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Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: kasek on February 02, 2020, 06:36:00 PM

Hey I did the mod and my wiring is good. I plug in my 15" monitor and the menu on the screen pops up saying out of range does this mean my monitor is to small?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: JrDK on September 24, 2013, 08:45:00 AM

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Jun 18 2006, 04:52 AM)

The motherboard:

You obviously need to open your Xbox 360 (bye bye warranty, it's only 3 months anyways who cares), and remove your motherboard from the metal shielding (please be aware of static electricity, it will damage your mobo if you're not careful), we will be soldering to the bottom side of the board, under the audio/video plug.

Each pin is conviently numbered on the board (going across it goes 2, 6, 10, 14... then 4, 8, 12, 16, 20... then 1, 5, 9, 13, 17... then 3, 7, 11, 15...)

IPB Image

Starting on top left, then moving across:

Pins 2, 6, 10, 14, 18, 22, 26, 1, 5, 9, 13, 27 (black) - Ground (they're all connected to each other so it does not matter which ground pin you use.
Pin 4 (green) - Green output (VGA)
Pin 8 (blue) - Blue output (VGA)
Pin 12 (purple) - V-sync (VGA)
Pin 16 (white) - Left (Audio)
Pin 20 (yellow) - VGA Mode select (hook to VGA Pin 11, Monitor_ID)
Pin 3 (Red) - Red (VGA)
Pin 11 (orange) - H-sync (VGA)
Pin 15 (Red) - Right (audio)

OK, solder up all your points (easier said than done, just take your time and triple check that all your connections are correct)

End of part II

so guys, if I need to make a simple audio extension mod wit rca connectors, I can simply use pin 16(white) for left audio, and pin 15(red) for right audio right? is that possible? if so, what about the grounds for audio? or will audio work without any ground? im pretty sure a ground is required here, where do I add the ground from if this is AT ALL even possible.

im targeting an Audio Only mod. nothing extra. thanks guys

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on June 17, 2006, 09:52:00 PM

All right, with the new update improving the look of the picture on VGA, I thought I'd release my method of wiring up a VGA port to the back of the 360, so you can use a standard VGA cable to hook up the 360 to a monitor.

The new method involves a way I discovered to have the 360 automatically switch between VGA mode and normal A/V mode depending on if there is a monitor hooked up to the 360 or not (uses pin 11: monitor_ID).

This tut also includes installing a 3.5mm headphone jack so you can also hook up your PC speakers. The audio output is active all the time, regardless of if you're using the VGA plug or a regualr A/V cable, though you could jsut as easily use another tutorial to wire up a coaxial/optical S/PDIF output instead.

So, let's get on with it!

Required materials:

Xbox 360
Female 15 pin (VGA) port
Female 3.5mm stereo headphone jack (I had some spares laying around from Samsung 616T dvd-rom mods)
A buncha pieces of wire (about 24-26 gague works fine)
Some coaxial audio cable (hacking up an old pair of headphones works great)
Soldering iron
Dremel or other tool to cut the metal shield and case so you can get to your new VGA port

Wiring:

We'll start by saying this: it looks difficult, but it's not really that hard. The solder points are fairly large, it's not like the Xbox 1 D0 point or anything.

The colors of the pins on the pictures of the Xbox360 motherboard and the audio/vga ports correspond, but I will also give pin numbers.

First, the VGA port (shown from the back side, the side you should be soldering to. Pin 1 is top left. Pins and their corresponding grounds are circled together (is important later)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0040.jpg)

Pin 1: (Red) - Red output
Pin 2: (Green) - Green output
Pin 3: (blue) - Blue output
Pin 5: (black) - H-sync Ground
Pins 6-8: (black) - Red, green, and blue grounds
Pin 10: (black) - V-sync ground
Pin 11: (Yellow) - Monitor_ID (sets video mode to VGA in xbox 360)
Pin 13: (orange) - H-sync
Pin 14: (purple) - V-sync

Begin by putting a ~ 6 inch piece of wire on each of the data pins, and a different color of wire for the grounds, so you don't get confused.

Now, there's a reason why each pair of wires on the picture is circled. To reduce interferance in the wires, you must twist each data pin (except Monitor_ID) around its corresponding ground, the ground wire will shield the data pin from interferance.

So, you will have 5 twisted pairs coming off the VGA port, plus Monitor_ID. (it helps to label them by sticking a small piece of tape to each pair and writing R,G,B,H, and V on them).

The audio jack (the top of the picture is the end that the plug goes in):

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0041.jpg)

Top: (black) - Ground
Middle: (red) - Right
Bottom: (white) - Left

Take your piece of audio coax, strip back the shielding on it and twist it up and solder it to the ground pin on the jack.

Then, solder one of the center wires to the red, and the other to the black (if your piece of coax only has one center wire you need to use two pieces, but if you got the wire from an old pair of headphones it will usually have two condutcors inside, or it will be two pieces of coax already stuck together)

End of Part I

Part II

The motherboard:

You obviously need to open your Xbox 360 (bye bye warranty, it's only 3 months anyways who cares), and remove your motherboard from the metal shielding (please be aware of static electricity, it will damage your mobo if you're not careful), we will be soldering to the bottom side of the board, under the audio/video plug.

Each pin is conviently numbered on the board (going across it goes 2, 6, 10, 14... then 4, 8, 12, 16, 20... then 1, 5, 9, 13, 17... then 3, 7, 11, 15...)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0039.jpg)

Starting on top left, then moving across:

Pins 2, 6, 10, 14, 18, 22, 26, 1, 5, 9, 13, 27 (black) - Ground (they're all connected to each other so it does not matter which ground pin you use.
Pin 4 (green) - Green output (VGA)
Pin 8 (blue) - Blue output (VGA)
Pin 12 (purple) - V-sync (VGA)
Pin 16 (white) - Left (Audio)
Pin 20 (yellow) - VGA Mode select (hook to VGA Pin 11, Monitor_ID)
Pin 3 (Red) - Red (VGA)
Pin 11 (orange) - H-sync (VGA)
Pin 15 (Red) - Right (audio)

OK, solder up all your points (easier said than done, just take your time and triple check that all your connections are correct)

End of part II

This post has been edited by G0t M4xx 21: Aug 13 2006, 06:03 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on June 17, 2006, 10:04:00 PM

You should have something that looks like this:

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0042.jpg)

By this point all the wiring is done, so feel free to go test it (jsut don't test it for too long, cause chances are your cooling solution isn't up to spec since you prolly have your motherboard just sitting on the ground.)

With no monitor plugged in, you will jsut get the normal 4 red lights (no A/V cable connected), and the 360 will function normally with the normal A/V cables. But, plug in a monitor, and it pulls the Monitor_ID pin low, triggering VGA mode, and viola!

Part III

Mounting, and case cutting

So, lets get it finished

The best way to mount the VGA plug and headphone jack is to solder it to the top of the A/V port, allowing you to easily install/remove the motherboard, since everything is mounted to the motherboard itself. You're gonna need a pretty beefy soldering iron for this.

Just solder it up:

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0043.jpg)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0046.jpg)

For the headphone jack, I soldered the ground leg of the plug to the A/V plug shield, since it is also ground. Be caseful not to let any of the other pins touch the shield.

Then, mark and cut in the main chassis so that the VGA plug will fir through (leave a ~1mm gap around the plug so the outside of the VGA cable can go all the way in)

(IMG:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v285/g0t_m4xx_21/VGA/mini-IMG_0044.jpg)

Now go do the same thing in your outside case.

Just trim off some plastic on the fan so it will clear the cables running to the underside of the mobo, and you're done!

Now congradulate yourself on saving some cash, and having a real VGA plug in your 360 like a PC!

This post has been edited by G0t M4xx 21: Jun 18 2006, 05:07 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Foe-hammer on June 17, 2006, 11:29:00 PM

Great!

Thanks for the time and effort you put into making this tutorial.

This looks like the next big project i'll being doing on my 360, as soon as i decide on a color for replacing the original case with.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: xboxexpert on June 18, 2006, 12:36:00 AM

Added to Tutorials located here.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: liqwidsky on June 18, 2006, 05:40:00 PM

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Jun 17 2006, 11:59 PM)

This tut also includes installing a 3.5mm headphone jack so you can also hook up your PC speakers. The audio output is active all the time, regardless of if you're using the VGA plug or a regualr A/V cable, though you could jsut as easily use another tutorial to wire up a coaxial/optical S/PDIF output instead.

I can't find any tutorials about wiring optical or spdif outputs on x-s... could you please provide a link to where you saw that?

Thanks

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Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on June 18, 2006, 06:17:00 PM

idk i just meant using the a/v pinouts (listed on Llamma and a few other places) and hooking up a S/PDIF output

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Grim187 on June 19, 2006, 06:01:00 AM

WOW, this is so much better then the tut that i was going to go by, Finlay a pinout for the bottom of the board, i already got the VGA pins soldered up and i will probably start on the board in a couple days (I'm really busy with other things)

Thanks Maxx

Edit: Spelling

This post has been edited by Grim187: Jun 19 2006, 01:02 PM

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Post by: InfernO8 on June 20, 2006, 07:28:00 AM

Great Job. Out of curiousity does the signal come in good even through a "home made" VGA because I was under the impression that the signal could easily be messed up through work like that. If not I plan on doing this. Thanks.

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Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on June 20, 2006, 09:03:00 PM

On mine the picture looks amazing at 1280x1024, no interferance at all.

The key is twisting the ground wires around the signal wires, this reduces interferance greatly. Its a trick I use at work all the time (I'm a Lab Tech for a company that makes Class D audio amplifier chips, www.jam-tech.com ), for picking off data busses and still recovering clean waveforms (I2S, I2C, S/PDIF, etc.). Adding series resistors also helps when picking off data lines, but on the X360 they're already there (since it's already meant to be an output, not snooping a bus that's not supposed to have anything on it).

So yeah, some "homemade" VGA adapters give bad quality pictures due to improper shielding of the wires, but if you follow my tutorial exactly, it will turn out great.

This post has been edited by G0t M4xx 21: Jun 21 2006, 04:04 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: AfGhAnGsTa on July 04, 2006, 12:45:00 PM

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Jun 20 2006, 11:10 PM)

Ok, I followed your tutorial, and everything is working beautifully. The only problem is I have a HDTV and HD Xbox360 cables, and when I have this VGA port connected (pin 11 on it) won't let my 360 get into HDTV mode with the regular HD Cables. When I disconnect pin 11 from the VGA port, it lets me get my 360 into 1080i. With it connected, it will only go into 1080i and then switch immediately back. Any ideas? I was thinking of wiring a switch, but I'm not quite sure as to how I should go about that.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on July 04, 2006, 11:08:00 PM

Yes if you have the vga cable plugged in and a monitor hooked to the other end (even if the monitor is off), it will force the 360 into VGA mode.

If you plug in a HDTV cable at the same time, it sets both modes at the same time, which I believe enables RGB (scart) mode, which will certainly do funny things to your tv.

Just unplug the vga cable when your not using it and it will be fine

If you're saying it's doing it without a cable plugged in, then something's up, pin 11 pay be shorted to something else.

You could wire a switch, jsut connect the video mode wire (that would go to pin 11) to one side of the switch and the other side to ground

This post has been edited by G0t M4xx 21: Jul 5 2006, 06:11 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: AfGhAnGsTa on July 05, 2006, 07:53:00 AM

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Jul 5 2006, 01:15 AM)

Alright, what I did was pretty interesting, but it works. I cut the wire that goes to Pin 11 (the yellow wire) in half, and I soldered one end to one of outer legs on my 3 pin switch and the other end to ground. Now I switch between VGA and my HDTV. It works pretty well now. I just have to mount everything, but I don't know when I'll get around to doing that. You might want to add this to your tutorial G0t M4xx 21.

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Post by: bidomo on July 06, 2006, 11:06:00 AM

Congrats on your Great tuto G0t M4xx 21

Maybe I'm a little offtopic with this little doubt I have, but this is the right place to do it (am I right?).

I've just tried the 'pinout' tutorial, the one using the AV plug for wiring the VGA, for this to work, I had to cut the AV cable, worked fine, but it has some interference...

While de-ataching/re-ataching the AV plug to the back of the box, the "pins" got damaged, so I've just lost the ability to connect to TV (either RCA or HDTV mode and even the M$ VGA cables)

That's not the problem, I can just remove the AV port on the back of the box and use this tut to wire a better one, but I don't know the pins that the box uses to get into TV mode (RCA Yellow Plug).

If someone knows the meaning of the full AV interface, it would be very helpful for me to know what pins to wire the female jacks directly to the box are needed.

Can someone tell some considerations for me to take?

This is the last post I write this little legend: Excuse my bad english, maybe I'm explict enought to explain myself, but there's some things that I know how to tell but not how to express.

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Post by: jtom617 on July 08, 2006, 08:11:00 PM

Simply amazing, now all i need to do is just get my soldering skills up some. Then this will be the perfect project for me!

Thanks man, great work!

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Post by: kjmc on July 22, 2006, 05:44:00 PM

Hi, what is the minimum gage wire that can be used? I have some 30 awg sitting around, would that be suitable for the few inches required to mount to the vga plug? Is the tighter the twist result in better shielding, so the wires cross each other at 90 degrees? thanks

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Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on July 22, 2006, 11:11:00 PM

yeah 30 gague will work, but that kinda wire ends up being kinda stiff so if you bend it too much it breaks so jsut be careful.

And yeah, the tighter you twist the wires together the better.

Mine still works great I just upgraded to a new Dell widescreen monitor, running 1360x768 on my 360 it looks pretty badass (pissed it wont do 1680x1050 though, native res of the monitor).

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Post by: acex008 on August 23, 2006, 04:50:00 AM

thanks for the comments in my questions thread m4xx! And this will be PERFECT for my PC case install!!!

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Post by: Perplexer on August 27, 2006, 08:45:00 PM

Nice

Needs to be pinned or available in the tutorial section

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Post by: sicknasty413 on August 27, 2006, 09:40:00 PM

QUOTE(Perplexer @ Aug 27 2006, 10:52 PM)

Nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Needs to be pinned or available in the tutorial section (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Its pinned in the Xbox 360 Case/Hardware forum under Audio/Video Mods.
link
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This post has been edited by sicknasty413: Aug 28 2006, 04:40 AM

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Post by: Kaasiim on September 03, 2006, 09:37:00 AM

I dont believe it. It worked!

Oh, i'm not surprised that you guys got it to work. but this is my very first mod on the 360, and i havnt sodered anything in years so I'm wayyyyy out of practice, but your tutorial made it damn easy!

I bought the premium package for the 360 in Jan of this year, i never thought of modding this thing out, i didnt know it was possible. so it never entered my mind that i would be cutting into this thing and run a great risk of destroying it by shorting it out or whatever, so i was really paranoid about turning it on when i finished, cause the soder job doesnt look anywhere near as professional as I've been taught to make it.

anyway, thanks for all the tutorials, it made this very painful and difficult process much less painful. (you werent kidding, the sodering was much easier said than done)

thanks a lot guys. cant wait to get started on my next mod.

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Post by: Methadon on September 12, 2006, 12:47:00 AM

Great tut, man. I was working on adding an LCD screen to my 360, but I've kinda given up on it(for now, at least). I was planning on doing something like this (VGA port, as well as RCA jacks for TV mode, or at least the audio), but I'm trying to find a better spot to put the output ports. Right above the A/V out is where the case teeth meet, and I don't want my case missing teeth like some of the people around town here

Perhaps I'll put the outputs on the top...that'd be different...but prolly tacky too. Anywayz, if you got a suggestion for me, lemme know.

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Post by: Dyer13 on September 13, 2006, 04:12:00 PM

First of, I'd like to say that this is awesome man... many great electronics info comes from you.
But, I am wondering, Is there really a point for the 12 wires going to the VGA connector? You are using a COMMON Ground, and you really only need one wire from one ground to the connector, then you gotta connect all the (-/ground) pins in the VGA connector together, which is way easier then soldering 11 extra wires to the XBOX mobo, no less, which is greater risk of messing something up, if you arent great at soldering.

Please don't take this post to offense, I am simply asking a valid question and pointing something that maybe needed to be pointed out.
Also, I noticed you didn't use all 12 ground pads, but rather uses one for 3 or 4 wires... IMHO it just seems pointless to me when you only need one ground.

Thanks,
Dyer

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Post by: Methadon on September 14, 2006, 02:17:00 PM

QUOTE(Dyer13 @ Sep 13 2006, 11:19 PM)

I believe the extra ground wires are for providing the video leads with shielding.

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Post by: Boiker on September 17, 2006, 03:59:00 AM

This is awesome! Great mod. I know this is a 360 forum obv, but do you reckon this could be done with a gamecube and PS2? See, I don't really need a TV anymore so I'll sell that and then hopefully be able to use my 19" monitor for my consoles as well.

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Post by: Jelly4000 on September 17, 2006, 07:15:00 AM

QUOTE(Boiker @ Sep 17 2006, 11:06 AM)

Well, the ps2 and gamecube don't support vga outputs as far as i know. You would need to buy a composite->VGA box to use them with a monitor.

So, in short, unless you put one of these boxes inside the ps2 or gamecube, it wouldn't work.

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Post by: No.1 G on September 25, 2006, 01:48:00 PM

Hey M4xx 21 i noticed you did not wire up the DCC Clock (Pin 15 on VGA) is it not needed? What's the main use of it?

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Post by: The N9ne on October 13, 2006, 02:33:00 PM

Ive got a problem. My monitor doesnt have a pin for 11. when I plug the monitor in it doesnt work. If I attach ground to the yellow pin on the mobo then it works a treat but as the guy before cant use the hd cables any more. I dont want to have to add a switch if I dont have to is there any other way out of this???

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Post by: 4WDrift on October 15, 2006, 10:22:00 PM

Nice job! Really appreciate the write up.
Got any pics of it all buttoned up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by 4WDrift: Oct 16 2006, 05:30 AM

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Post by: benpari on October 30, 2006, 08:08:00 PM

so I just did this, and plugged it into my moniter, its a dell trinitron that is like 10 years old or something like that and it says something about it not being in the signal range or something like that....and I just realized I forgot to ground the audio...I better do that

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Post by: The N9ne on October 30, 2006, 11:41:00 PM

QUOTE(liqwidsky @ Jun 19 2006, 12:47 AM)

I can't find any tutorials about wiring optical or spdif outputs on x-s... could you please provide a link to where you saw that?

Thanks

Easy enough. If you want coax spdif

Pin 25 is Audio
Pin 27 is GND

if you want toslink

Pin 25 is Audio
Pin 27 is GND
Pin 29 is +5V

I just went with coax as it is easier to get the plugs in NZ for them than it is toslink. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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Post by: ptam91 on November 09, 2006, 04:37:00 PM

wait, im not sure on this, but, so would the regular video port work even with the vga thing installed?? like what would happen if i pluged the regular video in and the vga at the same time?

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Post by: Geirskogul on November 09, 2006, 05:00:00 PM

Post #11

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Post by: twinski9909 on November 12, 2006, 03:01:00 PM

Does anyone actually have this mod polished off?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Methadon on November 19, 2006, 03:40:00 AM

QUOTE(twinski9909 @ Nov 12 2006, 11:08 PM)

Does anyone actually have this mod polished off?

I'm in the process of doing it now. My Dremel needs to charge up, but I've got the VGA port wired and working. Got 2 RCA audio jacks wired, too (untested; should work). After I get everything mounted right, I'll make my cuts in the case. I'll post pics of a closed case with this mod when I finish, if you like.

Quick question about the RCA ports: on each jack I have a small extention coming out the back (similar to each pin on the VGA female port), and piece of metal with a small hole that is perpindicular to the shape of the plug. This is where I wire my ground, correct? Also, does it have to be the audio ground? I would think any ground signal would do for this.

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Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on November 19, 2006, 11:42:00 AM

Yes, any ground will work. The audio ground and main ground are the same thing.

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Post by: Methadon on November 19, 2006, 06:43:00 PM

I just re-assembled my box. Here's pics:
IPB Image

Back with VGA port, and Left & Right Audio Channels

IPB Image

Top of my console. See the awesome artwork

More awesome artwork

Next, I plan to add a composite video signal, as well as a switch, optical audio port, and headphone jack.
IPB Image

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Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on November 19, 2006, 09:01:00 PM

not bad, looks cool

I thought Meatwad was more reddish than that though

Oh well, Aqua Teen is a fucking awesome show, so props to you for that

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Post by: Methadon on November 19, 2006, 11:29:00 PM

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Nov 20 2006, 05:08 AM)

not bad, looks cool

I thought Meatwad was more reddish than that though

Oh well, Aqua Teen is a fucking awesome show, so props to you for that

He is redder, but the material I gave the guy who did the art for me was all DSR rips of the new episodes, so the colors were a bit darker. Either way, it's good to have Meatwad a different gradient than Frylock on the top. I really like the eye as the power button.

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Post by: Methadon on November 20, 2006, 04:17:00 PM

I got my switch wired up, case closed. Everything works fine. For anybody else who wants to do this, here's a quick wiring diagram to go by. Where you see pins circled, I'd recommend twisting the two wires you run from there around each other(for an easier time, and better results). G0tM4xx said it cuts down interference, so I assume they substitute a coil. The type of switch I used is a small 3 direction switch from Radio Shack (you've got questions, so do they). Way it works is top is VGA mode, bottom is Composite mode, and middle uses the MS A/V port (since I bought the HDTV cable, I'd assume just use it).

*** Also, ignore the YCR circle. I was originally going to put Component plugs on my box as well, but decided to simply keep the port (which will let the cable set the jumper for you). ***

(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~enygma_ent/images/multiport.jpg)

The audio is completely optional. If you want an optical audio port (the light blue circle), it's fairly easy to wire. Twist the wires for this as well. If you're running multi audio outputs (like mine) where you want phono jacks (stereo), optical, and a headphone jack, keep the optical wires to just the optical port, but you can run one set of left channel and one set of right channel wires, and jumper the ports to headphone jack.

This post has been edited by Methadon: Nov 21 2006, 12:20 AM

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Post by: REDMODS on December 10, 2006, 06:11:00 PM

i stole my headphone jack from an old CD player, works fine... but its ungodly quiet I know there should be some way to wire up a knob... I just need a push in the right direction. BTW VGA works awesome, props on the tut.

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Post by: 360Guru on December 15, 2006, 11:29:00 AM

QUOTE(Methadon @ Nov 19 2006, 07:50 PM)

I just re-assembled my box. Here's pics:
(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~enygma_ent/images/xback.jpg)
Back with VGA port, and Left & Right Audio Channels

(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~enygma_ent/images/top.jpg)
Top of my console. See the awesome artwork (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~enygma_ent/images/faceplate.jpg)
More awesome artwork (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Next, I plan to add a composite video signal, as well as a switch, optical audio port, and headphone jack.
(IMG:http://home.comcast.net/~enygma_ent/images/plans.jpg)

Dude...sorry but that's an eyesore....

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Navillos on December 15, 2006, 02:42:00 PM

MEATWAD GETS ALL THE HONEYS SEE!! sweet case dude. why did you cut it though, who cares about dvd window bullshit. oh meatwad is alittle redish brown too. it just needs a little touch up here or there then a clear coat to seal it.

This post has been edited by Navillos: Dec 15 2006, 10:43 PM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: 360Guru on December 15, 2006, 05:23:00 PM

On the "corresponding grounds" on the VGA port, do they have to come from the bottom of the mobo or can I just use any ground source? With the way I wired the wires, I can only get 3 ground points from under the video port instead of the 5 I need.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: 360Guru on December 15, 2006, 08:45:00 PM

Mine's not working....

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: yav on December 17, 2006, 05:15:00 PM

Got maxx,

do i want a female on both sides like this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/...bayphotohosting

or do i want male to female?

thanks

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: lucho on December 23, 2006, 07:58:00 AM

Where did you guys buy your Fem VGA port at? I cannot find one at any local radio shack.

Thanks

Lucho

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on December 23, 2006, 06:46:00 PM

I got mine at Fry's Electronics. It had a female port on one side, and bare pins on the other for soldering to a circuit board or whatever, or in this case to wires which go to the motherboard.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: dhrandy1 on December 23, 2006, 07:23:00 PM

Why do this mod when u can just buy an adapter and not ruin the warranty.

http://www.geeks.com

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on December 23, 2006, 08:18:00 PM

QUOTE(dhrandy1 @ Dec 23 2006, 08:30 PM)

Why do this mod when u can just buy an adapter and not ruin the warranty.

http://www.geeks.com

Because I can.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: GSX on December 24, 2006, 12:49:00 AM

QUOTE(dhrandy1 @ Dec 23 2006, 09:30 PM)

Why do this mod when u can just buy an adapter and not ruin the warranty.

http://www.geeks.com

Because I had the wire, soldering iron, and this tut. Also, Best Buy was a 10 minute drive

, not to mention I saved 20+ bucks.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: sinister slipknot on December 24, 2006, 02:59:00 AM

QUOTE(dhrandy1 @ Dec 24 2006, 02:30 AM)

Why do this mod when u can just buy an adapter and not ruin the warranty.

http://www.geeks.com

QUOTE(G0t M4xx 21 @ Dec 24 2006, 03:25 AM)

Because I can.

Exactly and the whole point of modding is to mod.. not to go out and buy something

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: lucho on December 24, 2006, 06:56:00 AM

Because it is fun.

I found the VGA connector online at radio shack for those looking. It has the part number on the site.

Hopefully this is it. Radio Shack VGA port

Can you cut a female vga extension cable and after figuring out what cable is tied to what pin, solder them to the board?

Thanks again

Lucho

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: sinister slipknot on December 24, 2006, 07:44:00 AM

Yeah you can solder the wire straight to the board, but it'd be annoying when you don't want/need to use the cable anymore.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: dhrandy1 on December 24, 2006, 07:52:00 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: lucho on December 29, 2006, 07:21:00 PM

Finally had a chance to do this mod. Picture looks beautiful. Sound is good too.
I ended putting it outside the case.

I bought some HD pins, Fem VGA D-sub connector and an insertion tool with a D-Sub crimper kit from Showmecables.com.

So much easier than soldering. I kept on screwing up the solder type so went the easy route.

Thanks again MAxx.

VGA mod

This post has been edited by lucho: Dec 30 2006, 03:22 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: the-painkiller on January 10, 2007, 05:09:00 PM

Does the VGA monitor have to support SOG in order for this to work. Or is that just for Xbox 1.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: peachey777 on January 10, 2007, 06:31:00 PM

Wow that's an awesome mod.. I might just want to try this one day. This way I could use component for my games and vga for my dvd's without switching cables all the time.

This post has been edited by peachey777: Jan 11 2007, 02:31 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on January 10, 2007, 06:33:00 PM

QUOTE(the-painkiller @ Jan 10 2007, 06:16 PM)

Does the VGA monitor have to support SOG in order for this to work.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: 7175 on January 11, 2007, 11:38:00 PM

Great mod. Got it installed with some old red/white 22 guage, headphone wire, desoldered vga female, and a desoldered headphone jack. I had to lower the surface on the bottom pan so I would suggest using thinner wire. This is much better than using a TV tuner.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: markop on February 12, 2007, 04:44:00 PM

Nice tut. Do i need a monitor that supports Sync On Green?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: markop on February 13, 2007, 01:49:00 PM

QUOTE(markop @ Feb 13 2007, 12:51 AM)

Nice tut. Do i need a monitor that supports Sync On Green?

Edit: Sry, I didnt read

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Fatsu on February 25, 2007, 12:20:00 PM

I used network wire, already twisted into pairs, cut into 6inch pieces for this mod, and made good contact with each connection.

Here is the problem I am having though..
hooked it up to test and signal takes like 3-4 seconds to detect, xbox 360 logo comes on etc, goes into menu for 10 to 100seconds then the screen kinda gets wavy and cuts out, I did a visual inspection of the points a few times under a magnifying lens and it looks good. its def not the screen as I dont have any other issues ... I also tried hookign it up to the kvm switch and it wouldnt even pick it up.

Should I cut the length of the wire down to 3-4inches? Whats could be causing this prob?

Also for Optical audio toslink, I desoldered one off an old dishnetwork reciever, its just the piece with 3pins..searching aroudn for toslink guides for 360 I couldnt find anything for the optical but the xbox 1 guides say to use .1uf capacitor ? Do I need this for 360 as it seems direct solder to the legs doesn't work.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Methadon on March 01, 2007, 02:13:00 PM

QUOTE(Fatsu @ Feb 25 2007, 08:27 PM)

I used network wire, already twisted into pairs, cut into 6inch pieces for this mod, and made good contact with each connection.

Here is the problem I am having though..
hooked it up to test and signal takes like 3-4 seconds to detect, xbox 360 logo comes on etc, goes into menu for 10 to 100seconds then the screen kinda gets wavy and cuts out, I did a visual inspection of the points a few times under a magnifying lens and it looks good. its def not the screen as I dont have any other issues ... I also tried hookign it up to the kvm switch and it wouldnt even pick it up.
Should I cut the length of the wire down to 3-4inches? Whats could be causing this prob?

Also for Optical audio toslink, I desoldered one off an old dishnetwork reciever, its just the piece with 3pins..searching aroudn for toslink guides for 360 I couldnt find anything for the optical but the xbox 1 guides say to use .1uf capacitor ? Do I need this for 360 as it seems direct solder to the legs doesn't work.

Well, I've done this mod (well, VGA port, RCA Audio/Video ports, switch, etc) on both of my 360's, and I used 30 gauge wire. Very easy like this. I paired each signal with it's ground and wrapped the wires, and when video goes to my monitor, it takes up to 5 seconds to sync properly (2.5 secs).

I do remember on my first one, I had used a thicker wire and had problems (occasionally I'd see a mostly blue or red or green screen, sometimes wouldn't be aligned properly). I re did the mod with 30 ga (so points were easier to solder), and it's worked flawlessly ever since. Perhaps your wires are big and a few of them are crossing?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Fatsu on March 03, 2007, 11:52:00 AM

QUOTE(Methadon @ Mar 1 2007, 10:20 PM)

Yeah your probably right, I ended up just cutting it down to 3.5inches from the 6 and its stopped cutting out, I still havent put the optical audio back on there ..think the resistor is needed, cant wire directly to the legs. Nobody confirmed this yet.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: RBJTech on March 04, 2007, 01:16:00 PM

I did this a while back. For video connections you should be using 75Ohm Video Coax cable - twisted pair is not going to provide interference free signals IMO.

Now obviously the big stuff isn't going to fit, so I used some Vann Damme 75Ohm mini-coax which is both flexible and small enough diameter to work (just..). Coax is a bit of a pain to prep with the shield connector(*), but the results are excellent - absolutely zero syncing problems and zero bleeding or ghosting.

If anybody has problems with twisted pair, I'd recommend trying some mini-coax ..

(*) Tip here is to solder the gathered 'shield' to a normal piece of wire and use that to solder to the mobo - don't try and solder the shield directly, it ain't gonna work ...

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Gerjan on March 09, 2007, 05:39:00 AM

I added rca audio out (digital):

(IMG:http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/9823/coaxout360cr4.jpg)

(IMG:http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/5172/p1010557copyts1.jpg)

Even easier than on the 1st xbox, 1 wire less (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif)

voila:

(IMG:http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/5308/p1010561sv5.jpg)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

ps for optical out you also need to solder pin 29 (+5v)
ps2 I do not know what wire i used 8) I used some from an old modchip

This post has been edited by Gerjan: Mar 9 2007, 01:42 PM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: pricemeista33 on April 02, 2007, 02:08:00 PM

WOW DUDE!! This is the S@$#%
At first I was intimidated, but I really want to use my monitor as an all in one. I can't wait to see the great res's it has to offer. I'm getting started right now and I'm going non stop til it's all done up right. I'm pretty impressed that you have shared this great information to us all here @ the forums.

thankz M4XX!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: gg22mm on April 02, 2007, 02:57:00 PM

Thank you M4XX! Did mine - Worked flawlessly!!!

Thanks again!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: hakaveli on April 02, 2007, 03:18:00 PM

should i do this mod or buy the M$ vga cable? I have a 1080p HDTV and was wondering if vga would yield better quality versus 1080p over component. Also, how many people have actually messed up their 360 doing this mod?? how many people have attempted it? at least 20 successfully?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Morlok8k on April 02, 2007, 08:46:00 PM

i just bought an off brand one (dragon) - a very, very long time ago.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: pricemeista33 on April 03, 2007, 01:34:00 PM

Maaan o' maaan, I've managed to get the great video but need some clarity on the audio soldering points from the mobo to the audio jack. I have a slightly different jack than that of the tut. Hope I can use this one as well. It has 3 legs on the rear and I need to determine what gets soldered where for the audio. If I can get this done then I can upload the pics of the finished product.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on April 06, 2007, 01:52:00 PM

If you look at a normal male headphone plug, the metal part on the very end is the left audio, the middle is the right audio, and the one closest to the cable is ground.

When you plug that into a jack, the order on the pins will line up with the headphone plug, so the pin closest to the end will be ground, then right, then left.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: JaredC01 on April 06, 2007, 10:21:00 PM

If someone gets me a pinout for each of the pins, I can make another tutorial for the 360... Got maxx?

Edit: I see there's a pinout in one of the above images... I'll see what I can do with it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by JaredC01: Apr 7 2007, 05:22 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: JaredC01 on April 06, 2007, 11:11:00 PM

Okay, can't edit the last post, so I must ask... Anyone know what all mode select pins there are? I know Pin 20 is the VGA mode select pin, but what are the rest of the modes?

Edit: Found a pinout tutorial... Can a mod delete this post please?

This post has been edited by JaredC01: Apr 7 2007, 06:15 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: pricemeista33 on April 11, 2007, 11:02:00 AM

Thanx M4xx, I finally got it right using all the information you supplied. You need to be a moderator in this forum somewhere dude. I really appreciate all the information offered from XBS and all of my buddies can't believe the vast range of info given here.

Oh yeah.... As soon as I get all the Airbrushing completed on the case, I'll upload the images of what I actually did utilizing the information. I'm getting started on that this weekend.

This post has been edited by pricemeista33: Apr 11 2007, 06:04 PM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: jayda on April 15, 2007, 08:42:00 AM

Just Courious guys that in the Picture with all the Pin colours and Discriptions on the left hand, can I hook up Component using the ' Blue green and red ' with standed audio as red n white? i want every connection possible on the back of the xbox just incase I take it to a mates and they dont have a HD TV or LCD monitor, so i can always have the others , just in case ?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: machineman9 on April 15, 2007, 10:16:00 AM

looks cool... how much would it cost in parts? (just to see if it is worth it)

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: jayda on April 16, 2007, 12:30:00 AM

the wire and Open end female 15pin dsub would and is less than 3 bucks. the headphone jack, also only another dollar.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: RBJTech on April 16, 2007, 01:06:00 AM

QUOTE(machineman9 @ Apr 15 2007, 05:23 PM)

looks cool... how much would it cost in parts? (just to see if it is worth it)

tbh - if you're doing it to be cost effective - then IMO it's not worth doing (it's a lot of effort) but that's not the point in the mod schene. We do it because we can ...

If you've got the parts lying around, then it's probably cheaper, but by the time you've gone to the shop, bought all the bits, wire etc, cursed 50 times 'why did I start this...' you can buy one cheaper on ebay..

PS - I've done this with mini coax cable and it's not 'easy' due to the limited space - the big pics make the soldering look easy but you need a good soldering/wire preperation skill level to make it work neatly ..

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: KrazyTurbo on April 19, 2007, 11:17:00 PM

I just did this, pics will be up soon.

It works GREAT! Perfect screen, No interference, Great sound!

I cut up a old db25 cable and used the wires from that. It was only $5 at radio shack and a old cable. I then took an extra step and epoxy'd the connection and epoxy'd the wires to the board for security and I cant believe how great it works.

I've had tons of fun playing GRAW2 on the PC monitor it's 5000x better than my projector tv.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: lucho on May 16, 2007, 12:10:00 PM

Anyone know why I would not get a picture when hooked up to a projector but too a monitor I do?

I did this mod a while back but now I want to use a projector and it cannot detect the signal.

Thanks guys

Luis

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: G0t M4xx 21 on May 21, 2007, 09:02:00 AM

The projector may not ground the pin that I use in my tutorial to enable VGA mode (it's a legacy thing so older PC's would know whether a color or black and white monitor was plugged into it)

You can try hooking the video mode pin to a switch on the back of the 360 or something

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: BrooksyX on May 21, 2007, 09:40:00 AM

I am thinking about doing something like this to an extra 360 that I picked up for cheap. I have few questions before I try it though.

-Could I use an extra floppy or IDE cable for all the wire needed?
-Can I just cut off the vga port from an old video card and use it instead of buying one?
-Can I use my cheap 30 watt soldering iron from radio shack or should I buy something better with like 15 watts?

This post has been edited by BrooksyX: May 21 2007, 04:41 PM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: wellmodded on June 29, 2007, 12:03:00 AM

hey jus wondering i not too confident solder those small point on the m/b and i nto able to open my case again so i want to know if i can open the xbox360 video cable connection and soldering up from there if so can u tell me wht i will nee to solder in there ??

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: imprez55 on September 21, 2007, 11:22:00 PM

I need some help here. I soldered everything up except the audio and have tried to get the picture to switch multiple times. Unfortunately the picture stays on the tv and nothing shows up on the monitor. The monitor does recognize a signal coming in, but still only a black screen. I have re soldered everything twice and am at a loss for solutions. Any help would be greatly appreciated...

wellmodded: There is a pinout here at llamma.

brooksyx: You could get 30/15 watt soldering iron from radioshack. Just make sure you use the 15 setting and get a 15 watt tip also and the old vga port will work fine if it is one of the adapters, otherwise it would be male comming from the card and you need female.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: sowa99 on October 18, 2007, 11:24:00 PM

Here is my picture:

IPB Image

It's easy.. But I have problem with colors.. I don't know why but red color is dark

I'll try to repair it later. Thanks for tutorial!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Rando81 on December 19, 2007, 11:54:00 AM

QUOTE(BrooksyX @ May 21 2007, 07:16 PM)

answering these questions will be appreciated (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
I'm not doing this mod to be cost effective or something, it is just I'm in an area where there are no spare parts or accessories for xbox 360 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) and this is the only way to use my monitor instead of standard TV..

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: shawnvd on May 02, 2008, 08:24:00 PM

very good guide 10/10

i'd do it if i had the time/ i'm not the greatest at soldering

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: ImmortalZ on May 04, 2008, 03:10:00 AM

Tried this yesterday on my Falcon. The pins were spaced differently (for the HDMI port, no doubt).

It worked. Sorta. My Dell 2005FPW displayed it rather badly. It kept going dark as resolutions increased and there was a huge amount of distortion on (looked like wind wash). Plugged it to my 6 year old Philips CRT and it worked beautifully, albeit with a slight white tint to the right of edges with high contrast.

Ultimately ended up removing the mod since fixing the problem would require the twisted pair cabling and to get the cables out of the 'box, I'd have to cut the case and shell, which I don't have the tools for at the moment.

Anyway, thanks for the tutorial - it works. But do use the TP wiring or you'll have problems with monitors which don't like slightly attenuated signals.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Chimp5000 on May 06, 2008, 02:29:00 AM

Hey, I think this is going to be the next thing I do to my 360, and I mean within the next few days too. However, would I be able to add a toslink port as well as a headphone jack at the same time? Will that cause any problems? Thanks man, amazing tutorial too!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: fableman on July 15, 2008, 05:28:00 AM

I've done it either, but I noticed a few problems: colors are like dried out abit (not vivid) and I always hear somekind of tiny buzz in my speakers (bad shielding?). Any ideas?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Fuzzymannerz on July 30, 2008, 09:10:00 AM

Great tutorial man, been messing around with stuff for a while now but never really been confident with soldering, never attempted it before but this makes me want to have a go and ditch the messy electrical tape.
All I need now is a soldering iron, I think I might have the rest laying around somewhere. haha

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: biopcb on August 09, 2008, 10:36:00 PM

since no editing. just adding something. my other monitor wouldnt work. i had to wire a switch between monitor_id and ground on the av header to make it work. i soldiered the switch to the usb/ethernet port shroud, worked out nicely. sucks of i ever get wireless adapter id have to make it internal or make a slot on the back of it to make room for my switch. ill post pics when i get a chance.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: biopcb on August 10, 2008, 11:52:00 AM

my vga mod

IPB Image

attached the switch to ethernet port. some odd reason my montor didnt use monitor_id pin.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: brandogg on August 10, 2008, 01:20:00 PM

That looks pretty nice, can you post a better pic?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: biopcb on August 11, 2008, 02:32:00 AM

heres a scan of back, odd came out in b/w ah well

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Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: bigheadnick on August 27, 2008, 10:54:00 AM

Is it possible to add an hdmi port like you added the vga? to older consoles that dont have the hdmi? Or would u also have to swap the older drive with a new one to make it work? Oh and take it easy on me if this is a stupid question cuz im a bit new to electronics.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: brandogg on August 27, 2008, 10:22:00 PM

It's not possible to add an HDMI port to an older console withough HDMI - but it *may* be possible to add HDMI to a "new" non-HDMI system (currently only used for refurbs, the "Opus" motherboard).

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: brandogg on August 28, 2008, 08:19:00 PM

An Opus will only be inside a refurbished non-HDMI system, eg. you won't find one in a store. It's not the GPU that "doesn't accept HDMI", the old system's scaler (ANA) can't use HDMI, the new ones (HANA) can. The real advantage with HDMI is the 100% digital video signal, so you see the game exactly as it was intended. The downside is you'll probably have more noticeable aliasing (jaggies) in some games, but the improved contrast/brightness/clarity more than makes up for it.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Demonhawk on January 21, 2009, 11:43:00 AM

I just completed this mod and I was semi successful. For the vga hookup I soldered all the ground connections together on the port and then for the connection itself I used a piece of cat 5 cable. The video looks great and I have the option of running it at 1650x1080.

The only problem I have is the audio sounds bad. There is a buzzing and when streaming things from netflix sometimes you can't hear all the sounds. Like voices will be really low but background sounds will be normal. I double checked all my connections and everything but I still have the problem.

Any suggestions?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: YoungGeekGuy on January 22, 2009, 05:29:00 PM

Just a hint, if you have a newer mobo with HDMI and a DVI monitor and have a spare set of cables you can break off the plastic case on the A/V cables bend it, and put in a HDMI to DVI. I do it, it looks great and the xbox just recognizes it as VGA mode. I messed up my cables though but I have spares and only use optical when I am playing in my room

I may add VGA at some point but not yet when I can get some DVI. I really want a 24" monitor though, that would get me some 1080p

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: da-shizle on February 23, 2009, 03:25:00 PM

Hello all.
I followed the mod and I did all this things correct and I get the "out of range" message on my monitor and on the HDready tv, nothing comes up.
what could be the problem, i also tried to change to the lowest resolution before testing the vga.
my vga monitor, is 1080, full HD. so it should work

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: RepublicOfAstra on March 10, 2009, 10:21:00 PM

Thanks for the great tutorial, I followed it just fine a month or two ago and it works great. Just thought I'd post about a small addition I made to it. Bought a stereo audio pot from RadioShack and wired it up to the audio port so I can adjust the volume when I'm using headphones on it.

Btw, realize the back looks like shit. Oh well, functionality is more important than the looks of something I'll hardly look at.

IPB Image

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Mholt215 on March 14, 2009, 03:33:00 AM

Why do you have to use such thick wire? Could you use 28 gauge wire?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: denis6902 on April 06, 2009, 08:32:00 PM

Hi everyone, i have got some questions, very new to soldering.

I am planning a whole new xbox 360 case replacement project, and i personally have a HDMI port on my 360.

The new case will have the cut-out for the VGA port, a switch, and a TOS-Link Optical port. Therefore i am planning best spots to mount them. I also want to add the VGA port to my 360, so i can easily connect it to other monitors too.
1- DEATHBOX VGA PINOUT:

- -( R ) ( G ) ( B ) ( O ) ( Hg )
( G ) ( G ) ( G ) ( G ) ( Vg )
- -( M* ) ( O ) ( H ) ( V ) ( O )

R - Red: RED OUT + GRD
G - Green: GREEN OUT + GRD
B - Blue: BLUE OUT + GRD
H - Orange: H. SYNC *Hg for H. SYNC GRD
V - Violet: V. SYNC *Vg for V. SYNC GRD
M - Dark Red: Monitor ID *not shielded -only single wire

2- Switch at the back for the inversion:
VGA - OFF - HDMI or VGA - HDMI ???

3- TOSLINK Optical port:
"Gerjan: Mar 9 2007, 01:18 PM" says: for optical out you also need to solder pin 29 (+5v)

On motherboard, pin 25 (RED) / pin 27 (GRD) to TOSLINK Connector legs
Kinda of puzzled with this one, its not so clear what goes where, can someone confirm, please?
Do i have to bridge a 5v spot from motherboard to 5v spot on spdif connector??

Will the Optical port be affected by the switch from VGA TO HDMI??

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: bobo4u on May 03, 2009, 02:44:00 PM

F**k men. i did this tut and i f***ed up my console . now when i try to open it, the center green led from the start button blinks very fast and then everything is shutting down. the source led turns red the coolers stop and when i try to open it again it doesn't do a thing. HEPL ME GUYS !!!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: bobo4u on May 03, 2009, 03:12:00 PM

F**k men. i did this tut but the wires wouldn't fit and i cut a piece of motherboard.i don't think this is the main cause but i f***ed up my console . now when i try to open it, the center green led from the start button blinks very fast and then everything is shutting down. the source led turns red the coolers stop and when i try to open it again it doesn't do a thing. HEPL ME GUYS !!!

I think pins 12 and 16 are thouching from my bad soldering. if i did a short or something is a posibility to make my console work again??

WHAT could cause this man ??

Here are pictures with the cut Mobo . they are made with a 2mp camera but i want to show you guys the spot .i took off all the wires from the vga port but the console still doesn't work. Is this good or bad ?? http://s731.photobuc...s/ww315/bobo4u/

PLEASE HELP ME GUYS !!!

Sorry for double post

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: donkeytron on May 07, 2009, 02:16:00 PM

I don't know if I can help you out.

I followed your tutorial on how to install a vga port on the back of your xbox. I have everything wired correctly, I know I do. And I have all the grounds wrapped around their corresponding pairs. It works, but my xbox doesn't recognize my monitor as vga, or even that vga is being used. All the lights flash red when the AV plug is unplugged. It has to be plugged into the back of the xbox for the vga port to work. Is this normal? And how come my xbox wouldn't recognize thats vga is in use. I know this because when I go to console settings, I get 420, 720 and the 1080 settings, whereas I should be getting resolution settings. Any ideas?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: donkeytron on May 07, 2009, 05:19:00 PM

Its gotta be my cable. I am trying to hook my xbox up to my 22 inch hanns-g, it should run normally at 1680X1050 or 1250*. Either way, it has to be my vga cord that hooks up the hanns-g. The pins inside are more rectangular than the ones for the 17" viewsonic and that screen it displays it almost beautifully except for the wrong resolution and it says change the frequency, but I think i just have to add my audio and it should work fine. I think its the cable because the hanns-g cable makes the xbox have 4 red lights, while the viewsonic doesn't. Stinks the viewsonic cable is attached on the inside of the monitor. I might have to buy a stupid vga cord anyways.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: donkeytron on May 07, 2009, 08:02:00 PM

My monitor wasn't grounding the cable. I never knew what monitor_id low meant, then my dad told me. I have to make a switch so my xbox knows to ground the vga cable so i can use that monitor

My monitor wasn't grounding the cable. I never knew what monitor_id low meant, then my dad told me. I have to make a switch so my xbox knows to ground the vga cable so i can use that monitor

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: JTPaintball on September 24, 2009, 02:37:00 PM

if i do this will i have to use the headphone jack for audio when using vga or can i still use the original cable for audio and use vga at the same time?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Briensturm on December 23, 2009, 01:53:00 PM

Is it possible to solder just the jack port and use it together with hdmi output?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Salincer on March 27, 2010, 08:15:00 AM

I installed 2x audio jacks (White and red) on back of my 360. I then bought a HDMI -> DVI adapter. I tested the mod out on the regular A/V cables and it worked great. When my adapter came, i poped her in and bam! 2$ adapter worked! Thing is, when i plugged my white and red into my surround sound, you can barley hear it when its up all the way. I have the surround sound hooked up to my computer and it can get extreamly loud...but basically, whenever the output is digital, the audio amp cuts off? Is there any way to fix this....maybe have to make an external amp or something?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Salincer on March 29, 2010, 08:16:00 PM

At the A/V port, connect pins 20 and 24 both to ground to enable analog audio with HDMI video.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: johnscrub39 on December 24, 2010, 09:19:00 AM

Yes i ve just recently done this(last night)..i can get it to work on my older monitor i dug out the closet but i would like to use my newer better monitor!?I was wondering if i wired a switch might that fix my problem and could i use a simple two leg switch?Wiring one to pin 11 and the other to a common ground?then when i did use the monitor,could i just turn on and off to throw the xbox into vga mode?Thanks for this great tu as ive wanted to have vga capabilities for awhile!!I dont know if you check this anymore but fantastic tut!!!!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: johnscrub39 on December 24, 2010, 12:23:00 PM

Well answered my own question!!Said to hell with it and tried it..worked perfect!!

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: tomas02 on January 08, 2011, 01:58:00 AM

Is this possiible on a xbox slim as i tried it with cat5 cable and it did not work could this be because the wire is too thick or something? 90% sure all my soldering was good reasonably experienced with soldering.
Any help would be great thanks

Is this possiible on a xbox slim as i tried it with cat5 cable and it did not work could this be because the wire is too thick or something? 90% sure all my soldering was good reasonably experienced with soldering.
Any help would be great thanks

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: neowesa on January 10, 2011, 12:22:00 AM

Awesome Tut man, thanks a lot!... but I have the "GREEN" screen, all my wires seems to be ok, I use an old Network cable that i had, used about6-7 inch (mabie a bit more)... Is there any way to fix it?

I read on this and some one mention the same problem, should i cut the wire a bit shorter? is it because the wire is too thin?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: demonicfox666 on January 15, 2011, 11:35:00 AM

i did this a while ago following this tutorial just wanted to say it went flawlessly now have 4 jtagged 360s with this wooo

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: tomas02 on January 19, 2011, 04:13:00 PM

Have actually come across a different solution for the xbox slim
I tried this method first and xbox wouldn't even boot
So i bought a official VGA cable and it worked flawlessly
I then opened up the cable to see what was different and found that:
- Monitor Id Bit 1 or VGA pin 12 needs to go to pin 23 on the xbox
- Monitor Id Bit 3 or VGA pin 15 needs to go to pin 21 on the xbox
- Red VGA pin1 goes to pin 3 of xbox
- Green VGA pin 2 goes to pin 4 of xbox
- Blue VGA pin 3 goes to pin 8 of xbox
- H-Sync or VGA pin 13 goes to xbox pin 11
- V-Sync or VGA pin 14 goes to xbox pin 12
- GND or VGA pin 5 needs to go to xbox pin 27

This worked flawlessly for me on a xbox slim only difference really is VGA pins 12 and 15

This post has been edited by tomas02: Jan 20 2011, 12:14 AM

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: xbox-enthusiast786 on June 13, 2011, 12:02:00 PM

If I do this on my xbox then would I be able to use the HDMI aswell as this VGA port both at the same time?

My plan is to have a LCD from a portable dvd player indie my xbox 360 replicating what I am playing on the big screen??

Can this be done?

Title: Put A Vga Port On The Back Of Your 360!
Post by: Jumpy_Beans on January 12, 2012, 06:06:00 AM

QUOTE(xbox-enthusiast786 @ Jun 13 2011, 12:02 PM)

I don't think you can have multiple video outputs with this since you have to 'lock' or ground out which signal you want to use. Correct me if i'm wrong but maybe you could create another input_id and have multiple outputs play?

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