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Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: yaazz on May 30, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
Hey guys I want to get a new TV so that I can bask in the full progressive scan glory of Xbox 360! I want to spend <1000 on this TV and I want one that is a good room size, and is at least 480P show me some good deals!!!
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Post by: SkateorDie on May 30, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
http://www.circuitci...roductDetail.do
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Post by: yaazz on May 31, 2005, 05:45:00 AM
Cool thanks, but how come it says its widescreen but isnt in the picture?
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Post by: whet1134 on May 31, 2005, 06:39:00 AM
As most know already, I REALLY love my new Samsung CRT and that was $900 (I paid $700).  It does 480p and 1080i standard and *might* do 720p... I just don't know for certain as the spec sheet is a little ambiguous.  I really recommend a Samsung or Toshiba.
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Post by: gamerguy999 on May 31, 2005, 09:06:00 AM
I have a RCA 40" HDTV that supports 480p and 1080i(don't think it supports 720p). Anyways it is an awesome tv, has plenty of connectors(including DVI), and it was about $1000 at walmart.

I just looked at walmart, and here is a TV similiar to the one I got. It is 52" though, instead of 40', and is $1194.

RCA 52" HDTV
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Post by: sp3cialk on May 31, 2005, 09:29:00 AM
Doesn't RCA use Plastic clips to hold the lenses??? I know Magnovox does and thus causing issues after about a year of good use.  When I bought my HDTV I actually went and looked a 51" Magnovox that was HD and after looking at the picture quality I went with a 55" mitsubishi which had way better quality and from all the research I found didn't fail as often... yes I could have went with a LCD or plasma but some people have to shop wisely being that i'm not totally rich and have other bills... here's a picture of my TV I even got the 5yr. warranty on it just to be on the safe side... not saying how much but it was a dang good deal...

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Post by: gamerguy999 on May 31, 2005, 10:08:00 AM
QUOTE(sp3cialk @ May 31 2005, 09:40 AM)
Doesn't RCA use Plastic clips to hold the lenses??? I know Magnovox does and thus causing issues after about a year of good use.  When I bought my HDTV I actually went and looked a 51" Magnovox that was HD and after looking at the picture quality I went with a 55" mitsubishi which had way better quality and from all the research I found didn't fail as often... yes I could have went with a LCD or plasma but some people have to shop wisely being that i'm not totally rich and have other bills... here's a picture of my TV I even got the 5yr. warranty on it just to be on the safe side... not saying how much but it was a dang good deal...
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Post by: sp3cialk on May 31, 2005, 12:20:00 PM
QUOTE(whet1134 @ May 31 2005, 12:04 PM)
Nothing against you Sp3cialk, but in my experience, Mitsu's are junk.  Perhaps you're one of the lucky ones... or I'm one of the unlucky ones... but their TV's are sub-par, IMO.  I think it was very wise of you to buy the service plan.  beerchug.gif  Not a fan of their cars either now that I think about it.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 04:03:00 PM
I've seen 720p and 1080i in person and there isn't that much of a difference, so if you can't find a 720p television, don't feel obligated to lean towards a 1080i.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 04:06:00 PM
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Post by: cromat44 on May 31, 2005, 06:08:00 PM
I'm feeling bad about my 19" $200 philips-magnavox tv I bought five years ago with, get this, dual composite inputs!....


Yeah, Im gonna just use the vga cable and a computer moniter for when I want hi def... or go upstairs for the 43" with 1080i, 480p and maybe 720p (I think)
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Post by: photoposite on May 31, 2005, 07:04:00 PM
Hey man.  That tv should be good enough.  I got an hd right down stairs and have played with all kinds of games on xbox.  Ones that just do 480p, and the few that do 720p.  Some do 1080i.  I have to say that I thought 720p would be better, but the 1080i is more sharper and detailed than when I just run the 720p mode on xbox.  This is the same with ps2 and gamecube also.  It just looks better in 1080i.  I think in the future it will be the same.  If I had known that 1080i was this good, I would have saved the 300 extra bucks and bought a 1080i only tv.  So in short, that tv should be kick ass enough for you man.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 07:06:00 PM
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Even if you don't get 720p, 1080i is very nice as well.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 07:09:00 PM
That doesn't mean 720p is horrible, but for crts, having 720p upconvert to 1080i is basically a must because 1080i is much superior on a crt than 1080i on an lcd or plasma. Lcds and plasmas are better at the progressive stuff.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 07:13:00 PM
Yeah for CRT's, t most likely won't natively display 720p, but make sure it can at least upconvert it to 1080i.
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Post by: ralio on May 31, 2005, 07:20:00 PM
Samsung, LG, and Soshiba all make decent 30" sets. As much as it pains me to say it, the Sonys arent bad either if you can stomach the price. I am thinking about buying the 34" Toshiba 34hf85 myself. Your best bet is to take a trip to your local electronics store and see which one you like best. Be careful though, because the signal being sent to those TV's is crap.

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Post by: photoposite on May 31, 2005, 07:21:00 PM
Yeah, I wasn't saying 720p is terrible.  It looks just like the 1080i to me though.  I just got two tv's 2 weeks ago.  One is lcd.  On 720p it looks better on movies, and tv, but for xbox the crt is better because sometimes I get artifacting on the lcd, so I use the crt.  And you are right, I try to watch some 720p tv signals in 1080i mode on my lcd and it's great, but watching it on the crt, the picture stays small and I have to switch it.  The one thing I dont agree with is that 1080i actually looses some of the picture info when running 720p because it's progressive.  I see no difference.  Then again, I'm not using a 50inch or something like that.  Both are great and hd is hd.  Way better than the 480i or 480p.
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Post by: Carlo210 on May 31, 2005, 07:32:00 PM
Exactly. Hd is Hd!
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 01, 2005, 05:09:00 AM
The Sanyos at walmart are great too don't lok away because it is a 'sanyo', they have put their act together and now they are the cheapest and, imo, best 30" crt hdtvs on the market. They do 1080i and 720p and have a built in hd tuner and have 2 tuner pip. Its great.
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Post by: yaazz on June 01, 2005, 07:36:00 AM
God I hate when people say "search". If you have nothing productive to add to the topic why post at all? He is asking for peoples opinions, not for flames
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 01, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
QUOTE(whet1134 @ Jun 1 2005, 11:35 AM)
And I hate when people ask the same goddamn questions over and over.  If they can't read the rules, why post at all?  They are just asking for flames.
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Post by: El_Vincente on June 02, 2005, 12:44:00 PM
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 02, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
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Mod, can you please close this before some real flaming begins?
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 02, 2005, 02:24:00 PM
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The width alone means nothing dry.gif
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Post by: xboxmodder4life on June 02, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
the trend seems to be a bunch of idoits thinking they need HDTV's of a certain type. I hope people dont go to the store wanting to buy a xbox360 and get told by some retard at walmart they need a HDTV
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Post by: prankfurter on June 02, 2005, 04:32:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jun 2 2005, 04:35 PM)
what exactly does the width have to do with anything  unsure.gif
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Post by: NeuroChemist on June 02, 2005, 05:39:00 PM
i just bought a hdtv from circuit city that id reccomend everyone looking to buy take a gander at.  i bought the floor modedl for less than 400    it supports all hd signals
samsung tx-p2775hd           so then i bought the hd av pack for the xbox and turned on all outputs (1080,420,and whatever the other one is)   i was wondering if it matters if they are all on at the same time.....and also what is the best? 420?720?1080?
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 02, 2005, 09:08:00 PM
QUOTE(prankfurter @ Jun 3 2005, 12:43 AM)
yeah length also plays in....  blink.gif  tongue.gif
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 02, 2005, 09:09:00 PM
figure out your favorite resolution and don't listen to what others say. Everyone has their own prefs.
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Post by: prankfurter on June 02, 2005, 10:31:00 PM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 03, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
Yeah it really depends on your tastes... and sometimes the device you're using... My DLP projector looks much crisper at 1080i than it does at 720p... while my friends Plasma looks way better in 720p than it does in 1080i

Some screens it's debatable... both resolutions have their benefits and drawbacks..

regardless of the HD resolutions 480p is always better than 480i, and anything HD is better than both of those.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 04, 2005, 07:33:00 PM
If your cabinet space supports a 30-34" 4:3 tv, that is a whole different deal than a 30-34" 16:9 tv.
Make sure you don't get a 30-34" 16:9 widescreen tv because it won't fit in your cabinet space.
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Post by: NeuroChemist on June 07, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
thanx for the replies
so one is no better than the other?  its really a matter of pref.?
i mean it looks damn good anyway i play but i have noticed things that are usually darker than thier surrondings (like master chiefes human weapons) are almost jet black.....i guess thats the best i can explain it
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 07, 2005, 02:44:00 PM
Check your contrast and stuff like that.
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Post by: MrBones on June 07, 2005, 08:41:00 PM
QUOTE(whet1134 @ May 31 2005, 12:04 PM)
Nothing against you Sp3cialk, but in my experience, Mitsu's are junk.  Perhaps you're one of the lucky ones... or I'm one of the unlucky ones... but their TV's are sub-par, IMO.  I think it was very wise of you to buy the service plan.  beerchug.gif  Not a fan of their cars either now that I think about it.
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Post by: devguy on June 07, 2005, 09:33:00 PM
One of the cheapest, most basic progressive scan tvs (480i/480p) is the Samsung 2745p.

here
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on June 07, 2005, 11:26:00 PM
I don't care who created the tubes in TVs today, but it appears everybody else perfected them except Mitsu.  Until recently, Mitsu has had washed out fuzzy bigscreens... horrible pictures compared to most of the other big names. (Hideous asthetics too... but that's my opinion, lol)

Not sure which Mitsu you have currently, but if you were to compare it to a DLP (RCA, Samsung, and whatever other company uses DLP now) I still doubt it's better.  But I do have to say that I'm impressed that Mitsu finally came out with some decent TVs the past year or so (maybe 2).
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Post by: Twasi on June 07, 2005, 11:58:00 PM
tongue.gif  You can't go wrong with a cheaper 20 some inch samsung, they are relatively cheap and very nice quality.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 08, 2005, 01:06:00 PM
The Sanyos are very nice too, along the same price border, and supports 720p resolutions very nicely (upscales nicely to 1080i).
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Post by: thesideinguy on June 09, 2005, 07:02:00 PM
i have a 64 inch JVC D series, and i play games on it all the time.
i have had it for about a year now and have no burned spots.
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Post by: grego9198 on June 09, 2005, 10:09:00 PM
I have a 47" Panny RPTV, 0 burn in issues after 1 year of casual gaming on it. You won't have a problem with burn in as long as you don't play the same game exclusively for the life of the tv with the contrast and brightness turned to the max. If you do decide to get one, turn down the contrast/brightness to proper levels, use a calibration disc to get the levels just right, it'll reduce the chance of getting burn in.

If you are really paranoid about burn in, buy a dlp for gaming you won't have the motion issues that are associated with some LCD tvs. That's my opinion.
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Post by: crosseye on June 10, 2005, 11:23:00 AM
I've had a 51" HD RPTV for 3 years now. I had the TV for two years when I was in college and the only time the xbox was not running on it was on Sunday (apparently a holy day for my two roomates from Indiana to watch Nascar and Green Bay). My tv has been through probably what some would call extreme abuse for the testing of burn in. To this day there is not one instance of even remote burn in on my tv. I was probably overly worried at first, but as long as common sense rules in your world, you will NEVER have a problem. You can play ANY game for as long as you want and I can't say you will screw up your tv. You've got to remember, even on games with huds that never move, there are lots of time while playing when the hud does not exist, cutscene, loading, etc. The only time you should even be worried is if you pause a game, disappear from the earth for a whole day, and then come back only to realize your game is still paused. Seriously though, just don't pause a game for 3 hours.
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Post by: Deftech on June 10, 2005, 11:31:00 AM
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Oh and let me add Ive played games like halo continuously for as much as 14 hours straight for lan parties...so dont worry about many hours at a time..again, turn that shitty ass contrast down. I cant stand when people crank their contrast and brightness...drives me  grr.gif

I think we played brute force lan for like 19 hours straight...xbox nor tv were turned off.

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Post by: NeuroChemist on June 10, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
smile.gif  never again can you watch a tv thats not hd and not bitch about how shitty the picture is........
anyone notice things that used to be a little dark on a reg. tv look alot darker in hd?  is this normal?   ive tried playing in all my video modes and even set a custom one.......anyone experienced anything simialr? and what do you guys think is the best setting (480,1080,720)  for xbox on a 27inch hd tv?
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 10, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
I agree with most above... I'd personally go for DLP but if you can't afford it then just don't be stupid... TVs these days hold up A LOT better against burn in than they used to.

I used to work in an arcade so I've seen my share of burn in... those machines show the same thing constantly for about 17-18 hours a day. The newer the game the less susceptible they are to burn in... games stay for about 10 years before they stop making good money and go into storage for parts.... firing up some of the older games in storages made in the late 80s or so you'd see substantial burn in... compare that to more recent games ending their 10 years which usually had none at all.

You can see this yourself in store displays that show console games all day. I remember the old SNES demo consoles that would have "SUPER MARIO WORLD" burned into the screen no matter what. But newer displays don't seem to have that problem as much.

I'm sure it varies from brand to brand but as long as you're smart about it (like others have said, don't leave it paused for a day or two, tune it properly and don't crank the brightness and contrast, etc.) and you should be just fine.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 10, 2005, 01:44:00 PM
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Post by: jagsfan on June 10, 2005, 07:16:00 PM
thinks for all the input guys!!   im not into the whole contrast and brightness thing so this wont be an issue, also i do take very good care of my stuff so looks like im good to go!
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Post by: Owtlaw333 on June 10, 2005, 08:03:00 PM
QUOTE(OC-NightHawk @ Jun 10 2005, 05:23 PM)
I'll be playing mine on my Samsung 63 Inch Plasma Widescreen monitor. love.gif
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Post by: chuxterofdoom on June 11, 2005, 02:32:00 AM
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Post by: photoposite on June 11, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
No man, I havent experienced this in any of my hd's.  They are always bright and full of detail, but never get any darker.  Perhaps you settings need to be tweaked.
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Post by: Deftech on June 11, 2005, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(thax @ Jun 11 2005, 04:51 PM)
If you are buying the TV for the x360, why not wait until the console is launched when you can get a slightly better price or slightly better technology, as well as good reviews about which TV's work nicely with the x360?
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Post by: Shawn_ on June 12, 2005, 04:39:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ May 31 2005, 09:20 PM)
That doesn't mean 720p is horrible, but for crts, having 720p upconvert to 1080i is basically a must because 1080i is much superior on a crt than 1080i on an lcd or plasma. Lcds and plasmas are better at the progressive stuff.
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Post by: Shawn_ on June 12, 2005, 05:05:00 PM
i'm having a hardtime finding the specs... here it says 720p....

http://www.futuresho...588&catid=11302

from what i have read upscaling from 720p to 1080i is a downgrade in quality.

crappy
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 12, 2005, 08:27:00 PM
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Post by: Shawn_ on June 13, 2005, 11:04:00 AM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 12 2005, 10:38 PM)
Yeah, depends on the tv.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 13, 2005, 05:19:00 PM
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Post by: photoposite on June 13, 2005, 09:06:00 PM
Hey Carlo, one of the hd's I got is a standard 27" crt.  By standard I of course mean 4:3.  It will make the image to 16:9 if your tv supports that and mine does.  The picture is 25" in widescreen.  I was wary of this at first because some people were saying on an hdforum that you only get 75 percent of the screen size when going to 4:3 so I thought I was looking at a mere 21 or 22" display, but when I pulled out the measuring tape, going from left upper corner of the displayed picture to lower right corner, I got 25".  My other hd is a 27" widescreen display and it is only a slightly larger than when running the 4:3 hd.  So you are good to go.
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Post by: bruteostrich on June 13, 2005, 11:18:00 PM
QUOTE(matt57 @ Jun 13 2005, 03:26 PM)
HEY, QUESTION FOR YOU ALL
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Post by: twistedsymphony on June 14, 2005, 07:17:00 AM
dry.gif AFAIK there are no major sources that output at that resolution, meaning it's only ever used as a resultant output by that TV.

PAL resolution is 576 not 540....
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Post by: NeuroChemist on June 14, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 7 2005, 10:55 PM)
Check your contrast and stuff like that.
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Post by: Vejita on June 14, 2005, 01:19:00 PM
QUOTE(Shawn_ @ Jun 13 2005, 02:16 AM)
from what i have read upscaling from 720p to 1080i is a downgrade in quality.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 14, 2005, 01:25:00 PM
But still, 1080i is no slower than 480i. It's not like 1080i is bad for moving objects, its still great.
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on June 14, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
QUOTE(Carlo210 @ Jun 14 2005, 03:36 PM)
But still, 1080i is no slower than 480i. It's not like 1080i is bad for moving objects, its still great.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 14, 2005, 01:51:00 PM
QUOTE(photoposite @ Jun 14 2005, 05:17 AM)
Hey Carlo, one of the hd's I got is a standard 27" crt.  By standard I of course mean 4:3.  It will make the image to 16:9 if your tv supports that and mine does.  The picture is 25" in widescreen.  I was wary of this at first because some people were saying on an hdforum that you only get 75 percent of the screen size when going to 4:3 so I thought I was looking at a mere 21 or 22" display, but when I pulled out the measuring tape, going from left upper corner of the displayed picture to lower right corner, I got 25".  My other hd is a 27" widescreen display and it is only a slightly larger than when running the 4:3 hd.  So you are good to go.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 14, 2005, 02:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Shawn_ @ Jun 13 2005, 07:15 PM)
what does 720p upscaled to 1080i look like? is it nice?
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Post by: photoposite on June 14, 2005, 04:34:00 PM
As having two hd's one lcd widescreen and one 4:3, I agree.  The lcd gets 720p natively and the crt gets 1080i natively.  Running a game with 720p on xbox right now like mvp 05 looks the same on either tv.  Real nba telecasts look better also in 1080i as opposed to 720p, and on abc, i think it's native 720p.  Just a suggestion.  I cant see the difference and have been trying to see the advantages everyone said 720p would give me, but so far 1080i rocks for me.  Its all about preference I guess.  Also, progressive scan prefs always brag about the 720 lines of vertical count resolution but what about the horizontal count 1920 on 1080i.  Look man, stop the bickering on the two formats, hd is hd and for me, having both natively, 1080i is best for me, but hey, both rock.  As I said before HD IS HD.  Now lets try to convert the SD people instead of fighting about which hd format looks better.  Also 16:9 and 4:3 are both great.  Sometimes on the lcd, things look stretched out, but with 4:3, I can always switch back and forth between the two.
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 15, 2005, 04:58:00 AM
beerchug.gif  Phosphite

Reply: Are you saying that your lcd, when letterboxed, looks stretched or is that when you are running hd material (widescreen) in 4:#, because that would make sense.  

If that is the case, why don't you letterbox the image when running hd material?
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Post by: NeuroChemist on June 15, 2005, 01:12:00 PM
regarding my darkness issue    lol who wants to post thier tvs settings???
i cant get it right......namely halo2  and ghost recon2    they just are TOO dark....arg its driving me crazy
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Post by: Carlo210 on June 15, 2005, 01:20:00 PM
Ill tell you one more time. Turn on halo2. Go to the setting screen. Change the contrast so it is higher or brigtness or both. Thats why tv's have those settings... so if you don't like them, you can change them.
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Post by: photoposite on June 15, 2005, 05:16:00 PM
My lcd is 16:9 ws.  The stretching I referred to was when watching tv.  Anything in 4:3, which is everything not including the hd channels and the movie premiums are stretched.  If not, I get the ugly side bars.  Those side bars are far more distracting than the top and bottom ones on my 4:3 hd.  As stated before, with the xbox, the lcd get artifacting and the crt is perfect.  I play pc games all the time with my high end set up and I still prefer the crt monitor to the lcd monitor because on the lcd I get ghosting when playing pc games.  LCD looks bright and bad ass for movies, but for games, no sir.
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Post by: ninjax on June 25, 2005, 08:42:00 PM
OK guys, i fully understand that there is a help topic about this somewhere else but the search keeps timing out on me, and this is a $3,000 purchase and I wanted to make sure that I got some help with this one.  I have to make this decision pretty soon, and I was looking for some help.  I have a TV that just died, and I have a friend that ows me a huge favor.  He works at a store that has HDTV's but he only has access to two big HDTV's.  These are the two that I can choose from...

The first is a Mitsubishi Microdisplay HERE

The second is an LCD Hitachi HERE

Which one would you get and why...
Like I said i know that there is a topic that goes over this, but I still dont understand what all the aspects of some TV's mean...or if what the retailer is saying is trying to trick you into thinking the TV will do something that it doesnt.

Thnx,
Ninjax
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Post by: Deftech on June 25, 2005, 08:54:00 PM
same price?

the Mistu is DLP, it lays waste to LCD any day of the week.

dont let anyone else tell you otherwise.

this thread can be closed now.

next.........
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Post by: ninjax on June 25, 2005, 08:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Jun 25 2005, 11:05 PM)
same price?
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Post by: Deftech on June 25, 2005, 10:03:00 PM
Im guessing thats Mitsus marketing name, but its DLP tech so it rocks.

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Post by: ninjax on June 25, 2005, 10:21:00 PM
beerchug.gif .  The TV is going to be free, but the favor is worth more than that trust me, lol. I was kinda disappointed that it isn’t true 1080i, but from what I am reading it can upscale to it.  I’m pretty sure from what I am reading though most games will be 720p anyway.  Also, from what I hear from most everyone 720p looks better anyway, so i guess its a great score anyway i look at it  beerchug.gif
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Post by: Deftech on June 25, 2005, 10:44:00 PM
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Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: The.Deceitful on June 29, 2005, 12:42:00 AM
It's not a name brand, but is a very good find. I have a friend who owns one and I am thinking about getting the same. It's a Syntax Olevia 27" HD LCD Television that supports all resolutions (480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i) via HDTV Input (Y/Pb/Pr).

http://www2.buydig.c...&sku=SYNLT27HVS

Price: $880 w/ Shipping
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Post by: The.Deceitful on June 29, 2005, 01:25:00 AM
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Post by: nj12nets on July 02, 2005, 11:12:00 AM
can i do a favor to get that tv?
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Post by: ninjax on July 02, 2005, 12:36:00 PM
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Post by: aepuppetmaster on July 15, 2005, 01:01:00 AM
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its gunna be hard to find a good 46" hdtv for 1800 tho  sorry...
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 15, 2005, 07:25:00 AM
I second the Samsung notion.  I have yet to find a bad image on any of their LCD or CRT models.  Plus many of them come with an ATSC HD tuner which is worth every penny.  I bought my Sammy at Bestbuy so no worries.  They will pricematch just about anyone.
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Post by: chris_kalan on July 15, 2005, 08:38:00 AM
I say you go with a projector.  It is the best for the price and you will get a nice quality if you spend $1800.  I found this model:

http://www.bestbuy.c...d=1110266874767

It is $1899.  but you add it to your cart and it is on sale for $1804, so I'm sure you can managae the extra $5.

Projectors are definitely worth the look.
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Post by: aepuppetmaster on July 15, 2005, 02:45:00 PM
i say that u don't go with a projector   to finiky.  U don't want to have to always turn off all the lights eery time u want to play.  the dlp tv's are so so good   and they weigh only like 125 and are only 13" thick.  About the price math iono if they match internet prices    cuz that where u get the best deals.
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Post by: nateh90 on July 15, 2005, 06:44:00 PM
That projector wasnt high def anyways, my opinion is go with a hitachi or a samsung. Right now im using a kickass sharp 17" high def widescreen with TV tuner component and vga in. they dont make it anymore but you can get it on ebay for 500$
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 16, 2005, 07:14:00 AM
17"?  Damn... I haven't looked at a 17" anything in 5 years.  Not bragging, but I'm curious how you play games on such a small screen.

And projectors support HD, you just have to find one with component in or better.
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Post by: nj12nets on July 16, 2005, 08:46:00 AM
i play on a 13" sdtv. its not as bad as you would think
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 16, 2005, 01:03:00 PM
Depends on how close you are to it. If you are close, it's like using a monitor, if you are far, its like trying to use ur computer 5 feet away.

30" are the sweet spot for bang/buck. walmart has some hdtvs at low prices, like philips and sanyo and good prices. If you are looking for a larger screen, like 40-50", then walmart and costco have a 42" samsung for around 1k.
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 16, 2005, 10:49:00 PM
Would someone post an HDTV that you CANNOT use the Xbox on?  

As far as we know... if your TV has the "HDTV" logo on it, the Xbox (and the 360) will play HD on it.  All of them.
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Post by: chris_kalan on July 17, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
Yep, it will work.  As long a the logo matches, you're all set (thanks LowProfileWurm).

You will want to invest in the High Definition Pack or a Monster Cable Set to get the best quality though.  No sense in buying a Lamborghini if you're going to put regular unleaded in it, right?
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Post by: AFSTER on July 17, 2005, 11:02:00 AM
Right but what cable do i need

i hear xbox360 gona be component connections

so that tv doesnt have them

what cable do i need

component to dvi

i just cant find any
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Post by: c00ly on July 17, 2005, 02:05:00 PM
that first ouput

"Ext 1 Scart : Audio L/R, CVBS in / out, RGB" = Component
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Post by: chris_kalan on July 17, 2005, 02:10:00 PM
When the 360 comes out, there willbe specific cables to get the best quality.  They will be overpriced, but no worries about that now...you've got 5 months till it comes out.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on July 17, 2005, 06:40:00 PM
QUOTE(chris_kalan @ Jul 17 2005, 04:21 PM)
When the 360 comes out, there willbe specific cables to get the best quality.  They will be overpriced, but no worries about that now...you've got 5 months till it comes out.
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 20, 2005, 02:16:00 PM
there are many many product threads about the dvi and other converters, try checking them out. Basically, the component to dvi is an 'aftermarket' part for this lamborghini.
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 24, 2005, 10:48:00 AM
I didn't bouher taking a look because my 64mb of ram would make it a nightmare, but if that is the Toshiba, I highly reccomend NOT picking them up. The toshiba HF models aren't made my toshiba, but some other budget company and they are built like crap, so reviews say. Picture quality also suffers.
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on July 24, 2005, 04:17:00 PM
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Post by: fbfrost on July 25, 2005, 05:13:00 PM
my monitor has dvi in, will the xbox has dvi out?   if so instead of buying a new TV could i just play it on my 19' LCD monitor and call it a day?
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Post by: Tripme on July 25, 2005, 06:27:00 PM
There will be an optional A/V pack that provides VGA.  I know you can go from DVI to VGA with an adapter, not sure if it can work the other way around, someone else should be able to clear that up.

Here is the link to the accesories section that tells more about it
Accesories

Scroll Down a little bit on that page and you can see it.
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Post by: Carlo210 on July 25, 2005, 08:06:00 PM
Check out walmart for lower priced Philips 30" hdtv or the much better Sanyo 30" hdtvs.
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Post by: xcitor on July 25, 2005, 08:15:00 PM
QUOTE(DaBoyBk @ Jul 16 2005, 09:12 PM)
I wanna buy a hi defintion tv for a great price i am looking between the 27-32 inch range and leaning towards a Philips cause Sony is too expensive. But if  anyone has a good Sony deal I would consider it but as for a Philips I am kind of leaning towards it. Please help me out with some sites or stores that  I could buy from cause I hear Best Buy and Circuit City is too expensive. I am in NY.
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Post by: aepuppetmaster on July 25, 2005, 09:16:00 PM
i have a question about these tvs, in the specs it has Broadcast Format Displayed and Broadcast Format Supported.  so am i to understand that u can put all the suported formats in but all that can be displayed are the displayed ones.
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Post by: D33z on October 16, 2005, 07:38:00 AM
QUOTE(dajuice @ Oct 16 2005, 03:51 PM)
What do you guys think about the sony kd-34xbr960. Read a lot of good reviews on it and many rate it as the top CRT HDTV. The good thing about CRTs are that it's better than the LCDs and plasmas (that's what I have read) and the minus is that it weighs close to 200lbs. I seen some sites listing it as low as $1300 where many have it listed at $1800-$2000.
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Post by: D33z on October 16, 2005, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(EMAGDNIM @ Oct 17 2005, 12:36 AM)
Cool, what's the model number of it?
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Post by: D33z on October 17, 2005, 09:17:00 PM
biggrin.gif  , I'm loving it. I can't get over how amazing it is. To think, I almost got the JVC just because of the deal. Thanks for your inputs guys.  beerchug.gif
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Post by: HMAWL411 on October 21, 2005, 10:08:00 PM
well i have a post in the 360 forum cause i didnt see this thread so just ignore that one, since this is a different tv anyway.

well i have read through all 275 replies in this thread and learned a great deal about the whole hdtv and the 360 specs and everything but i want some input from some of you guys.

i heard great things about the sanyos at wal-mart so i started lookin at those and found this sanyo 23in lcd but it didnt have a whole lot of the specs (walmart never does)

so i took the whole 2 minutes to go to the sanyo site and found it here and by everything i read there, it sounds perfect.

it has 1280 x 720 pixels (WXGA), not sure what the WXGA is but i think the 1280 x 720 is what is perfect for the 360. and it is nativly 720p (it says it converts all signals to 720p so my guess would be that thats its native resolution). it has a 16x9 aspect ratio, and theres a bunch of other stuff like the contrast ratio, if anybody would explain that to me it would be helpful in the long run i guess. it has all kinds of inputs and everything and its in my price range about the max actually. i know $600 but im 15 and have no job, but maybe one soon. 23in is good, i have a 27in in my room but im never in my room, except when i sleep, every other hour of the day besides school im at my computer desk which has a 19in sylvania from like 5 or 6 years ago, so this would be a major upgrade. before anybody asks the 27in in my room is SDTV. and what about like 5.1 audio for this tv, not sure with the sound thing, but i learned a lot about the video.  also this tv will be mainly used for gaming, sometimes cable, but not like a cable box (hd stuff) just the cable that comes in from the street, its better then broadcast but not better then having a box, not sure what its called. it says somethin about a required set-top box for hd signals but thats just for tv right. i know its a lot of questions and stuff but your opinons would be greatly appreciated, and if anymore info is needed just ask, but i think i covered everything.
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 22, 2005, 10:15:00 AM
Since you have no job and no money, I suggest you take it slowly. I'm 16 and CURRENTLY have no job (had one a while ago). I have 300$-ish from my birthday and the money I got from my job which I didn't put into school savings. My brother has a bit more than me since he returned his ps2 at costco a month ago and got the 400$ back. Me and him are splitting the costs for the 360.

I will have no money after that, except for 150$ credit at ebgames and whatever I get when christmas comes around the corner. I'm looking for a job now, but that doesn't matter right now.

I will get the VGA adapter and play on my 15" monitor in my room. It does 1280x1024 (don't ask me how a 15" crt monitor does 1280x1024), so I can play Xbox 360 in 720p withnthe vga hookups.

I'm not gonna waste all my money on a bigger screen right now because, first of all, I'm only fugging 16. I'm not gonna go spend loads on surround sound because I'm fugging 16. I'm not gonna sacrafice everything else money can buy (school, gifts, games, trips to the movies, etc) to get a 'better' gaming experience. I know my limits as of now and I'm not gonna pretend I'm a 25-35 year old man with money to spare. Sure, many of the guys around us have monster HomeTheatre setups, but they are older than us and have a job etc. We can't feel like crap for having a crappy setup compared to them - we should have a crappy setup compared to them.

Don't get ahead of yourself. Someday you will get all that HT goodness, but right now we just can't afford it. No one expects us to have the bells and whistles, and you shouldn't either. If you did have the cash to spare, then I'd say go for it, but since you obviously don't, just wait it out and enjoy the next gen the best you can. There's nothing to be ashamed of.
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Post by: HMAWL411 on October 22, 2005, 11:45:00 AM
well i have like 330 from my birthday, and im plannin on trading in my ps2 and gamecube and some of my older systems, since the most recent one i touched was my ps2 a year ago when san andreas came out. im owed some allownace too and i think you can get like 70 for a ps2 not sure how much for a gc though. and i have a fair share of games for the ps2 so i think i can get about 500 saved up and then maybe a loan from my parents for the rest, and pay them back with money i get for christmas. its not like i was looking at some $3000 plasma or dlp or somethin, just a $600 lcd. and the sound can wait and will probably never be hooked up anyways since that would be two sets of 5.1 speakers on my computer desk, which doesnt have a whole lot of room anyways, enough for that tv and xbox and some computer stuff. so does that seem like a good tv, i have no idea what the WXGA thing is after the resolution, or the contrast ratio and stuff.

i already have a 360 preordered that im getting for christmas so i dont have to worry about buying that, and a couple of games preodered too so all im lookin for is a tv now.
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Post by: HMAWL411 on October 22, 2005, 10:27:00 PM
ok well i decided against a tv, i figure ill use my monitor, a 17in gateway, so i went to the specs sheet on the gateway site and i dont think its HD. Here's the spec sheet incase someone wants to prove me wrong

so right there on gateway's mainpage is a new 21in widescreen HD monitor they have. i know a lot of you are going to say you could get a better deal on other sites, but my parents hate ordering things offline, about the only place they have ordered from is gateway so i figure thats my best chance of getting them to order something.

so here is this Monitor it has a component input on it so i dont think i would even have to buy the VGA cable. my question is this, i have a 5.1 sound system hooked to my pc, with a creative sound blaster live ls 5.1 sound card. so how could i go about hooking up my 360's video to that monitor and just switch to that whenever i want to play and then back to pc and so forth. and then hook the audio to the 5.1 speakers i have hooked to my computer. i have no idea how i would do this since there are no audio inputs on the monitor and the ones on my sound card are a 3.5mm headphone jack lookin port. so i know i cant just directly hook them up to the 360, so is this even possible to do, or would i have to play with no sound.

i figure a new monitor will be more useful then a new tv cause i can use it for gaming and for the computer instead of just one, now just to figure out the sound issue.
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Post by: D33z on October 23, 2005, 04:18:00 AM
beerchug.gif I sure as hell wouldn't have known what to do with myself with the system that I have now, when I was your age. You'll get there. My entertainment at my age is my tv, having a kid, I don't get out as much as I used to, so, my huge tv compensates. Enjoy your youth and have some fun away from the tv!!  biggrin.gif
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Post by: ILLusions0fGrander on October 23, 2005, 05:36:00 AM
user posted image
1800 with a 5 year service plan (half refundable if i dont use it after 5 years)... and i LOVE it. im sure 360 will look great on it... same one as first post only bigger i think.. so its a mitsu, and ive heard nightmares from the place i bought it that a bunch didnt work, guess i got lucky.... my best advice... tote your box to the store you are buying it from and test it.. thats what i did.

and before anyone says it, i might as well.. "nice crates"
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 23, 2005, 09:52:00 AM
I still personally love crt rear proj. sets. I dunno why....
The picture is just so sharp, blacks and whites are foolproof, and the colors are nice.
Haven't seen many DLP sets Close-up yet, though. We'll see what the next big thing is in a couple of years (if people can stick to one type of display technology for gods sake).
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Post by: sheepie on October 26, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
just seen a guy post these pics of the dev kit on another forum

www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/tried.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3601.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3602.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3603.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3604.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3605.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3606.JPG
www.thekrazyhouse.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/3607.JPG
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Post by: kdx80boy on October 26, 2005, 04:42:00 PM
I am thinking about getting the Olevia 26" LT26HVX.  It has 8ms respose time.  Is this good for the xbox360?  Also, does anybody own this tv that can tell me if it is good or not?
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Post by: VariableElite on October 26, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
Hey. Anybody have any opinions on this monitor? It's a Mitsubishi 55" CRT RPTV. Supposedly it handles 720P natively.

Thanks for your input...
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Post by: slayer61 on October 28, 2005, 06:31:00 PM
if i buy the VGA cable and play on my 19 inch pc monitor am i going to get a much better picture than regular tv. what format would this be is it going to be highdefinition or comparible to it
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Post by: HaloFool90 on October 29, 2005, 11:04:00 PM
I know you all are getting sick of these topics but I figured I should get your guy's opinions  before I go about buying a new tv. So any ways I'm looking into getting a new TV for my room specifically for Xbox 360. I've heard that CRT is the best so that is what I've been looking for. This is the one I like the best HERE. I know it's under "Standard TV's" but Its really a high def one. Any ways your opinion is greatly appreciated.
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Post by: 110100100 on October 29, 2005, 11:59:00 PM
seems just like all the other 1080i crt's around...

should post in the 360 audio video section though
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Post by: HaloFool90 on October 30, 2005, 01:11:00 AM
oh ha my bad, mods could you please move this. My bad.
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on October 30, 2005, 01:02:00 AM
yeah that one looks good.

has plenty of connections on the back, so you should have to worry about running out of them.

use component video cables for teh best results.

is a digital video output going to be avilable on the 360?
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on October 30, 2005, 02:10:00 AM
QUOTE(tirri313 @ Oct 30 2005, 08:15 PM)
we get component.... no hdmi or dvi
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Post by: HaloFool90 on October 30, 2005, 11:03:00 AM
so what kind of problems will the "geometry issues" give me?
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Post by: HaloFool90 on October 30, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
beerchug.gif . If any one has a good 30 or 32 inch set they'd reccomend that would be great.
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Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on October 30, 2005, 02:22:00 PM
QUOTE(HaloFool90 @ Oct 31 2005, 07:29 AM)
K thanks for the help beerchug.gif . If any one has a good 30 or 32 inch set they'd reccomend that would be great.
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Post by: deadpool66 on October 30, 2005, 03:05:00 PM
Needs to be at least 30 in and widscreen and would have to at least support 1080i.

Would this on be good any http://www.walmart.c...duct_id=2630436. Right now I have 30 inch toshiba flat screen but is not hdtv.
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 30, 2005, 03:33:00 PM
QUOTE(HaloFool90 @ Oct 30 2005, 10:29 PM)
K thanks for the help beerchug.gif . If any one has a good 30 or 32 inch set they'd reccomend that would be great.
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Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on October 30, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
id suggest this http://product.samsu...selTab=Features
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Post by: tonloc79 on October 30, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
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Post by: deadpool66 on October 30, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
how bout this even though its lcd http://www.walmart.c...duct_id=3861443
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Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on October 30, 2005, 08:06:00 PM
QUOTE(deadpool66 @ Oct 31 2005, 01:42 AM)
how bout this even though its lcd http://www.walmart.c...duct_id=3861443
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Post by: Chancer on October 31, 2005, 09:57:00 AM
QUOTE
on a second note, theyre also not made my toshiba.

They are Vestel chassis sets. As correctly advised have a re-think before buying one of these.
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Post by: throwingks on October 31, 2005, 10:07:00 AM
I reccommend a thin-tube CRT from Samsung. Some say it has geometry issues also though.
http://www.samsung.c...0105_0000089663
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on October 31, 2005, 11:32:00 AM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Oct 31 2005, 02:18 PM)
I reccommend a thin-tube CRT from Samsung. Some say it has geometry issues also though.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on October 31, 2005, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Oct 31 2005, 02:43 PM)
I agree.  The SlimFit Sammy is gorgeous.  Although mine hasn't displayed any geometry problems... yet.  blink.gif
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Post by: Carlo210 on October 31, 2005, 08:11:00 PM
QUOTE(joepenis @ Oct 31 2005, 11:05 PM)
YES, its comparable to high def. 720p i think is going to be the best comparaison.
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Post by: kdx80boy on October 31, 2005, 10:04:00 PM
Unless you need the space, why pay $150 more for the slimfit 30" samsung when you can get the normal one for $750?  It is the exact same tv with the exact same inputs, only the thin one is 1/3 thinner.
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Post by: gamerguy999 on October 31, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
smile.gif

As for actual performance, on curcuit city, the average customer rating is 4.4 out of 5, which is pretty good.

http://www.circuitci...lReview.do#tabs
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Post by: pennywisdom on October 31, 2005, 11:25:00 PM
QUOTE(frogsmasha @ Nov 1 2005, 02:29 AM)
I will probably get something to that tv, and it doesn't need to be 1/3 thin anyways.
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Post by: deadpool66 on October 31, 2005, 11:27:00 PM
Thats about the price point I was looking for but i dont have enough money does anyone know if bestbuy has layaway?
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Post by: deadpool66 on October 31, 2005, 11:33:00 PM
Fucking sweet my new viewsonics native resolution is 1280x1024. Only one ? will it be widescreen with black bars are will it be distorted to fit monitor? I would rather widescreen with a bit of the monitor not being used till I can get an hdtv.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on November 01, 2005, 06:19:00 AM
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Post by: Larrimus on November 01, 2005, 07:27:00 AM
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Post by: twistedsymphony on November 01, 2005, 08:15:00 AM
QUOTE(Larrimus @ Nov 1 2005, 10:38 AM)
I've never believed the geometry issues but the one on display in our department does have issues with the sides of the picture bowing inward...kinda looks like this.
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 01, 2005, 09:17:00 AM
ohmy.gif  <- my mouth hit the floor.  The ONLY problem I have with the TV is that the component selector isn't on the "source" button.   I have to go into config and select the component input.  But that's really minor as I never use anything but the component inputs!

As for the whole "why spend more on the slimmer one" question, twisted is correct.  This TV supports 720p natively (unusual for a CRT).  I believe this stems from the built in ATSC tuner which is worth $200+ outside the box.  You really can't get a better CRT for the price.  Especially if you have the Rewards program at BestBuy and purchase BestBuy gift cards on eBay for 85% face value.  I got this TV for roughly $700 when it first hit the street!  ($950 - 10% coupon - $170 saved buying giftcards on ebay = $685 + tax)  biggrin.gif



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Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 01, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 01, 2005, 09:47:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Oct 31 2005, 05:38 PM)
I recently helped a friend shop for a new HDTV... we ended up deciding on one of the slimfit Samsungs...
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Post by: Larrimus on November 01, 2005, 10:13:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 1 2005, 11:26 AM)
It's called "Pin-Cushioning" and that should be adjustable in the display options under "Pin Cushioning" or "Side Pin"
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Post by: BottleB on November 01, 2005, 11:30:00 AM
How's this for a TV, seems good overall?
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Post by: throwingks on November 01, 2005, 11:37:00 AM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Nov 1 2005, 09:58 AM)
beerchug.gif   Want to tune mine with your ubiquitous fine tooth comb???  biggrin.gif   I set up the color and contrast with a THX disc, but I'm not very savvy with anything beyond that.
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Post by: BottleB on November 01, 2005, 11:55:00 AM
Sorry for another thread like this but i did my research so dont flame!!!!
From what i see this tv is the shiznit for people who dont want to flame up there wallet for a TV....


http://www.bestbuy.c...17&catid=23239#

Im prolly gonna head out and buy today!!!! So tell me whatcha think????
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Post by: Deftech on November 01, 2005, 01:00:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Nov 1 2005, 10:52 AM)
Hehehe, I'm so hyped about that VGA box.  I have a 20" Dell 2005FPW just waiting for that 360 in 720p.  Even tho I hate playing on an LCD, it will be nice to have a second HDTV  to play 360 on when the girlfriend wants to watch Desperate Housewives...  tongue.gif
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Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 01, 2005, 01:14:00 PM
I dunno if things are different in Canada, but I looked at that TV too and I gotta say the Sammy Slimfit looked better.  I just wasn't digging the Toshiba's screen cover.  And the built in tuner sold me.  But, I don't even know if you get Samsung's in Canada so if you like it, grab it.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 01, 2005, 01:18:00 PM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Nov 1 2005, 03:48 PM)
"Comb the Samsung"
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: VariableElite on November 01, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
beerchug.gif


All right, fine, maybe I am bragging, a little. wink.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Carlo210 on November 01, 2005, 04:34:00 PM
Don't get the toshiba. It's made by another company (not toshiba) and is of shotty quality. Go for another similarly priced tv.


sorry for the vague reply.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: frogsmasha on November 01, 2005, 08:37:00 PM
I've been reading alot of the stuff posted here:
hxxp://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=541592&page=4&pp=30
Alllot of people have been saying this TV has geometry issues, but than some of them are ok. It would seem like a headache to gamble on this imo.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 01, 2005, 08:40:00 PM
QUOTE(BottleB @ Nov 1 2005, 02:41 PM)
How's this for a TV, seems good overall?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kdx80boy on November 01, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
He must be talking about the best buy inside of a circuit city.  Best Buy has the absolute worst return policy I have ever seen, but Circuit City is awesome.  Plus they keep the receipt inside of their computer so you don't have to keep yours.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: mirx999 on November 02, 2005, 01:37:00 AM
actually...I have the 30HF85 and I love it.  It is rumored that a lot of them have geometry and syncing problems, but I haven't seen that on my display.  I knew it was made by orion before I bought it, but it's got a 2 year warranty on it.  I say buy it, mine looks pretty damn sweet.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: rasmithuk on November 02, 2005, 06:49:00 AM
First off CRT isn't an option (not enough space) and neither is a HD TV (since the prices are really silly in the UK) so I'm probably going to go for a big LCD monitor and use the VGA lead for the 360.

So with this in mind I found three but I need a bit of help chosing between the them and I'd like to know what you guys think.

They are all 19" 1280x1024 units.

Base monitor is 600:1, 250 cd/m2, 12ms, VGA
http://www.dabs.com/...41025,41658&v=2
For an extra $12 I can get 500:1, 250 cd/m2, 12ms, VGA+DVI
http://www.dabs.com/...41025,41658&v=2
Or for an extra $15 there's 700:1, 300 cd/m2, 8ms, VGA
http://www.dabs.com/...41025,41658&v=2

I'm currently using a 15" 16ms LCD and I don't notice ghosting when playing PC games or videos.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Carlo210 on November 02, 2005, 02:08:00 PM
The last one, of course (better response time and contrast ratio).
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Carlo210 on November 02, 2005, 05:56:00 PM
Yes, it is a good tv.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: frogsmasha on November 02, 2005, 08:36:00 PM
uhh.gif

Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kdx80boy on November 03, 2005, 02:51:00 PM
I just bought this tv.  

http://product.samsu.....XR2678WHX/XAA

And everything I watch has grey bars on the side for tv, and black bars on the top and bottom for dvd's.  I don't understand why, if the movie is in 16x9 and my tv is 16x9, why have black bars?

Also, my main question is if I get the HD pack for the xbox and the xbox 360, will they also have the black bars on the top and bottom like a movie, or will it be set up right?  And I see an option in the xbox dashboard for either widescreen or letterbox, I thought those 2 were the same thing, which should I choose since my tv is 16x9?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 03, 2005, 03:09:00 PM
QUOTE(kdx80boy @ Nov 3 2005, 07:02 PM)
I just bought this tv. 
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 03, 2005, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(kdx80boy @ Nov 3 2005, 06:02 PM)
I just bought this tv. 
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kdx80boy on November 03, 2005, 03:27:00 PM
Thanks for the fast reply's.  I just wish the movie industry would make it standard to record in 16x9 to get rid of those pesky black bars.  But as long as my xbox 360 will take up the entire screen, I guess i'll be happy.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 03, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Nov 3 2005, 07:27 PM)
EDIT: DAMN LPW beat me  laugh.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 03, 2005, 03:52:00 PM
QUOTE(LowProfileWurm @ Nov 3 2005, 06:43 PM)
And that'll never happen.  It's like telling artists they can only use blue and red paint.  Takes away the artistic style.  And some people are just stubborn about "wider is better".  Oh well.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: VariableElite on November 04, 2005, 09:35:00 AM
I just picked up the Samsung Slimfit TXR3079WH, and it rocks. There is a very sight bowing like what is described, but I'm talking like 2 milimeters here. The only reason it's noticable is because I knew to look for it.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: LowProfileWurm on November 04, 2005, 09:41:00 AM
QUOTE(VariableElite @ Nov 4 2005, 12:42 PM)
I just picked up the Samsung Slimfit TXR3079WH, and it rocks. There is a very sight bowing like what is described, but I'm talking like 2 milimeters here. The only reason it's noticable is because I knew to look for it.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: twistedsymphony on November 04, 2005, 09:54:00 AM
tongue.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: frogsmasha on November 04, 2005, 10:32:00 PM
QUOTE(frogsmasha @ Nov 3 2005, 04:43 AM)
Since i am looking for an HDTV I wont be using it for true HD signal.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kdx80boy on November 08, 2005, 06:07:00 PM
I got my Samsung TXR-2678 (widescreen HDTV) and it also has the geometry issues.  I was wondering if anyone has gone into the service mode and adjusted it manually?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: granty on November 13, 2005, 05:41:00 PM
Ok i wondered where this post had gone but find it pinned

I want advice on two TV's please and which one over other?

Well we all know CRT is clearer than LCD/Plasma, but the thing is for the UK no CRT tv's are made, well thats what everyone says. I just stumbled upon this http://www.digiuk.co...72&c=&guid=&s=# which is a CRT tv for the UK in HD. Its only 1080i but at £100 cheaper than the cheapest LCD tv

Or this LCD http://www.ebuyer.co...oduct_uid=83269

I want proper HDTV not upscaled, I take it these both support that?

Thanks, Granty
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: hazed69 on November 14, 2005, 01:26:00 PM
what about this lcd
would i have to worry about ghosting
http://data.neovo.co...t PDF/X-17A.pdf
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Statecowboy on November 15, 2005, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(iwannadie @ Nov 9 2005, 01:33 AM)
KDF-E55A20
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Weem on November 15, 2005, 05:34:00 PM
I know little to nothing about TVs I have just been playing on some old one I have had for awile. I figured now is the time is upgrade. I went to EB and the television on the 360 looks pretty sharp.

I found it here:
http://www.electrodi.../discr25908.htm

I was just wondering if you think its a good buy(it seems like a nice TV). I will be going off to college soon so it seems this would be good. Also does anyone know offhand if it supports all the resolutions and things the Xbox360 can handle and I won't have to buy any separate HD box or something.

I know these are probably noob questions but if you could answer and not tell me to read a FAQ it would be nice. Also, do you think it is a good price for that TV(on sites like bestbuy it is $1000).

Thanks alot!
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 16, 2005, 03:50:00 AM
i am pretty sure that it supports 720p native, but will play 1080i.

its a nice tv, ive seen them in action (not play 360's...)
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Chancer on November 16, 2005, 06:03:00 AM
I have just played Kameo on the exact TV in Game (UK) for an hour and the graphics are superb on it. Th eonly downside is the screen size is not too big but quality wise it is spot on.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: aic007 on November 16, 2005, 03:35:00 PM
Probably the wrong forum but I got a call from a friend that can get me a great deal on a Sony KDE42XS955. My bro has one but I have yet to try my original xbox so I dont know how it displays 720p on it. The native resolution is 1024X1024 it will do all formats (480i/p 720p and 1080i) should I go with this or go for DLP. I know about burn in and what not but the price is too good to pass up and I figure I can mount it on my wall over my 32" XBR ( which doesnt do 720p, but does 1080i) and I could use the plasma for x360 and dvds and the CRT for everything else. Any suggestions.

thanks,
aic007
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Reaper527 on November 16, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
go for the plasma, i have a 50" sony plasma and haven't had any burn in problems. just look around online and you'll find settings that make it less prone. (for example don't put your blacks and whites all the way up)
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Deftech on November 16, 2005, 03:59:00 PM
Turn the Fookin'(my word of the day) Contrast down..a lot.

get a test disc and run some tests  beerchug.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: ikecomp on November 16, 2005, 04:09:00 PM
I was seriously thinking of getting a plasma but I rape the hell out of my tv's so burn in would most defintely happen.

So after I get my 360 I will most definetly buy either a DLP or LCD (whichever one looks best when I hook up the 360 to it)
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Joergen on November 16, 2005, 04:25:00 PM
The 1024x1024 plasma is an ALIS display which uses an interlaced format like a normal CRT. Now it does have great picture quality but not as good as say a high end Panasonic Viera or Pioneer PDP (that costs double or triple anyway).

Just a heads up there so you wont actually get progressive with 720p even though it supports it.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Weem on November 16, 2005, 04:26:00 PM
smile.gif.

also if anyone knows where to get it cheaper tell
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: mathias on November 16, 2005, 04:31:00 PM
1024x1024 isn't even close to 720p......


it depends on what type of great deal its going to be....



and dlp way over lcd... and its easy to find a dlp that is native 720p.....


or wait a year and get 1080p native they have some but very expensive....
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: ferrari_rulz_02 on November 16, 2005, 05:01:00 PM
why dont you get one bigg monitor, that can do picture in picture?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Weem on November 16, 2005, 07:28:00 PM
money.
plus this size is perfect for my desk. i have a pretty large old tv its not bad.....but it isnt hd or anything special
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kdx80boy on November 17, 2005, 01:59:00 PM
I thought people might like to know that according to samsung's website, Most TX-R series dynaflat HDTV's do 720p and 1080i natively.  So if you want a tube tv that does both, get a TX-R series.

Here is the link if you don't believe me,

http://erms.samsungu...=41&PROD_ID=300
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: bigjonny on November 18, 2005, 03:06:00 PM
hey im looking into this monitor but im not sure about the brand but more the refresh rate of what it says 10-15ms.  will that be ok?

linky
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: ikecomp on November 18, 2005, 08:05:00 PM
If you are going to use it for games you usually want something around 8 ms
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: amb7247 on November 20, 2005, 12:12:00 AM
Have you guys ever heard of Tatung or Olevia. I'm sure their mostly foreign brands. Just curious how they rank in those parts
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: amb7247 on November 20, 2005, 12:23:00 AM
anything 16ms or better is barely or not even noticable of any type of ghosting. Preferrably you want 12ms or better.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: rulvnthatwigs on November 20, 2005, 11:20:00 AM
Hey I'm goin to get a new HDTV with surround sound for my 360.
Can you experts help me with deciding?

Samsung 40" lcd
or
Sony 40" lcd

Thanks.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Ballz2TheWallz on November 20, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
QUOTE(amb7247 @ Nov 20 2005, 08:30 AM)
anything 16ms or better is barely or not even noticable of any type of ghosting. Preferrably you want 12ms or better.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: amb7247 on November 22, 2005, 09:55:00 AM
not on my dell 2001FP. There is zero ghosting. Your confused.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: kr580 on November 26, 2005, 02:03:00 AM
Will this work well enough for Xbox/360?

Syntax Olevia 26" LCD HDTV

I was browsing Circuit City looking for some Christmas gift ideas and ran across this TV. They're selling it for $499 ($799 - $100 instant savings - $200 Mail-in rebate) so the price is nice. I probably could squeak out enough for this. I don't have much space so this is about as big as I could fit so the size isn't an issue. Plus any bigger and I'm looking to spend double the price of this. It fully supports the 360's resolutions (supports 480i, 480p, 720P, 1080i). I've been meaning to find a bit better TV and this got me goin on research.

I'm really just worried about the picture. I've searched the forums here and heard that LCD's are bad for these and those reasons. Is it really bad? Right now I have some cheapish Panasonic 27" CRT TV so if it's any better I'm happy. Maybe make a Pros and Cons list so I can figure out if it's for me.

Also, I'll be sitting about 10 feet away, maybe more. It seems like that's ample space away so I don't see the pixels. Would this be any concern?

 Thanks - Kevin huh.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: tw0_f0ur_ on November 26, 2005, 04:02:00 PM
QUOTE(ckb1985 @ Nov 26 2005, 05:34 PM) View Post

even tho the 1st on is a LCD it's not as good as the CRT. But its a CRT so ts going o be BIG AND HEAVY but the picture will be good + its 16:9 Aspect ratio and its 27" Personally i would go with the CRT just b/c its HD, 16:9 ratio and it has HDMI
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Mick Garvey on November 27, 2005, 10:06:00 PM
http://www.tigerdire...1561114&CatId=0
It looks like a good deal to me, they also have a 21" CRT for 79$ I think.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: krustytheclown on November 28, 2005, 07:42:00 AM
This has probably been mentioned or asked before but...

Would this monitor work in high def on a xbox 360 with the vga cable? What resolution would it be? Sorry if answered before. Do not understand that much about high definition.

http://www.tigerdire...83573&CatId=172

http://www.accuratei...ils.asp?iid=373
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: tw0_f0ur_ on November 28, 2005, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(krustytheclown @ Nov 28 2005, 09:49 AM) View Post

This has probably been mentioned or asked before but...

Would this monitor work in high def on a xbox 360 with the vga cable? What resolution would it be? Sorry if answered before. Do not understand that much about high definition.

http://www.tigerdire...83573&CatId=172

http://www.accuratei...ils.asp?iid=373

yes it will work in high def
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: krustytheclown on November 28, 2005, 11:42:00 AM
Would it be 720p?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: tw0_f0ur_ on November 28, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
it should produce 720p and 1080i but dont mark my word
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: dante327 on November 29, 2005, 11:54:00 PM
what do you guys think of this tv...im not familiar with the different tvs and would really like someone that has some knowledge to comment on this system with the 360

http://www.bestbuy.c...d=1077628885916
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: Necrophiliac on November 30, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
I know this is a noobish question but how can you tell whether it is 720p or 1080i by looking at the native resolution?
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: dong2che on December 09, 2005, 02:15:00 AM
i will be getting a Samsung LA32R51B LCD tv for the xbox 360...i just saw it upclose and in action and i'm completely smittened by it love.gif
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: zeebo on December 09, 2005, 11:30:00 AM
I'm looking for a new TV for christmas. My parents agreed to buying one, but they said I already have a TV that works fine and they aren't willing to buy one that is high priced. Hopefully somebody can help me find what I have been looking for.

I either want an 24+ in HDTV or 19+ in LCD. (LCD doubtful because all are expensive)
Widescreen please.
I want it to be able to support 1080i (interlaced) or 720p (progressive scane).
This is the hard part, the price. I'm not exactly sure on what they are willing to spend but $400 is definately maximum.

That's really the only priorities I have for a new TV. I've searched and searched, but have not found anything. I'm sure someone out there can help me.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: linkycat on December 10, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
So my 19 inch TV broke two days ago and today I'm going to replace it...  I think I'm leaning towards the Samsung 30 inch Wide model TXR3079WH...

http://www.bestbuy.c...d=1099396990967

Do you think that's a good buy, or is there something else in the under 1000 price range that is better?  I don't want an LCD, or plasma obviously... so CRT it is smile.gif

Thanks!

- Matt
Title: Which HDTV/Monitor Should I buy?
Post by: hailtothelion on December 10, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
Guys....I am going to get a 360 and an HD tv once I finish my basement in about 2 weeks....I have been researching HD tvs and have not come up with choice yet.  I am looking to spend around $2000 on a tv.  I want to play the 360 on it but also get HD tv on it and use it as a home theatre entertainment center type of thing for me and the Misses.  I need some suggestions on what is the best HD tv for both of these purposes that fits my price range.  Any help is appreciated....

HTTL