Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 10:50:00 AM
Sadly some people here still don't know theres more than a General, or Gamers area. On that note....
Cliffy B, THE Dev of all Developers has spoken..
Cliff Bleszinki, Epic Games Lead Designer, has seen the future; or so he claims. Does he have a crystal ball or Jedi abilities? Not that we know of, but probably having access to both Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 development kits provided by MS and Sony respectively, give you a nice chance to foresee the future of gaming.
Last week, CliffyB reported that Epic Games has received the final Xbox 360 Xenon Development Kit, which finally gives game developers final silicon as powerful as the hardware that will ship with the retail version of the Xbox 360.
In his latest blog update, the developer of Gears of War gives us a small teaser of what we can expect later this year with the launch of the Xbox 360:
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I have had more than a taste of what true next generation gaming is going to have to offer and I'm here to tell you -
You're in for something special.
I can't speak much for Sony right now - yeah, we're working on stuff for the PS3 but honestly I'm so busy with Gears that it's all I'm seeing and I can tell you - MS is giving you a hell of a system. This thing is a BEAST and is capable of MUCH GREATNESS.
Sigh. That's all I can say so far. I am, after all, under NDA.
You're in for something special.
I can't speak much for Sony right now - yeah, we're working on stuff for the PS3 but honestly I'm so busy with Gears that it's all I'm seeing and I can tell you - MS is giving you a hell of a system. This thing is a BEAST and is capable of MUCH GREATNESS.
Sigh. That's all I can say so far. I am, after all, under NDA.
We guess such excitement comes after playing with the final Xbox 360 XeDK and moving the current build of Gears of War to the new hardware. Or has MS incorporated any new feature to the Xbox 360? If thats the case, we dont expect to learn about it from official sources since everyone is under NDA, Maybe we should have to wait until Sept 27th?
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:06:00 AM
Post by: crobar on September 08, 2005, 11:17:00 AM
thats all i got lol
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:22:00 AM
QUOTE(crobar @ Sep 8 2005, 01:28 PM)
um...nice...yay...im glad its a beast....
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Ozy on September 08, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
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Post by: Ozy on September 08, 2005, 11:26:00 AM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 8 2005, 06:33 PM)
If you need him gone, I can make it so he never existed 
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Heet on September 08, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
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Ive heard all of that before. Now SHOW us something other than PGR3 that proves it. Im seeing screens of games and then I think, maybe just keep the current xbox for 6 months until the good games start coming out. The quake 3 vids I saw left me way unimpressed. Tiger woods, tony hawk, PD0, all of these look like absolute shyt. Anyway, if he says so, I believe him, but being so close to launch, Im just surprised that all I have to look forward to in a launch title is the same game I was excited about months ago, PGR3. And actually, now im hearing its not even going to be ready possibly until months after launch? GR3 looks cool, but I need a REAL good reason to plop 500$ and im just saying so far, I haven't seen it.
Flame away.
^Apparently Im one of the zombies lol. Seriously though, I dont care whats inside if its not reflected on my hdtv.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 11:31:00 AM
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i replied to this in the other forum
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
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Sweet i cant wait to get my hands on next gen..
you mentioned sep 27th what goodies do you suspect are coming? tebo,or something to do with gaming.
I only care about what the games are like having music and stuff doesnt tickle my pickle.
all this next gen adding stuff together worries me its like buying a tv with a dvd player attached i prefer not getting them together because it works better and if something goes wrong it wont crap out the whole system...all this media center crap spounds good but i want a gaming concul not a do it all get on line pay your bills crap..i hope that is not the case..
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
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no reason to flame.
I will say this..
I feel sorry for you if you feel that Gears of War doesnt look next gen.
I truly do.
Thats primarily what this is about, seeing as Cliffy B is MAKING the game
that game alone is reason to buy a 360, whether you want to wait for a price drop is up to you.
Edit: I had to add the following...
you really are a confused individual. PGR 3, if it misses launch day, will be out a week or 2 later..why would you believe the shit you read that says it'll be months after? Don't you read anything posted here? Such as Bizarres last update from a day ago?
and the games you mentioned are NOT exlcusive..they are cross platform, except for PD Zero and Noone knows the truth behind those graphics yet.
Tiger woods?!?!
hahahahaha
yeah lest base a system on a game like that.
The intellect here is killing me
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Heet on September 08, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
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Well I figured a question of intelligence was going to be the reaction, but I have to admit Im not as up to date as you and many on here. I read it somewhere (xboxscene main page I believe). Anyways, hope it isnt true trust me. And ya GOW looks great, but isnt that coming out like 6 months after launch? Glad we got you Deftech because your the only one I see throwing confetti into the air over all of this.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
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sad that Im the only one huh, there are others but they dont like confrontation, or in this case, a small debate.
Hey if I were you and you dont feel like pgr 3 and others at launch are worth the price of a new system, I wouldnt get it either. Alls I said was I feel sorry for you, I wish you were as easy to please as me, and liked the same games I do. Because in my case...
I'd get a 360 even if DOA 4 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if PGR 3 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if Call of Duty 2 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if Ghost Recon 3 was the ONLY game at launch.
I could do without the other games Im getting at launch like Quake 4, Condemned, and posibly test Drive or Full Auto.
Id definitely get a 360 just for Gears, Huxley, Dark Sector, War Devil, Splinter cell 4...
Im sure you get the point
Honestly, using games like Tiger woods and Tony Hawk(no offense to m_Hael) is just not fair.
I need just one good reason to buy a system, and I named plenty above.
And Gears wont be out for a good 6 to 8 months. I can wait. Im glad its NOT a launch title, it gives Cliffy time to dig in!
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
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Why doesnt anyone mention
Dog tags ....this game looks rock solid and looks better than G.O.W to me.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: incognegro on September 08, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
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Really, how many have you seen on your hdtv?
lol.....
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
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i havent been this excited about a new console since the Dreamcast days.
i cant even agree with that one. the only thing ive seen from that game were the early pics which looked ok. but compared to GoW there really isnt much going on screen. im sure it will get better but GoW is a beast in its own class with the interactive environments, creatures the size of houses, and just overall polish that the game has already shown in its early stages.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:22:00 PM
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Im not crazy about creatures in games thats probably why..a game like resident evil would be tremendus if you can kill other humans that shoot back not walk around saying .........brains...............brains
I prefer to get call of duty 2 there is too many games alike
unreal,quake,i like the engine but all these futureristic games dont appeal to me.
even ghost recon 3 seems to be going that way yhe first thing i will do with recon
is get rid of that futuristic fake helmit view or whatever
what makes me want the 360 the most is games like modern combat and next gen will be in full effect in this area shooting,driving,flying ect.ect.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
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I give up
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
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I know what you mean...
Ill get a 360 even if sonic was the only lauch option..top that.
there is a game for everyone...why hold out unless your broke its a good reason to get a job..
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
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I don't know about the 06 games, but for NCAA 2005 the PS2 version looks better and plays smoother.
Now I know why I got the xbox version for only $3
Most EA games play better on the PS2 because they are made for it first, then ported to the xbox.
Back on topic, yay the xbox 360 is a beast, but did we really need Cliffy B to tell us?
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
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i thought that was technology that the USA was really developing. i know its probably 10 years off but its still a bases of reality.
i can see the point of how some types of games arent for some people but no matter what your taste is its safe to say that the 360 has you covered in your faverate genre.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
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I don't see any Motorsports Sims, only arcade racers, I wouldnt consider it having me covered then
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
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Post by: Heet on September 08, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
Flame away.
^Apparently Im one of the zombies lol. Seriously though, I dont care whats inside if its not reflected on my hdtv.
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 11:33:00 AM
you mentioned sep 27th what goodies do you suspect are coming? tebo,or something to do with gaming.
I only care about what the games are like having music and stuff doesnt tickle my pickle.
all this next gen adding stuff together worries me its like buying a tv with a dvd player attached i prefer not getting them together because it works better and if something goes wrong it wont crap out the whole system...all this media center crap spounds good but i want a gaming concul not a do it all get on line pay your bills crap..i hope that is not the case..
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:34:00 AM
I will say this..
I feel sorry for you if you feel that Gears of War doesnt look next gen.
I truly do.
Thats primarily what this is about, seeing as Cliffy B is MAKING the game
that game alone is reason to buy a 360, whether you want to wait for a price drop is up to you.
Edit: I had to add the following...
you really are a confused individual. PGR 3, if it misses launch day, will be out a week or 2 later..why would you believe the shit you read that says it'll be months after? Don't you read anything posted here? Such as Bizarres last update from a day ago?
and the games you mentioned are NOT exlcusive..they are cross platform, except for PD Zero and Noone knows the truth behind those graphics yet.
Tiger woods?!?!
hahahahaha
yeah lest base a system on a game like that.
The intellect here is killing me
Post by: Heet on September 08, 2005, 11:43:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 11:52:00 AM
sad that Im the only one huh, there are others but they dont like confrontation, or in this case, a small debate.
Hey if I were you and you dont feel like pgr 3 and others at launch are worth the price of a new system, I wouldnt get it either. Alls I said was I feel sorry for you, I wish you were as easy to please as me, and liked the same games I do. Because in my case...
I'd get a 360 even if DOA 4 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if PGR 3 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if Call of Duty 2 was the ONLY game at launch.
I'd get a 360 even if Ghost Recon 3 was the ONLY game at launch.
I could do without the other games Im getting at launch like Quake 4, Condemned, and posibly test Drive or Full Auto.
Id definitely get a 360 just for Gears, Huxley, Dark Sector, War Devil, Splinter cell 4...
Im sure you get the point
Honestly, using games like Tiger woods and Tony Hawk(no offense to m_Hael) is just not fair.
I need just one good reason to buy a system, and I named plenty above.
And Gears wont be out for a good 6 to 8 months. I can wait. Im glad its NOT a launch title, it gives Cliffy time to dig in!
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:00:00 PM
Dog tags ....this game looks rock solid and looks better than G.O.W to me.
Post by: incognegro on September 08, 2005, 12:08:00 PM
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Seriously though, I dont care whats inside if its not reflected on my hdtv
Really, how many have you seen on your hdtv?
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Dog tags
lol.....
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 12:11:00 PM
i havent been this excited about a new console since the Dreamcast days.
QUOTE
Why doesnt anyone mention
Dog tags ....this game looks rock solid and looks better than G.O.W to me.
Dog tags ....this game looks rock solid and looks better than G.O.W to me.
i cant even agree with that one. the only thing ive seen from that game were the early pics which looked ok. but compared to GoW there really isnt much going on screen. im sure it will get better but GoW is a beast in its own class with the interactive environments, creatures the size of houses, and just overall polish that the game has already shown in its early stages.
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:22:00 PM
I prefer to get call of duty 2 there is too many games alike
unreal,quake,i like the engine but all these futureristic games dont appeal to me.
even ghost recon 3 seems to be going that way yhe first thing i will do with recon
is get rid of that futuristic fake helmit view or whatever
what makes me want the 360 the most is games like modern combat and next gen will be in full effect in this area shooting,driving,flying ect.ect.
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 12:31:00 PM
I give up
Post by: hugoboss1 on September 08, 2005, 12:39:00 PM
Ill get a 360 even if sonic was the only lauch option..top that.
there is a game for everyone...why hold out unless your broke its a good reason to get a job..
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
QUOTE(autiger @ Sep 8 2005, 01:25 PM)
The other night a friend and I were at his place and decided to rent Madden (I'm sure some of you are gonna ignore me now, but it's alright ) . We got to the video store and found out that it was only available on PS2, so we had to swallow our pride and get it for my buddy's roommate's PS2...man I hate playstation...it's so slow and really the graphics are nowhere near as good as Xbox...
) . We got to the video store and found out that it was only available on PS2, so we had to swallow our pride and get it for my buddy's roommate's PS2...man I hate playstation...it's so slow and really the graphics are nowhere near as good as Xbox...I don't know about the 06 games, but for NCAA 2005 the PS2 version looks better and plays smoother.
Now I know why I got the xbox version for only $3
Most EA games play better on the PS2 because they are made for it first, then ported to the xbox.
Back on topic, yay the xbox 360 is a beast, but did we really need Cliffy B to tell us?
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 12:43:00 PM
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even ghost recon 3 seems to be going that way yhe first thing i will do with recon
is get rid of that futuristic fake helmit view or whatever
is get rid of that futuristic fake helmit view or whatever
i thought that was technology that the USA was really developing. i know its probably 10 years off but its still a bases of reality.
i can see the point of how some types of games arent for some people but no matter what your taste is its safe to say that the 360 has you covered in your faverate genre.
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 12:54:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 8 2005, 02:54 PM)
i can see the point of how some types of games arent for some people but no matter what your taste is its safe to say that the 360 has you covered in your faverate genre.
I don't see any Motorsports Sims, only arcade racers, I wouldnt consider it having me covered then
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 01:37:00 PM
QUOTE(deftonesmx17 @ Sep 8 2005, 03:05 PM)
I don't see any Motorsports Sims, only arcade racers, I wouldnt consider it having me covered then
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
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happy to see you like forza though, my brother owns it and other then the jaggies i think its a damn fine racing game.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
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He probably got something to work that wasnt doable in the past, and is ecstatic about it.
Hes passionate about the shit he makes/does, its obvious. Too bad more arent like him. On the other spectrum you have turkey muncher who doesnt move from his chair all day and slobbers all over dev kits and brags about Steam
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
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im sure it takes time to implement and convert resources between newer dev kits. maybe in the last week he has passed whatever hurdle was needed and just now hes getting to the bare metal of the system and its really starting to excite him of all the possibilities he sees now with the final kits in his hands.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Andy51 on September 08, 2005, 02:34:00 PM
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CliffyB!
Gears of War all the way bitches and eat some of my goddamn Sony Popcorn!
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
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wouldnt that sony turn us into a zombie?
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
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Post by: deftonesmx17 on September 08, 2005, 01:49:00 PM
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
happy to see you like forza though, my brother owns it and other then the jaggies i think its a damn fine racing game.
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 02:25:00 PM
He probably got something to work that wasnt doable in the past, and is ecstatic about it.
Hes passionate about the shit he makes/does, its obvious. Too bad more arent like him. On the other spectrum you have turkey muncher who doesnt move from his chair all day and slobbers all over dev kits and brags about Steam
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 02:33:00 PM
Post by: Andy51 on September 08, 2005, 02:34:00 PM
CliffyB!
Gears of War all the way bitches and eat some of my goddamn Sony Popcorn!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 08, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 02:55:00 PM
wouldnt that sony
turn us into a zombie?
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 03:41:00 PM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 8 2005, 05:33 PM)
Sorry I didn't post earlier def, I was at work. Anyways...
Btw I want to see this g4 video if anyone has a way please pm me.
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Post by: Andy51 on September 08, 2005, 06:58:00 PM
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Btw I want to see this g4 video if anyone has a way please pm me.Post by: Andy51 on September 08, 2005, 06:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Deftech @ Sep 8 2005, 11:06 PM)
lol Andy is trippin again
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 08:07:00 PM
QUOTE(brooksie48 @ Sep 8 2005, 09:38 PM)
I get horny for this game every time I hear, "The game is based on single player and co-op, deathmatch will just be an option on the side, and not full blown multi-player like other games. We know every one wants to kill there friends, and we will release more info at a later time"
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
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Post by: Deftech on September 08, 2005, 10:58:00 PM
QUOTE(miggidy @ Sep 9 2005, 12:21 AM)
Ok I do realize that I'm probably the only one who gives a shit about this so no roasting please
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: KAGE360 on September 09, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
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i have been wondering the same thing. if he did answer why i would hope its a pretty detailed reason why other then him just giving a vague reason about money or 360 being a beast.
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: Deftech on September 09, 2005, 09:09:00 AM
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Now I just need to get a hold of Itagaki and my life is complete anyone got Tomonobus #?
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Title: Cliffy B Comments On Final Hardware!
Post by: miggidy on September 09, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
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Post by: KAGE360 on September 09, 2005, 07:02:00 AM
Post by: Deftech on September 09, 2005, 09:09:00 AM
Now I just need to get a hold of Itagaki and my life is complete
anyone got Tomonobus #?
Post by: miggidy on September 09, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(KAGE360 @ Sep 9 2005, 03:13 PM)
i have been wondering the same thing. if he did answer why i would hope its a pretty detailed reason why other then him just giving a vague reason about money or 360 being a beast.