Post by: mickey797 on February 06, 2008, 09:18:00 AM
Just flashed my BenQ drive to iXtreme1.41 yesterday. A lot of my older backups, ones I did a while ago, like Rainbow Six Vegas, MOH Airborne etcetra are giving "Disc Unplayable - Clean disc with soft cloth". These backups worked fine on my older XBOX 360 (MS25; iXtreme 1.4). I just got a brand new Elite with a BenQ drive.
The newer backups are not giving any problems - neither are originals - only the older backups are giving this problem.
Any clue why?
Post by: Havok on February 06, 2008, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: mickey797 on February 06, 2008, 12:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Havok @ Feb 6 2008, 08:34 PM) 
I think its a media issue... what brand did you use for the older backups..?
Same brand, same burner, same speed - everything exactly the same. There has been absolutely no change whatsoever in anything except the fact that now I'm running a BenQ with iXtreme1.41 - Earlier I was running a Toshiba-Samsung MS25 with iXtreme1.4
I use Verbatim Media, Pioneer DVR-111D Burner, and always burn at 2.4x
The only one thing that's coming to my mind - and I seriously hope this is not it - is that the older backups have a Disc Label on them. I've been using Disc Label's forever - and I've heard about this - that Disc Label's do hurt the media. I just never experienced it before. But I'm not sure if that's it. I do have a backup which isn't that long, 'DiRT', which does have a Disc Label, and it did work fine.
Post by: podger on February 06, 2008, 04:24:00 PM
Post by: mickey797 on February 07, 2008, 08:18:00 AM
8x ... it's horizontal!
Post by: Tk_hom3r on February 07, 2008, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: Toddler on February 07, 2008, 02:28:00 PM
Post by: mickey797 on February 08, 2008, 07:57:00 AM
I have a feeling it's a speed issue too.
I did two of my backups, didn't put a disc label this time - both are working right now. If this problem persists, I might try a different speed. The only thing that concerns me is - if this truly were a Speed issue - why is it that Some backups are working and some are Not. They are all same media, burner, burn-speed.
Post by: podger on February 08, 2008, 08:48:00 AM
FYI
I stopped using labels years ago coz i kept sticking them on badly even with a stomper, they wouldn't play properly in my DVD player at the time... I now use and epson R365 and printable verbs 43572, backups look very cool....
By any chance, did your drive pack it in
Post by: mickey797 on February 08, 2008, 08:53:00 AM
QUOTE(podger @ Feb 8 2008, 05:24 PM)
I now use and epson R365 and printable verbs 43572, backups look very cool....
That is cool!
I really don't know, to be quite honest - cause it could be any of the causes you guys are suggesting. Labels, Speed ... I really don't know. The only thing I do know is, all my newer backups - Label or No Label - seem to be working fine - but all the older backups (All of them unfortunately do have a label, I don't have one without a label to test) ate giving the 'Disc Unplayable' at some point or another in the game.
QUOTE
By any chance, did your drive pack it in
Not quite sure what you mean? 'Pack it in' ?!?
Post by: podger on February 08, 2008, 09:00:00 AM
Post by: mickey797 on February 08, 2008, 09:02:00 AM
QUOTE(podger @ Feb 8 2008, 05:36 PM)
Hang on, Have you checked them with XBC, schrom or mulleter to see if they are properly stealthed???? I was sure you said you had, but checking back it doesn't say it anywhere...
Absolutely 100% stealthed according to XDVDMulleter. Some of my backups failed the "SplitVid" test but passed all the others in XBC. I did patch the "SplitVid" and reburnt the two. However, I honestly don't think the SplitVid would be causing this problem.
Post by: podger on February 08, 2008, 09:05:00 AM
Post by: kurrrrt on February 09, 2008, 10:09:00 AM
kurt
Post by: mickey797 on February 11, 2008, 07:33:00 AM
Thanks guys!
PS: I'm using Verbatim DVD+R DL 2.4x Media, burnt at 2.4x, using Pioneer DVR-111D. Should I be changing any of this?
PSS: Is reflashing done exactly the same as flashing? I used the iPrep method described in Textbook.pdf, using a VIA 6421 SATA Card in my PC. Do I need to deviate at all from the original flashing method while reflashing to a different firmware?
Post by: mickey797 on February 11, 2008, 08:58:00 AM
It Was The Darned Speed!!!!!!
Just flashed to 12x - and All my older backups (with labels) are working fine!! Damn! Just wasted two dual layer discs!! Should have tried the 12x before. WhiteMule & Kurrrrt - Thanks a ton!!
All my backups - new/old/labeled - All are loading & working fine now on 12x.
Damnit! Thing is - I had an MS25 before. When I had flashed it to 12x (which was the recommended at the time) - None of my backups were loading on it - so I had to re-flash it to 8x and everything worked fine.
This time, with a BenQ, I decided to do 8x just because of that. Now it seems 12x works!!
Anyhow - Can't complain - glad I didn't start re-burning ALL my old backups.
Post by: RRoD420 on February 15, 2008, 01:19:00 PM
I no longer use labels it WILL MESS UP YOUR DRIVE.
Post by: pricemeista33 on February 17, 2008, 05:26:00 PM
Thanx
Post by: mickey797 on February 17, 2008, 05:59:00 PM
QUOTE(pricemeista33 @ Feb 18 2008, 02:02 AM)
This will indeed kill your drive over a short period. The drive is not accustomed to spinning with a heavier load.
That does make a lot of sense. I'm going to stop putting labels on burnt media - backups, movies, music or whatever.