Post by: richie579 on February 27, 2006, 05:19:00 PM
Edit: along with a theme and gamer pics, so says Major Nelson.
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Post by: penguin318 on February 27, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
edit* cannot wait for this game now, march 7 for anyone who did not know
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Post by: DaShiZNiT on February 27, 2006, 06:38:00 PM
Post by: dgrams2003 on February 27, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
I dont know if I will want to buy it since I have it on XBox tho....
Looks like the best addition will be online play (which I LUV!)
I wonder if they did away with the 'reverse flying camera' at the crash
junction points? When you have a long crash junction, and you have to go
back to the start, who really cares what the track looks like EVERY time you have
to go back to the start? Or at least make it so that you can hit a button to skip
the playback. That was my only gripe about REVENGE on Xbox. Otherwise
I love it.
Post by: MadEx on February 27, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
And knowing EA it'll be full of ads and cost me $60... NO THANKS!
Post by: webslinginwr22 on February 27, 2006, 10:13:00 PM
think about it. No advertising = no $$$. No $$$ = no new good games. no new good games = new crappy games. and new crappy games = you people b!tching about how there are no good games out for the 360.anyways, I have to go check out that trailer. although i dont think i'll buy it since i have it on xbox. but we'll have to wait and see.
Post by: MadEx on February 27, 2006, 11:09:00 PM
But I'm the idiot...
Post by: esc1 on February 28, 2006, 12:07:00 AM
Post by: metaldevil on February 28, 2006, 05:07:00 AM
QUOTE(webslinginwr22 @ Feb 28 2006, 12:13 AM) 
No advertising = no $$$. No $$$ = no new good games. no new good games = new crappy games. and new crappy games = you people b!tching about how there are no good games out for the 360.
That's a terrible argument because it can be so easily disproved: Jade Empire and Fable have no in-game ads. Barring Fable's shortness, both games are excellent.They're supposed to help lessen the financial burden, but some companies don't put forth the effort into making games great even with the aid of in-game ads.
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Post by: twistedsymphony on February 28, 2006, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(metaldevil @ Feb 28 2006, 06:38 AM) 
That's a terrible argument because it can be so easily disproved: Jade Empire and Fable have no in-game ads. Barring Fable's shortness, both games are excellent.
They're supposed to help lessen the financial burden, but some companies don't put forth the effort into making games great even with the aid of in-game ads.
exactly... if Bethesda can make Oblivion with no Ads and Infinity Ward can make COD2 with no adds then certainly EA (the largest independent game company) can manage to make a game without needing to further line their pockets with ad money.
We don't even know if the game will have ads in it because it's not out yet.
I'll probably be picking it up, I love the burnout series and I held off buying the Xbox 1 version waiting for this one. If the only difference is 720p, that's good enough for me (and well worth the extra $10).
Post by: LowProfileWurm on February 28, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
And in regards to ingame ads... get used to them. A study was done that found in-game ads are 3 times more likely to be remembered than in-movie product placement. I think it's just starting...
Besides, it's a racing game... who cares about ads? You're either whipping by the signs at 60fps or they are on the cars, in which case noone bitches about Nascar and F1 sponsors.
Post by: dgrams2003 on February 28, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
I'm tired of talking about advertising in games. Get over it.
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Post by: Lizard King on February 28, 2006, 06:00:00 PM
There will be ads in B:R 360. These ads will be in the form of cars paint jobs, Billboards and other scenery. Gibson and Carl's Jr. (can't remember any others, and with the hours I've played, that means it must not have been good product placement) were in B:R and I expect we will see them in this version as well. And you know whaty? I don't mind them. I love the Carl's JR. truck in the game. We don't have Carl's Jr. here, but when I went of town curiosity got the best of me (that's good product placement).
When games start having actual commercials in them...that's when I revolt. My wife hates going to the movies anymore - If a Pepsi commercial comes on in the previews, we are out of the theater. I PAID for the movie, and hell, I probably paid AS MUCH for my Pepsi. I may get my money back for the movie, but unfortunately not the drink.
Here's my theory: If ticket price isn't enough to subsidise the movie, then the movie sucks.
Guess what? It rings pretty true.
Post by: CattyKid on February 28, 2006, 07:30:00 PM
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Feb 28 2006, 07:31 PM)
Ads don't make or break a game for me, unless they are just plain obnoxious.
There will be ads in B:R 360. These ads will be in the form of cars paint jobs, Billboards and other scenery. Gibson and Carl's Jr. (can't remember any others, and with the hours I've played, that means it must not have been good product placement) were in B:R and I expect we will see them in this version as well. And you know whaty? I don't mind them. I love the Carl's JR. truck in the game. We don't have Carl's Jr. here, but when I went of town curiosity got the best of me (that's good product placement).
When games start having actual commercials in them...that's when I revolt. My wife hates going to the movies anymore - If a Pepsi commercial comes on in the previews, we are out of the theater. I PAID for the movie, and hell, I probably paid AS MUCH for my Pepsi. I may get my money back for the movie, but unfortunately not the drink.
Here's my theory: If ticket price isn't enough to subsidise the movie, then the movie sucks.
Guess what? It rings pretty true.
You, sir, seserve a cookie, pie, or some sweet-meats. I couldn't agree more. I didn't mind the advertising in Burnout 3. It wasn't intrusive at all, and actually ADDED to the realism of the game (I'm talking about the billboards). Some games go better with advertsing, like when they are set in realistic environments. This way developers get money and WE get more realism. As long as they don't intrude upon, impede, or cheese-up my gameplay then bring them on.
As for the trailer, I wasn't too impressed. The graphics didn't look too much better, and I HATE how you can just slam into a car in front of you and not crash. It takes a lot of the skill out of the game. I think 3 wash much better than Revenge (at least the Revenge demo I played). Sure the maps aren't as linear, but how can you crash into a Civilian car and just push it ahead? Shouldn't you have to DODGE them?
/rant
Post by: dgrams2003 on March 01, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
QUOTE(Lizard King @ Mar 1 2006, 01:31 AM)
If a Pepsi commercial comes on in the previews, we are out of the theater.
Come on. Really? A good percentage of the theatres all across the country show ads now.
You cant get away from them. You are telling us that if you really are pumped for a movie, and
they show a Pepsi ad, that you leave the movie? Hard to really believe, but if you do.. good for you.
Post by: LowProfileWurm on March 01, 2006, 09:36:00 AM
Post by: davinator456 on March 01, 2006, 10:02:00 AM
Post by: Lizard King on March 01, 2006, 07:07:00 PM
QUOTE(dgrams2003 @ Mar 1 2006, 10:00 AM)
Come on. Really? A good percentage of the theatres all across the country show ads now.
You cant get away from them. You are telling us that if you really are pumped for a movie, and
they show a Pepsi ad, that you leave the movie? Hard to really believe, but if you do.. good for you.
Yup. It's only happened twice, I can't even remember what movies, but it is a matter of principle. Play the commercial before the lights dim and the doors close, have a message at the ticket counter saying this movie shows a commercial, etc. NOPE they trap you in darkness, with the fear that if you leave or arrive late you will miss the first few minutes of the movie. Honestly, If something Im excited for has a commercial, Id have a hard time leaving - but it's NEVER happened, it's only the shitty ones that need the ads. But really, the theaters will give you your money back, but you must tell them why.
I've returned DVDs that do not allow you to FF through previews - and I'm just about to start with the "You wouldn't steal a car...." Piracy bullshit. I already bought the damn DVD, and you're preaching to me about "piracy = stealing". ( Piracy is not stealing, piracy is copyright infringement, losses to the seller are inconsequential and immeasureable). But again....it's all how it's presented.
Back to the subject at hand - I sincerly hope this doesn't have slowdowns; the trailer made me a bit anxious. If this has framerate issues, I am going to be VERY upset. I care about gameplay and smooth framerates, what's with all the games with framerate issues? This is suppossed to be next gen. I hope this is not a sign of things to come.
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Post by: hamwbone on March 01, 2006, 07:57:00 PM
Post by: metaldevil on March 02, 2006, 05:12:00 AM
