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Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: allentron on March 26, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
It should. (You probably tried it already)

check specs for your proyector here and also read the proyector's manual (RTFM). wink.gif
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 27, 2006, 11:05:00 AM
If you can use it to watch other things in HD through component connections why wouldn't you be able to use it with an Xbox 360?

I use my Xbox 360 Exclusively with a front Projector.. as do many other people.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: turkish demon on March 29, 2006, 08:55:00 PM
i think HD is best in 1080i format... i believe the specs are 1080 x 720. i could be wrong about the 720 part, its whichever goes with the 1080 thing
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: twistedsymphony on March 30, 2006, 07:52:00 AM
QUOTE(The_Ocelot @ Mar 29 2006, 10:58 PM) View Post

Well some people told me that I won't be able to get "true" High Definition since the resolution of the projector is only 800 x 600. Is that true?

If that is the resolution your projector displayed "natively" then yes you are NOT getting true HD... Your projector needs a native resolution of 1280x720 or higher for true HD...  Your projector probably "supports" HD which means it can get the signal then down sample it to 800x600 (probably closer to 800x533 since it will be letter-boxed) So really you're only getting slightly better then what's called EDTV or Enhanced Definition (480p)

QUOTE(turkish demon @ Mar 29 2006, 11:02 PM) View Post

i think HD is best in 1080i format... i believe the specs are 1080 x 720. i could be wrong about the 720 part, its whichever goes with the 1080 thing

 rolleyes.gif 720p is often considered a superior format to 1080i. 720p is 1280x720 progressive, and 1080i is 1920x1080 interlaced. I'd recommend reading my sticky topic about the different AV formats.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: The_Ocelot on April 09, 2006, 12:18:00 PM
Bump

I just wanna know how EDTV will look (is it a lot better than SDTV?)
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: JMan8108 on April 09, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
yea you will notice the difference on urs from standard def... i remember a distinct difference even playing xbox 1 games in 480p over 480i, it will still look good just not true HD
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: Owtlaw333 on April 10, 2006, 12:02:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Mar 30 2006, 05:59 AM) View Post

 rolleyes.gif 720p is often considered a superior format to 1080i. 720p is 1280x720 progressive, and 1080i is 1920x1080 interlaced.

Meh... depends on the TV IMO.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: twistedsymphony on April 10, 2006, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Owtlaw333 @ Apr 10 2006, 02:09 AM) View Post

Meh... depends on the TV IMO.


I agree, but 720p is often preferred because it's progressive  tongue.gif

unless you're using a CRT 720p is usually superior to 1080i.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 13, 2006, 09:19:00 AM
HD resolutions start at 1024x768p i believe. alot of lcd's and almost all plasmas native at this. either way even at 800x600 it should look really good.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: twistedsymphony on April 13, 2006, 12:31:00 PM
QUOTE(sbeeze @ Apr 13 2006, 11:26 AM) View Post

HD resolutions start at 1024x768p i believe....
No, they don't

QUOTE(sbeeze @ Apr 13 2006, 11:26 AM) View Post
alot of lcd's and almost all plasmas native at this.
No, they aren't

QUOTE(sbeeze @ Apr 13 2006, 11:26 AM) View Post
either way even at 800x600 it should look really good.
It looks better then 480p, but it doesn't hold a candle to true 720p

I would suggest you read the stickies before you go giving people advice on a topic you obviously know very little about.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 13, 2006, 12:38:00 PM
ok well i guess samsung lies when they market there plasma HDTV with a 1024x768p HD resolution.and the fact that best buy site has alot of plasmas marked HD with a native of 1024x768p of but i guess there all lying too?
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: oswald on April 13, 2006, 01:38:00 PM
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ok well i guess samsung lies when they market there plasma HDTV with a 1024x768p HD resolution.and the fact that best buy site has alot of plasmas marked HD with a native of 1024x768p of but i guess there all lying too?


yep.  Anything below 1280x720 is EDTV.  A 1024x768 set is an EDTV set.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 13, 2006, 01:40:00 PM
just a note i don't mean to sound like i wanna fight, i am going on info from people that are very knowledgeable, and they tell me that 1024x768p is considered a form of HD. i will post some links to plasma HDTV's that native at this and maybe you can explain it.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: 89c4l98 on April 13, 2006, 01:45:00 PM
native resolution of samsung plasma is 1366x768p set it to 720p......for hd


native resolution os samsung ed is 852x480p for ed
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 13, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
ok well heres where i stand i have a toshiba 27" LCD HDTV and i have a DLP projector that natives at 1024x768p. both when using a 720p signal look near identical. the LCD is a little bit sharper but nothing large enough to call one superior really. mind you i have i had both professionally calibrated. but basically i know some people/manfacturers call it HD others disagree, but i have never heard it called EDTV, its way to high to be compared to a 480p (640x480p,852x480p). i dunno what you want to call it, for every person i talk to that says its HDTV theres another thats says it isn't. all i know is that the projector looks HD to me and a few friends who directly did the comparison.  so i dunno i don't think companies that release 1024x768p tv's labled as HDTV's should be able to if they truly aren't.


for the record here is the lcd i use

TOSHIBA 27" HDTV
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: prankfurter on April 13, 2006, 04:54:00 PM
QUOTE
Which resolutions here are "high-def"?
1024 x 768 (195)    5%    
1280 x 720 (1344)    33%    
1366 x 768 (713)    18%    
1920 x 1080 (1764)    44%    
Other (list in post comments) (32)    1%    


oh yeah and also for the best buy comments read this post on HDBEAT:
http://www.hdbeat.co...tv-advertising/
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 14, 2006, 12:42:00 AM
if you goto panasonic website and look at its PX500 plasma unit its labled as HDTV (not HDTV compatible but  true HDTV) so its not just resllers that claim it as HD but manufacturers as well. i guess as far as 1024x768p go its opinion. but for me its that i really can't see the difference between the 2 on my systems.
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: DaGamePimp on April 14, 2006, 12:26:00 PM
1024X768 is not true HD , which is not to say that it still cannot look great ( even a 480p display that is fed HD can look good , better than SD/ED even though it is being down scaled to ED ) .  Companies are able to get around the term HDtv because a 768p display can do 720p (just not in a native 16:9 fashion) .

Consider here that if you are sending a 1024X768 display a 1280X720 signal then there is down scaling being done . While the display can resolve 720 in a native fashion it cannot resolve 1280 . Then also consider that if a 4:3 (1024x768) display is having to scale a 16:9 (1280x720) signal it is losing even more resolution in order to have a correct 16:9 aspect ratio .


--DGP--
Title: Playing Games In High Defintion Using A Projector
Post by: sbeeze on April 14, 2006, 02:31:00 PM
i understand what you are saying, but honestly you don't really see the difference if both units are calibrated properly. so i personally consider 1024x768p HD cause i have tested it thoroughly with my projector and LCD and find that if there is a difference its minor. but we should all remember that picture quality is just as much in the video processor as it is the resolution. i have seen shoot outs where EDTV's have beaten HD so i guess resolution is really only half the battle for high quality displays.