00 PM
Post by: proger on August 30, 2007, 06:41:00 PM
Man, I hate companies.
Open Source Hackers, and DIY-ers are awesome. Expensive, Pointless products are not.
Post by: quarky42 on August 30, 2007, 06:45:00 PM
If this cable will somehow fool the console into letting me select "fullscreen" aspect at 1080i. That would be awesome! I don't know what idiot back at Microsoft decided to dictate that if you had 1080 or 720 capability that you MUST automatically want/have widescreen....
I have a large Toshiba TV that has full 1080i support, but it is a FULLSCREEN TV!!! I've played games on it with letterbox and the graphics are SUPER crisp, but I HATE how small everything looks.
If this cable will somehow let me use FULLSCREEN, that would be great, but I think that is a Microshaft limitation unfortunately... on the other hand, if I could get the XBOX to think that it was outputting via VGA at 1024x768 or at another resolution like that, and convert that to HDMI that would be cool....but the only adapters I've found for that cost hundreds of dollars.
I just want to be able to play in HiDef and stay in FULLSCREEN....I don't see why that is too much to ask: Let the user have control over the aspect ratio!!! Fucking Microshaft!
EDIT: My TV will not take HDMI-A.... it will only take HDMI-D inputs. So since this converts it to a digital signal, then perhaps there is hope.
Post by: mylakerye on August 30, 2007, 06:57:00 PM
Post by: Lifter on August 30, 2007, 07:08:00 PM
QUOTE(quarky42 @ Aug 31 2007, 02:21 AM)
I would buy it *IF* and ONLY IF:
If this cable will somehow fool the console into letting me select "fullscreen" aspect at 1080i. That would be awesome! I don't know what idiot back at Microsoft decided to dictate that if you had 1080 or 720 capability that you MUST automatically want/have widescreen....
I have a large Toshiba TV that has full 1080i support, but it is a FULLSCREEN TV!!! I've played games on it with letterbox and the graphics are SUPER crisp, but I HATE how small everything looks.
Idiots at Microsoft dictating 16:9? Ummm, last I checked, all HD content is 16:9. Movies, TV Shows, and games. And if you have a problem with it, most TV sets let you adjust AR. It's not up to the source device (Xbox 360) to scale oddball ARs for people who want the image squished or cropped because they're allergic to black bars.
You're the one who purchased a 4:3 HDTV set. Who's the idiot?
Post by: team_toyo on August 30, 2007, 09:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Lifter @ Aug 30 2007, 08:44 PM)
Idiots at Microsoft dictating 16:9? Ummm, last I checked, all HD content is 16:9. Movies, TV Shows, and games. And if you have a problem with it, most TV sets let you adjust AR. It's not up to the source device (Xbox 360) to scale oddball ARs for people who want the image squished or cropped because they're allergic to black bars.
You're the one who purchased a 4:3 HDTV set. Who's the idiot?
Thats no lie.
Yet I could see the benifit of haveing this cable. I have a 32" ILO HD LCD. Not the best brand, but it looks good, and is crisp. The problem with it is that it only displays 1080i thru component, but will display 1080p thru HDMI, so to have that cable would be great for me, considering I can get true progressive Scan out of this TV Finally.
Post by: The_Flash on August 30, 2007, 09:29:00 PM
Sorry. I really "enjoyed" the product description.
Post by: idog on August 31, 2007, 05:33:00 AM
My PS3 takes up one HDMI. The 360 is currently on component and my Wii is on the analog.
Since I have a component Wii cable, the HDMI solution from XCM would be good for me.
I'd switch the 360 to the second HDMI then (still have 720p) and put the Wii on the component one.
Or if anyone has another solution ? (component switchbox perhaps ? vgacable for the 360 (but is this also 720p ?) ?
Post by: avatar1976 on August 31, 2007, 05:36:00 AM
Post by: wolrahnaes on August 31, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
QUOTE(quarky42 @ Aug 30 2007, 09:21 PM)
EDIT: My TV will not take HDMI-A.... it will only take HDMI-D inputs. So since this converts it to a digital signal, then perhaps there is hope.
There's no such thing as HDMI-A. There's DVI-I which carries VGA signals over certain pins of the DVI connector but that part was never brought in to the HDMI standard because it's pointless.
QUOTE(mylakerye @ Aug 30 2007, 09:33 PM)
vga to dvi is how the pimps do it those converters are like 2-3 bucks
Only works if your TV/display takes DVI-I and not just DVI-D, plus as said above it's just VGA on a different connector. Not digital, no gains over straight VGA.
QUOTE(Lifter @ Aug 30 2007, 09:44 PM)
You're the one who purchased a 4:3 HDTV set. Who's the idiot?
Quoted for truth. I've never seen why 4:3 HDTV sets were ever made. 720p and the 1080s are standardized ONLY at 16:9. HDTV is by definition 100% pure widescreen only, buying a 4:3 HDTV was a dumb choice.
Post by: edwinmcdunlap on September 01, 2007, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: iwanttheagrocrag on September 03, 2007, 10:07:00 AM
Post by: mace1337 on September 03, 2007, 02:21:00 PM
QUOTE(idog @ Aug 31 2007, 02:09 PM)
My Samsung 32" has 2 HDMI ports, one component, a vga, and a few analog ports as well.
My PS3 takes up one HDMI. The 360 is currently on component and my Wii is on the analog.
Since I have a component Wii cable, the HDMI solution from XCM would be good for me.
I'd switch the 360 to the second HDMI then (still have 720p) and put the Wii on the component one.
Or if anyone has another solution ? (component switchbox perhaps ? vgacable for the 360 (but is this also 720p ?) ?
Put your PS3 on the HDMI, the Wii on Component and your 360 on VGA.
The 360 does 720p over VGA, hell it even does 1080p so you have no need for this product.