Post by: XPort on July 19, 2004, 12:09:00 PM
For this reason, I've implemented virtual memory into MAMEoX - here are some examples of what's working now:
They all run well with at worst just an occasional hiccup.
I also don't usually make "announcement" posts. I'll just release something when it's done without any warning. However, I need some information from the user community and if I just asked the questions, I'm sure it would not be much of a mystery as to what I was doing.
So, what I need to get is a list of all the games that work in the Windows/DOS version of MAME 0.79 but do not work in MAMEoX 0.79. Most of these are probably the ones that required too much memory, but there are some others that just crashed regardless of how much memory was present (e.g. Tengai).
Yes, I plan on merging in the 0.84 core and yes I'm probably going to look at the lightgun code.
Post by: XPort on July 19, 2004, 12:10:00 PM
Post by: devlkore on July 19, 2004, 12:32:00 PM
Post by: desertboy on July 19, 2004, 01:39:00 PM
Now you have to do this.
Vasara 1 & 2 didn't work on .79 for the xbox (Memory issues)
can't really remember any others as I really haven't touched my xbox in months except for XBMC.
This post has been edited by desertboy on Jul 19 2004, 08:42 PM
Post by: Mephiska on July 19, 2004, 01:40:00 PM
looks like ill finally start playing mame on the xbox now *always did pc, and used xbox for cps1/2,neo*
Post by: c0rderr0y on July 19, 2004, 12:44:00 PM
Post by: Perplexer on July 19, 2004, 12:39:00 PM
Well, there go my profits from RAM upgrades!
This, like all your announcements, is great news!
Post by: noodle1009 on July 19, 2004, 01:45:00 PM
1. make sure the romsets you test work with MAME32 0.79
2. make sure you have the proper bios required
in most cases here we're looking for errors that explicitly state that they're out of memory (malloc failed), or they hard lock mameox after the 'loading complete' or 'ok' screens.
Post by: kimota2004 on July 19, 2004, 12:54:00 PM
What an awesome bit of news, think I just creamed my pants.
Post by: Likklebaer on July 19, 2004, 01:15:00 PM
| QUOTE |
| Yes, I plan on merging in the 0.84 core and yes I'm probably going to look at the lightgun code. |
Hooray for that!
Analogue controls could also do with some fine-tuning. So is this going to be just a one off release or are you intending to continue the MAMEoX project?
Post by: noodle1009 on July 19, 2004, 02:23:00 PM
Since both of my xboxes have 128 MB in them now I need help determining which romsets have problems.
Please, if a rom I listed works with 64 MB, inform me in this thread and I'll update this list.
If I am missing a rom, please inform me and I'll update this list.
THIS IS NOT A COMPLETE LIST! user submitted in bold:
1944
1944j
batrider
blzntrnd
cyvern
dbz
dbz2
ddsom
ddsoma
ddsomj
ddsomjr1
ddsomu
ddsomur1
drifto94
esprade
espradej
espradeo
galpani4
galpanis
galpans2
groundfx
gunbird2
guwange
hotdebut
hyprdelj - back to RAM/ROM check after player 1 start (problem in mame core)
kaiserkj
kaiserkn
kof2000
kof2000n
kof2001
kof97
kof97a
kof98
kof98a
kof98e
kof99
kof99e
kof99n
kof99p
lastblad
lastbld2
lastblda
loderdfa
mmatrix
mmatrixj
msh
msha
mshb
mshh
mshj
mshvsf
mshvsfa
mshvsfa1
mshvsfh
mshvsfj
mshvsfj1
mshvsfj2
mshvsfu1
mslug3
mslug3n
mslugx
mtlchmpj
mvsc
mvsca
mvsch
mvscj
mvscjr1
primrag2
primrage
rbffspec
rungun
rungunu
s1945
s1945ii
s1945iii
s1945j
s1945jn
s1945p
sengekij
sengekis
sengoku3
sexyparo
sf1
sf1jp
sf1p
sf1us
sfa3
sfa3r1
slmdunkj
soldivid
tacscan - possible screenshot problem
tigeroad
vasara
vasara2
vasara2a
viostorm
viostrma
viostrmj
viostrmu
vsav
vsav2
vsava
vsavh
vsavj
vsavu
xmcota
xmcotaa
xmcotah
xmcotaj
xmcotaj1
xmcotajr
xmcotau
This post has been edited by noodle1009 on Jul 20 2004, 05:48 AM
Post by: help or need help on July 19, 2004, 02:29:00 PM
Two games i remember that run out of memory on the xbox are
1. tiger road My favorite
2. Blazing Tornado a wrestling game that was ported to sega saturn
Only two i can thank of right now.
Post by: infidelity on July 19, 2004, 01:36:00 PM
Post by: SNICK! on July 19, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
finally operation wolf and pointblank with the lightgun!!!!!!!!!!!!
cheerz
Post by: deathx88 on July 19, 2004, 01:39:00 PM
Post by: dmb062082 on July 19, 2004, 01:53:00 PM
1 question and 1 comment
i have every mame rom on my xbox (along with chd files) so i will spend a few hours soon testing for memory problems, MY XBOX IS AT MY girlfriends house cuz the broad does not have a devd player!!!! The ones i can recall are.... nm i cant think of any off the top of my head. Other than the obvious ones that are large in size.
Xport are you implementing your own interface, if so kick ass, if not its all good this will be amazing. Thank you ahead of time.
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Post by: XPort on July 19, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
Post by: Prican24 on July 19, 2004, 02:07:00 PM
Post by: wentsen on July 19, 2004, 02:10:00 PM
this is one of the best news i've heard in a long time
Post by: dmb062082 on July 19, 2004, 02:12:00 PM
| QUOTE (kimota2004 @ Jul 19 2004, 10:09 PM) |
Will u be adding the flicker filter option though?  |
Who cares
will vm give us the option to play chd files or no? Also I hope i can replace kawax totaly... i dont want it on my damn list or hard drive if mame can soon play the same damn games. Gunuange does not play on mameox btw..... there is one i thought of that ya can add to the list.
other than the n64 and the snes.... xport is xbox emulation.... where would we be with out him...... granted if his ports were not avalible other coders would have picked some up but still..... this guy is the man.... even if he has no time to eat sleep work or get laid. Take a break and go on vacation after this.... I think you have done enough for a while.
Now the authors of chanka were possibly talking about porting it to the xbox when its highly optomized.... maybe if the source from girgir or what ever becomes more legible maybe it could make a decent xbox port as well..... if this ever happened a long with freedo becoming open source i would no longer need ANYTHING ever again for a few years unless its the xbox2 getting the ability to read xbox 1 xbes like these emus and unleashx..... xport you rock im gonna find some ho to suck your cock.
Post by: noodle1009 on July 19, 2004, 02:20:00 PM
| QUOTE (dmb062082 @ Jul 19 2004, 10:15 PM) |
| Who cares will vm give us the option to play chd files or no? Also I hope i can replace kawax totaly... i dont want it on my damn list or hard drive if mame can soon play the same damn games. Gunuange does not play on mameox btw..... there is one i thought of that ya can add to the list. |
guwange was already on the list. That's what you meant, right?
also, I think you can already play some chd files with mameox, it's just pretty slow. I could load up beatmania at least and it was somewhat playable.
Again, I have 128 MB of memory so I'm not sure if it's the memory that is making the difference there. Please don't get your hopes up for some of those CHD games running well - some don't run well on my AMD 3000+ XP.
Post by: GogoAckman on July 19, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
, BRAVO for this, you did a great job, with all the rumors there has been, I didn t know if VMM mame would be out (someone told me mameox team and lantus had it enabled, but after all, it was too long to do all this and they stopped).
Post by: sammaza on July 19, 2004, 02:22:00 PM
and add another directory for screenshots so we can fit all of them in!!!
XPORT
XPORT
XPORT~!!!!!
Post by: dmb062082 on July 19, 2004, 02:28:00 PM
| QUOTE (kimota2004 @ Jul 19 2004, 10:19 PM) |
Who cares.  |
I CARE...
I was asking him a question about the work he is doing on this emulator, and if it will also free up more memory for chd files, you on the other hand were asking for a request 4 some flicker filter right after he posted about no requests..... so who fucking cares.
Post by: dmb062082 on July 19, 2004, 02:32:00 PM
| QUOTE (noodle1009 @ Jul 19 2004, 10:23 PM) |
| guwange was already on the list. That's what you meant, right? also, I think you can already play some chd files with mameox, it's just pretty slow. I could load up beatmania at least and it was somewhat playable. |
yes that was the game, and its cool that chd files play.... the ones i attempted to play would not load.
Post by: artynerd on July 19, 2004, 02:33:00 PM
Lightgun support, eh? Does this mean the Lethal Enforcer 1+2 and Terminator 2 will be working with gun support? Oh man, THAT would kick ass!
Speaking of implementing things, I've heard mention several times about analog support. I'm assuming this covers things like steering wheels, gas pedals, track balls, and so on, right? I whittled myself a USB to Xbox adapter the other day, and while I was pleased to have my keyboard work, I was surprised to see mouse support was never implemented.
And since you're picking up this project, does that mean you're going to implement all the great Xport options we've come to expect? I've always appreciated the HDTV support
Think about it, Asteroids NEEDS more than 640x480 Pretty much any vector-based game would benefit hugely.Can't tell you enough how much I appreciate this update, Xport. I've recently completed restoring a Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition arcade machine into an Xbox gaming machine, so this new MameOX version will surely be the jewel in its crown! Thanks again Xport, you've made my friends and I a very pleased pack of nerds
Post by: sensible on July 19, 2004, 02:34:00 PM
pray for mojo
Post by: kimota2004 on July 19, 2004, 02:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (dmb062082 @ Jul 19 2004, 10:31 PM) |
| so who fucking cares. |
I CARE...
Post by: chilin_dude on July 19, 2004, 02:44:00 PM
| QUOTE (SNICK! @ Jul 19 2004, 08:38 PM) |
| finally operation wolf and pointblank with the lightgun!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Agreed, when I read
| QUOTE |
| Yes, I plan on merging in the 0.84 core and yes I'm probably going to look at the lightgun code. |
I got more excited about this release than any xbox game or previous release, even more than SURREAL FFS!!! Finally I can use my precious lightgun!!
| QUOTE |
| Lightgun support, eh? Does this mean the Lethal Enforcer 1+2 and Terminator 2 will be working with gun support? Oh man, THAT would kick ass! |
I hope so, we're going to have to make a list of mame GUN games so that I can make a dvd of just them
| QUOTE |
| point blank......................... |
EXACTLY!!!
I'm so extatic, never have I used the mame emus... But this has me all happy
Post by: Prican24 on July 19, 2004, 03:10:00 PM
teminator 2 doesn't use a light gun, the guns in the arcade were actually joysticks (remember operation wolf)
Post by: deathx88 on July 19, 2004, 03:25:00 PM
| QUOTE (Prican24 @ Jul 19 2004, 11:13 PM) |
| teminator 2 doesn't use a light gun, the guns in the arcade were actually joysticks (remember operation wolf) |
i never knew that
that sucks
Post by: Likklebaer on July 19, 2004, 03:41:00 PM
It'd be nice to have the MK games working again at a decent speed.
Post by: Prican24 on July 19, 2004, 03:51:00 PM
Post by: pCeSlAyEr on July 19, 2004, 04:37:00 PM
I wonder how the new core will run on the xbox...
Post by: sammaza on July 19, 2004, 05:04:00 PM
Post by: Prican24 on July 19, 2004, 05:28:00 PM
yes he did mention he'll use 79 but hes better off using the latest 84 core as it adds more games on top of the ones added in 79
Post by: GSBS on July 19, 2004, 06:17:00 PM
One of my biggests turnoffs for Mameox is the UI, which could be easily replaced with the classic we've come to love from you.
Post by: -x- on July 19, 2004, 06:27:00 PM
| QUOTE (GSBS @ Jul 20 2004, 02:20 AM) |
| While he's probably sick of support/feature begging in this topic, PLEASE change the UI to the standard Xport design. One of my biggests turnoffs for Mameox is the UI, which could be easily replaced with the classic we've come to love from you. |
I really really like the MameOX UI it is very cool and functional.
Post by: sammaza on July 19, 2004, 06:46:00 PM
Post by: Juganawt on July 19, 2004, 07:47:00 PM
Just a quick suggestion I'd like to see added to Mame-OX.
As there are now over 4096 games emulated in mame, could you please add multiple Rom Directory Support so I can fit em all on my box? And possibly a flyer / marquee viewer too?
I'm REALLY looking forward to your update of this already cool emu.
Post by: Prican24 on July 19, 2004, 07:48:00 PM
Juganawt you can add them all as is; just edit the mameox.ini in its save folder
Post by: Koitsu on July 19, 2004, 08:07:00 PM
i wish i could help with actual info, but i haven't even touched mameox since 76.1. i've got some catching up to do.
and i would also love the gui. i had all these ideas for skins, but no real reason to do them until now.
Post by: dazdastardly on July 19, 2004, 09:16:00 PM
| QUOTE (static- @ Jul 20 2004, 04:43 AM) |
| Hi Everyone, In an attempt to help contribute a bit to xbox-scene, and assist XPort with this incredible mameox upgrade/modification, I decided to download mame079b.zip and to make a php/mysql based compatibility list particularly for assiting XPort. Perhaps iif everyone uses this to report their results to XPort, it may be easier for him to use. It's very simple, as I really don't have much time. I've got a midterm tomorrow which I haven't even started studying for  My intent was to provide a medium for XPort and xbox-scene to communicate compatability in an easy and cosistent way. http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/ Sorry about the uglyness, I coded it as quickly as I could. I did some quick testing though and it seems more or less solid. It's based off of the MAMEoX compatability list idea, obviously. XPort, if you think this is useful, maybe throw the link on your first post so people can see. If you or others have feature requests, feel free to ask me, maybe I can put them in real quick. Sorry all but I've really gotta get back to studying for this midterm. Best of luck, and I really hope this helps, even if only a bit. Any bugs lemme know. Cheers, static- |
dead impressed... need one of them for each troublesome emu on xbox (MAME, N64 and PCSXBOX)... nice one with the coding, havent tried it yet tho... i might have to actually stay away from it... stuff like that is too complicated for me
Post by: noodle1009 on July 19, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
| QUOTE (Danjuro @ Jul 20 2004, 03:46 AM) |
| Really great news XPort ! To answer your inquiry, I have 3 games that were mysteriously not running in MameOX 0.79 while they work on the PC side : APB (APB.zip) reports missing roms that are nowhere to be found in any set, and the game works fine here. Tac/Scan (tacscan.zip) sometimes freezes if I remember right. It repeatedly freezes (and locks the Xbox) when trying to save a snapshot anyway. The infamous Hyper Duel (hyprdelj.zip) freezes (not locking the Xbox though) right when the actual game is about to start, after choosing your character. Best Regards |
APB loads fine for me, make sure you have a current romset.
I couldn't get my Tac/Scan to freeze, but forgot to check if the screenshot made it freeze. If I'm not mistaken there was a problem with screenies at one time related to the fact that said game was a vector game. I'll put it on the list, but this is neither a hard lock or an OOM problem.
Hyper Duel (hyprdelj.zip) exhibits similar behavior on MAME32 - this romset will load and start, but after the title screen will cycle back to the RAM/ROM check. This is a core bug in MAME. This may be due to the fact that the parent rom (hyprduel.zip) needs redumping, and is marked as non-working. This again is neither a hard lock or an OOM problem, but I will put it on the list.
Post by: sammaza on July 19, 2004, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: noodle1009 on July 19, 2004, 09:44:00 PM
XPort is working on merging in v.84 of MAME into MAMEoX. If you want to play .84 roms, you need the .84 set (and make sure you pick up changes / additions from .79 to .84 as well).
Post by: SpudGunMan on July 19, 2004, 10:20:00 PM
Post by: angrypants on July 19, 2004, 10:29:00 PM
Post by: feflicker on July 19, 2004, 10:33:00 PM
I can't wait for the new version. I have the complete romset for 0.84, minus the games requiring the .CHD's loaded already, so it is just a matter of time now
Thanks again Xport, your emulators are the #1 reason I have an Xbox
Post by: aerofx on July 19, 2004, 11:14:00 PM
Holy smokes, Xport. I don't know how many times it needs to be said but you are the man. Anyway, I pray for a favorites menu. Shifting through all those games makes me dizzy. (yeah I know there is a filter but it's not as great as his favorites menu in his console emus)
Post by: -FourDoor- on July 19, 2004, 11:43:00 PM
Post by: sinnerKILL on July 19, 2004, 11:48:00 PM
But great NEWS
PS Tiger road
Steet Fighter 1
Bubble Bobble Memories
Elevator Action 2(pic)
Rampage World Tour
These dont work would be great to have them going
Post by: soulglo83 on July 20, 2004, 12:05:00 AM
1. i would appreciate a link to where i can donate the $$$ i intended to spend on my ram upgrade to you.
2. failing that, an oath to worship u and no other god for us to chant should suffice.
you fucking rock xport!
Post by: XPort on July 20, 2004, 12:12:00 AM
I do like this DB and I recommend using it :
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
We seem to be straying from the point of the thread, however. The purpose of this thread is to extract information from the user community about what games currently give out-of-memory errors (or just crash) in MAMEoX 0.79.
I'm not changing the UI. I'm not taking ownership of the project. I'm not entertaining feature requests at this time.
Each problematic game has to be defined to use virtual memory if it needs it. If it's not on the list, then it's not going to be supported.
Also, please do refrain from asking for some performance-boosting miracle to occur. If the game runs in MAMEoX, but it doesn't run well, then that's just the way things go. I'm only currently interested in getting games running accurately. I may look into speed optimizations in the future, but definitely not now.
Post by: sonnyz on July 20, 2004, 12:18:00 AM
The #1 game i always wanted to play on my xbox is Revolution X and i think its one that wont run cuz of memory.
Damn u rock Xport, where did u learn to code? cuz thats where i wanna go!!!!
I cant wait to see what u can do with xbox2(if it can be hacked, i thought anything could be hacked till the gamecube came along, hope M$ realizes how much the xbox1 being hacked helped it grow.)
Post by: debeautar on July 20, 2004, 12:24:00 AM
Xport, the only reason why we hope for your brilliance is because we know it's there. Feature requests and Xport-staples are perhaps too easy NOT to think about.
I hope we don't bother you further.
Go on. Quietly. Big stick, dude. Knock it all down.
Yeah
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 20, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
EDIT
oh and whoever requested more rom directory... look in the damn options
Post by: sammaza on July 20, 2004, 12:55:00 AM
everyone shuold get on here and post feedback....
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
I got the "R" section covered
EDIT -
Racin` force - konami - 1994 is not in the list it works in windows but not on xbox ...it gives malloc error*
other than that the "R" section is done
Post by: billforsale on July 20, 2004, 01:05:00 AM
Post by: stezo2k on July 20, 2004, 01:27:00 AM
virtual memory sounds great, just what mame needs really, a lot more games should be compatible now
the screens look nicekeep up the good work
Post by: sammaza on July 20, 2004, 01:57:00 AM
please contribute to the list!!
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
Thanks to all who contribute
Post by: sammaza on July 20, 2004, 02:11:00 AM
thanx
Post by: antiflag1980 on July 20, 2004, 02:22:00 AM
Post by: LezlieX on July 20, 2004, 02:34:00 AM
Crashes after loading in my MAMEoX 0.79, but works in MAME32 0.79. Not because out of memory, just a black screen.
Post by: EDevil on July 20, 2004, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: cartelli on July 20, 2004, 02:41:00 AM
Thankyu
Post by: kimota2004 on July 20, 2004, 03:16:00 AM
Post by: sammaza on July 20, 2004, 03:21:00 AM
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
please keep reporting games that give malloc out of memory errors in mameox .79.1b
Thank you
Post by: HK$ on July 20, 2004, 04:04:00 AM
| QUOTE (Opoth @ Jul 20 2004, 12:53 AM) |
| The Beatmania games had some strange issues in .79 that may have been memory related (they won't even load in later versions) where part of the bottom portion of the screen was blacked out. I'd really like to see these working properly in MAMEoX since there were not home versions released for the final 2 mixes (they aren't supported in MAME yet either, but I'm sure they will in another year or so) I remember asking about these awhile back, did anyone ever test them on a 128 meg X-Box? |
I've tried beatmania's on my 128M XBOX. And they have the same problem. So I think it's not memory related. I hope xport can fix this too
Post by: arallsopp on July 20, 2004, 04:11:00 AM
| QUOTE (Juganawt @ Jul 20 2004, 03:50 AM) |
| As there are now over 4096 games emulated in mame, could you please add multiple Rom Directory Support so I can fit em all on my box? |
MameOx already has this facility. Check your settings / version. I think its called Roms, more roms, even more roms, or something...
Or I'm absolutely wrong.
Post by: joshwaan2k on July 20, 2004, 04:54:00 AM
oh btw with this implementation of Virtual Memory, would that make MK 1 and 2 and 3 work faster?
Just that I always wanted to play the arcade perfect games on tv with me mates
Post by: stevey5036 on July 20, 2004, 06:23:00 AM
now i dont have to drag out the old dreamcast to play marvel vs * games! we love you xport.
Post by: jizzlobber on July 20, 2004, 06:54:00 AM
awesome news BTW!
Post by: synchro on July 20, 2004, 06:57:00 AM
Do you ever sleep......Or do you look like a Borg with a PC strapped to your head ????
I dont care either way
JUST INCREDIBLE !!!!!
Post by: Heet on July 20, 2004, 06:59:00 AM
Your the best dude. Lightgun? Im pinching myself.
Post by: jubilex on July 20, 2004, 08:20:00 AM
Huge props to Xport, but let's also not overlook the incredible contributions eabair has made to getting MAMEoX off the ground in the first place.
Post by: k1114 on July 20, 2004, 08:35:00 AM
Post by: XboX-ZERO on July 20, 2004, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: psxpirate1 on July 20, 2004, 09:00:00 AM
It's very easy to do.. just click on the xbox section and click and pick if that particular game works or not.. I'll be posting my results all day.. I hope more people contribute also. Happy testing guys!
Post by: namek0 on July 20, 2004, 09:21:00 AM
I'm so freakign happy to hear about the virtual memory addon, and most of all the light gun support! This could give me an excuse to finally buy one.
Any word on the Raiden games for mame?
The second I get home (which is hours and hours away from now) I'm going to "test" the shit out of a ton of mame games for memory errors. I'll probably just start in the R's or something and work my way down.
Post by: leafsfanatic on July 20, 2004, 09:29:00 AM
Post by: prplehz on July 20, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: psxpirate1 on July 20, 2004, 09:33:00 AM
Post by: namek0 on July 20, 2004, 10:09:00 AM
Post by: infidelity on July 20, 2004, 10:13:00 AM
lol
Post by: julio9 on July 20, 2004, 10:41:00 AM
Post by: chilin_dude on July 20, 2004, 11:44:00 AM
Post by: Kthulu on July 20, 2004, 12:02:00 PM
seriously, you are not the man...you are a god
thanks!
Post by: zot23 on July 20, 2004, 12:18:00 PM
Eagerly awaiting the release...
Post by: Kontra on July 20, 2004, 12:34:00 PM
Post by: sammaza on July 20, 2004, 02:04:00 PM
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
please continue to check it and report games that run fine in mame .79 on windows but give "malloc out of memory" errors on xbox..this will help xport focus on those games and complete the project faster and better.....
Thank you
Post by: Antiriad on July 20, 2004, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: gamemaster14 on July 20, 2004, 03:11:00 PM
Power Instinct 2 (pwins2)
Pretty Sodier Sailor Moon (sailormo+sailormn)
| QUOTE |
| Im not sure if it is possible, but Id love to see Radiant Silvergun working in Mame. |
Even if it was working on xbox I doubt any Sega Titan Video Arcade games would run anywhere near full speed since xbox is just too slow. PLus the game doesnt work properly in the latest beta of mame
Post by: corkinator on July 20, 2004, 04:14:00 PM
Is there any way to hold F2/F3 (from the PC Mame) to skip/fix the EEPROM thingy for bad reports? For example, Run N Gun (rungun) won't load on PC (reported as a bad EEPROM) but if you hold F2 during the boot up it runs perfect now.
Anyone know?
Cheers! :)
Post by: xdank- on July 20, 2004, 04:27:00 PM
Post by: xboxexpert on July 20, 2004, 05:34:00 PM
Post by: VampX on July 20, 2004, 06:43:00 PM
| QUOTE (xboxexpert @ Jul 21 2004, 03:30 AM) |
| get tekken and all the samurai showdowns to work ;-) |
Tekken would still run like crap unless you have a dreambox upgrade,
as for Samurai Shodown.. isnt FBA-XXX sufficent enough anymore?
Post by: EBear on July 20, 2004, 06:55:00 PM
Post by: static- on July 20, 2004, 06:53:00 PM
Thanks to everyone who's updated the mamedb list so far. XPort will no doubt find this helpful for the project.
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
Lots of games have been marked! Keep it up!!!
Cheers,
static-
Post by: RoadDogg on July 20, 2004, 07:25:00 PM
Post by: dokworm on July 20, 2004, 08:47:00 PM
Post by: billforsale on July 20, 2004, 09:14:00 PM
Such as games made by snk, capcom, sega etc..... I'm sure he knows which ones those are.
Either way I did update that list with around 100 titles that I know for a fact don't work on the xbox.
Post by: splattered on July 20, 2004, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 20, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
Dont do this from memory.
I just fixed a whole bunch that were tagged as crashing in game, or OOM that work purfectly fine
Please people... the quality of the database depends completely on the data put in
Post by: pCeSlAyEr on July 20, 2004, 09:36:00 PM
NOTHING EVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THIS BEING RELEASED!!! CALM DOWN!!! HE ONLY SAID HE'S WORKING ON IT!!!! IT'LL BE DONE WHEN ITS DONE!!!
wow... I swear people cant read or something... or get over anxious...
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 20, 2004, 11:26:00 PM
OOM that dont have entries in the database
hthero95
hthro95u
opengolf
lockload
racinfrc
Roms with MAME Probs (mame core issues)
drivedge
fghthist
Working (not in database)
dsoccr94
gslgr94
gundl94
kamovr
hgirl94
kof94
tickee
Crash on boot
intcup94 - Crashes when 'cannot start audio emulation' pres any key to continue
Lightgun games (some dont boot so im jsut pretty sure they are)
le2
le2u
lockload
opwolf3u
opwolf3
ptblank
revx (slow though... )
tickee
taking quite a while..
if someone takes on another year let me know otherwise ill start on 95 when im done
Post by: sammaza on July 21, 2004, 12:34:00 AM
Thanks for your efforts on the list...tomorow i will go from 2004-backwards to 1995
please continue to update the list with your games that give "malloc out of memmory errors so that Xport can fix them...
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/ <---- the list!!!!
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 21, 2004, 12:47:00 AM
perhaps if anyone is interested ill be in #mamox (thats a letter O not a zero) on efnet
Post by: kimota2004 on July 21, 2004, 02:09:00 AM
Another 2 I just updated at the list:
Mahou Daisakusen
Shippu Mahou Daisakusen
Both play slow with frameskip issues. Mahou Daisakusen dosn't slow up till about the 3rd level.
Post by: ThE MaSTeR 3 on July 21, 2004, 02:16:00 AM
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 21, 2004, 02:26:00 AM
read the bloody thread
I completed all 1994 roms
that took me ~7.5hrs
ghey
EDIT
oh just checked dimahoo
did i mark it as working?
sry bout that...
must have loaded the wrong rom or something
Post by: kimota2004 on July 21, 2004, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: 0123456 on July 21, 2004, 04:17:00 AM
Also, would love to find a PC based MAME sorting program that would let me delete ROMs based on genre/year etc...
Post by: sammaza on July 21, 2004, 05:10:00 AM
Post by: VampX on July 21, 2004, 06:24:00 AM
| QUOTE (0123456 @ Jul 21 2004, 03:34 PM) |
| But there are only so many porn games from 1977 that you need |
You can NEVER have enough porn games!
Post by: XPort on July 21, 2004, 07:57:00 AM
First, if at all possible, you never want to use virtual memory. It should be avoided using any means necessary. Virtual memory is just that : virtual. The information has to be stored somewhere else than real, physical memory. In this case, as is the case with practically every other app, the information gets stored on the hard drive. Reading/writing to/from physical memory is a lot faster than reading/writing to/from the hard drive.
Virtual memory does not add physical memory to your XBox. It does not make games run faster. Quite the contrary, it makes them run slower. Most of the ones I've worked on (noted by the screenshots) work with barely a hiccup in performance, but they can take quite a while to load. The benefit is that you can actually play games that you could not before.
So, to sum up :
- Virtual memory is bad - use it only if you have to
- Virtual memory is hard drive space ; it is not physical memory
- Virtual memory does not make games run faster
- Virtual memory makes games run slower
The sole purpose of virtual memory is to allow games that give "out of memory" errors to load successfully.
Post by: XPort on July 21, 2004, 10:23:00 AM
The VMM settings are stored in a plain text file which can be updated and re-distributed so as to avoid downloading a new, recompiled binary.
Furthermore, end-users will be able to manually force VMM settings for games that are not supported OOTB. If you come across a game that did not make the initial cut, you can fiddle with the options until it loads and then add the information to the text file.
I'm asking people to report OOM games because I'm offering to setup as many as possible before the new release. If people don't want to take the time to note them, then they'll have to fiddle with them themselves instead of having something that "just works".
Also note, however, that if too many people just blindly add games to the database as "out of memory" without actually checking them, then I may become frustrated and just stop adding game settings to the VMM file. So think and test carefully before you decide something like, "I really want this game to work - I'll just add it to the list, willy-nilly."
Post by: c0rderr0y on July 21, 2004, 10:26:00 AM
Post by: JDay on July 21, 2004, 11:22:00 AM
Edit: Is it all right if I mark "loads up and shows screens" as "working" I don't feel like playing through all these to see if they're slow or crash in game. Otherwise, I'll just mark the OOM/crash while loading.
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 21, 2004, 12:01:00 PM
I didnt play though any games, i let them boot, and enter the game to check for gfx corruption... I've also been noting mame core problems in the comments.such as
video is not 100% or sound does not work
Anything that appears to be mame0x related i mark as 'crash on boot'
anything that is emulation/mame specific is marked as 'crash in game'
i also tag games that (according to mame) 'game does not work properly' as 'crash in game' so that they will be tagged as 'not working' when we convert the database to a mameox working/frameskip/nonworking table
xport may be able to fix crash on boot but he wont be able to touch crash in game.
thnx again for the hard work xport
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 21, 2004, 12:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (c0rderr0y @ Jul 21 2004, 06:29 PM) |
| any way to turn off the virtual memory so the other games that dont need it wont use it? |
Thats what everyone should be doing now...
we are going through all the roms and tagging which ones have 'out of memory' errors so that VMM can be enabled for each one
Games that dont require it wont use it
Post by: sammaza on July 21, 2004, 01:38:00 PM
thanx
Post by: Prican24 on July 21, 2004, 05:35:00 PM
Post by: ruffian on July 21, 2004, 05:47:00 PM
assault
valkyrie
Both run out of memory.
Excellent idea XPORT, I commend you for your efforts. This out-of-memory thing was the whole reason I avoided arcade emu on xbox.
Looks like that's about to change.
I will do my damndest to add to the malloc fail list...I suggest we all get to testing and help XPORT out on this!
Post by: sammaza on July 21, 2004, 07:29:00 PM
this is gonna be so cool
Post by: Loto_Bak on July 21, 2004, 09:03:00 PM
| QUOTE (sammaza @ Jul 22 2004, 03:32 AM) |
| i got mame .84 with all chds not 1 missing rom clrmame'd and on the xbox waiting !!! this is gonna be so cool |
you should help out in the database insted of blowing your load in your pants over some software
Post by: sammaza on July 22, 2004, 01:07:00 AM
Post by: The Noob on July 22, 2004, 01:29:00 AM
| QUOTE (ThE MaSTeR 3 @ Jul 22 2004, 05:47 AM) |
| Hey Xport you should get in touch with Lantus and oDD and have Surreal V2 and Mameox Resurrection come out on the same day. I always wanted 2 have multiple orgasms |
Eww...
I've added four or five games to the malloc list. Everything else I've tried has been altered already, which must be a good sign (although I don't have a large rom set.)
Post by: stevey5036 on July 22, 2004, 06:26:00 AM
http://www.digitalhosting.ca/mamedb/
there it is. keep it up!
Post by: Prican24 on July 22, 2004, 11:53:00 AM
plain and simple: if mame team doesn't add it, then it won't get supported
Post by: Prican24 on July 22, 2004, 06:06:00 PM
2001 games are starting to be added (gunbarich and vasara 2 was added in 84u3) but still none of the neogeo games as of yet (mslug4, kof2001, zupapa, sengoku3, and a few others)
Post by: sammaza on July 22, 2004, 08:05:00 PM
Post by: Bahn Yuki on July 22, 2004, 09:50:00 PM
Post by: lantus on July 22, 2004, 10:01:00 PM
| QUOTE (sammaza @ Jul 23 2004, 03:08 AM) |
| dude.....the reason those other emus were ported was because of no vmm for mame...Xport is fixing that...he is making mameox what it should be the all in 1 arcade emu.... |
dude, get a clue
Post by: xFusioNx on July 22, 2004, 10:49:00 PM
| QUOTE (Lightsier @ Jul 22 2004, 09:31 PM) |
| Oh boy, people are already asking about playing the few SNK games that don't work on the newest version of Mame? Isn't there already enough hacked emulators out there that do that already? You can never satisfy some people. |
Dude, I could care less. I thought this thread was about posting games that have Mem Alloc errors. Those are some of them.
Maybe if you read the thread from begining to end you'd know that.
Post by: Iriez on July 22, 2004, 10:55:00 PM
| QUOTE (lantus @ Jul 22 2004, 11:04 PM) |
| dude, get a clue |
dude...man......dude-man.
C'mon lantus, we all know the only reason fba-x was released was because Xport was fiddling with twizzlesticks instead of writing paging routines for mameox.
Post by: Prican24 on July 23, 2004, 12:23:00 AM
| QUOTE (xFusioNx @ Jul 23 2004, 01:52 AM) |
| Dude, I could care less. I thought this thread was about posting games that have Mem Alloc errors. Those are some of them. Maybe if you read the thread from begining to end you'd know that. |
if you did read it, it was refeing to mame 79 which i say again doesn't include banned games so you are still wrong
Post by: JDay on July 23, 2004, 01:25:00 AM
King of Fighters '97, The (kof97, kof97a)
Pop 'N Pop (popnpop, popnpopj, popnpopu)
And the following games I could not run due to incompatible romsets or not having the chds on my xbox. I'd appreciate it if someone could check them out:
Beastorizer (beastrzr, beastrzrb)
Bio Freaks (biofreak)
Puchi Carat (pichicar)
Justice Gakuen (jgakuen)
NFL Blitz (blitz)
Post by: sparks on July 24, 2004, 01:11:00 AM
Post by: {{DEMON}} on July 24, 2004, 03:10:00 AM
IRC (EFNET) might be a place to start.
a Place called Xbox BINarieS might also be a place to start.
Pay attention to the Capital lettters in that word.
Channels on IRC help. Again pay attention to the letters that are capitalized.
Newsgroups are another place.
TOrents are another
FTP's are another.
But dont ask for it here NOONE WILL HELP you.
{{DEMON}}
Post by: dakidski on July 24, 2004, 06:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (Bahn Yuki @ Jul 23 2004, 05:53 AM) |
| I just hope Xport uses his trademark interface that I've really grown to love! |
Its functional, I will give it that much... But 'grown to love' was perhaps sarcasm? I mostly heard people bitch about how much they hate that interface
I sure hope they wont change the interface of mameox to that of xport....
Post by: chilin_dude on July 24, 2004, 07:16:00 AM
| QUOTE (dakidski @ Jul 24 2004, 01:33 PM) |
| Its functional, I will give it that much... But 'grown to love' was perhaps sarcasm? I mostly heard people bitch about how much they hate that interface I sure hope they wont change the interface of mameox to that of xport.... |
I disagree, Xports interface is the best
Post by: retrohead on July 25, 2004, 07:18:00 PM
Nice one Xport
What happened to the screenshots? can we have the old display back? and can we have multiple folders for screenshots please as my screenshot folder is full, don't know about yours
Anyways im not moaning just suggesting
CHEERS MATE!
Post by: Mephiska on July 25, 2004, 07:38:00 PM
| QUOTE (Iriez @ Jul 23 2004, 02:58 AM) |
| dude...man......dude-man. C'mon lantus, we all know the only reason fba-x was released was because Xport was fiddling with twizzlesticks instead of writing paging routines for mameox. |
5/5
best post of this thread.
Post by: Enkak on July 25, 2004, 08:21:00 PM
About Sengeki, it takes a little to load on my PC (1.2ghz athlon), so it probably takes even more to load on Xbox or its a problem on the vm settings on the txt
Not sure, its a 15mb rom and takes a while to load, so could be an issue with vm for now (i saw its not on the vm,txt by default. I will test it better later on my xbox, almost 4.am, time to sleep. 
Post by: hosh on July 26, 2004, 03:30:00 AM
| QUOTE (Enkak @ Jul 26 2004, 04:24 AM) |
| Raiden Fighters don't work properly on PC MAME, so don't expect it to work on MAMEoX. Again, roms that don't work properly there wont work on Xbox too, so its a good idea always to check what happens on MAME32 for PC. About Sengeki, it takes a little to load on my PC (1.2ghz athlon), so it probably takes even more to load on Xbox or its a problem on the vm settings on the txt Not sure, its a 15mb rom and takes a while to load, so could be an issue with vm for now (i saw its not on the vm,txt by default. I will test it better later on my xbox, almost 4.am, time to sleep. |
Thanks for the info, but.. The sole reason I'm even using Xbox emulators is that my PC is old. I can't check for myself. But that's too bad about Raiden Fighters, oh well.
Sengeki Striker isn't taking a long while to load, it is freezing. You can't Back+Start to quit, or do anything at all. It's not a VM setting as know how to work them no, the harddrive even stopped reading/writing as well. It just sat there.
Post by: djboogie on December 29, 2004, 12:28:00 AM
Chill out dude, and have a guiness
Post by: badmonkey on December 29, 2004, 07:22:00 AM
QUOTE
loto-
Chill out dude, and have a guiness
Chill out dude, and have a guiness
Learn to look at the dates on threads. You bumped a 5 month old thread to tell some one to chill out. I think it is safe to assume that, by the thread's 5 month dormancy, he had in fact chilled by now.
Post by: stevie_mac on December 29, 2004, 06:28:00 PM
(but I'd prolly get banned 
)BTW, I suspect (as badmonkey says) his indeed chilled out!
Post by: stevey5036 on December 29, 2004, 07:58:00 PM