Post by: Deftech on September 14, 2005, 03:43:00 PM
Post by: Moleman on September 14, 2005, 03:47:00 PM
Post by: ebrunn on September 14, 2005, 04:52:00 PM
Post by: brooksie48 on September 14, 2005, 05:15:00 PM
QUOTE(Moleman @ Sep 14 2005, 05:58 PM)
I've seen so many articles saying how the controller will rock.-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: ebrunn on September 14, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
-
they also said that it is currently only running on one of the three cores on the xbox. Damn that thing is powerful
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: Deftech on September 14, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
-
This is why Cliffy said last week that the thing is a beast!
He came across some seriously untapped power thanks to the final hardware..
Its only gonna get better
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 15, 2005, 09:50:00 AM
-
Halo What?
Gears of War BABY!!! Damn this game is looking hot!
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: Deftech on September 15, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
-
damn it these servers are slow for me!!!
DLing!!!
10 minutes left!!!
OH MY SHIT
This IS THE GAME to own!
Cliffy rocks!!!!!
Oh MY!
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 08:22:00 AM
-
Its funny how these western developers like to stereotype japanese gamers and think they have a chance in japan. If they dont show a certain level of respect for the japanese audience then they wont get it in return.
If all you need is big scary monsters and a third person camera in a game for the japanese ppl to fall in your trap then how do u expect to catch them? I cant speak for the japanese but im sure theyre not that stupid........
GoW will BOMB (like halo) in japan........mark my words. I dont think MS undertsands how to survive in that region yet.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
-
Post by: ebrunn on September 14, 2005, 07:30:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 14, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
He came across some seriously untapped power thanks to the final hardware..
Its only gonna get better
Post by: LowProfileWurm on September 15, 2005, 09:50:00 AM
Gears of War BABY!!! Damn this game is looking hot!
Post by: Deftech on September 15, 2005, 10:57:00 AM
DLing!!!
10 minutes left!!!
OH MY SHIT
This IS THE GAME to own!
Cliffy rocks!!!!!
Oh MY!
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 08:22:00 AM
QUOTE
Cliffy B thinks that the title may even help the console find a foothold in Japan. Its no secret that Japanese gamers dont like FPS games, which is why even the mighty Halo franchise bombed in the country. Gears of War is third-person, and features something Japanese gamers like a lot: big scary monsters
Its funny how these western developers like to stereotype japanese gamers and think they have a chance in japan. If they dont show a certain level of respect for the japanese audience then they wont get it in return.
If all you need is big scary monsters and a third person camera in a game for the japanese ppl to fall in your trap then how do u expect to catch them? I cant speak for the japanese but im sure theyre not that stupid........
GoW will BOMB (like halo) in japan........mark my words. I dont think MS undertsands how to survive in that region yet.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 08:37:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 16 2005, 10:33 AM)
Its funny how these western developers like to stereotype japanese gamers and think they have a chance in japan. If they dont show a certain level of respect for the japanese audience then they wont get it in return.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
-
I dont think they did either but i just dont feel that would be a selling point for the game in japan. I feel the japanese are more interested in emotional experiences in their game and halo doesnt give you that, and i dont think GoW will give you that either. RPGs over there do well for this reason, look at MGS, quirky games work for this reason too. Grand theft did well over there cause it appealed to the inner criminal in everyone. Nintendo games make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Sony seems more mature and the games seem very movie like and appeals to those that think of games as a real replacement for movies in the future.
I could be wrong but im trying to put myself in their shoes. I think to them the xbox itself has no personality like the other products on the market so they cant relate to the stuff thats being put on it.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: ikecomp on September 16, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
-
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 09:13:00 AM
QUOTE
also i dont think they chose a 2nd person view because it would "trick" or draw the japanese audience, they chose it for gameplay reasons
I dont think they did either but i just dont feel that would be a selling point for the game in japan. I feel the japanese are more interested in emotional experiences in their game and halo doesnt give you that, and i dont think GoW will give you that either. RPGs over there do well for this reason, look at MGS, quirky games work for this reason too. Grand theft did well over there cause it appealed to the inner criminal in everyone. Nintendo games make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Sony seems more mature and the games seem very movie like and appeals to those that think of games as a real replacement for movies in the future.
I could be wrong but im trying to put myself in their shoes. I think to them the xbox itself has no personality like the other products on the market so they cant relate to the stuff thats being put on it.
Post by: ikecomp on September 16, 2005, 09:16:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 16 2005, 09:33 AM)
Its funny how these western developers like to stereotype japanese gamers and think they have a chance in japan. If they dont show a certain level of respect for the japanese audience then they wont get it in return.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 09:34:00 AM
-
lol.......there is a fine line between marketing research and stereotyping. Market research is well informed and calculated while stereotyping is born out narrow-mindedness and ignorance. That statement about about big monsters selling a game in japan is straight up ignorant!!
Grand theft did well without "big monsters" and prince of persia 2 bombed despite having "big monsters". That so called "market research" seems a bit off, dont you think?
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: ikecomp on September 16, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
-
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 09:34:00 AM
QUOTE
I don't think its stereotyping as much as it is marketing research. And there is nothing disrespectful about knowing the demographics to which you are trying to tailor a product to. Its common knowledge that there are differences in the types of games that sale well here and the kind that sale well over there.
So if I understood that and wanted to release a game there I would probably lean towards releasing more titles that appeal to that region. Cause I don't know about you but their are a few games that were released in Japan for the PS2 but not over here that maybe I wanted to play but never got the chance. Now I wonder why that is dry.gif
You guessed it, MARKET RESEARCH
So if I understood that and wanted to release a game there I would probably lean towards releasing more titles that appeal to that region. Cause I don't know about you but their are a few games that were released in Japan for the PS2 but not over here that maybe I wanted to play but never got the chance. Now I wonder why that is dry.gif
You guessed it, MARKET RESEARCH
lol.......there is a fine line between marketing research and stereotyping. Market research is well informed and calculated while stereotyping is born out narrow-mindedness and ignorance. That statement about about big monsters selling a game in japan is straight up ignorant!!
Grand theft did well without "big monsters" and prince of persia 2 bombed despite having "big monsters". That so called "market research" seems a bit off, dont you think?
Post by: ikecomp on September 16, 2005, 10:02:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 16 2005, 09:33 AM)
Its funny how these western developers like to stereotype japanese gamers and think they have a chance in japan. If they dont show a certain level of respect for the japanese audience then they wont get it in return.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
-
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:04:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 16 2005, 11:24 AM)
I dont think they did either but i just dont feel that would be a selling point for the game in japan. I feel the japanese are more interested in emotional experiences in their game and halo doesnt give you that, and i dont think GoW will give you that either. RPGs over there do well for this reason, look at MGS, quirky games work for this reason too. Grand theft did well over there cause it appealed to the inner criminal in everyone. Nintendo games make them feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Sony seems more mature and the games seem very movie like and appeals to those that think of games as a real replacement for movies in the future.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
-
The quality of mgs' gameplay doesnt matter (I personally hate the game), its the fact that it offers a certain emotional experience that appeals to the japanese audience. Very few xbox games (if any) has created a similar experience.
-
Title: Gears Of War - Hands On Impressions!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
-
Post by: incognegro on September 16, 2005, 10:27:00 AM
QUOTE
again i agree with you to a point. i think its a good direction for developers to aim to be in the same category as movies (and other forms of entertainment) however games like MGS are basically movies. they arent enough of an interactive movie as you sit and watch for a long time sometimes. i understand your point and some of it is true but if i want my game to be like a movie i want to be in control of the movie not watching it.
The quality of mgs' gameplay doesnt matter (I personally hate the game), its the fact that it offers a certain emotional experience that appeals to the japanese audience. Very few xbox games (if any) has created a similar experience.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 16, 2005, 10:45:00 AM
QUOTE(incognegro @ Sep 16 2005, 12:38 PM)
history has shown that if a game appeals to them despite the region its from that the japanese will swallow their pride and buy it. Yes they are stereotyping us at times but we need to break out that stereotype by giving them the titles they like. Like I said, respect them and they will respect us.