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Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: henix on August 08, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
Is it possible to take out the processors (3 powerpc? 3.2ghz each) and in someway use them as processors on the computer. Maybe its stupid, but that would be a triple core pc  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Reaper527 on August 08, 2006, 04:22:00 PM
i'm not going to go into details as to why (other then the fact that there is no motherboard that would support it), but no. its not possible.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: henix on August 08, 2006, 04:26:00 PM
can u use 2 of the processors ? im really annoying right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif) ??
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: nekkron99 on August 08, 2006, 04:21:00 PM
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Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: henix on August 08, 2006, 04:34:00 PM
Well this is just thoughts, if u take out the motherboard with the triple core, put in some normal ram and a video card would that work? probably not because motherboard firmware isnt supporting that right? and you can't hack it because its encrypted? But if you somehow could hack the firmware in the motherboard and replace it with some pc-based motheboard firmware you would have a kickass PC.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Runningfrenzy on August 08, 2006, 04:28:00 PM
I'll just repost this to explain the second question...
QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Aug 8 2006, 05:22 PM) View Post

i'm not going to go into details as to why (other then the fact that there is no motherboard that would support it), but no. its not possible.

Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: grim_d on August 08, 2006, 04:37:00 PM
QUOTE(henix @ Aug 8 2006, 11:26 PM) View Post

can u use 2 of the processors ? im really annoying right tongue.gif ??


you do realise it's a triple CORE processor, not 3 seperate processors.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: snow rider221 on August 08, 2006, 06:03:00 PM
this thread made me lol    tongue.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Calibos on August 08, 2006, 07:00:00 PM
Hello Mr Brick.....Meet Mr. Wall

This post has been edited by Calibos: Aug 9 2006, 02:02 AM
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: pbkill on August 08, 2006, 08:24:00 PM
If you are a tech god yes. But to take them out and put them on a regular mobo you would have to make some sort of an adaptor socket.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: henmill on August 08, 2006, 08:57:00 PM
sorry dude.  never gonna happen ever ever ever.

buy an ultra high-end amd dual core processor, throw in a gig here a gig there of ram, toss around a few nvidia 7900-whatevers, (not to mention a fancy shmancy mobo) and you'll have yourself a nifty pc that'll out hustle a 360 any day.




wonder if anyone's put this in the comedy forum yet.......
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: IAmCanadian on August 08, 2006, 10:03:00 PM
the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: epsilon72 on August 08, 2006, 10:07:00 PM
This thread is hilarius (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)

Maybe I can figure out a way to solder my 7800gtx to my 360 mobo and get 1080p resolution from the increased power (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)


No offense intended, I was just highly amused by the concept.

Nice avatar IAmCanadian. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by epsilon72: Aug 9 2006, 05:12 AM
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: IAmCanadian on August 08, 2006, 10:08:00 PM
You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: sicknasty413 on August 08, 2006, 11:51:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 12:08 AM) View Post

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.

Yeah i 2nd that..

But oh man, i giggled.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: sinister slipknot on August 09, 2006, 02:46:00 AM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 04:08 AM) View Post

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.


Exactly, and it's not one of the most stupidest things said here on XS either.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Gamer_from_2080 on August 09, 2006, 06:42:00 AM
Sadly no. Im sorry but I thought your concept was funny. I wonder if I can take the copper trails from the mobo and eat them as speghetti. You know with a lil marinara. Just kidding dude. I couldnt resist. happy.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: nekkron99 on August 09, 2006, 06:57:00 AM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 8 2006, 09:08 PM) View Post

You guys need to stop making fun of him.

Not everyone on earth is a computer expert and knows how everything works.

Yeah, but come on...the guy even knew he was being annoying, which means he knew that he was asking a recockulous question.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: mattyv on August 24, 2006, 11:58:00 AM
henix,
 I'm not going to grill you on the post (looks like you had enough) but, if you do try this, I got dibs on your DVD drive. biggrin.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: jabroniekilla on August 24, 2006, 01:01:00 PM
I have to add my dose of comedy:
Maybe the guys from Pimp My Ride could make it work.  Call Xzibit.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: nekkron99 on August 24, 2006, 01:16:00 PM
QUOTE(jabroniekilla @ Aug 24 2006, 12:08 PM) View Post

I have to add my dose of comedy:
Maybe the guys from Pimp My Ride could make it work.  Call Xzibit.
What?  Was that the infant sized dosage?  Call Chappelle.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: mavsfan on August 24, 2006, 02:18:00 PM
Looking at the thread name at first I thought someone may have acctually tried that. Now it just makes me laugh. laugh.gif Doesnt hurt to ask though smile.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: bigjimmy on August 25, 2006, 06:29:00 PM
me too. Although I did know that little fact on how they actually attach the cpu to the mobo. Quite clever.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Viva La Sam on August 25, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
guys of course this is funny but calm down. i know at this point in time it is impossible but think about the future. i know this is an XBOX forum but there is a similar instance to the PSP (no im not the Sony fanboy from gamespot, but i know him). people claimed downgrading a 2.0 was impossible until a hack came out. then they said that there is no way in hell 2.5/2.6--1.50 is possible but look now. so what seems impossible now, might be possible in a few years.

but im just gonna sit back like this ---> pop.gif  and watch how this plays out. and please dont kill me for the Sony comment. i own 3 XBOXs, a 360, and a dusty old PS2 for a few games. i love my XBOXs more than anything.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: scbandit4 on September 10, 2006, 07:53:00 AM
OMG NO! MY IQ DROPPED 3 POINTS!
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: pbkill on September 10, 2006, 11:59:00 AM
Taking the cores out is the wrong direction. Looking for a way to hack the 360 and run linux/Power PC windows would be the way to go.

Sooner or later it will happen.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: xXP-UnitXx on September 10, 2006, 12:47:00 PM
QUOTE(nekkron99 @ Aug 24 2006, 12:23 PM) View Post

What?  Was that the infant sized dosage?  Call Chappelle.


IM RIIIICH BIOOOTCHH! jester.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: clerks37 on September 10, 2006, 02:34:00 PM
QUOTE(Calibos @ Aug 9 2006, 02:00 AM) View Post

Hello Mr Brick.....Meet Mr. Wall



 laugh.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: bucko on September 11, 2006, 06:31:00 AM
QUOTE

and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.


Do they put a pizza in the oven at the same time as well?  jester.gif

Don't worry even I went through a funny time once asking silly questions. We all do it...
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: TheSpecialist on September 11, 2006, 03:25:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 06:03 AM) *

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


Well, it's possible (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

(IMG:http://www.freepler.de/userdaten/38928917/bilder/xbox360/cpu222.jpg)
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: DrMadVibes on October 12, 2006, 09:01:00 AM
Can I remove my XBOX 360 CPU and put it in my Commodore 64 so I can run my games faster? .. hahah..

Closed way making your XBOX run like a pc is *lux OS project.. see other posts.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Filtrated on October 28, 2006, 01:10:00 PM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 AM) View Post

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


uhh.gif

Put it back in an oven to melt the solder off?
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Da Mafia on October 28, 2006, 05:14:00 PM
I would of thought that putting it in an oven hot enough to melt the solder would damage the components.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: OpticNurv on October 28, 2006, 06:07:00 PM
QUOTE(Da Mafia @ Oct 28 2006, 04:14 PM) View Post

I would of thought that putting it in an oven hot enough to melt the solder would damage the components.


well, all options considered you could try a hot air gun, but of course that could get very complicated, very quickly
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: karnak on November 01, 2006, 01:55:00 PM
Dude it aint gonna happen.  You would have to practically build a mobo that would support the CPU socket AND there is no way you would get it to run considering the GPU is a chip and there are no PCI, AGP, or PCI-E sockets so no way of getting a graphics card..  Unless you can build a Xenos compatible motherboard with custom firmware that would support a PCI-E 3D card..  BTW this is beyond pratically everyone unless you are a computer hardware engineer or a VERY VERY good programmer....  

Just forget about it and play some games biggrin.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Aicd on November 24, 2006, 12:52:00 AM
i question the l33t skillz of some of the people roasting this guy.  lots of people jumping on the bandwagon that think they are engineers after putting their uber sweet gaming machine together.







Aicd
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: DV8ORMODS on December 13, 2006, 10:03:00 AM
well if there were anyone out there who could do this it would be the design team of the xbox 360,
and seeing that they have all the tools necessary to make an xbox it very unlikely they would even do it.
this thread goes to show how mans ideas out weigh ther technical abilities
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: X-hacker on December 17, 2006, 07:15:00 AM
Just remember, everyone's allowed to have 'A Blonde Day' every so often (or in some cases, Ginger)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: sentinel0 on December 18, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
How is this thread still alive,  I contribute it to very lazy mods.  Anyway this will never work even if you did have a motherboard for it this PPC processor for the simple fact that the processor it's self it hard coded to work with components and GPU found only on the 360 motherboard not to mention the architectural reasons that I care not to divulge in.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: jcdenton2003 on December 18, 2006, 07:58:00 PM
Jesus dude
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Millenia1x on December 31, 2006, 02:33:00 AM
what a waste of time
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Methadon on February 06, 2007, 11:15:00 AM
QUOTE(IAmCanadian @ Aug 9 2006, 05:03 AM) View Post

the 360's cpu is BGA (ball grid array) meaning there are little balls of solder attatched to the cpu during manufacturing via sticky soldering paste, and then placed onto the mobo, and put into an oven for a certain time allowing the solder to melt and basically solder the cpu to the mobo.

making removal very very hard.


 Actually, removal is pretty easy if you have the right tools. Goto your local electronics shop; There's plenty of ways to de-solder chips by hand, as well as easily re-solder them.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Methadon on February 06, 2007, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(sentinel0 @ Dec 19 2006, 02:35 AM) View Post

How is this thread still alive,  I contribute it to very lazy mods.  Anyway this will never work even if you did have a motherboard for it this PPC processor for the simple fact that the processor it's self it hard coded to work with components and GPU found only on the 360 motherboard not to mention the architectural reasons that I care not to divulge in.


 I disagree. While the components it comes with may be the only ones it uses out of the box, we already know it has potential with the USB ports. We can also swap DVD drives simply by making sure the key is in there. We can stick with the CPU/GPU. RAM upgrade might be hard, but then again, it could be as simple as desoldering the RAM chips on the board, and replacing them.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: sentinel0 on February 06, 2007, 05:14:00 PM
Methadon your an idiot I'm sorry did you not understand anything I wrote the cpu is a special cpu built just for the 360 it is a modified version of the PPC processor it requires special encrypted boot rom to even start up the cpu much less just make it work on another motherboard "if" you could find a 899 pin BGA mobo which i don't think exist wait the 360 mobo.  Going at the fact you pull a board out of your ass and you hacked the 2048bit SHA-1 key and wrote a boot loader to start the cpu's you would have to be phenomenal at porting a PPC flavor of linux.  The GPU would have limited access because you would need special drivers to make it work.  Yeah the ddr ram is pretty standard I suppose if you felt like it you could solder it to a stick but why ddr is pretty cheap stuff.  So good luck with this try doing some reading before posting your dumb ass comments.  And about the USB no shit USB is USB it's called a standard and for it to work you go by it.  The thing about the drives it does work in a pc woopdy do this thread is about the CPU/GPU ever working in a PC.  Please don't post again until you learn what the hell your talking about.  Thank you.  Have a nice day.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Millenia1x on February 08, 2007, 07:00:00 PM
this thread is still alive
removing a BGA type cpu will almost always do considerable damage to the chip and the board UNLESS you are a true expert at de-soldering circuits AND requires some VERY expensive machines to do even that for someone who might be an expert but not sure they can do it
and to make things harder I'm pretty sure its a FBGA type which makes even that near impossible
i guess you have an 899 pin BGA motherboard in your dreamland also

i guess i can take 360 cpu and put in in my classic pong game

WTF

can somebody get a mod on this thread

don't bother asking about the ps3 cpu either

Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: _zlinky on March 01, 2007, 06:55:00 PM
Can we just let this old and pointless thread die already?
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: speedygonzolas3 on March 15, 2007, 08:17:00 PM
if you remove the cpu and gpu chips from the 360s mobo the coolest thing you could probably do is make some sweet keychains tongue.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: Methadon on March 27, 2007, 01:08:00 PM
QUOTE(sentinel0 @ Feb 7 2007, 01:21 AM) View Post

Methadon your an idiot I'm sorry did you not understand anything I wrote the cpu is a special cpu built just for the 360 it is a modified version of the PPC processor it requires special encrypted boot rom to even start up the cpu much less just make it work on another motherboard "if" you could find a 899 pin BGA mobo which i don't think exist wait the 360 mobo.  Going at the fact you pull a board out of your ass and you hacked the 2048bit SHA-1 key and wrote a boot loader to start the cpu's you would have to be phenomenal at porting a PPC flavor of linux.  The GPU would have limited access because you would need special drivers to make it work.  Yeah the ddr ram is pretty standard I suppose if you felt like it you could solder it to a stick but why ddr is pretty cheap stuff.  So good luck with this try doing some reading before posting your dumb ass comments.  And about the USB no shit USB is USB it's called a standard and for it to work you go by it.  The thing about the drives it does work in a pc woopdy do this thread is about the CPU/GPU ever working in a PC.  Please don't post again until you learn what the hell your talking about.  Thank you.  Have a nice day.


 Woah, I misread the original post. I know it was a while back, but after re-reading my post, I think I was under the impression this was about RAM upgrading. If I wasn't responding to that, then please excuse this as an exceptionally rare "blonde manifestation" tongue.gif
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: SuRgEx360 on March 28, 2007, 04:42:00 AM
realy? ya dont say so.

Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: ScrewinGates on March 31, 2007, 10:21:00 PM
creatureofthedark....take your pc loving flaming else where..if the 360 were more like a pc it would be modded by now,console modding is for the xtreme mfers.
Title: Use The 360 Processors On A Pc
Post by: StrictPuppet on April 01, 2007, 07:39:00 PM
This disturbs me that this thread has went on for this long.

RIP