QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 14 2003, 01:26 AM) |
Or those who have an X-key device would be one step closer to getting EvoX to boot if none of their CD-RWs and CD-Rs will boot in their Thomson. ::shrug:: |
My thompson will read any freakin thing I throw at it, Im serious, I ran out of cdrws so I was like what the hell, waste one cdr no big deal, burned evox on it to format an hdd, booted up with a blank hdd in. I was like HOLY BEEp bEEP. I mean, I just swap that drive into all the xboxs I mod now so I can cheaply boot anything, its pretty nice.
Now onto the bios thing:
I really like that Idea of booting with a crapped eeprom, Im in a situation where that would be really nice right now.
how bout taking the pros of all the bios out there and putting them into one bios. And taking all the cons of the new bios, and fixing them. And all of the good features preople on this forums have made up too!!!
If you told me how to make a bios, i would start one right now. if you need a programing language, you might have to wait awhile..........
IN YOUR OPINION, WHAT BIOS DO YOU THINK IS BEST???? OPTIONAL: LIST 3 PROS AND 2 CONS OF THE BIOS YOU THINK IS BEST!
m7
Easyest color mod/easy flubber mod, Works with xbtool easy, isnt messed up a lot like the xecuter ones (remberes the msxboxdash and xboxdash screw up)
No intigrated IGR (didnt notice one) Still MS at the bottom of the loading scree.
oh.... so this is where i put the post into a random place..... the what is the best bios thing..... just ignore it......
This has been suggested before, but so far hasn't been implemented:
I would love to see an In Game Shutdown combo implemented. Even better would be if NghtShd could implement this as a patch for XBTool and/or EvoTool.
I don't know who to turn to, but I took it like NghtShd is the one to talk about xbtool (great tool indeed). He would be the one who can answer this.
If you can do anything of this it would be highly appreciated by many, I'm shure
Third
I haven't tried the embedded FTP, but after what I've been reading here it doesn't work so good. Why is it that it can't be run "in the background", eg. when playing a game? I've tried searching for this with no success
Fourth
For those who have installed additional RAM (the few, but brave), wouldn't it be possible to load any TSR above the standard 64MB, and lock the first 64MB only for games. If it was possible then you could load up a mp3-player above the 64MB limit and then play a game, wich at most uses 64MB.
Possibly (probably, I haven't looked into RAM-upgrades that much) a special BIOS for that
I'd appreciate any response to this
//Risca
Howabout a bois this a eject load button combo, and integrated debug bios?
Said it many pages before but I'll say it again. I want a tool for my pc similar to xbtool but that can edit an original xbox bios to turn it into a modded bios. IE patch the bytes for unsigned code, media check, unlocked HD, etc.
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Wake-on-LAN From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
Wake-on-LAN is a PC computer network adapter which allows IT network managers to send a packet and power on dormant client machines. It is an Intel Wired for Management System product. It was developed as part of the IBM and Intel Advanced Manageability Alliance.
Wake-On-Lan is triggered by a so called "MagicPaket" (trademark of Advanced Micro Devices), which is an IP-packages with a defined content. These packages can be build and send with several tools also available as freeware.
WOR (Wake-on-Ring) or WOM (Wake-on-Modem)are remote pc wake up from a DialUp Modem .
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could this be implemented on the XBOX via bios?
so we could switch the xbox on from anywhere on the same LAN...
if the xbox hardware supports it then it would still need to be supported via bios.
done by giving the ethernet card on the pc some power +3v (i think) when it is off to allow it to watch for a specific packet. i have it setup on one of my PCs. it becomes active after the pc has past 1 POST screen. i.e. can't unplug then replug power from wall and then WOL. the packet is generated using the target PCs ethernet address (Google Search for WOLCMD.exe) and the packet is sent to the LAN broadcast address, the router then relays it to all connected devices on that subnet. if the target successfully receives a correctly formed packet it powers on.
any input/discusion u have would be great
TIA
QUOTE (FlashKick @ Sep 3 2004, 10:12 PM) |
...why? |
It would add some legitmacy in some countries. You patch your own bios you took from your own xbox machine.
Very easy for us raincoat fans.
I would love to see a software switching method for a second harddrive replacing the DVD drive.
have seen the xtender solution for putting in more than one ide drive into an xbox.
basically it turns off the power to a disk and turns on another.
but the problem is that you cant access more than one drive at a time.
what about using a solution like in the amiga computers.
the a1200 and a600 only had one ide port so using a logic circut and some diodes allowed you to gain access to up to four drives.
by making a custom driver for the ide interface which selected the different drives using software commands that were seamless to the system.
i know nothing about the xbox hardware and if it is capable of doing but the circuit is really simple.
would this be just a bios update to get this to work.
i beleve there is source code and diagrams on aminet for this.
could this be a possibility on the xbox?
I agree that embedded FTP would be one of the best things.
Next thing I saw mentioned that seems like a very good idea, but I think my idea is slightly different. A bootloader, like linux uses lilo/grub, to either boot dashboards, etc., or be able to load a full linux drive. So I guess not so much a bootloader, just a function that would allow it to boot either this or that. The reason for this would be for people that want to use multiple drives, and dont want to wire a relay, just flip the drive select switch and bam, instant linux, or xbmc, whatever you want. I think for the future of the scene having a bios that would dominate instead of having this and that, we need to have a specific format if development is to continue more rapidly, and this would be a start in that direction.
The other thing would be to have support for other file structures such as NTFS.
Alright, time to prepare for the flames. I have been reading up on installing Windows on the Xbox, there are several issues with this. Before I go into this I will now say I am not really a big fan of the idea, but I am working on a multi-drive project now focusing on simplicity, and well, windows is a lot simpler than linux so. I know 1 is ram and processor power, Friendtech has resolved these issues for us with their upgrades. We know also that Windows on the Xbox is possible through a few methods, all of which require it to run within linux which is causing a lot of the slowdown people are complaining about. I have been unable to confirm the validity of this, but I have also read several reports of problems with Windows running because of the checks that are run on bootup, it fails, so will not boot. I realize that there are different kernals the Xbox uses, but it would seem there should be ways around this with everything else the scene has made happen for the Xbox. I believe if the bios were hacked appropriately to start bootup like normal, then go on to do whatever PC bioses do that allow you to use either windows or linux. Yea, hope that makes sense, flame if you will.
@gioxtreme, go read the tuts before asking ?'s, or better yet ask them in your proper forum, the one at the top that says newbies, or even better still learn how to use that button that says SEARCH.
What about implementing something into the bios so that when your temperature goes above the "normal" operating range, the fan will speed up. I know you can change your fan speed, but you should be able to set this up in the bios so that when playing games and whatnot, your fan will speed up when the temperature gets too high, or if you leave your box on for long periods of time, unmonitored, your fan will always make sure the box is operating at normal temperatures, and you will not have to keep an eye on it or constantly hear the fan when it is set up to always run faster. I know the fan speed can be controlled by the bios already because you can set the speed with xbtool, but it should be able to look at the temperatures and adjust accordingly.
Screenshots? X3 has it, could IND-BIOS implent this?
QUOTE (Dolfhin @ Sep 26 2004, 08:57 PM) |
Screenshots? X3 has it, could IND-BIOS implent this? |
x3 only supports screenshots in its config menu, no ?
how about lcd features in the bios,like display ms time and date or display while playing a game or watching a dvd.also display .xbe name of game or apps ur using maybe even show the temputures while playing.not really useful features but i would like to see more apps ur bios taking advantage of the lcd since all the recent modchips use lcd.
button binding so i could bind the xbox controller to my keyboard and mouse then i could use it in games
fps display
save state
console just push ~ to bring it down and you can turn on or off any bios settings
xlink support so you dont need a pc
there is no network code in the bios.
QUOTE (heinrich @ Oct 22 2004, 10:50 PM) |
there is no network code in the bios. |
didn't an old xecuter bios (4980? maybe) implement a built in ftp server? I know that it was probably a proof of concept but with size of some bios banks on the newer chips >2 megs couldn't it be possible?
that bios had no network (or gamepad) code either - it launched on .xbe on every boot.
QUOTE (captainjon @ Oct 27 2004, 01:17 PM) |
I'd really like a Samba server implemented so I can use my Xbox HDD as a network drive. |
I only know of one way so far to do that: Xenium chip with OS 2 or better.
Well, I do really like to see, especially for softhacks BFM, a way to prevent certain xbe to be executed, or better a confirmation to execute.
You know you launch a game and unluckily you push live in the menu,---> update.xbe is executed and you find yourself with a new dash that fries your softhack. so you have to go again to mechwarrior ...
Wouldn't be nice to have a xbe blacklist? like no update.xbe or xodash.xbe or wathever...
peace
mmm, how about a cheating system,
being able to search the ram for certain memory values/conditions, like
how old gamewizard used to work, or, if thats not possible, debug-bios like
commands:
- dump complete memory
- dump specific memory address (32bits)
- write to specific memory address (32bits)
- freeze specific memory address to set value
These would allow creating a decentish cheat program over the lan...
Ofcourse its best if a cheating system could be added to the bios..
P.S. The configuration file should stored on a memory card, that way ms cant just enable file i/o themselves and update the dash w/o the mem. card containing the bios config file
Two words: "USB Support"
man theres so many games that does not allow you to change the controlls it would be great if you could rebind them or bind them to your keyboard and mouse
Game state pause so you can jump back to the dash board and resume the game exactly where you were. or multi tasking?
QUOTE (ZASADAR @ Oct 18 2004, 08:44 PM) |
button binding so i could bind the xbox controller to my keyboard and mouse then i could use it in games
fps display
save state
console just push ~ to bring it down and you can turn on or off any bios settings
xlink support so you dont need a pc |
YES this man is a genius.
i so badly would want usb keyboard n mouse support in say... halo 1 and 2
I THINK CD BURNING SUPPORT WOULD BE DOPE "BOOT THE XBOX WITH A CD BURNER INSTEAD OF THE XBOXES DVD DRIVE AND HAVE IT CAPABLE OF BURNING CD-DA CDS FROM THE SOUNDTRACK. SHIT THATD PROLLY BE THE BEST
QUOTE (INSB_GLOCK @ Nov 23 2004, 05:37 AM) |
I THINK CD BURNING SUPPORT WOULD BE DOPE "BOOT THE XBOX WITH A CD BURNER INSTEAD OF THE XBOXES DVD DRIVE AND HAVE IT CAPABLE OF BURNING CD-DA CDS FROM THE SOUNDTRACK. SHIT THATD PROLLY BE THE BEST |
You can already do that with xbox-linux. And I believe it would only require an xbox app - not any bios mod.
start a new thread, maybe in the xbox linux forum, dont hijack this one.
QUOTE (heinrich @ Nov 23 2004, 06:33 PM) |
start a new thread, maybe in the xbox linux forum, dont hijack this one. |
OFF-TOPIC I KNOW!
You always sound so wise... I love it! LOL
I won't hijack this thread!
can u also tell them to stop kissing ur ass?
anyways yeah the usb support is needed/wanted/craved by everyone....
use a bios tool to change what dash it boots too
well what bios are u using? - it is possible.
I dont have time to read all 20+ pages right now but my request would have to be usb storage support. Example: i want to plug my mp3 player into the usb drive and be able to copy mp3's and stuff to it using XBMC or BoXplorer. my mp3 player has a fat filesystem.
how about a bios that lets you unlock ANY hdd! so if you just fucked up modding your xbox you can still use the hdd.
and mabey edit your eeprom
How about drive mapping? For people with wireless (or have a really long crossover cable).
This way we can just use file and print sharing on our PC. Have the ability to have the XBOX "mount" a shared directory on our PC as a local drive. (like a super-big memory card).
That would totally eliminate needing to buy a new HD for the XBOX. Just keep the original drive and mount the 250gb drive(s) in your PC. This way people don't get banned from xbox live. Hard drive size and free space on the XBOX would no longer be an issue either.
For people complaining about the speed (max of about 8mbps over crossover, 10mbps over 802.11g) it wouldn' t be much slower than a CD rom.......
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Jul 22 2003, 04:44 PM) |
As hacks will become a bit easier to implement, I think it's time we here people's suggestions for new BIOS hacks.
The idea I had is one that eliminates the clock check, or presets it if it's invalid.
I'd also like a BIOS that forces a boot to DVD no matter what (X2 BIOSes seem to have problem with this) - especially if there are problems with the HD
Thirdly, a BIOS shouldn't care if the EEPROM is hosed. The Debug BIOS boots fine with hosed EEPROMs, it's time we had a mod BIOS that did the same.
All three of these ideas are to minimize the many problems modders face using the current batch of 256k BIOSes. Now that code exists to implement patches and test more goodies, perhaps we'll see new BIOS hacking groups emerge on the Xbox Scene. |
HOW I CAN TAKE SNAPSHOTS OF XBOX 1.6?
HAVE A DEBUGED FOR XBOX 1.6 ?
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How about drive mapping? For people with wireless (or have a really long crossover cable). |
Drive Mapping would be a dash thing, and wireless is too slow/unreliable to stream games over, it would lag like hell on your box, and would probably be too much of a pain in the ass to implement.
pc dvd-rom support? so any dvd-rom will work
pc-dvdrom support is software enabled in xbmc it works fine...autoplays dvds and everything...not a bios feature...i hope that it is in the next unleashx
how about one super bios that deals with all these peoples requests!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok how about mp3/wma support so you can always play your xbox ripped music in any game or app
How about a BIOS that unlocks the DVD Rom drive in order to play movies without the dongle. Or how about a MOD Chip for that??
KDragon if your gunna steal someones Icon steal someone elses.
i am the only one i ahve ever seen with this so go get your own!
anyways has anyone ever looked into implementing a VNC client ????
NEWS and some help would be appreciated: Me and a buddy have been contemplating this idea for a LONG frickin time... finally, we feel motivated enough to do somethign about it. As some of you have mentioned I've noticed, this would be game streaming.
You COULD patch every single xbe that came along, but that'd be entirely too difficult... so the easiest way would be to mount an smb share or possibly even something off a webserver to be loaded as a local drive (drive g???)
This would allow games to be stored on a network. Obviously. It would also allow them to be launched since the network support would be embedded in the bios. The only thing that should really be affected is the longer loading times. But the advantages would overcome that... by far.
Anybody have any suggestions/ideas? We're just beginning to try it.
as long as we are still depending on the original MS bios, i'm sure we'll always be limited to an extent. i know this is an insane consept but i still say a new from scratch bios would be the best way to go.
I would kill for a bios with a universal flicker filter & soften setting. I hate the blurry look of most xbox games.
Sorry people... but
*Bump*
dyinman
you must not be all there but bumping a sticky that 1 goes down in my books as 1 of the funniest noob stuff ups.
QUOTE(VooD @ Feb 26 2005, 11:36 PM)
I would kill for a bios with a universal flicker filter & soften setting. I hate the blurry look of most xbox games.
Hi
what's about built in xlink kai in the bios?
I mean only the kernel no gui etc.
Than it would be very simple to connect to xlink kai (no PC, etc. required).
Xbox Live! should allways be disabled using a modified bios...
Is that possible???
ralf007
Would it be possible to add "clear cache spaces on boot" to a bios?
I finally got 480p bios via ind-5003, you can get it from my site http://www.angelfire.../zine2/wgarth16
then type in
480pBios.zip
to download it, its a 256k bios, which boots evoxdash.xbe
please check it out if you have the X2VGA, which only supprts progressive scan!
it is a ind-5003 patched with cfg file already.
I wounder if it would be possible to BOOT your xbox with a Key combo. xbox is always stand by as long as its plugged in....
that'd be nice, saying that i have a wireless controller...
DUAL HDD HACK!!!!! (one HD for boot and storage [or just boot], other for storage)
Have your own Text (the MS text and the xbox text).
Xbox Live Blocking.
Have something to replace the flubber.
Has it's own page if no modded dash is present.
Built in ftp server.
I would very much like to see a bios that can take screenshots with some button combo(preferrably user defined)
A 1.6/b bios that lets eeproms be embedded....
QUOTE(JRSiebz @ Feb 1 2004, 09:42 PM)
real time xbox saves would be large
Well, it's 64Mb worth of RAM dump to start with, and then the possibility of a Gb or so more from X, Y, and Z drives.....
Updated list:
Clear Caches on boot.
Custom Flubber
Custom Xbox Text
Custom MS Text
IGR
XBLive Blocking
Dual HDD Hack
What would be cool is if someone replaced the whole boot animation with the Xbox 360 boot animation. Now that would kick ass!
i like the multiple hard drive idea. also, i would like to see a bios that bypasses the flubber animation and the x screen completely, and replace it with a short video playing off of the hard drive, kind of like the .x files from the ind-bios.cfg. you could see any video you want when you power on your xbox!
Definitely the ability to run two hard drives without a switch. That would absolutely rock.
Use For all xbox versions xbox 1.0 - 1.6a&b
Disable Xbox Live So you don't log on xbl for mistake.
All harddrive sizes higher then 137 or bigger
two xbox hdds without switch
Adjust fan speed
Overclock cpu speed
IGR to open the dvd drive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But the ind bios progect is die?
the ability to change the startup animation but its probly not in the bios
ability to use kaid server (kai xlink), mabey patch the dvd drive secure media code on the fly.
yes,
we definitely want kaid built in a bios!
that should be possible. i just came across this post on the xlink forum: xlink kai forum post.
if i knew how to do it, i wouldn't ask.
but if anyone was able to, i think this would be the absolute killerapp for xbox (in combination with xbmc).
hope someone's got time...
mod on,
spoone
Here's an idea... an xbox without a hard drive just a dvd player and a dvd burner. The bios would control all actions that you need.
QUOTE(MIb2347 @ Apr 6 2006, 09:52 AM)
i think there should be a special bios just for those who have media center as their dash
like how the crowmwell one that comes on modchips has its own screen and doesnt have the flubber
you could have a xbmc one
You can already do this more or less: get the ind-bios or some other bios that lets you disable the flubber intro (and as many other boot-time checks and so on as possible), and set the executable it will boot to be XBMC. Cromwell boots very fast because it throws the MS kernel away completely and uses its own routines to access the hardware, which don't take as long to initialise (and don't use half the devices on the xbox anyway) - this isn't an option for booting XBMC which requires a full MS(-compatible) kernel to be running, since it's an xbe.
A really useful bios would have auto-xbe patching for 128memory when an xbe is run.
This 128 upgrade is very useful but tedious with all the ftping and patching xbes for it.
embedded FTP client
Doubt it would ever happen within 1meg tsop size tho'
QUOTE(BigGanja @ Apr 17 2006, 08:49 AM)
embedded FTP client
Doubt it would ever happen within 1meg tsop size tho'
The X3 bios has an FTP server in it. It is 1MB (although you can't flash it to a TSOP).
QUOTE(spoone @ Feb 15 2006, 05:51 AM)
yes,
we definitely want kaid built in a bios!
that should be possible. i just came across this post on the xlink forum:
xlink kai forum post.
if i knew how to do it, i wouldn't ask.
but if anyone was able to, i think this would be the absolute killerapp for xbox (in combination with xbmc).
hope someone's got time...
mod on,
spoone
Somebody please do this!
QUOTE(jcautela @ Apr 11 2006, 12:13 PM)
A really useful bios would have auto-xbe patching for 128memory when an xbe is run.
This 128 upgrade is very useful but tedious with all the ftping and patching xbes for it.
what i want to see is a patch to the retail bios that allows 128mb ram natively, as well as this.
QUOTE(Axl_Mas @ Jan 26 2007, 03:54 PM)
A bios that can accelerate or decelerate the fan speed to mantein the selected cpu temp (as the fan control of xbmc but build in the bios!)
the x3 bios has a fan speed selector, but i don't think that there is anything for adjusting fan speed to maintain temp.
for 256k bios to actually still be in devolpment and worked on ! and any of these(in this thread) ideas to come to light !
for the X2 50xx to have an injection system like Ind-bios are, as ind-bios dont have a change to be updated as they lost there source !
and so we we would then have a peoper all in one bios (and not rely on silly ini files on HDD, and that stopid bios loading screens !!
Mick ....
The ability to restart the network without a reboot.
1. reconfig network (static to static/dynamic)
2. want to connect xbox to other xbox
3. switch from network to crossover/pc
etc...
oh yeah
forgot to connect network cable before boot up - oops
wifi usb dongle to work would many like
Bios that would support a 3TB hard drive? Basically be able to format the F and G partitions with 128 bit clusters? Or maybe make a 3rd partition?
Nobody is developing Xbox 1 BIOSes. I doubt that anyone with access to any BIOS source code even reads these posts any more.
What a fabulously uneducated ramble. If it had been in the Newbie section it might have been excusable, but......
You can already run a BIOS from disk - Google PBL.
The BIOS does come with support for the hardware - what exactly do you think is missing?
If you want different flubber, write your own BIOS.
You can wipe the chip and load your own "custom pre-made BIOS" - that's what TSOP flashing and chip flashing does, and there are loads of BIOSes available, many of which can be customised.
Don't know if this has already been covered but here goes.
I can unpack a evoxm8 bios to an img and view its contents no problem.
Why m8 you may ask, well after disabling a few useless bits (flubber etc) it boots much faster for me than the rest, much faster.
I know i can disable flubber etc with X2 bios but i still have to wait for the damn x2 live config BS whether i switch it on or off .
IND has bugs which have been covered on these pages so that rules it out.
Plus m8 doesnt require a boot file on the HDD where as the rest seem to need one for custom configs.
Unless someone can enlighten me to change my thinking !
What i would like to know is it possible to hex edit the m8 bios to recognise 128mb ?
Or does this even matter nowadays as we can patch xbe's with DeLimiter tools.
thanks in advance for any advise or abuse.
As hacks will become a bit easier to implement, I think it's time we here people's suggestions for new BIOS hacks.
The idea I had is one that eliminates the clock check, or presets it if it's invalid.
I'd also like a BIOS that forces a boot to DVD no matter what (X2 BIOSes seem to have problem with this) - especially if there are problems with the HD
Thirdly, a BIOS shouldn't care if the EEPROM is hosed. The Debug BIOS boots fine with hosed EEPROMs, it's time we had a mod BIOS that did the same.
All three of these ideas are to minimize the many problems modders face using the current batch of 256k BIOSes. Now that code exists to implement patches and test more goodies, perhaps we'll see new BIOS hacking groups emerge on the Xbox Scene.
Oh... also, compatiblity with the Phoenix Loader for future BIOS releases... at least as a secondary release or a simple PPF patch (or maybe a tool?)
FTP server built into the bios... have a bios setup screen, kinda like on PCs. You could do all the XB-Tool stuff off of your xbox (i can't see this working with anything but the pheonix bios loader though). I'll post again when I think of more.
QUOTE (muerte @ Jul 22 2003, 06:06 PM) |
FTP server built into the bios... have a bios setup screen, kinda like on PCs. You could do all the XB-Tool stuff off of your xbox (i can't see this working with anything but the pheonix bios loader though). I'll post again when I think of more. |
That bios editor on xbox seems nice!
I wondered if ftp could be built into the bios. That would be an amazing dev if its possible. No more need to put this in dashboards. Great ideas BJ!!
QUOTE (Xeero @ Jul 22 2003, 03:26 PM) |
Similar to how the X2 BIOS patches XBEs with media checks on the fly, it would be nice if it would patch XBEs that attempt to connect to Live in the same manner. It would be nice if it would display an error notifying the user, then load the dashboard.....of even just load the dashboard. That would be sufficient, and I can't imagine it would be that difficult. |
Especially with Live Aware coming out. Who knows how that will work "behind the scenes". I wonder when the time will come when people will need a second Xbox just for Live. I know I am glad I already got that.
This post has been edited by shanafan: Jul 22 2003, 06:57 PM
There was a discussion a while back on making a BIOS hack that wouldn't boot from DVD first, however this would cause problems if the harddisk boot failed.
It would be really good if the BIOS would boot to say dvdboot.xbe instead of default.xbe so that a boot disk could always be made...
Final point though, it might be a good idea that whovever creates this hack, be it XbTool or by Xecuter team, decides on what the boot name is. That way we all have the same boot name for our bootdisks.
Also, a more stable - reliable IGR that just returns to Evox.
This post has been edited by vtex: Jul 23 2003, 12:10 PM
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Also, a more stable - reliable IGR that just returns to Evox. |
Have you tried X2's?
How about:
IN GAME SHUTDOWN.
We have IGR, but how about a controller combo that shuts the xbox power off? That would be awesome. (I don't want to do a controller mod, fixing a power switch, etc.)
connects to my fridge and a robot that work together to bring me beer
bootloader ,to chose dashboard
kinda like linux
This post has been edited by assmonkey: Jul 28 2003, 05:30 AM
QUOTE (feflicker @ Jul 28 2003, 07:12 AM) |
How about:
IN GAME SHUTDOWN.
We have IGR, but how about a controller combo that shuts the xbox power off? That would be awesome. (I don't want to do a controller mod, fixing a power switch, etc.) |
Is it so hard to do a IGR and then select shutdown from the dashboard you are using ?
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When ever you load an xbe from the ms dash, it is automatically mounted as the D: this is to make it easier for the programmer, (those legal one's) any way |
I think its msdash "security" but maybe this is bios bound? so i posted this in the bios forum, if someone cann tell me its not bios at all, then i will remobve.
the reason i dont want the MSDASH to mount every program it loads to D: drive, is because when i load EVOX from the ms dash, and i try to backup a game, instead of D: drive being the Disc, its the "EvoX" folder contents.....
QUOTE |
I think its msdash "security" but maybe this is bios bound? so i posted this in the bios forum, if someone cann tell me its not bios at all, then i will remobve. |
i dont know if its security but its a pain in the arse.
Even loading from nexgen, evox is mounted as D:
QUOTE (vtex @ Jul 23 2003, 09:11 AM) |
There was a discussion a while back on making a BIOS hack that wouldn't boot from DVD first, however this would cause problems if the harddisk boot failed.
It would be really good if the BIOS would boot to say dvdboot.xbe instead of default.xbe so that a boot disk could always be made... |
Use XBtool that can edit what file the xbox looks for on the cd
muthafucker hehe. come on u super nerds fix this lol.. jk
bios loads a list to select what bios would you like to load from the hard drive
keyboard and mouse
replace boot video
replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up
allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx
cpu and video card over clock hey it could happen one day lol
maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast
hehe i can go on forever
QUOTE (ZASADAR @ Aug 1 2003, 07:21 AM) |
bios loads a list to select what bios would you like to load from the hard drive keyboard and mouse replace boot video replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx cpu and video card over clock hey it could happen one day lol maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast hehe i can go on forever |
Most of your ideas only make sense to YOU!
QUOTE (ZASADAR @ Aug 1 2003, 07:21 AM) |
replace boot video |
There's some work being done on this.
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replace the cd rom no need to keep original hooked up
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X2 BIOS already allows you to remove the DVD-ROM drive and successfully boot. Adding another HD to that IDE channel and using both is a huge BIOS hack.
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allow xbox to run like pc and think the video card is geforce fx |
What does this even mean??
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maybe bios support to run just like psx or dream cast |
Why in the world would you want to reduce the performance to that of a PSX or DC?
I would love a bios that turns off the screen (or loads a simple screen saver) after about 5m of playing a game if no buttons are pressed. XBMP and EVOx have this feature, but built into the bios would be ideal in my eyes.
QUOTE ((>Stormy<) @ Aug 5 2003, 03:05 PM) |
A bios that allows dynamic switching of drives based on shortcut commands givin by individual applications/programs. Basically a built in switch for extra harddrives and dvd drives would be really really sweet. |
This would require additional hardware augmentation, as well.
could save states support for xbox games be built into the bios?
Donno about the possibility, but wouldn't it be nice to access your bios like on a pc, to disable/enable or change certain features? I know it can be done by creating a new one but it would be nice if you didn't need a to flash your bios anytime you want to change a feature.
How about changing logo and letters??
QUOTE (billybobz0r @ Aug 6 2003, 08:13 PM) |
Donno about the possibility, but wouldn't it be nice to access your bios like on a pc, to disable/enable or change certain features? I know it can be done by creating a new one but it would be nice if you didn't need a to flash your bios anytime you want to change a feature. |
I guess you don't understand the nature of a flash ROM. You need to flash it to make alterations.
The ability for the BIOS to read certain settings off an ini file on the hard drive, so that it would be possible to modify the actions of the BIOS without reflashing each time.
QUOTE (blaze_all_day @ Aug 7 2003, 11:44 AM) |
Screen capture when play a game. Like evox do, but with a combinaison of buttons |
You can already doing that using a debug bios.
Do a search if you're really interested in it.
seriously though, why haven't they added this into x2 bios (making it 512 instead of 256 if it's too big)?
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Is it so hard to do a IGR and then select shutdown from the dashboard you are using ? |
Actually, YES! I use the MS$ Dash. I haven't ever seen a "Shutdown" option
I only use other dashes off of disc, when I need them. (My preference)
As for the shutdown option, if you are running the game off a disc, IGR will not bring you back to the dash, it will simply restart the game.
One feature that i would love to see, is being able to boot an xbe from a memory card. Slap your dash on a card, no worries about xbox live checking the hard drive. Would also be nice for those who have trouble getting evox installed due to crappy dvd drives. They could get a friend with a modded xbox to load evox on a card for them.
QUOTE (heinrich @ Aug 14 2003, 06:12 AM) |
One feature that i would love to see, is being able to boot an xbe from a memory card. Slap your dash on a card, no worries about xbox live checking the hard drive. Would also be nice for those who have trouble getting evox installed due to crappy dvd drives. They could get a friend with a modded xbox to load evox on a card for them. |
Or those who have an X-key device would be one step closer to getting EvoX to boot if none of their CD-RWs and CD-Rs will boot in their Thomson. ::shrug::
wish there was a way to do IGR with remote.
possibly make an original ms bios, so if we accidently select live it doesnt ban, but contains the features of a modified bios, dont no if possible, just suggesting as the forum suggests, btw, i have evox on my box booting from hdd, and my cousin has a box with the same xec2 lit chip, y3t his igr doesnt work, but mine does, he boots nexgen from cd, but i put evox on to test and no working, y does it work on mine and not on his, exact same chip, diff hdds, same bios y
QUOTE (damatrixz @ Aug 15 2003, 05:13 PM) |
possibly make an original ms bios, so if we accidently select live it doesnt ban, but contains the features of a modified bios, dont no if possible, just suggesting as the forum suggests, btw, i have evox on my box booting from hdd, and my cousin has a box with the same xec2 lit chip, y3t his igr doesnt work, but mine does, he boots nexgen from cd, but i put evox on to test and no working, y does it work on mine and not on his, exact same chip, diff hdds, same bios y |
I dont think it would be possible, or in the interest of the bois makers to make a bios that lets you get on live. As for your IGR questions, i would start a new thread and ask, and keep this one on topic.
Another feature, that I would think would be easy to implement is EJECT_FIX_DISABLE similiar to the IGR disable file that you can use with x2 bios. This would be ideal for matrix users that use mode 3, they can still use the latest and greatest bios without the problem of not being able to use mode3. Right now, its not required, as they can just use 4976.02, but would be something to look into for future versions.
How about IGR Disable.
Have it so that if you hold down a certain button while powering the unit on it will disable the IGR feature in the bios. (Much better than creating/deleting a file on e: all the time...)
A built-in cheat system (i.e. the ability to stop a game, search for a cheat, start it up- repeat until value is found) would be awesome; it'd be like the GS Pro on the PSX. Implementation of another FS (such as NTFS or, even, an actual BIOS implementation of FATX-2) would be cool; no more worrying about filename lengths. I understand Avalaunch solves this problem already, but it's kind of just a hack; it's not a real FS, in its own right.
Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition. For example, the BIOS could have all its default features, but it could also check the XML to modify these features. E.g.:
Now that we have ftpd in the bios, it would be nice to see SITE commands to format the hard drive
It's been mentioned before but I would kill for keyboard and mouse support. Not sure how possible it is though.
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Have it so that if you hold down a certain button while powering the unit on it will disable the IGR feature |
Well, we know it is possible to detect a button press during bootup (with the release of x24978).
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Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition |
That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it.
That reminds me, why not embed shutdown.xbe so we can shutdown from the controller now without a hardware mod
Things I want to see is:
1. SMB/CIFS-shares mapped to devices (F:, G: etc).
2. Sleep state with wake-on-keypress (Just like on PC)
3. Real embedded FTPserver, the way it is in X2-4978 just isn't impressive. Embedded (for real) would enable you to ftp in during gameplay or whatever.
4. Configuration via www and bios-setup screen on the actual xboxen. (Really the only thing I can think of where a xbe inside the kernel could be usable).
And I really want this in a 512K bios. I'm using the TSOP with two 512K banks. retail + retail + X2 + X2. 1M isn't interesting. Then I'll just stick with 4977. Perhaps a modular design?
Cheers
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QUOTE (Patchinko @ Aug 23 2003, 03:50 AM) |
A bios that would enable virtual memory on the HDD. That way, anyone could have a 128MB (or 256, or 512... ) Xbox. But I'm not sure if that's possible at all ! |
The thing is, every application would have to be aware of this swap file, or it wouldn't be used.
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 12:47 AM) |
QUOTE | Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition |
That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it. |
Hmm...I dunno. There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978.
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 23 2003, 02:04 PM) |
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 12:47 AM) | QUOTE | Since the BIOS settings can't be easily changed when the BIOS is on the mod chip, it would be nice if there could be an optional XML file that could be placed on a specific partition |
That is a good idea as well, but I think they can change the bios once it is on the chip, at least that is how it seems now that x24978 has been released with an xbe embedded in it. |
Hmm...I dunno. There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978. |
So maybe some program where you can modify options of the bios, and after applying changes it just reflashes the chip? But almost the same does Xbtool (without reflashing ). Eh, it doesn't make to much sense. It would be just a toy.
) should be easy to configire.
I now have left&right trigger+A+X for IGR, wouldn't it be sweet to have (same)+B+Y to start XBMP or possibly even another dash? =)
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3. Real embedded FTPserver, the way it is in X2-4978 just isn't impressive. Embedded (for real) would enable you to ftp in during gameplay or whatever. |
What about the games that configure networking when launched? Wouldn't the two apps using the NIC give a problem? Just my thought...
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Hmm...I dunno. There are no changes made to the BIOS that's already on the chip, not even in 4978 |
Yeah, now thinking about it, that is probably true. The change doesn't necessarily have to be made on the flash rom does it? Can't any "on-the-fly" change just be patched to memory, since bios is loaded to memory on bootup?
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I have a great idea. IN-GAME-ANYTHING! I know it's possible, we already know we can change the button config in evox.ini |
Yeah, but that IGR is a function of EvoX, not the BIOS. It is still a good idea though!
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 03:00 PM) |
QUOTE | I have a great idea. IN-GAME-ANYTHING! I know it's possible, we already know we can change the button config in evox.ini |
Yeah, but that IGR is a function of EvoX, not the BIOS. It is still a good idea though! |
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Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).
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Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).
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We were thinking along the lines of Xeero. We should add a x2bios.xml file somewhere and be able to specify bios options, such as hot-keys to launch xbe files, similar to how IGR mapping works in the EvoX dash.
QUOTE (A.Z.BEST® @ Aug 23 2003, 06:48 AM) |
- Booting selected dashboard when pressing some button - A - launches evoxdash.xbe, B - launches avalaunch.xbe etc. - possibility to boot console with erased/ fucked EEPROM - VGA mode and normal TV mode buit in - FTP mode built in but with booting an *.xbe within (boot Ms Dash with additional sections with FTP from the bios within) |
These are exactly what my wishes are too.
If possible I would like to see a dashboard xbe in the BIOS the same way that the current ftp xbe is embedded into the BIOS. This would give it a real reason to make it 1MB.
QUOTE (chinmi @ Aug 24 2003, 12:31 AM) |
how about this :
A PASSWORD !!! |
just use Xselector 0.6......
and same to the one that wants to be able to hit a button to select a dash
The thing I'd really like to see, and I think a lot can see the potential in this, is bios support for usb connected mass storage devices (Just map it to a drive letter like a memory card.)
Being able to hook up a usb harddrive or dvd drive using a simple xbox->usb cable,
you could build an amazing juke box without hacking inside the box !
Or keep a compressed archive of all your games on a big HD and just copy them over to the internal drive when you want to use them.
I know you can boot linux and use any "standard" usb device but I really don't like the idea of putting linux on my gamming console... and it'd be sooo much simpler to be able to do it in any dash using bios support. And if possible support to lunch apps straight from the usb HD (apps that wont mind the *slow* bandwidth of course...)
Any updates on the support for lunching xbe from memory cards yet ?
(like booting a dash from memory card instead of hd.)
And thank you to all devs who volonteer their time and knowhow to all of us ignorants and ungratefull bastards
- Map buttons or button combinations to any app/function
- Hibernate/resume function (Swap the running app out to the HD and be able to restore it)
- Mini dash with FTP, Format, Launching capability
- Mini network stack to allow a network drive to be mapped to a local drive letter so that games/apps could be run off the network.
I was thinking about something that actually shouldn't be too hard to implement:
BFM capability, like the Debug BIOS:
Detect one or more BFM BIOSes in C:\BIOS and E:\BIOS and offer them up as choices (along with "boot X2 4979")
The biggest feature would be an X2 BIOS that allows you to boot from DVD, REGARDLESS of the state of the hard drive or dash files. It should also have an option to "fix" the clock if it's invalid. This is one of the biggest flaws in the current X2/X3 BIOSes out.
I have not personally had to deal with this problem, but it is a biggie, as people are ALWAYS having grief with the situation.
The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...
Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out...
QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM) |
The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...
Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out... |
Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes.
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 12:11 PM) |
QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM) | The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...
Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out... |
Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes. |
Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM?
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM) |
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 12:11 PM) | QUOTE (RiceCake @ Aug 25 2003, 11:22 AM) | The more capability to recover from a hosed system, the better...
Pain in the ass to start swapping parts out... |
Ah yes... EEPROM protection would also be equally nice, too. Another page that would be nice to steal from the Debug BIOSes. |
Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM? |
Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).
Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"
Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed.
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 01:04 PM) |
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM) | Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM? |
Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).
Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"
Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed. |
Really? I didn't know that. I've been really lazy about getting a TA debug BIOS on my Chameleon (I had it on my X2 Pro), but it looks like I'm going to have to as a precaution. I'd pick up an X2.2 Pro for the benefit of the fancy switches, but I'd rather wait until the next batch of chips (X3, X-B.I.T.) get a chance to flex their muscles before making that investment.
Also, what part of the missing-dashboard-files situation does the D.6 BIOS handle that an X2 BIOS can't? To my recollection, if you are missing dashboard files but booting to a disc, it won't matter because it will check the disc's default.xbe before checking the HD for the required files; both BIOSes will do this. If the disc is not bootable it will attempt to boot the dashboard with a dirty-disc error, and if files are missing you get an Error 16; again this is the same with both BIOS releases.
Am I incorrect in my understanding of this? Will D.6 boot a disc's default.xbe without Settings_Clock.xip while X2 won't? I guess I'm confused.
I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.
reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it. this would be a huge help.
QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 01:24 PM) |
QUOTE (BenJeremy @ Aug 25 2003, 01:04 PM) | QUOTE (Xeero @ Aug 25 2003, 12:17 PM) | Can a debug BIOS boot with a trashed EEPROM? |
Yes, it can. Seems like a simple thing.... downside is that if the HD password is trashed, you can't access the drive, but really, not a big deal, if you ask me (same problem on that count, no matter what, if the EEPROM is trashed - that's what EEPROM backups are for).
Looking back, I should have said "Trashed EEPROM protection"
Right now, I have to recommend people boot using Evo-X D.6 (if they are installing a new HD, or lost their dashfiles) or the Debug BIOs (trashed EEPROM), because X2 handles neither situation gracefully - while doing everything else very nicely indeed. |
Really? I didn't know that. I've been really lazy about getting a TA debug BIOS on my Chameleon (I had it on my X2 Pro), but it looks like I'm going to have to as a precaution. I'd pick up an X2.2 Pro for the benefit of the fancy switches, but I'd rather wait until the next batch of chips (X3, X-B.I.T.) get a chance to flex their muscles before making that investment.
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Yes, the Debug BIOS boots with a hosed EEPROM (I inadvertantly confirmed this myself as well)
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Also, what part of the missing-dashboard-files situation does the D.6 BIOS handle that an X2 BIOS can't? To my recollection, if you are missing dashboard files but booting to a disc, it won't matter because it will check the disc's default.xbe before checking the HD for the required files; both BIOSes will do this. If the disc is not bootable it will attempt to boot the dashboard with a dirty-disc error, and if files are missing you get an Error 16; again this is the same with both BIOS releases.
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That's what you'd think.... but I've seen countless reports of people unable to boot their Xboxes with X2 BIOSes when the dash files got hosed or when changing to a new hard drive. Why? I'm not entirely sure, but I think the X2 BIOS does a few things to the HD before it attempts to boot the DVD (we know it checks for an IGR file, for example). All I know is that my advice of booting D.6 works every time for these folks.
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Am I incorrect in my understanding of this? Will D.6 boot a disc's default.xbe without Settings_Clock.xip while X2 won't? I guess I'm confused.
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Like I said.... don't know why it is. I guess Team Xecuter may have an idea... but they haven't fixed it yet. I'm sure once they recognize it may not be a few isolated cases, they'll look into it and fix it once and for all.
QUOTE (feflicker @ Aug 23 2003, 09:13 PM) |
QUOTE | Hardly anybody uses the Evo-X IGR, due to compatibility issues, and the X2 BIOSes have IGR (they were first, you know).
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We were thinking along the lines of Xeero. We should add a x2bios.xml file somewhere and be able to specify bios options, such as hot-keys to launch xbe files, similar to how IGR mapping works in the EvoX dash. |
Soo, does this mean I influenced that? With my IGA thing? =)
1. no more 137 GB-Limit
2. built-in FTP, which you can access while playing
3. built-in dashboard (for faster IGR)
4. capability of loading plugins from HDD
QUOTE (janten @ Aug 28 2003, 07:03 AM) |
3. built-in dashboard (for faster IGR) |
Jesus, how fast do you want it? You already get back to the dash in what, 3 seconds?
QUOTE (PlastiKK_ @ Aug 28 2003, 08:40 AM) |
QUOTE (janten @ Aug 28 2003, 07:03 AM) | 3. built-in dashboard (for faster IGR) |
Jesus, how fast do you want it? You already get back to the dash in what, 3 seconds? |
Though I think it is of a lower priority than many other features, I guess I can understand why some people would want an IGR built into the kernel. However, I agree with PlastiKK_ - faster IGR is probably not what's going to be the incentive that drives one of the dev teams to include it. The difference in load times would be negligible.
QUOTE (billybobz0r @ Aug 28 2003, 07:50 AM) |
So if FTP is possible in bios maybe there could also be support to have XNS shares, so we can boot games from pc ? |
No, see the FTP is an xbe, inside of the bios, to do what you want, an xbe would have to launch, transfer the entire game to the hd, and then boot the game, which would probably be *possible*, but not likely.. I think i can safely say that you will never be able to 'stream games' over a network.
I'm not sure if this is a bios hack or not, or even if its possible, but 1080i support for DVD's would be incredible
Ok changed my mind, I would like a bios that would execute a list of programs off the hard drive.
I thought I read somewhere, that someone had fixed the bios to load a launcher program that would read a list off the hardrive. The main reason is I don't want to change the msdash, but would like to be able to pull up a menu and run DVDX, XBMP, Ftp server, or the like. The launch feature has several possibilities and am looking forward to see what they do. Just hope they don't go past the 1mb mark.
QUOTE (Tover @ Sep 3 2003, 11:23 AM) |
Ok changed my mind, I would like a bios that would execute a list of programs off the hard drive.
I thought I read somewhere, that someone had fixed the bios to load a launcher program that would read a list off the hardrive. The main reason is I don't want to change the msdash, but would like to be able to pull up a menu and run DVDX, XBMP, Ftp server, or the like. The launch feature has several possibilities and am looking forward to see what they do. Just hope they don't go past the 1mb mark. |
That would be cool to have a list like that. And I also hope they don't break the 1mb barrier. If they do they're bastards.
I do believe that there is something similar to what you're talking about. It works with an Xecuter BIOS. When you press A one program loads up, when B is pressed, another, X, Y, ect. I believe there's a total of 8 possible buttons to press. Then if no button is pressed then the dash loads up. You can set the buttons to any .xbe file you want and then the dash can be set to what you want too.
This way you could have the MS dash and also load up the program you want with the push of a button.
As Chinmi said in an earlier post, password-on-bootup would be nice. Okay, so you can do it with an xbe, but this won't stop you booting games (or booting an Evox installer CD and removing the password xbe). In the BIOS is more secure, if your Xbox gets nicked you can at least relax in the knowledge that the robbing bastards have gained no more than a big doorstop (unless someone reflashes or fits a new mod, but any reputable installer ought to refuse to do so unless the customer can prove ownership).
This one should be relatively easy to implement, as the Xbox already knows how to read it: the ability to format the F: drive using GDF instead of FATX, thus overcoming the 42-character limitation without having to resort to the Avalaunch method (not that I'm knocking it) or having to squeeze in NTFS/FAT32 support.
nvm
QUOTE (sk8ermike6789 @ Sep 3 2003, 06:03 PM) |
make the bios look for a dashboard in the F: or E: drive! so ms cant see it, and youll have an untouched C: drive |
Ummmm.......
I don't know if you're joking or not, but that already exists.
480p bootscreen, if its at all possible. Most VGA users can't properly enjoy their custom bootscreens.
I know exactly shit about what the bios can and cant do, but how about this ( if it is even possible... ).
How about a BIOS that can tell if the outgoing network traffic is local ( system link ) or now ( LIVE ), and if it is LIVE then don't allow it, ( Games should just display the "Can't reach live" message, and M$ can't ban your modded box cause they dont know it exists... )
Call me stupid, but it was a good idea I thought so be nice...
QUOTE (derson @ Sep 9 2003, 12:27 AM) |
Now that we have an XBE in the bios and we can read if a button is pressed... I would like to see the XBE loaded on a 256KB partition. This would allow us to use FlashX to flash a new XBE to the ROM... As modchips advance and the sizes grow, the XBE can get bigger and/or we could flash multiple XBEs to the ROM - mini-dashboards, FTP, BIOS defrag, etc... |
The thing about this is that you can't just have an XBE in a BIOS bank...you still need a kernel that can dictate the primary functions of the XBE, and to get the kernel and an XBE inside of 256K would be a pressing task.
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Along the same thought, why not allow us "simple" mod-chip users (X2 lite, Matrix, cheap-mod, etc) the ability to have multiple BIOS selection. This could be done by flashing a different 256KB BIOS to the 2nd half of the 512KB bios bank. By pressing a button on boot, the code would finish execution by loading the 2nd 256KB instead of the 1st 256KB. X2 lite users would then be able to have four 256KB BIOSes (or two 256KB & one 512KB) on the mod chip... it also seems possible that the BIOS could halt and wait for one of four buttons (like press F1 to continue) and then attempt to load any of 4 possible 256KB BIOSes. |
What you're talking about doesn't have anything to do with the BIOS - it has more to do with either making a change to the X2.x hardware (a change present in the X2.x Pro family) or hacking the MCPX (to only download 256K from a starting point in the FlashROM...then halting).
The biggest feature would be an X2 BIOS that allows you to boot from DVD, REGARDLESS of the state of the hard drive or dash files. It should also have an option to "fix" the clock if it's invalid. This is one of the biggest flaws in the current X2/X3 BIOSes out.
QUOTE (xboxistheshiznit @ Sep 10 2003, 11:40 PM) |
how about a tool like XBtool that could inject a xbe into a bios. using that you could posibly put the whole evox dashboard in the bios, and with the tool to inject it in there you could put your own evox.ini file in there. i whold love that |
Yes, I would love to see that. That would be deserving of a 1mb BIOS.
QUOTE (xboxistheshiznit @ Sep 10 2003, 11:40 PM) |
how about a tool like XBtool that could inject a xbe into a bios. using that you could posibly put the whole evox dashboard in the bios, and with the tool to inject it in there you could put your own evox.ini file in there. i whold love that |
i think your forgetting what a bios is... Basic Input Output System. Keep in mind BASIC... this is comparable to wanting your Windows (or whatever operating system) loaded into your bios on your pc. In all seriousness, it's a bad idea to even want to... imagine editing your "evox.ini" file on your xbox and the power goes out...bye bye bios...lmao
QUOTE (juan23 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:13 PM) |
I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.
reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it. this would be a huge help. |
uh...you can ALWAYS boot from dvd, by putting a disc in and powering it off then back on.
QUOTE (jz28 @ Sep 11 2003, 04:14 PM) |
QUOTE (juan23 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:13 PM) | I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.
reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it. this would be a huge help. |
uh...you can ALWAYS boot from dvd, by putting a disc in and powering it off then back on. |
Not true man, It usually works that way, but for alot of people that feature does not work. DVD booting first always is critical.
QUOTE (ub312g0d @ Sep 13 2003, 01:52 AM) |
QUOTE (jz28 @ Sep 11 2003, 04:14 PM) | QUOTE (juan23 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:13 PM) | I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.
reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it. this would be a huge help. |
uh...you can ALWAYS boot from dvd, by putting a disc in and powering it off then back on. |
Not true man, It usually works that way, but for alot of people that feature does not work. DVD booting first always is critical. |
unless a user has modified the bios to boot from a different file that the default.xbe off disc, it will boot to the dvd, please show me otherwise, as I don't believe what you are saying at all.
QUOTE (jz28 @ Sep 13 2003, 11:04 AM) |
QUOTE (ub312g0d @ Sep 13 2003, 01:52 AM) | QUOTE (jz28 @ Sep 11 2003, 04:14 PM) | QUOTE (juan23 @ Aug 25 2003, 04:13 PM) | I would totally love to see a boot sequence, so u can choose from dvd or HDD.
reason why if u have a toast hdd, boot the xbox via dvd so u can ftp over to xbox and just maybe be able to save a few files on it. this would be a huge help. |
uh...you can ALWAYS boot from dvd, by putting a disc in and powering it off then back on. |
Not true man, It usually works that way, but for alot of people that feature does not work. DVD booting first always is critical. |
unless a user has modified the bios to boot from a different file that the default.xbe off disc, it will boot to the dvd, please show me otherwise, as I don't believe what you are saying at all. |
Um, I guess you don't understand the problem (though it's been described many times).
Lots of people cannot boot to DVD with "new" hard drives using X2 BIOSes. For some reason, the X2 hangs because it is looking at the hard drive, which isn't formatted yet. I don't know if this is 100% consistent, but it DOES HAPPEN. This happens if the unit is powered up with a disc in or if the disc is inserted afterward.
The end result is that it's impossible to "install" a new disc drive using an X2 BIOS. It never boots the DVD/CD.
Team Xecuter is working on the problem, though, so hopefully it will be solved soon.
Without creating a duplicate set of routines for a "FATY" for example, and using that on F: and G: to hold games (while using the standard FATX routines on C:, E: and the temp partitions), I think the task might be a bit out of reach for now.
QUOTE (neonmod @ Sep 17 2003, 04:17 PM) |
How about implementing a feature to enable TSOP Flashing, Like the Matrix flash TSOP bios but with the ability to work with any modchip and any version Xbox not just v.1.0! |
Well, this should have been done already. Team Xodus, on their own support forums, told me that there was going to be a special BIOS released for the Chameleon that allows TSOP flashing SOON!!!! Soon??? Apparenly soon means within 5 years. That question/answer was 2 weeks after the Chameleon came out. They also told me that it was impossible to flash the TSOP with the Chameleon until that BIOS comes out.
Assholes.
Yeah, i have had the same findings, owning a chameleon myself.
I'm still wondering whether this version of bios will enable TSOP flashing, someone has already suggested that it does work in the TSOP forum.
I'll test it this weekend using the latest dash.
its been asked before im sure...
480p bios
QUOTE (PlastiKK_ @ Sep 17 2003, 05:25 PM) |
QUOTE (neonmod @ Sep 17 2003, 04:17 PM) | How about implementing a feature to enable TSOP Flashing, Like the Matrix flash TSOP bios but with the ability to work with any modchip and any version Xbox not just v.1.0! |
Well, this should have been done already. Team Xodus, on their own support forums, told me that there was going to be a special BIOS released for the Chameleon that allows TSOP flashing SOON!!!! Soon??? Apparenly soon means within 5 years. That question/answer was 2 weeks after the Chameleon came out. They also told me that it was impossible to flash the TSOP with the Chameleon until that BIOS comes out.
Assholes. |
Evox released that bios a few days ago.
QUOTE (heinrich @ Sep 18 2003, 06:38 AM) |
QUOTE (PlastiKK_ @ Sep 17 2003, 05:25 PM) | QUOTE (neonmod @ Sep 17 2003, 04:17 PM) | How about implementing a feature to enable TSOP Flashing, Like the Matrix flash TSOP bios but with the ability to work with any modchip and any version Xbox not just v.1.0! |
Well, this should have been done already. Team Xodus, on their own support forums, told me that there was going to be a special BIOS released for the Chameleon that allows TSOP flashing SOON!!!! Soon??? Apparenly soon means within 5 years. That question/answer was 2 weeks after the Chameleon came out. They also told me that it was impossible to flash the TSOP with the Chameleon until that BIOS comes out.
Assholes. |
Evox released that bios a few days ago. |
Really? It allows you to flash the TSOP with a Chameleon?
Damn. I'm retarded.
They're still assholes though.
Edit: I see it now. I guess I just overlooked it. I'm dumb. Still assholes though.
I am wondering if it is possible for the developers to integrate "libcdio" into a bios? This would be similar to "DAEMON TOOLS " which would allow you to mount a backed up DVD image and basically trick "DVDX" into thinking the image was the internal DVD drive and allow playback? The reason I ask is that I currently back up my DVD's to my PC drive or the XBOX's internal drive (upgraded to 120 gig) and use either relax to stream or the XBOX's internal drive in conjuction with XBMP, but the biggest limatation is the lack of DTS pass thru support in XBMP which DVDx has by default.
Thank you in advance!!
it worked a charm for me. are you using it correctly?
the idea is to flash your mod chip with tsop_d6.bin, boot your xbox, and the front light will sit there flashing orange, you then disconnect the d0 line, and it boots up like usual. now flash the tsop and your all done. the only problem is that its then a barstard to get the tsop_d6 bios OFF the mod chip and replace it with D6 or whatever.
please DONT try and flash your tsop with it! it WILL NOT WORK!
QUOTE (ViPeR-7 @ Sep 19 2003, 03:19 AM) |
it worked a charm for me. are you using it correctly?
the idea is to flash your mod chip with tsop_d6.bin, boot your xbox, and the front light will sit there flashing orange, you then disconnect the d0 line, and it boots up like usual. now flash the tsop and your all done. the only problem is that its then a barstard to get the tsop_d6 bios OFF the mod chip and replace it with D6 or whatever.
please DONT try and flash your tsop with it! it WILL NOT WORK! |
So you're saying that it worked like a charm for you. But are you also telling me to not flash my tsop because it won't work?
I'm confused.
ViPeR-7
Can you tell me what version xbox you tried it on and what modchip you used+mode settings.
Explain exactly what you did so i can see what could be wrong!
QUOTE (ViPeR-7 @ Sep 19 2003, 07:54 AM) |
no, im just saying you need to flash your MODCHIP with tsop_d6 and your TSOP with evox_d6
if you flash your TSOP with tsop_d6 you will have a barstard of a time fixing it and it WONT WORK |
Oh, alright. See, I was confused.
ok, if the bios freaks wanna really impress me and make a happy little mush man give me full use of my ide chain? Ta know let me drop that wieght of a dvd and put in another HDD. Please, I have been asking in the irc channels but noone seems to think of it or something. Thanks in advance I know you will get right on it.
Just for everyone's information - if you accidentally flash a 256k bios to a 1 meg TSOP you can still make it work, all you have to do is select the first block of the TSOP by grounding A18 and A19...
yeah, but meh
Surprised no one has said it but a legal homebrew bios (at least legal in europe) that boot original software and homebrew.
More likely to be implemented into xbtool.
Ability to play a video off the HD for boot up sequence instead of imbedded in bios.
Ability to turn the network port on and off, so live users can let siblings use their chipped xbox's without worrying about their younger brother getting them banned.
QUOTE (desertboy @ Sep 21 2003, 04:37 PM) |
Ability to turn the network port on and off, so live users can let siblings use their chipped xbox's without worrying about their younger brother getting them banned. |
That sounds a whole lot better and easier to implement than "a BIOS that displays an error message when live is activated."
My idea was crap. Now it's Windows CE working and booting like a normal app. I'm dum. The web browser has been done. Though weres the keyboard support?
hmm, a tool that can change the color of the boot animation. I know this had been in developement a while ago, but i don't think a program was ever released.
XBOX LIVE TYPE server built into the bios SO that system link game and if possible later that HACKED MULTIPLAYER GAME Without system link will beable to have a server base system already placed in the bios.
i don't know if that how bios work.. but it's an idea.
for example
a server that will host maddean game by making the xbox think that the second player is in the same home when it really is over a network.
there doesn't even have to be a server or a game hack problay just a config thing were the "port" will be able to be "remotely controlled"
ANYONE GET WERE I AM GOING
sry imma not a programmer
Kind of get you, but your english is much to be desired. It's been thought of before, however, and there's a pinned thread to post your ideas for new BIOS features.
perhaps we could set up some sort of prize system, and everytime a new, much desired hack is developed the individual or team responsible would win a prize from the pool
liek the first bios to prevent unwanted NIC usage
or the first FTPO daemon to run in the background of another xbe (IE MS dash or while playing a game)
maybe im just dreaming here, lol
i think he wants a tunneling prgram built into the bios
Such as, for example, a hacked Live that points to an alternative server (or reads its address from, for example, c:xboxlive.cfg). The server would have to behave just like the M$ one, but without the "you've modded your Xbox, so piss off" bits!
QUOTE (desertboy @ Sep 21 2003, 10:37 PM) |
Surprised no one has said it but a legal homebrew bios (at least legal in europe) that boot original software and homebrew.
More likely to be implemented into xbtool.
Ability to play a video off the HD for boot up sequence instead of imbedded in bios.
Ability to turn the network port on and off, so live users can let siblings use their chipped xbox's without worrying about their younger brother getting them banned. |
homebrew is still in the same language as regular xbox files, so if you had support for homebrew you'd have support for original files. that would mean reconstructing the whole kernel
to the win2k guy, this kernel is extremely stripped down! as far as win2k is concerned it might as well be a television v-chip bios
to the fake xbox live guy, any attempt at this would get attacked by MS. look in the xbox live forum, its been suggested a million times before
A bios that lets you change setup parameters, format any partitions without the use of software, change the fan speed, and access the hard drive
QUOTE (Terrorbyte @ Aug 25 2003, 08:27 PM) |
It would be cool if a future hacked BIOS could turn my XBOX into a grill or microwave -- make grilled cheese sandwiches or pizza logs for a quick snack.
No, but seriously, how about a future BIOS that didn't cause an application or game to freeze when the network cable is plugged in (especially when you have SMB/file servers sitting on your LAN or a router sending multicasts/broadcasts causing SOME XBOX apps, games, and emulators to freeze on load)? I just want convenience. |
hey! we already can do that, just turn the fan speed to 0 for the bios, and leave the xbox on for a while, youll be grilling in no time!
Hello, first off huge thanks to all those involved in the "scene". I was by no means computer literate before I owned an xbox...Over the past year and a half..lets just say I feel I've learned alot..Thanks again all!!!
Also I'm sure the following has been mentioned somewhere, sometime, by someone, but these forums though great are so full of info you'll spend months trying to make sure no one has posted what you are about to say...
Now, the recently added built in ftp server was a great idea...even with a few of the bugs I liked it...I managed to use it to fix a few xbox's...However, I have come across one that for whatever reason will not allow me to connect to the built in ftp...I believe it has something to do with either this particular xbox I'm having trouble with was not modded before it got it's error 21...Anyway if the bios ftp server is using the eeprom or memory of some sort on the xbox then that is why I am unable to connect to the xbox with this ftp server...My idea (if possible) would be to make this a completely stand alone built in app, using nothing but the chips memory to run...I realize this may make the bios image bigger then the desired 256k at this point, but hey we're already headed there now...Anyone that's been following this stuff has switched mod chips at least once...I know I started out with the enigmah which in the begining was a decent chip but soon became out of date, and not quite up to par...If this is a possible thing it would be great!!! If it's not then on with the bios made to boot directly to dvd...but I would like to see these bios built by one of the teams and not a bios hacked with xbtool...no disrespect to the authors of xbtool, cuz it's great too, but sometimes the boot partitions don't seem to work right for me. If the bios was designed to force a dvd boot then all hd problems would be basically over...Sorry this post ended up getting so long, at times alittle off the subject, but thought maybe if I give reasons for what I would like to see, it might help...Just an idea, thanks for listening!!
I know myself and more than a few others would appreciate a bios that outputs in 480p. Don't know if it's been said before but it would be a great addition to xboxtool.
I think there should be a sort of "password". What I mean in when it loads the bios certian buttons have to be held or it will just power back off. I dont think that would be too hard. 4978.3 already checks for buttons being held.
Even better would be instead of turning off have it pretend a FRAG. But thats probably not posible. Sorry if this has already been mentioned.
i dont know where else to put this but
fyi: if you modify your bios w/ xbtools and change the led color, and are installing a new hdd, u will get error 13....i am installing on my cousins and one switch has red led the other not changed. i am using boot cd and get error 13 on the modified led color bios but not the other.
QUOTE (jaysoccer7c @ Oct 19 2003, 12:20 AM) |
i dont know where else to put this but fyi: if you modify your bios w/ xbtools and change the led color, and are installing a new hdd, u will get error 13....i am installing on my cousins and one switch has red led the other not changed. i am using boot cd and get error 13 on the modified led color bios but not the other. |
Which version of XBtool are you using?
1.0.9
latest i think
Not sure if mentioned previously cause it seems quite obvious.
As we know, dvd drive takes priority in boot sequence. A feature I would find useful is; during boot, if holding down a button on the controller e.g. 'A', the the box would boot from HD as opposed to inserted disc.
Currently need to eject disc if I wish to go back to dash, not ideal.
Muzzakus.
You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe.
At least, as far as I understand it.
QUOTE (HeLiuM @ Sep 29 2003, 12:26 PM) |
QUOTE (desertboy @ Sep 21 2003, 10:37 PM) | Surprised no one has said it but a legal homebrew bios (at least legal in europe) that boot original software and homebrew.
More likely to be implemented into xbtool.
Ability to play a video off the HD for boot up sequence instead of imbedded in bios.
Ability to turn the network port on and off, so live users can let siblings use their chipped xbox's without worrying about their younger brother getting them banned. |
homebrew is still in the same language as regular xbox files, so if you had support for homebrew you'd have support for original files. that would mean reconstructing the whole kernel
to the win2k guy, this kernel is extremely stripped down! as far as win2k is concerned it might as well be a television v-chip bios
to the fake xbox live guy, any attempt at this would get attacked by MS. look in the xbox live forum, its been suggested a million times before |
I meant by homebrew bios a reverse engineered bios or as I suggested xbtool supporting applying evox's patches to an original bios.
Another more xbtool related feature custom partition sizez for f & g, I've only got a 120gig in my box and I would like a g: of say 15gig dedicated for linux only.
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 22 2003, 03:29 PM) |
QUOTE | Another more xbtool related feature custom partition sizez for f & g, I've only got a 120gig in my box and I would like a g: of say 15gig dedicated for linux only. |
What you really need is a hard drive partitioning utility. The options in XBtool are just basic starter options. Ultimately, one would use an application to setup a hard drive based partition table.
oz_paulb released some example code on how to do this. Hopefully someone will put it to use. |
Ugh.... I don't like this one.... it causes problems for us "dashboard" authors - the LBA48 table created for the X2 BIOSes locks up an Xbox solid if defined for "Big F:" and the app (such as MXM) attempts to access G:'s partition. This has to be a bug int he way the table is generated - it doesn't happen in the Evo-X BIOSes.
My solution was to look at the F: size, and if it's a SPECIFIC SIZE, attempt to access G: - it works very well for this in the upcoming release, but a variable table would throw this into disarray.
Perhaps the bug could be fixed, NghtShd? What is the difference in the way the two tables are generated? Could Partition7 ALWAYS be created, even if it's 0 length, if that's what's happening in Evo-X BIOSes?
I don't know if anyone has said it, but here's what I'd like to see..
Support for disc insert notification via ATAPI, like any computer does it, and not (only) through the yellow dongley doo that the xbox has added.
For folks like me that switch between a PC DVDRom and the XDVDRom it'd be a godsend. Evox (or whatever) could be notified and autorun, or at least let me browse a disc I just put in.
Now all I can do is the goofy trick where you put an original in the xbox dvd tray and close it just to kick the xbox into reading the TOC..
Logically, the next step would be having hitting the big eject button on the xbox send a proper ATAPI eject tray command..
How about a bios that lets us play custom soundtracks during games?
Now that would be awsome.
Is that even possiable?
Apparently the xbox has no multitasking capabilities, so I'd say without programing an mp3 player into each individual game, it's not possible.
Then again I'm far from being an expert...
[EDIT] oops, a BIOS that plays soudtracks, hmmm, that might work. It might make a huge bios though.... Not that anyone cares anymore now that you can use Pheonix Boot loader.
Now that I think about it, that should be done, it would kick ass. It should only support like mp3/ogg though, none of this windows media stuff the ms dash uses.
RelaX client too maybe?
Man I wish I knew enough about programming to implement this myself
QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 21 2003, 11:15 PM) |
You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe.
At least, as far as I understand it. |
480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher
get it from here
and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it
idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd )
QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 27 2003, 08:27 PM) |
QUOTE (theplowking @ Oct 26 2003, 03:17 PM) | QUOTE (Cutriss @ Oct 21 2003, 11:15 PM) | You don't want 480p support in the BIOS. What you really want is 480p support in the dash. And, of course, that won't be happening anytime soon for xboxdash.xbe.
At least, as far as I understand it. |
480p for xboxdash.xbe is possible....but you will have to modify it using the Progressive scan Patcher
get it from here
and 480p would be great to have in the bios as my tv wouldnt have to switch modes every time i boot it
idealy you would have this as an xbtool option (you reading this nghtshd ) |
What I meant is - You can modify xboxdash.xbe to support 480p, but you can kiss your Live EEPROM goodbye if you do so. |
That's not true - you just have 2 dash files making the naming the progressive one to something like pxboxdash.xbe and leave the original intact. Any settings changed in one are mirrored in the other just load the progressive one from Evox. This gives you a progressive xbox dash, cd, and dvd, player when you run it under your.
This appeals to two groups:
1) HDTV owners who like 480p (what's not to like) and don't want to watch all the squiggle from the transition between 480i and 480p when they change something in the dash.
2) People who use front projection systems that don't accept 480i through component cables (only 1080i, 720p, and 480p - don't knock it till you've tried Halo on a 90" screen). If these guys want to change a setting in their dash they have to turn off the xbox and attach a different video unit (RCA or Svideo) to their projectors and then switch back.
This is fairly relevant discussion on many high end audio/video boards where people have good equiptment and like to game using the Xbox. For the bios, group one doesn't like the shitty transition and group 2 can't see anything. Interestingly the ugly transition is still present when all animation and logos are disabled through XBTool, meaning that Xbox is still outputing a blank 480i signal.
I actually emailed the creator of XBTool the other day and he said he will take a look into it for future releases. There will be a lot of happy people the day we can check a box and redo our bioses in 480p.
BIOS that wouldn't allow originals to run (so that you can't boot your original Xbox Live games by accident). This is only for people with easy mod disable function though.
QUOTE (smo @ Oct 29 2003, 11:35 AM) |
BIOS that wouldn't allow originals to run (so that you can't boot your original Xbox Live games by accident). This is only for people with easy mod disable function though. |
You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe.
how about somthing like IGR, but instead of reseting, it would shut the xbox off.
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM) |
You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe. |
Yeah and re-burn all my DVD-R backups? That'd be way too much work..
save state/load state for retail games and backups
I'm currently working on this myself. But I think I might have to go the way that a trainer loads. maybe the way evox has the trainers folder. actually load before the game or something.
QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 30 2003, 06:01 PM) |
QUOTE (smo @ Oct 30 2003, 04:31 AM) | QUOTE (NghtShd @ Oct 29 2003, 10:13 PM) | You already have that feature. Chage the DVD executable to something other than default.xbe. |
Yeah and re-burn all my DVD-R backups? That'd be way too much work.. |
Well, God forbid you should have to do any work. I'll just research, design, and write up a BIOS patch which only disables booting of originals but will detect a backup and allow booting, implement it for all supported BIOS's and then implement the patching interface in XBtool. It's not like that would be work compared to renaming the executable on your backups. |
This one goes out to teamX but if you know how to do this NghtShd by all means plz do
we know they can imbed stuff into the bios....so what about creating a rule (something like the windows hosts file) where you could specify xboxlive domain 127.0.0.1
so you could either embed that these domains are bad into the bios
or have the bios read it from a "hosts" file from the disk
hacked bios = no live
no one can complaign
I think a combo of the two would be great....
but thats just mho