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Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: eversio11 on November 17, 2005, 03:43:00 PM

By far the biggest thing I've noticed about the X360 launch is the HDTV hype. HDTV this, HDTV that. I didn't realize how focused this thing was on advanced televisions.

So.. how many of you are actually going to be using an HDTV? There's no way I can afford to pay $500 for an HDTV on top of already shelling $500 for the box and a game. I know my parents have an HDTV, but I'm not going to playing my box at home much at all, maybe bring it over for Thanksgiving and Christmas but that's it.

I really find it hard to believe that a majority of gamers will be using an HDTV for the 360. Sure, maybe their family has an HDTV in the family room but I'm sure most people here play in their room or basement. So what are the actual numbers like?

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: Palmore on November 17, 2005, 03:46:00 PM

I'm actually researching HDTV's to buy just for my 360 =)

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: jwherbold on November 17, 2005, 03:48:00 PM

I will be. Even used HD on the first one at 480i widescreen.  Halo 1/2 on anything else looks very small to me ;-)

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: Daveid on November 17, 2005, 03:49:00 PM

The 'rents have got one which I will be playing mine on over Christmas Hols Woot other than that i have to use a laptop tv card
When I get out of Uni though I will buy a HDTV hehe yes yes yes but that's gonne be 2 and half years lol dammit.
I might buy one in the mean time - I have the cash... just yea... i want HD broadcasting first i guess since it's not here in the UK yet

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: jwherbold on November 17, 2005, 04:01:00 PM

QUOTE(grogger13 @ Nov 18 2005, 12:03 AM)

i hope you meant 480p becuase 480i isnt hdtv.  720p is way than 480p so im looking forward to that, i use the HDTV in my family room.  The thing im concerned about is im going to college next year and i want to have an hdtv but i dont know if it will be that cost friendly.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: dabigdilla on November 17, 2005, 04:07:00 PM

i admit i fell victim to the hype, bought an HD set in anticipation of the 360...
but lemme just say, it is WELL worth it.  mine is only a 26" LCD.....and i love it.  definitely next gen shit.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: jwherbold on November 17, 2005, 04:12:00 PM

QUOTE(grogger13 @ Nov 18 2005, 12:14 AM)

i haven't heard anything but rumor, but i wouldn't start waiting for halo 3.  Remember when they had halo2 coming out a year after halo then two more years and it came out.  Bungie isn't gonna rush to put out a crappy game, they proved that with halo2.  There gonna take their time and make sure its awsome.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: sp3cialk on November 17, 2005, 04:13:00 PM

QUOTE(jwherbold @ Nov 17 2005, 07:08 PM)

Yes type-o Mine does not do 720p it does do 1080i though so I am looking forward to the upconversion I have been reading about.  Comeon Halo3 on the 360!

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: jwherbold on November 17, 2005, 04:15:00 PM

QUOTE(sp3cialk @ Nov 18 2005, 12:20 AM)

(although I keep telling my dad he would love it soo much more if he would get a DLP and surround sound)

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: gamerguy999 on November 17, 2005, 04:17:00 PM

I have a HDTV, but I am not buying a Xbox360, so I won't be using it with one.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: aakwa on November 17, 2005, 04:42:00 PM

Im just going to use my 17in CRT monitor for the time being, It isnt that small and should give a good picture with the VGA inputs.  I am hopeing to get a new monitor soon for college and mainly the 360!

-aakwa

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: justsumdude on November 17, 2005, 05:07:00 PM

i have a 55" Mitsubishi HDTV in the living room, a 26" Dell LCD HDTV in my room for my pc, and theater system.  Moving the Dell to the other room, with one of the computers, and replacing it with a 37" Philips LCD HDTV. The Philips has a very nice picture, one of the best ive seen.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: Joergen on November 17, 2005, 05:10:00 PM

_o/ Pioneer 43" 435HDE here, its been great for xbox component and hdtv shows for the past year and I'm really looking forward to X360 on it. I'm looking into buying a 32" LCD into the bedroom where I can hide the original xbox for casual entertainment and gaming use.

And 500$? Try 6000$ for the pioneer 12 months ago and about 1900$ for the 32" LCD (looking at Samsung, Sony or Philips).

I can understand people wanting to hold back on HDTV as the LCDs or plasmas are still for the large part not 1080p native and hugely expensive if you're after quality, but if your good old CRT was a 300$ one back when you bought it, good luck in the HDTV era. No amount of waiting will get you what you want in the next 5 years (the lifespan of the next gen).

Furthermore I'd like to stress my disappointment at the launch lineups SD resolution looks (not having seen them in person though). Judging by some of the framebuffer grabs at 640x480 they are not supersampled nor do they use proper amounts of AF to sharpen textures and hide the mipmap stages. Poor use of the hardware for low resolutions to get that realistic look the x360 is capable of.

Remember, until you see a console or game that looks like real life at SD, there is still room for improvement no matter what they try to sell for the reason of "looks good only in HD".

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: rulvnthatwigs on November 17, 2005, 05:15:00 PM

Hey guys I need to have the full experience so do you think I should get a 40" lcd from samsung or the same thing from sony.  Sony's is a little more expensive (ofcourse).  But I finally convinced my mom to let me get one of these.  And both of them support everything.  They both have cablecard ready.  I just need your guys opinions.

And yes HDTV's look amazing we have smaller ones and my friend has one.  DO IT!

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: Joergen on November 17, 2005, 05:20:00 PM

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: URPREY on November 17, 2005, 06:04:00 PM

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: 2600 on November 17, 2005, 06:06:00 PM

I got a 32 inch advent HDTV for about 300 US in april. high def looks beautiful and all my games and movies look great.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on November 17, 2005, 06:15:00 PM

QUOTE

Mitsubishi 65" HDTV widescreen

'

lmao, i got teh same TV, bought it months ago in preperation for the 360.
only 5 more payments and its mine!

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: tonloc79 on November 17, 2005, 06:31:00 PM

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: thebox on November 17, 2005, 06:35:00 PM

OH!!! It's DLP to!

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: WiFiSpy on November 17, 2005, 07:47:00 PM

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: atomheartmother on November 17, 2005, 08:05:00 PM

those pics need resized bad.


I got a 47" hdtv, onkyo 7.1 receiver good enough for me.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: fin1581 on November 17, 2005, 08:18:00 PM

I have a Sony 34XS955...you cannot beat the picture on this tv, let me tell you.  Super Fine Pitch tube kicks ass and DRC gets rid of any imperfection.  Man, I cannot wait til Tuesday!!!

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: moddingswede on November 17, 2005, 08:19:00 PM

i'm thinking about the 28" Sanyo HDTV from walmart. the $497 pricetag is very appealing, plus i've heard good things about it.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: eversio11 on November 17, 2005, 08:47:00 PM

Jeez, I didn't realize so many of you are actually jumping on the HD wagon so early. If it makes that much difference, I guess I know what I'm using my Christmas money for.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: tweak41 on November 17, 2005, 09:00:00 PM

I purchased an HDTV this summer to double as my computer monitor.  You can get reasonably good deals on them on eBay if you know where to shop.  I recommend an LCD or plasma personally.  Wall mounts are sexy as hell.

P.S.
I'm a college student.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: mgamer20o0 on November 17, 2005, 09:06:00 PM

i need me a hdtv. i am one of them that are sadly will be using my reg 27" tv. i hope to upgrade in 6 months or less.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: chochamu on November 17, 2005, 10:32:00 PM

here are some pics of what i will be playing on.....

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: atomheartmother on November 17, 2005, 10:33:00 PM

QUOTE(eversio11 @ Nov 18 2005, 04:54 AM)

Jeez, I didn't realize so many of you are actually jumping on the HD wagon so early. If it makes that much difference, I guess I know what I'm using my Christmas money for.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: eversio11 on November 17, 2005, 10:35:00 PM

QUOTE(atomheartmother @ Nov 17 2005, 11:40 PM)

So early? Actually this is my 2nd HD they have been out for years now, I have had HD since.....5 years ago I believe my first was a 40 Toshiba 19x9, And I plan to buy a new set in a few weeks though it will be a plasma or LCD only issue is I want bigger, and a big plasma is too pricey still as I need preferrably a 60 inch....

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: hamwbone on November 17, 2005, 10:39:00 PM

55 inch widescreen HDTV for me, with onkyo 702 7.1 surrouns sound, with polk front set and sub, and jbl northridge rears (4)

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: atomheartmother on November 17, 2005, 10:58:00 PM

Yeah hdtv will be the standard, it has in Japan for many years. As the FCC mandated that all broadcasts much be digital it was by 2006 but I think it has been pushed back to 2008 or something. As they bought the frequency analog runs on for military purposes.
Plus the cost of HDTV is much cheaper now, its almost hard to find a all analog big screen anymore. Wal-Mart has a 52" RCA 16x9 HDTV for $998 on sale!!! Its pretty nice forthe money, actually its real nice for the money.
The main area that is unclear is how inputs go as far as , component,HDMI,DVI;etc. Theres where a standard needs to be made.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: MJFOSTER77 on November 17, 2005, 11:14:00 PM

Yeah I have an HD tv. It's a 50 inch sony lcd rear projection. It's going to be amazing with my surround sound. (Klipsch speakers kick ass)  The tv is great But I'm 28 a lot of gamers are younger and don't have $3000 for a tv.  But actually prices are coming down for hd lcd tvs.  Now the only problem is actually getting the f**king system since my gaurenteed preorder isn't gonna be in at launch!  Gotta love lines.....

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: hamwbone on November 17, 2005, 11:49:00 PM

same thing happened to me mjfoster, i have controllers and games laying around ready to be played, but my order got cancelled pretty much.  im still glad i got the controllers and games, not like i wasnt going to get them or like i was going to invest the money... hehe

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: unclepauly on November 18, 2005, 12:37:00 AM

QUOTE(grogger13 @ Nov 17 2005, 07:14 PM)

i haven't heard anything but rumor, but i wouldn't start waiting for halo 3.  Remember when they had halo2 coming out a year after halo then two more years and it came out.  Bungie isn't gonna rush to put out a crappy game, they proved that with halo2.  There gonna take their time and make sure its awsome.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: unclepauly on November 18, 2005, 12:42:00 AM

QUOTE(Altima NEO @ Nov 18 2005, 03:04 AM)

walmarts got some no name brand 26" hdtv lcd screen with dvi and vga inputs for about 700 bucks

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: revs on November 18, 2005, 05:56:00 AM

I'll get a HDTV when the UK prices arent so high. The cheapest HDTV in the UK (a 26" one) is about £500 - thats $890USD

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 18, 2005, 08:07:00 AM

I've been waiting for something like the 360 to put my Home Theater through it's paces for a LONG TIME now.  

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: violent_bong on December 02, 2005, 12:47:00 PM

51' Sony RP CRT @ 1080i on the xbox360 with 6.1 surround, Works well and makes a hell of a difference.

Title: So.. How Many Are Actually Using An Hdtv?
Post by: Hyper_Eye on December 02, 2005, 01:00:00 PM

I have had a high def TV that does 480p and 1080i since I got the XBox. It makes a difference on that as well. I am using the same television for my 360 and have it set to 1080i and it looks great. I am planning on picking up an InFocus SP4805. I am a little worried because it downscales everything to 480p widescreen but it has great contrast, uses DLP, and from the pictures I have seen it looks fantastic. I worry that I will notice a decrease in quality because I have been using 1080i. Then again... it will provide a much larger picture.