Post by: InterestedHacker on December 13, 2005, 12:57:00 PM
How did they read the DVD to start with, I thought it was some weird format, and had major encryption etc? Have they worked out how to read the data off the discs already? The .nfo that accompanies the utility doesn't really explain this in any way, other than they haven't circumvented any protection. If not, how the hell did they get the files?
EDIT: You still can't read original XBOX discs without an XBOX...
This post has been edited by InterestedHacker: Dec 13 2005, 08:58 PM
Post by: jameswalter on December 13, 2005, 03:31:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 03:32:00 PM
obviously xbox1 discs (and now 360 via the same method) could always be read by those with the right hardware and software (none of which is in an xbox)
They didn't explain it for a reason - they don't want you to know.
Post by: scotty2hotty1124 on December 13, 2005, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 04:08:00 PM
Post by: InterestedHacker on December 13, 2005, 03:33:00 PM
QUOTE(scotty2hotty1124 @ Dec 14 2005, 12:22 AM) 
i understand that they dont want us to know.....and that they want to be famous...but this is like the 3rd time ive seen this posted by members here at the scene...if you guys already knew that...why didnt you tell us before so that our own old xbox backups would be easier to do?
From what I have read elsewhere, I think it's not an easy thing to standardise. It appears to me that these guys are modifying the firmware on their DVD drives, to be able to read places that you normally wouldn't look with a standard drive. Because they are doing the changes manually, it likely to be difficult to do, and not easy to standardise on many drives due to differences in hardware at a low level. I might be wrong, but that's what I have pieced together whilst I was waiting for a reply here.
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 04:16:00 PM
Also.. after reading over my last response.. I'm not trying to be rude, but maybe it's time that people realized that they have duped for the last 3.5 years everytime they read "THERE IS NO WAY TO READ A XBOX DISC IN A PC". Nothing was ever stopping anyone else from figuring out how to do it, and the small group of people that did, did not release their info.
Post by: Darren101 on December 13, 2005, 04:51:00 PM
Anybody know how team pi managed to rip the xbox360 games?
It just seems strange, that everybody here has been brainstorming ideas, and they're one step ahead....
Maybe they aren't human
.....
Post by: generalnewbie on December 13, 2005, 04:58:00 PM
hmmm that seems more of how i would go about it being FAMOUS and all...
tisk tisk they are one of the grps that stole a dev kit and are playing with it nothing more nothing less.
I highly doubt a modified firmware is doing the things you all claim
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 05:36:00 PM
Post by: scotty2hotty1124 on December 13, 2005, 05:53:00 PM
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 06:04:00 PM
I am not going to go back and forth trying to defend myself. I stand by my above statements, take it for what its worth....
This post has been edited by heinrich: Dec 14 2005, 02:06 AM
Post by: ViNCe_V on December 13, 2005, 06:05:00 PM
Post by: scotty2hotty1124 on December 13, 2005, 06:12:00 PM
QUOTE
I am not going to go back and forth trying to defend myself. I stand by my above statements, take it for what its worth....
no i believe you, its not like that at all, i was just curious since you seemed to know a lot about it...and i dont expect you to give away any top secrets, but just to be curious...do you know how to do it from the computer?
Post by: 1nick9 on December 13, 2005, 05:46:00 PM
cheers
Post by: heinrich on December 13, 2005, 05:49:00 PM
Post by: lantus on December 13, 2005, 06:29:00 PM
QUOTE(generalnewbie @ Dec 13 2005, 11:29 PM) 
maybe they arent really finding any special way but have DEV kits that allow them to do this anyways
hmmm that seems more of how i would go about it being FAMOUS and all...
tisk tisk they are one of the grps that stole a dev kit and are playing with it nothing more nothing less.
I highly doubt a modified firmware is doing the things you all claim
its true and has been true for years. Whether you chose to believe it is up to you really....
Post by: BlueCELL on December 13, 2005, 07:18:00 PM
Post by: modthebox.tk on December 13, 2005, 08:46:00 PM
...anytime now...
...
Post by: crosseye on December 13, 2005, 09:20:00 PM
Post by: running_wild on December 13, 2005, 09:28:00 PM
The most talented of us will have formed themselves a nice little hack group, each one dedicated to finding the way into the 360. These public XBox-scene forums will not be the first to know about any circumvention - it will be discovered by a private team then revealed when the time is right.
So yeah, we are out of the loop, and its fairly obvious when you look at the forums here. There are lots of suggestions which are shot down fairly quickly with trivial answers. The teams will always be ahead of us, and every time they release a new tool it may as well have been voodoo magic to us as to how they did it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
No disrespect to any of the users here, but I really do think there are people above us working away at the 360 here. If you don't think there are, thats fine, your opinion.
We'll see in the end, but until then -
Keep watching the skies ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
This post has been edited by running_wild: Dec 14 2005, 05:30 AM
Post by: PCBUILDERCHRIS on December 13, 2005, 09:55:00 PM
we cant be blabbing so early ms will turn around and fix this up quick especially since no one is buying the console
oh and hey i heard that the 360 reads the games spinning backwards is this true
Post by: running_wild on December 13, 2005, 10:07:00 PM
The disc doesn't spin backwards.
Post by: CattyKid on December 13, 2005, 10:14:00 PM
QUOTE(PCBUILDERCHRIS @ Dec 13 2005, 11:26 PM)
running wild you are very right
we cant be blabbing so early ms will turn around and fix this up quick especially since no one is buying the console
I bought a 360. Am I nothing to you?
PS: They are only not being bought in Japan.
Post by: Keshire on December 13, 2005, 11:17:00 PM
Post by: Arius on December 14, 2005, 12:32:00 AM
QUOTE(PCBUILDERCHRIS @ Dec 14 2005, 04:26 AM)
oh and hey i heard that the 360 reads the games spinning backwards is this true
That brings back memorys
Post by: Darren101 on December 14, 2005, 02:42:00 AM
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Post by: firefighter1023 on December 14, 2005, 07:33:00 AM
QUOTE(running_wild @ Dec 14 2005, 03:59 AM)
I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist or something of the like, but this will happen very often.
The most talented of us will have formed themselves a nice little hack group, each one dedicated to finding the way into the 360. These public XBox-scene forums will not be the first to know about any circumvention - it will be discovered by a private team then revealed when the time is right.
So yeah, we are out of the loop, and its fairly obvious when you look at the forums here. There are lots of suggestions which are shot down fairly quickly with trivial answers. The teams will always be ahead of us, and every time they release a new tool it may as well have been voodoo magic to us as to how they did it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
No disrespect to any of the users here, but I really do think there are people above us working away at the 360 here. If you don't think there are, thats fine, your opinion.
We'll see in the end, but until then -
Keep watching the skies ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif)
I agree completely. If anything is going to happen, it's not going to be revealed in real time on a public forum. Seems like there are some individuals here that seem to think that if it's not talked about here, it never happens. Seems like I asked a question a while back and someone responded "if we knew how it was done, we would know it here before anyone else", or along those lines. So yea, the true work is being taken care of in the background.
Post by: Deathman on December 14, 2005, 10:36:00 AM
Post by: linflas on December 14, 2005, 10:42:00 AM
Post by: BCfosheezy on December 14, 2005, 10:12:00 AM
QUOTE(CattyKid @ Dec 13 2005, 10:45 PM)
I bought a 360. Am I nothing to you?
PS: They are only not being bought in Japan.
Don't get too worried about whether or not PCBUILDERCHRIS provides you with any information or not. Read his posts and you'll know what I mean.
Post by: tomlarose on December 14, 2005, 10:31:00 AM
QUOTE(Deathman @ Dec 14 2005, 08:07 PM)
ok.. has anyone noticed that every single 1 of the PI dumps are exactly the same size?
Eh.. I don't know what your looking at...
King_Kong_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6157MB 65 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Call_Of_Duty_2_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6898MB 73 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Kameo_Elements_Of_Power_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6758MB 71 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Amped_3_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6793MB 72 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Ridge_Racer_6_USA_XBOX360_PI - (###)( 5200MB 55 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Quake_4_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 4722MB 50 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Gun_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6661MB 70 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Perfect_Dark_Zero_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6256MB 66 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Tony_Hawks_American_Wasteland_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6562MB 69 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Project_Gotham_Racing_3_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6700MB 71 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Fifa_06_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 3881MB 41 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Condemned_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6930MB 73 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Need_For_Speed_Most_Wanted_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 5329MB 56 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Mabye you should stay away from the torrents
Post by: Deathman on December 15, 2005, 04:43:00 AM
QUOTE(tomlarose @ Dec 14 2005, 05:38 PM)
Eh.. I don't know what your looking at...
King_Kong_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6157MB 65 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Call_Of_Duty_2_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6898MB 73 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Kameo_Elements_Of_Power_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6758MB 71 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Amped_3_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6793MB 72 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Ridge_Racer_6_USA_XBOX360_PI - (###)( 5200MB 55 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Quake_4_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 4722MB 50 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Gun_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6661MB 70 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Perfect_Dark_Zero_Pal_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6256MB 66 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Tony_Hawks_American_Wasteland_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6562MB 69 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Project_Gotham_Racing_3_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6700MB 71 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Fifa_06_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 3881MB 41 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Condemned_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 6930MB 73 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Need_For_Speed_Most_Wanted_PAL_XBOX360-PI - (###)( 5329MB 56 files - COMPLETE )(###)
Mabye you should stay away from the torrents (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
Maybe you should check before replying with stupid comments... the sizes you have quoted are the compressed sizes.. try extracting the rars and check the iso size...
all the iso's are 7.02gb
Post by: InterestedHacker on December 15, 2005, 04:54:00 AM
The 'routine' they use to extract these is reading every single byte off the disc, within a frame (eg. start at this sector here, then read everything until this point on layer 2), this frame may well be the useable space on the disc. So when they rip the disc, the file, regardless of whether the game is using all of that space, will be the same size every time. When you zip, the empty unused space will compress and then you get a difference. A nice easy way of checking this is to go spending a couple of hours with a hex editor, paging through the files (the unextracted, but unzipped files!) and looking at the mass amount of 0's in some of the files that compressed well.
This post has been edited by InterestedHacker: Dec 15 2005, 12:56 PM
Post by: Tiros on December 15, 2005, 11:13:00 AM
QUOTE(heinrich @ Dec 13 2005, 10:47 PM)
You are right - they use 1 particular drive.
Also.. after reading over my last response.. I'm not trying to be rude, but maybe it's time that people realized that they have duped for the last 3.5 years everytime they read "THERE IS NO WAY TO READ A XBOX DISC IN A PC". Nothing was ever stopping anyone else from figuring out how to do it, and the small group of people that did, did not release their info.
I believe you.
Let me take a guess on how it works:
A stock xbox drive is used with stock firmware. It is connected to a PC host. There is a host program that controls the drive, certain special ATA commands are used to expose the files, the same way the Xbox reads them. It was noticed quite some time ago that these commands existed, there was a little program floating around that let you send raw ATA commands. Coupled with the disassembly, it was definately going to work. I guess the effort went underground when the real progress occurred.
Post by: TheSpecialist on December 15, 2005, 12:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Tiros @ Dec 15 2005, 06:44 PM)
I believe you.
Let me take a guess on how it works:
A stock xbox drive is used with stock firmware. It is connected to a PC host. There is a host program that controls the drive, certain special ATA commands are used to expose the files, the same way the Xbox reads them. It was noticed quite some time ago that these commands existed, there was a little program floating around that let you send raw ATA commands. Coupled with the disassembly, it was definately going to work. I guess the effort went underground when the real progress occurred.
Exactly, modified firmware isn't even necessary.
In 'normal' mode, a PC dvd drive reports the wrong disc size for a XBOX DVD, so you can't extract sectors that are outside that area (and of course, that's where the game data resides).
The tool they use just sends ATAPI debug commands to alter the drive's idea of the disc size 'on the fly'. After this has been done, you can dump the ISO with normal ATAPI commands.
This post has been edited by TheSpecialist: Dec 15 2005, 08:26 PM
Post by: heinrich on December 15, 2005, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: Tiros on December 15, 2005, 04:47:00 PM
QUOTE(heinrich @ Dec 15 2005, 09:24 PM)
no & no.
So then this info is bogus?
http://www.free60.org/wiki/DVD
Post by: heinrich on December 15, 2005, 05:44:00 PM
Post by: crosseye on December 15, 2005, 10:54:00 PM
This comes straight from your little investigation over at free60:
"The tools which can be used for this are basically the same as for Xbox1, just that the data offset was different there. There are "scene-tools" which are of course so top secret that you never heard about them which can do this. They can be hacked for xbox360 (by just modifiying the read offset), and there you go."
END OF DISCUSSION!
Post by: Monoxboogie on December 15, 2005, 11:42:00 PM
QUOTE(crosseye @ Dec 16 2005, 06:25 AM)
good god people! If you don't know how it works then you don't need to know ok. Quit with the nonsense I just beg you. Deal with the fact that NO xbox is needed, NO FTP, or any other bright ideas you keep pulling out. It's worked for the original xbox, and it holds true for the 360 so just deal with it.
This comes straight from your little investigation over at free60:
"The tools which can be used for this are basically the same as for Xbox1, just that the data offset was different there. There are "scene-tools" which are of course so top secret that you never heard about them which can do this. They can be hacked for xbox360 (by just modifiying the read offset), and there you go."
END OF DISCUSSION!
but w41t d00d; wh4t 1f 1 h4x my b10s l0l0l00l0l0l0l0leleven!
...or not. Man, I feel sorry for you. The only thing more irritating than reading the same conversation take place under several different threads has GOT to be typing the same damn thing on all those threads, only to be ignored by people who couldn't find the "search" button to save their lives. Makes you wonder how they made it to the "expert" forums, eh? ;-)
Post by: hamwbone on December 16, 2005, 12:46:00 AM
that is quite possibly the stupidest thing i have ever read... hope no one ever teaches you ANYTHING!
Post by: FSUNolez336 on December 16, 2005, 12:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Deathman @ Dec 15 2005, 06:14 AM)
all the iso's are 7.02gb
I didn't notice untill now... He's right.
Post by: InterestedHacker on December 16, 2005, 03:32:00 AM
QUOTE(FSUNolez336 @ Dec 16 2005, 09:52 AM)
I didn't notice untill now... He's right.
Yeah, see my reply above as to why!
Post by: deltop on December 16, 2005, 05:34:00 AM
QUOTE(hamwbone @ Dec 16 2005, 09:17 AM)
If you don't know how it works then you don't need to know ok.
that is quite possibly the stupidest thing i have ever read... hope no one ever teaches you ANYTHING!
I've got to agree with this statement now. While is WAS a secret obviously the fewer people who knew the better. But now there is no reason for someone not to give a somewhat detailed overview of how this technique works. Anyone with the relevant technical background could work out the details easily enough anyway just going by with what's been posted so far.
This post has been edited by deltop: Dec 16 2005, 01:34 PM
Post by: shadow77 on December 16, 2005, 08:33:00 AM
QUOTE
Maybe you should check before replying with stupid comments... the sizes you have quoted are the compressed sizes.. try extracting the rars and check the iso size...
all the iso's are 7.02gb
all the iso's are 7.02gb
That's because of garbage data.
For example, the Gamecube, all dumps are the same size if you leave the garbage data in.
This post has been edited by shadow77: Dec 16 2005, 04:35 PM
Post by: Vegita on December 16, 2005, 10:58:00 AM
QUOTE(Deathman @ Dec 15 2005, 12:14 PM)
Maybe you should check before replying with stupid comments... the sizes you have quoted are the compressed sizes.. try extracting the rars and check the iso size...
all the iso's are 7.02gb
good god have you never burnt isos before and noticed they were all the same size?
and do be a little more careful before you call someone stupid, you just end up looking stupid yourself.
Post by: crosseye on December 16, 2005, 11:25:00 AM
Post by: s0ftm0d on December 16, 2005, 04:27:00 PM
/end of rant
Post by: TheSpecialist on December 16, 2005, 04:40:00 PM
QUOTE(s0ftm0d @ Dec 16 2005, 11:58 PM)
Seriously crosseye, you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with some people asking a few questions, esp when the thread was a question to begin with. You are NOT the holy dvd dump king, so stop trying to defend this whole thing. You sit there and bitch about why noone knows how they did it, but oh yes you know i forgot, i did not read 12312 posts that you know. So if your so proud of it, why not tell them and they will stop asking.
/end of rant
I totally agree with crosseye. I explain how it works, Tiros even posts this link: http://www.free60.org/wiki/DVD
and still ppl keep asking how it's been done... Just close this thread ...
Post by: crosseye on December 16, 2005, 06:50:00 PM
QUOTE(s0ftm0d @ Dec 16 2005, 04:58 PM)
Seriously crosseye, you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with some people asking a few questions, esp when the thread was a question to begin with. You are NOT the holy dvd dump king, so stop trying to defend this whole thing. You sit there and bitch about why noone knows how they did it, but oh yes you know i forgot, i did not read 12312 posts that you know. So if your so proud of it, why not tell them and they will stop asking.
/end of rant
you're missing it s0ftm0d. I DID tell them..Several times. Then, they chose to say it was wrong. Someone even pointed to the free60 site wich reaffirmed what I had told them several times. However, they STILL ignored and kept saying it was not correct. In multiple threads this has been discussed and beat to death. The way it is done has been said several times, yet people still persist. My point was I had already told them several times and they continued on. My point was simply, when someone comes in a thread and asks how something is done, don't CONTINUALLY question or say that's probably not the way or, they "might" have done it this way. It was done a specific way and people were told.
Post by: 1nick9 on December 16, 2005, 09:46:00 PM
the games r ripped with a standed pc drive with custom firmware and an nice exe on the pc.
basicly, the has 2 areas on the disc, each has its own toc, put the disc in anything other than an 360 and it will read the 1st 1 which is nothing more than a dvd. put it in ur 360 and it nos wat sectors to look at for the game data and the true toc. now to rip the games on ur pc u need to change ur drives idea of end of disc, done with custom firmware, then the nice lil exe is run to dump the complete disc from the 2nd toc, every single sector and all, this is why there is so much garbage data.
now this wont b extactly how its done but its basics of it, more than likely they use linux and not windows. but im keepin this simple as away for pplz that dont get it to get the picture.
hell they might even make a dummy disc with a toc same to the 360 and swap it it without ejecting the drive so the drive is look at the right sectors.
cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
This post has been edited by 1nick9: Dec 17 2005, 05:51 AM
Post by: Monoxboogie on December 16, 2005, 09:52:00 PM
QUOTE(1nick9 @ Dec 17 2005, 05:17 AM)
ok time to put an end to this bitching.
the games r ripped with a standed pc drive with custom firmware and an nice exe on the pc.
basicly, the has 2 areas on the disc, each has its own toc, put the disc in anything other than an 360 and it will read the 1st 1 which is nothing more than a dvd. put it in ur 360 and it nos wat sectors to look at for the game data and the true toc. now to rip the games on ur pc u need to change ur drives idea of end of disc, done with custom firmware, then the nice lil exe is run to dump the complete disc from the 2nd toc, every single sector and all, this is why there is so much garbage data.
now this wont b extactly how its done but its basics of it, more than likely they use linux and not windows. but im keepin this simple as away for pplz that dont get it to get the picture.
hell they might even make a dummy disc with a toc same to the 360 and swap it it without ejecting the drive so the drive is look at the right sectors.
cheers (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
After the third person explains it, maybe they'll get it....
...great. Now we'll have a few thousand threads of "where can I get the custom firmware for my HP SuperDVD XYZ4000?"
Post by: scotty2hotty1124 on December 16, 2005, 09:56:00 PM
Post by: 1nick9 on December 16, 2005, 09:29:00 PM
QUOTE
i think this is a good question...and i havent seen it asked here yet...since SOME people (not me) know how to use a dvd-rom drive to read the 360 discs in the computer....couldnt they use the same type of firmware on a dvd-rw drive and burn it onto a blank dvd?? would that make a difference seeing as it would now be in the correct "sector" of the disc?
dont really see wat ur gettin at here, the firmware wont make a differents to the way a disc is burnt, all it does is make it so it will read pasted the end of disc, looks at the whole disc and not just wat the toc says, so to speak.
cheers
Post by: Monoxboogie on December 16, 2005, 10:31:00 PM
QUOTE(scotty2hotty1124 @ Dec 17 2005, 05:27 AM)
i think this is a good question...and i havent seen it asked here yet...since SOME people (not me) know how to use a dvd-rom drive to read the 360 discs in the computer....couldnt they use the same type of firmware on a dvd-rw drive and burn it onto a blank dvd?? would that make a difference seeing as it would now be in the correct "sector" of the disc?
Pointless. Once its been ripped, a conventional DVD-RW drive with manufacturer firmware has the capability of burning the raw image to a blank. Just because you lack the necessary tools to do it with doesn't make it impossible. I <3 growisofs.
SPECULATION:
Just for shits and giggles, what happens if you take an image and pop it into an Xbox 1. That is to say, obtain one of the PI dumps, burn it to a DVD, and pop it in the Xbox. I know it wouldn't execute; being of different endianness and of different assembly...but would tools like dvd2xbox read it? Would they perhaps uncover anything that current tools are missing? Just a science project. Not expecting huge results. Anybody want to waste a DVD trying this?
NO MORE SPECULATION.
Post by: jameswalter on December 17, 2005, 12:13:00 AM
Normal PC DVD drive, normal firmware...just a little DVD swap. Tried it myself....works great.
Post by: puregraffix.com on December 17, 2005, 12:51:00 PM
Post by: Tiros on December 18, 2005, 11:16:00 AM
QUOTE(TheSpecialist @ Dec 16 2005, 11:11 PM)
I totally agree with crosseye. I explain how it works, Tiros even posts this link: http://www.free60.org/wiki/DVD
and still ppl keep asking how it's been done... Just close this thread ...
First you and I speculate, Then Heinrich replies: "no & no".
Even after I post that link, and question Heinrich why he says no&no, he comes back with "try it and see"...
He can't just say yea that it's correct?
I think that those "in the know" enjoy this kind of discussion because it gives them a chance to display thier obviously superior knowledge and connections. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Obviously if the information required to do something as simple as this is known only to "insiders" and can't be revealed to the masses, this entire technical section is nothing more than a showplace for egomaniacs to show off what inside information they are privy to, but not reveal it.
BTW:
Good luck with the new no "pure speculation" rules being imposed here.
Might as well just shut the board down!
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/uhh.gif)
Post by: heinrich on December 18, 2005, 11:35:00 AM
Pure speculation:
"lets put a xbox dvd drive in a pc, maybe it will read a game"
not pure speculation:
"i put a xbox dvd drive in a pc, and this is what happened"
Pure speculation:
"omg there is a lpc port, lets install an xecuter3"
not pure speculation:
"This is the pin out of the lpc port, this is where the lad lines lead to, etc"
See the difference? Feel free to PM me or post in the comments forum if you have concerns about any rules or guidelines, posting such things in a random thread is not the proper way to go about it.
Post by: Tiros on December 18, 2005, 11:54:00 AM
QUOTE(heinrich @ Dec 18 2005, 06:06 PM)
If it is as simple as you claim, then where are the released tools to do just that?
The fact that they are not released only serves to make my point.
It is quite clear that those who know do not want to share and those who don't know, can only speculate.
So what is left?
Sorry about the rules comment placement (bad form on my part), I personally would LOVE to see it enforced. If I see one more post about using a game save exploit under emulation, I think I will puke (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
This post has been edited by Tiros: Dec 18 2005, 08:51 PM
Post by: PsiDOC on December 18, 2005, 04:59:00 PM
Lots of speculation on this one isn't there? OK let's get a few facts straight.
1: An Xbox and 360 disk can be ripped using the normal Iso toolz on a PC using Windoze. You just have to modify the firmware in the DVD drive
2: What drive?
Work it out. Some of you "old skool" may have sussed it out already. ****HUGE HINT!*** It was popular a year or so ago for replacing dead Xbox drives after reflashing the firmware with the copyrighted Xbox one.
3: Where is the Firmware for: 1: The Xbox to use the drive & 2: To use in the PC?
1: I don't know. Sorry. Even if I did I cannot tell you as the Xbox firmware (Incl the one in the drives) is copyrighted
2: The modded PC drive firmware is a serious custom job to combine the PC side of things so the drive is actually recognised and then read offsets and aothe unique attributes of the Xbox disc. Also it contains chunks of the copyrighted code. Hence it's not common knowledge where it is, but it's out there somewhere. Remember... a few of us can dissasemble binary code and get it to do what we want.
***Also note*** If you find some firmware be careful: After modding the Drive will NOT I repeat NOT read normal DVDs. Also flashing you drive with an unknown firmware can render it useless!
This post is for information only. No responsibility is taken if you flash you drive with ANYTHING other than a reputed firmware from the drive manufacturer! IE: You want to flash your drive with an MP3 of "Anarchy in the UK" by the Sex Pistols that's up to you, but I am not responsible in any way!
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Post by: mirx999 on December 27, 2005, 03:10:00 PM
Post by: cybertlcworld on December 27, 2005, 10:15:00 PM
QUOTE(mirx999 @ Dec 27 2005, 10:41 PM)
hmm...the 616T/F were pretty popular, as well as the NEC and LG drives....not sure which is compatible with the 360 firmware though...
NEC 3500a
Post by: Tidus_Beta on December 28, 2005, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: Spark on December 28, 2005, 07:13:00 AM