Post by: Xbox-Scene on June 06, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
Devil 360: Modchip for the Xbox 360-- Posted by XanTium on June 6 21:21 EST
We received this news today from the Devil360 Team:
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Our server is currently down due the huge amount of hits we received yesterday. We will move to more powerful servers and we hope to be back online tomorrow.
The Devil360 will be a modchip for the Xbox 360 console, the 'small' security hole has been found! This device is in no way related to the DVD firmware exploits - it's a totally different approach.
However we did not manage to get the product ready for today (6/6/6), because we are working hard on improving it to:
* Try to protect it from any type of update
* Make it programmable via PC
* Boot unsigned code
* Allow to swap HD with larger drive with a special interface between the 360 and the HD (all types IDE/SATA).
* And more...
We understand, certainly after the ICE modchip story, that people will not easily believe this so we will send prototypes to some scene sites as soon as they are ready, so they can confirm it's real.
The modchip will be sold without any code.
We also discovered some shops already take pre-orders for this product. Do not pre-order it!
We did not announce any distributors yet and the device will not go on pre-order until at least after the prototypes have been tested/reviewed by independent sites.
Official Site: http://www.devil360.com (currently down)
Post by: Pasoa2021 on June 06, 2006, 06:30:00 PM
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Post by: puffdank on June 06, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
Post by: pakman21 on June 06, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
how typical, and I hope they don't spam people's emails with their worthless bullshit.
Post by: ybaig123 on June 06, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Pasoa2021 @ Jun 7 2006, 12:37 AM) 
bla bla bla we are full of shit bla bla bla
retard ..give ppl a chance.
Post by: nachomans on June 06, 2006, 06:32:00 PM
Sure! Ordering a fake product is a big problem... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
Post by: wdew123 on June 06, 2006, 06:33:00 PM
what a suprise
Post by: WildMonkeys on June 06, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
Post by: pakman21 on June 06, 2006, 06:35:00 PM
i hope people boycott their hardware, it seems that if they can't even get their website running, wot makes them think people will take them serious? Some other group will released something better, all the more reason not to waste money on this useless crap.
in a couple months there will be plenty of merchants selling modchips. i have no interest sending them my business and I hope people heed the warning and do the same.
devil360 = incompetent pricks.
Post by: Xavierking on June 06, 2006, 06:36:00 PM
Post by: Thyatis on June 06, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
let along a new security system.
Post by: yourM0M on June 06, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
Post by: Eraser77 on June 06, 2006, 06:37:00 PM
We'll wait and see as this unfolds... but again, I have my doubts.
Post by: VOlition on June 06, 2006, 06:40:00 PM
Post by: Staple on June 06, 2006, 06:42:00 PM
maybe ill make a site xs can pump up for me
Post by: KILLplaystation on June 06, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
Post by: juanman on June 06, 2006, 06:43:00 PM
Post by: ClintiePoo on June 06, 2006, 06:44:00 PM
Post by: pakman21 on June 06, 2006, 06:45:00 PM
I wouldnt be surprised if Xecuter comes out with a modchip prior..
whoop de woo. I knew they were hyping up a mod chip, I just didnt know that they were dumb enough to start this whole fiasco prematurely prior to having a working product.
Post by: Jail Bird on June 06, 2006, 06:45:00 PM
BULL FUCKIN SHIT
Post by: TeamDevil on June 06, 2006, 06:45:00 PM
Post by: decapkris on June 06, 2006, 06:46:00 PM
Post by: thegame4ever on June 06, 2006, 06:46:00 PM
Let's wait till tomorrow, and if the site is still down, then it's a fake, but i believe it's up, something right about these guys.
And unsigned code = Xbox360MediaCenter
Hope for the best you pessimists
Post by: keystroke on June 06, 2006, 06:46:00 PM
the site looks like it's been done by a 13 year old.
Post by: Salvinor on June 06, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
what a big FAKE!
and they can't even keep their empty website online.
Post by: flashfreak on June 06, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
Post by: zerodefect on June 06, 2006, 06:51:00 PM
Post by: XanTium on June 06, 2006, 06:53:00 PM
QUOTE(keystroke @ Jun 7 2006, 02:53 AM)
Xbox-Scene are a huge dissapointment today, by promoting more fake products (hello, ICE and Devil360) it brings their credibility down immensly.
the site looks like it's been done by a 13 year old.
small correction here ... we never posted about ICE (unlike many other sites) and what-ever 'hello' is.
The only news article about the ICE modchip was a post with detailed info about why it was all fake.
Post by: Eraser77 on June 06, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Jun 7 2006, 02:00 AM)
small correction here ... we never posted about ICE (unlike many other sites) and what-ever 'hello' is.
The only news article about the ICE modchip was a post with detailed info about why it was all fake.
Sweet, we may have something then!
I REALLY hope we dont get BS'ed again...
Post by: Faster80 on June 06, 2006, 06:54:00 PM
Post by: Mysoundhurts on June 06, 2006, 06:56:00 PM
prove me wrong, i will put my foot in my mouth and write an apoligy if i see it released within 2 months, on top of that I will purchase one.
Post by: Sord_Fish on June 06, 2006, 06:56:00 PM
Plus I cant see whats the big deal about unsigned code until there is an xdk for the 360 for people to code with, all we can do it boot backups.
XanTium surely they've let you into somthing worth while otherwise you'd treat this like the ice thing. Can you not spill the beans or is it A "Need to know basis?"
Post by: irishdrunk on June 06, 2006, 06:57:00 PM
Boot unsigned code???? wow...
I'll eat my boot if this thing is legit
Post by: Nathan561 on June 06, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
QUOTE
we are working hard on improving it to:
* Try to protect it from any type of update
* Make it programmable via PC
* Boot unsigned code
* Allow to swap HD with larger drive with a special interface between the 360 and the HD (all types IDE/SATA).
* And more...
* Try to protect it from any type of update
* Make it programmable via PC
* Boot unsigned code
* Allow to swap HD with larger drive with a special interface between the 360 and the HD (all types IDE/SATA).
* And more...
Umm.. so what the fuck DOES it do!?
Post by: Eraser77 on June 06, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
QUOTE(Faster80 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:01 AM)
Why couldn't they have waited untill the product was completed, sent prototypes to scene sites to review it, then, scene sites anounce a working xbo360 mod-chip. Instead making asses out of themselves by planning the release of a product nowhere near completion because they want to release it on "the day of the beast". Shows what type of people they are, whether the chip is real or not.
Their trying to be cool... 6-6-6
Post by: EvanVanVan on June 06, 2006, 07:01:00 PM
QUOTE(pakman21 @ Jun 7 2006, 01:42 AM)
all the more reason to just wait until someone competent releases a modchip.
i hope people boycott their hardware, it seems that if they can't even get their website running, wot makes them think people will take them serious? Some other group will released something better, all the more reason not to waste money on this useless crap.
in a couple months there will be plenty of merchants selling modchips. i have no interest sending them my business and I hope people heed the warning and do the same.
devil360 = incompetent pricks.
your post really doesnt make sense...you have no interest sending them your buisness and want people to boycott their hardware but if their hardware does actually work which is the only way they would get any buisness it may be the only mod chip out with those features for a long time...every modchip team had to start someplace...when team xecuter started with the modchip they were a nobody group, the only difference is that modchips had already been made so they knew a little more about them, but the first version of the xecuter chip didnt have anywhere near as mean features as the x3 pro thats come out several years ago, what like 5 or 6?
Post by: d0ck on June 06, 2006, 07:01:00 PM
I'm in favor of devil360 and hopefully they actually do get a product out. But if they don't it never hurt none of us, doesn't make our money, it don't pay our bills,so why care or get pissed if someone has no life and spends hours writing, html,css, and doing graphics to fool people.
Post by: bubbathemaster on June 06, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
They could have came up with PCB prototypes, screenshots of their work, whatever. They should have came up with a proof of their work because they do know people are talking shit on their back.
They didnt. All that's left is : "Devil360 is a modchip. Just wait."
Woot... Seriously...
Post by: General_Zod on June 06, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
QUOTE(Eraser77 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:05 AM)
Their trying to be cool... 6-6-6
They failed.
I'm only jumping all over them because they made it sound like the world will change when they announce this big annoucement today only to have the whole thing a "yeah we hacked it. Hopefully someday soon we'll release it" downer. If it turns out to be real, that would be great! But they really did an absolutely horrible job getting customers to believe them by not following through on a first impression.
I also want thank the Scene for keeping us up to date on it all. They are reporting the breaking news as they get it and if it turns out to be fake they'll be the first to let us know.
Post by: blue45 on June 06, 2006, 07:03:00 PM
. As for the person that said all the 06/06/06 stuff is fake, i got news for you! My XBMC 360 update with the new xbox 360 skins works flawlessly as my new xbox dashboard. You can get all the files on channel #xbins on the efnet server. Trust me its WORTH IT! Customize your own Wall Paper! Best thing I have seen in a long time!!!!!
Post by: snow rider221 on June 06, 2006, 07:04:00 PM
QUOTE(sup191 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:04 AM)
It's funny how all the nay-sayers will be the first in line to throw money down on this chip. (if it ever comes to be). Why all the negativity? Sure it could be a hoax, but what else out there other than the firmware hack is there? This is the only ray of light that shows a little promise. I won't get my hopes up, but I'll not bash the crap out of Devil360 unless they pull a Duke Nuken Forever. I remember how much "Bunnie" was bashed when he said he hacked the original Xbox. Look what happened there... Devil360 has not asked for any donations or money. (to my knowledge) None of you are losing anything if it happens not to work out. I'm guessing the new Live update might have thrown a little dip into their plans. Reguardless, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Relax. The 360 will be hacked eventually. Until then, I'm going back to Uno for a bit. (yeah, I'm hardcore)
amen to that, uno that is !!!
no but i really like how you put it, all these guys are throwing shit at a site that they have no idea wether its legit or not... they have as much evidense that it COULD be a real modchip, as they do that it couldn't, yet they still BS the site being the pesimists they most certaintly are.
Post by: Ed_209 on June 06, 2006, 07:09:00 PM
QUOTE(Devil 360 @ Jun 7 2006, 01:59 AM)
We understand, certainly after the ICE modchip story, that people will not easily believe this so we will send prototypes to some scene sites as soon as they are ready, so they can confirm it's real.
These people must be legit because they are saying they are going to send out prototypes for review before any more "hype" builds up... If they were trying to con people they definitely wouldn't be linking directly to xbox-scene from their website. If you wanted to con people you would be linking to shady as hell websites that will say anything as long as you bribe them enough, and asking for as many pre-orders as possible. These guys are saying they don't want pre-orders, so that tells you up front that they aren't hyping for financial gain. Also, they aren't sharing too many clues on how their chip works because they don't want any competition stealing their discoveries! Yeah it sucks that they can't "share the knowledge" just for the good of the scene, but business is business. Also, don't get mad at xbox-scene for posting news about this...can you imagine what would happen if xbox-scene DIDN'T post anything about this and everyone else did? Xbox-scene mods would have their inboxes FLOODED with tips, questions, comments etc about "devil 360" this and "devil 360" that...fake or not, this will keep their email inboxes more empty so they can pay attention to more important emails. Just wait for a prototype to be reviewed and calm down. If it ends up being bogus, xbox-scene will be first to let you know about it.
Post by: sam1dog on June 06, 2006, 07:12:00 PM
I can't wait to see what their modchip does. LOL
What A JOKE
Post by: kdezzy78 on June 06, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
QUOTE(Ed_209 @ Jun 6 2006, 09:16 PM)
These people must be legit because they are saying they are going to send out prototypes for review before any more "hype" builds up... If they were trying to con people they definitely wouldn't be linking directly to xbox-scene from their website. If you wanted to con people you would be linking to shady as hell websites that will say anything as long as you bribe them enough, and asking for as many pre-orders as possible. These guys are saying they don't want pre-orders, so that tells you up front that they aren't hyping for financial gain. Also, they aren't sharing too many clues on how their chip works because they don't want any competition stealing their discoveries! Yeah it sucks that they can't "share the knowledge" just for the good of the scene, but business is business. Also, don't get mad at xbox-scene for posting news about this...can you imagine what would happen if xbox-scene DIDN'T post anything about this and everyone else did? Xbox-scene mods would have their inboxes FLOODED with tips, questions, comments etc about "devil 360" this and "devil 360" that...fake or not, this will keep their email inboxes more empty so they can pay attention to more important emails. Just wait for a prototype to be reviewed and calm down. If it ends up being bogus, xbox-scene will be first to let you know about it.
One of the most intellectual posts so far!
Post by: ensaynexotics on June 06, 2006, 07:13:00 PM
fo sho
Post by: Agent ME on June 06, 2006, 07:14:00 PM
Post by: Faster80 on June 06, 2006, 07:18:00 PM
QUOTE(kdezzy78 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:23 AM)
Its UNsigned code, you dont need a XDK, thats what the CHIP is for. Just like a chip for the xbox.
The reason xbox-scene doesn't link directly to homebrew or sites hosting homebrew is because the homebrew is built with an XDK. And Team Devil claims to have an XDK.
Excuse me.
Post by: Killa420 on June 06, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: DJ_L3ThAL on June 06, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: yaazz on June 06, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
Post by: MrPhunkee on June 06, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
I dont even want their hardware if any would come out wich I seriously doubt
Post by: shauno on June 06, 2006, 07:20:00 PM
(devil360) due to the huge amount of hype, our crappy webserver has died....
(devil360) BUT just letting everyone know its a modchip, youll just have to trust us... in fact you dont need a picture or specs at all because, WERE SUPER DOOPER CEREAL!!
ICE-ICE-BABY
Post by: Venom on June 06, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
I am offering the Veee-chip, untested, CRACKED for sure(yes I mean broken), and a free autographed 8 x 10 of me for 19.95.
Yes, it does sound too good to be true
Post by: Mr.INSANE on June 06, 2006, 07:21:00 PM
I wouldnt be suprised if the next day they said
"looks like the update fixed the hole we will find another next year ...Maybe"
Post by: EvanVanVan on June 06, 2006, 07:24:00 PM
Post by: Achtung on June 06, 2006, 07:25:00 PM
I really hope its true but the signs don't look to good.
Post by: Salvinor on June 06, 2006, 07:26:00 PM
If you claim to change the (XBOX) world on 6-6-6 and can't come up with at least a screenshot or ANY info concerning your product - no wonder you are laughed at.
they should have finished their product and released it when it was ready.
they would have been the modding gods if they lived up to the expectations they deliberately created.
but now they suffer from great loss of credibility.
I hope they can recover from this big disappointment.
so keep up the work, guys, and enrich the world with your *working* modchip.
Post by: mrjiggles139 on June 06, 2006, 07:27:00 PM
Post by: AfGhAnGsTa on June 06, 2006, 07:29:00 PM
Post by: Faster80 on June 06, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(bigred22 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:35 AM)
Give them a chance, if its not real then you can say what ever you want to!!!
They had their chance on 666, and their webserver crashed.
Post by: CattyKid on June 06, 2006, 07:31:00 PM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Jun 6 2006, 09:00 PM)
small correction here ... we never posted about ICE (unlike many other sites) and what-ever 'hello' is.
The only news article about the ICE modchip was a post with detailed info about why it was all fake.
I'm going to go out on a limb. I don't like to do this, but I'm going to.
I trust you. There is something here. Something big. Name me 2 people on X-S more trusted, loyal, ANYTHING than Xantium. I mean, he's member #2 and an ADMIN. Admins don't lie and they've seen their share of crap over the years, so there must be something to this.
It will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
Post by: ybaig123 on June 06, 2006, 07:32:00 PM
QUOTE(XanTium @ Jun 7 2006, 01:00 AM)
small correction here ... we never posted about ICE (unlike many other sites) and what-ever 'hello' is.
The only news article about the ICE modchip was a post with detailed info about why it was all fake.
maximum ownage
Post by: Neilinator99 on June 06, 2006, 07:35:00 PM
wow speachlessPost by: rastiemon on June 06, 2006, 07:43:00 PM
QUOTE(Kafluke @ Jun 6 2006, 09:45 PM)
I find it very interesting that 90% of all these people calling bull shit have been members of the scene for what, 6 months?, 9 months max. Obviously a bunch of friggin noobs who don't remember all the early xecuter releases. How about the many times that xecuters site has gone down. Team xecuter has released some of the most reliable, feature rich products for the xbox, and they've been anything but "on-time".
I will be laughing at all you guys when I'm running my first custom dashboard with my devil360 modded xbox360.
Amen to that. And I hope the chip has like 30 wires and is a bitch to install so all these fuckin 12 year olds won't be able to install it.
Nothing like reading endless posts of these kiddies brickin their shit.
Post by: Neilinator99 on June 06, 2006, 07:44:00 PM
Disapointed
Post by: CattyKid on June 06, 2006, 07:46:00 PM
Xantium has put the reputation of Xbox-Scene on the line by posting this. We have a lot of respect, and he KNOWS that, and he wouldn't do anything to hurt the Scene or it's members on purpose. Posting something fake like this would do anything but improve our rep. I trust him. He must know something that we do not, that I'm sure he was asked to keep quiet or that he is keeping quiet for our own good.
That's it, I'm done.
Post by: RobRandler on June 06, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
i'm not saying its not real, i'm saying wait and see. for now, get yourself a TS dvd drive and enjoy it for all you idiots only wanting free games.
i would like to have a full fledged XBMC like on the orig xbox, that is all.
bring on the mod chips!
good luck Devil 360 team and all other teams trying to achieve the same thing!
Post by: minimoebius on June 06, 2006, 07:49:00 PM
Post by: DJ_L3ThAL on June 06, 2006, 07:50:00 PM
QUOTE(Tural @ Jun 7 2006, 12:38 PM)
Man, I am with you, I came here to see what people had to say about this, and what do I find? Five pages of people bitching at each other about opinions. I am not telling you people not to have an opinion, just that the fact is, it is just an opinion, do not come here trying to shove yours down everyone elses' throats.
THANK YOU
back to the topic, i dont see why everyone gets so crazily fussed about, IMO:
X-S, Thank you for the prompt news!
Devil360, thank you for contributing to the scene, i do hope it is a successful product that you are releasing..
To the keyboard kids, repeat what i just said above, go have a nap or play your 360 to calm the hell down... all this whinin (spelling?) *if devil turns out to be fake* just makes them laugh more that they had you worked up and left you in 3 days of pain while you wait for the skin on the tips of your fingers to grow back from typing so much b/s
my 2.7 cents (AUD conversion rate
)
Post by: Base8 on June 06, 2006, 07:56:00 PM
Post by: TGD on June 06, 2006, 07:57:00 PM
Post by: psxpirate1 on June 06, 2006, 08:00:00 PM
Post by: Soldier of Light on June 06, 2006, 08:02:00 PM
Post by: Neilinator99 on June 06, 2006, 08:03:00 PM
Post by: xoverburnx on June 06, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
Post by: nateh90 on June 06, 2006, 08:10:00 PM
QUOTE
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//IETF//DTD HTML 2.0//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<TITLE>503 Service Temporarily Unavailable</TITLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>Service Temporarily Unavailable</H1>
The server is temporarily unable to service your
request due to maintenance downtime or capacity
problems. Please try again later.
<HR>
<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at <A HREF="mailto:[email protected]">www.devil360.com</A> Port 80</ADDRESS>
</BODY></HTML>
My best guess is that their sever was not overloaded, they simply just replaced the main page with this custom one. Again just a guess, if anyone finds any obvios flaws in my theory, please feel free to point them out. Thanks - Nate
EDIT: BTW, why would they be using version 1.3.33 of apache when apache is at release 2.2.2?? Seems a little odd to me.
Post by: buttface96 on June 06, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: Woore on June 06, 2006, 08:15:00 PM
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 06, 2006, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: vinney on June 06, 2006, 08:19:00 PM
QUOTE
You may have seen news about this on xbox-scene
I think I know who is doing this, I haven't had the chance to speak to him yet BUT if it is this friend of mine then you can be sure it is a very very low level hardcore hardware hack - but a very working one too.
if i'm also correct it won't be cheap - so you can be sure to see many alternative products and im sure other people will probably release the dvd firmware too (NOTE: Disclaimer to those who think about conspiracies all day - this does not mean Xecuter). June 2006 should be interesting.
EDIT
OK its not who i thought it was - the Spider team are behind whatever this is - so I give it zero credibility tbh
I think I know who is doing this, I haven't had the chance to speak to him yet BUT if it is this friend of mine then you can be sure it is a very very low level hardcore hardware hack - but a very working one too.
if i'm also correct it won't be cheap - so you can be sure to see many alternative products and im sure other people will probably release the dvd firmware too (NOTE: Disclaimer to those who think about conspiracies all day - this does not mean Xecuter). June 2006 should be interesting.
EDIT
OK its not who i thought it was - the Spider team are behind whatever this is - so I give it zero credibility tbh
This is a quote from Team Xecuter's Forums, the author is Xecuter... Untill any new "evidence" or proof of a modchip rises, i follow Xecuter...
Post by: nateh90 on June 06, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Post by: shauno on June 06, 2006, 08:22:00 PM
* Try to protect it from any type of update
* Make it programmable via PC
* Boot unsigned code
* Allow to swap HD with larger drive with a special interface between the 360 and the HD (all types IDE/SATA).
The 'chip' needs to be IMPROVED to 'run unsigned code'? LOL
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
so how long would it take to "improve" it to boot unsigned code???........
how long's a piece of string??
all will be answered by 6-6-6666.....hopefully
P.S. I HOPE TO EAT MY WORDS MORE THAN ANYONE HERE!!!
Post by: Soldier of Light on June 06, 2006, 08:25:00 PM
QUOTE(nateh90 @ Jun 6 2006, 10:28 PM)
Can we try to back up our arguments with facts, and not pure personal opinions. Noone has even adressed the source of the page that i posted, and the difference between that and a default apache error message. Thanks - Nate
Did you not read the proof that I posted? If you refresh the page enough times, eventually you WILL get the page to load. Try it for yourself. If you still don't believe me I'll take a screenshot.
Post by: mrjkwik on June 06, 2006, 08:27:00 PM
For those that are like, "I'm gonna wait for someone reputable like Xecuter to release something". Hey numbnuts, who do you think Xecuter was before the xbox? And thats not meant to be offensive to Xecuter. Just because there may be a new team on the block, doesnt make them illegitimate.
Does this mean I believe them to be legit, I dont know. Actually, I dont care. Until I see an X-S review, I wont. But I'd lean to it having some sort of credibility. Xantiums post has already alluded to that. And if it is fake, I'm sure we will all see HSDemonz in here quite bluntly telling us as much. Cattykid has a point, X-S doesnt easily put their rep on the line.
Post by: vinney on June 06, 2006, 08:29:00 PM
anyway, i call BOGUS, please prove me wrong
Post by: nic8612 on June 06, 2006, 08:32:00 PM
QUOTE(Faster80 @ Jun 7 2006, 02:01 AM)
Why couldn't they have waited untill the product was completed, sent prototypes to scene sites to review it, then, scene sites anounce a working xbo360 mod-chip. Instead making asses out of themselves by planning the release of a product nowhere near completion because they want to release it on "the day of the beast". Shows what type of people they are, whether the chip is real or not.
People screw up and deadlines aren't met sometimes. Its how the real world works. Look at every major video game, do they usually come out when the developers originally say they will? Most of the time, the answer is no. These people want to release a quality product, and if it means missing their announced date, then so be it. If this chip turns out to be true, I don't mind waiting another month or two. And everyone needs to quit complaining about their page not working. The error reported clearly says it could be down due to capacity problems, meaning they exceeded their daily bandwidth. Get over it, try the page tomorrow.
And as for the sheltered tard whose post I quoted, you shouldn't judge people based on your religious beliefs. Just because they were trying to latch on to a marketing gimmick doesn't make them Satan worshipers. Satan isn't real anyway, and God probably isn't either.
Post by: garlm on June 06, 2006, 08:34:00 PM
"The 'chip' needs to be IMPROVED to 'run unsigned code'? LOL
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?"
How many of us have seen the 360 bios (especially decrypted)? How do you know if it would be just as easy to disable an 'original disc check' as a signed executable check on *this* console?
Post by: mrjkwik on June 06, 2006, 08:35:00 PM
If they are legit, then they are more about the almighty dollar than the about the scene.
If a hole was found, why hasnt it been shared? This doesnt mean its BS, but would mean its greedy. Post the hole and let everyone rush to market. Lets hope they have shared some info with other chip makers.
Post by: vinney on June 06, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: shauno on June 06, 2006, 08:36:00 PM
* Try to protect it from any type of update
* Make it programmable via PC
* Boot unsigned code
* Allow to swap HD with larger drive with a special interface between the 360 and the HD (all types IDE/SATA).
The 'chip' needs to be IMPROVED to 'run unsigned code'? LOL
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
Why would you install a chip unless it does the above?(or its a dvd firmware chip)
Also you would assume the current 'prototypes' dont boot unsigned code either, how can reputable people confirm anything then??
sooo WHAT DOES IT ACTUALLY DO ATM??? Is it a chip just for piracy??? wait we already have f/w for that...
so how long would it take to "improve" it to boot unsigned code???........
how long's a piece of string??
all will be answered by 6-6-6666.....hopefully
P.S. I HOPE TO EAT MY WORDS MORE THAN ANYONE HERE!!!
EDIT: sorry to the mods for the double post........
Post by: KILLplaystation on June 06, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
QUOTE(askii64 @ Jun 6 2006, 10:27 PM)
*sigh* This is really disappointing... I'm not expecting anything now... here's my reasoning:
1. missed the release date
How come they were ready to release it last night, yet not ready to release it today?
2. claimed the chip will allow the use of IDE hard drives
Ok. How is a chip going to do this?
3. decided not to release it today so they could "improve" it
Honestly, what *sane* person hypes something like this, then at the last moment goes "wait a minute, we could add more features in here and NOT release it, thus disappointing everyone!"?
4. "will send prototypes to xbox hacking sites"
I've heard this line before (and not just in the xbox modding community...), and every time it has meant nothing but trouble. See, now they can create confusion by blaming the sites the supposedly sent samples to when nothing shows up. "Don't blame us, we sent the samples out, the xbox hacking sites are trying to keep us down!"
I hope it ends up being real, but until they can start making release dates and being a bit more professional about it, I'm not very excited.
they hyped up the announcement, not the release
Post by: nwo504 on June 06, 2006, 08:39:00 PM
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 06, 2006, 08:45:00 PM
QUOTE(Soldier of Light @ Jun 6 2006, 07:09 PM)
I'd just like to point out that their site is actually suffering from an overload. If you refresh the page a few times, you might get lucky and actually see a page.
WOW First try i got it! But I just got lucky. I won't be able to use any links for another hour
Post by: epsilon72 on June 06, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
that would be awsome if this was legit, but i doubt we'll see any true modchips (like ones to run your own bios) for some time to come.
Post by: sup191 on June 06, 2006, 08:47:00 PM
QUOTE(mrjkwik @ Jun 7 2006, 02:42 AM)
If they are legit, then they are more about the almighty dollar than the about the scene.
If a hole was found, why hasnt it been shared? This doesnt mean its BS, but would mean its greedy. Post the hole and let everyone rush to market. Lets hope they have shared some info with other chip makers.
Have you ever considered that if they HAVE discovered a hole, they may not want to let MS know about it too early so they can fix it? They have already put epoxy over chips to stop the one firmware mod that's out there. (forgot the name of it - too damn tired atm)
Post by: leorimolo on June 06, 2006, 08:48:00 PM
Camadore 4 Eva
Edit: Xantium how come you posted this time, can you show us your proof cause you seem quite confident by your last post. I think that guy or team showed you something.
LEo
Post by: Home Less on June 06, 2006, 08:49:00 PM
Post by: DoctorWho1945 on June 06, 2006, 08:50:00 PM
QUOTE(sindows @ Jun 7 2006, 04:53 AM)
I cant get over how many people in this thread are totally brain dead retards....
thank god some one said it for me lol this is going to be sweet if it's real
Post by: KILLplaystation on June 06, 2006, 08:51:00 PM
QUOTE
The 'chip' needs to be IMPROVED to 'run unsigned code'? LOL
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
as far back as i can remember, first mod chips were to get around checks that prevented you from playing imports, and later burned games aswell. If i remember correctly the xbox1 mod chips used a man-in-the-middle attack on the lpc holes where the dev kits would take control, inturn giving anyone with a mod-chip the ability to do so themselves.
The chip needing to be improved to run unsigned code doesnt sound so crazy, unlocking the possibility to run the code is one thing, running it and running it correctly is a whole other story.
im sorry but it smells horrible when you talk out your ass
Post by: buttface96 on June 06, 2006, 08:53:00 PM
Post by: garyopa on June 06, 2006, 08:57:00 PM
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
Hmm..
Yep, they have the same "firmware" hack we all have, and they are trying to
find a way to "improve" it to do more than it does, and maybe design some
clip-on board which sits over the existing chip which can be easier flash using
a programmer thru the "printer" port instead of needing the SATA.
Second part is easy to do, I have done that myself with a simple PCBoard
design.
They are just waiting until "Commorade4eva" releases his next LG firmware,
and then they are going to say they shiped "prototypes" to the "scene" boards.
Post by: neutronb on June 06, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
Post by: CreziB on June 06, 2006, 08:59:00 PM
They all just sit back and grin while everyone adds fuel to the fire.
Post by: KILLplaystation on June 06, 2006, 09:01:00 PM
QUOTE(garyopa @ Jun 6 2006, 11:04 PM)
The 'chip' needs to be IMPROVED to 'run unsigned code'? LOL
Isnt this the sole purpose of a modchip?
Hmm..
Yep, they have the same "firmware" hack we all have, and they are trying to
find a way to "improve" it to do more than it does, and maybe design some
clip-on board which sits over the existing chip which can be easier flash using
a programmer thru the "printer" port instead of needing the SATA.
Second part is easy to do, I have done that myself with a simple PCBoard
design.
They are just waiting until "Commorade4eva" releases his next LG firmware,
and then they are going to say they shiped "prototypes" to the "scene" boards.
im sorry but wasnt it confirmed to have nothing to do with the firmware hack? yes it was confirmed to have nothing to do with the dvd FW hack... hmm... answered my own rhetorical question
Post by: davinator456 on June 06, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
QUOTE(sindows @ Jun 6 2006, 09:53 PM)
To be honest, i have a very good and strong feeling about this group. If you guys reading this, i want you to know, i have faith in you.
Yah... when i hear the name devil the first thing that pops into my head is trust and faith and good feelings....
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 06, 2006, 09:05:00 PM
http://www.devil360.com/
http://www.devil360.com/node
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Archives
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Downloads
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Links
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Forums
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Register
http://www.devil360.com/?q=FAQs
http://www.devil360.com/?q=node
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Disclaimer
http://www.devil360....?q=Distributors
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Manuals
http://www.devil360....=Specifications
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Diagrams
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Hardware
http://www.devil360.com/?q=Tutorials
http://www.devil360.com/?q=node/28
http://www.devil360....gator/sources/1
Post by: nuke field ET on June 06, 2006, 09:06:00 PM
QUOTE(buttface96 @ Jun 6 2006, 10:00 PM)
hmm i find it funny that other trusted sites i like xbox360.qj.net (under pspupdates) have not posted this info
... umm... how about you google "devil360" and come back and be able to say the same thing.
There are so many ignorant tards who just flood these threads with senseless opinions (not referring to you btw, face, just in general). For all of you people saying it's fake... Then why would xbox-scene post about it 3 TIMES? *ur-dur* they know something that you don't, maybe? Some people actually have the nerve to say "x-s is useless now, they're crap, they're liars, etc etc". Some people can't get it through their heads that if you give a site enough hits in such a short amount of time, people will start getting errors and will not be able to view the site. Just have a little faith and patience, people; it'll probably be a while until you can actually get your hands on this mod chip of theirs. I'm looking forward to it
Post by: shauno on June 06, 2006, 09:07:00 PM
QUOTE(KILLplaystation @ Jun 7 2006, 12:38 PM)
im sorry but wasnt it confirmed to have nothing to do with the firmware hack? yes it was confirmed to have nothing to do with the dvd FW hack... hmm... answered my own rhetorical question
Would like to know who comfirmed it has nothing to do with the firmware hack (besides devil360 themselves)
I mean who would buy it if they said it was just a modified f/w hack?
alot less people than if its something "completly new"
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 06, 2006, 09:08:00 PM
opinions are like assholes....everyone has one, its just some stink worse than others
Post by: buttface96 on June 06, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
QUOTE(Opteron @ Jun 6 2006, 08:08 PM)
Um, I'm sorry... but... When did qj.net become a trusted site?
i trust it, thats who
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 06, 2006, 09:12:00 PM
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 06, 2006, 09:16:00 PM
Post by: davinator456 on June 06, 2006, 09:17:00 PM
QUOTE(sindows @ Jun 6 2006, 10:13 PM)
go buy a playstation....
got $600?
ps---> this topic has reached 11 pages in 2 hours-!
Post by: jiveabillion on June 06, 2006, 09:18:00 PM
Post by: JohnnyVegas on June 06, 2006, 09:19:00 PM
Anyone can create simple hype.
Anyone can say they hacked a console.
I don't think it's silly to suggest this could possibly be fake. I think is more silly to believe everything you read off the net.
But that's just me.
This is a rather LARGE claim at this point. Would be nice to have a few more specifics to support their words.
Post by: s1zeRo on June 06, 2006, 09:20:00 PM
found another
Post by: cmart* on June 06, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 06, 2006, 09:22:00 PM
QUOTE(s1zeRo @ Jun 6 2006, 08:27 PM)
I get nothing
http://www.devil360....en_dooped_AGAIN
Oh well
Post by: ClintiePoo on June 06, 2006, 09:24:00 PM
QUOTE(davinator456 @ Jun 6 2006, 10:24 PM)
got $600?
ps---> this topic has reached 11 pages in 2 hours-!
Earn free posts! Speculate about the modchip!
WHEE!
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 06, 2006, 09:28:00 PM
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 06, 2006, 09:29:00 PM
I KNOW WAT IT IS!!! IT'S WHAT WE ALL WANTED!!!
A FACEPLACTE THAT GLOWS IN THE DARK!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
Post by: mitch2025 on June 06, 2006, 09:30:00 PM
Post by: BIMPtacular on June 06, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(LightningStruckMyXbox @ Jun 6 2006, 10:36 PM)
OMG!!!
I KNOW WAT IT IS!!! IT'S WHAT WE ALL WANTED!!!
A FACEPLACTE THAT GLOWS IN THE DARK!!!!
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG
with optional am/fm radio and 8-track
Post by: asspop on June 06, 2006, 09:41:00 PM
Post by: Lpk32187 on June 06, 2006, 09:42:00 PM
QUOTE(BIMPtacular @ Jun 6 2006, 10:23 PM)
not many people are trying to understan(d)....woops....theyre trying to find some reason to discredit devil360....im by no means an expert, but why would you try and take away from these guys.....what hacks or mods have you developed lately??
Well they haven't developed anything and did the story so they have no creditability.
Post by: gehx on June 07, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
QUOTE(Flame2k @ Jun 7 2006, 08:00 AM)
No explaination, No Release, No documentation.
... NO PROOF.
fake imo.
'small' security hole. If this is real then id like a technical explaination.
And yes, a few of you did notice the language used.."Working hard on IMPROVING IT TO:... BOOT UNSIGNED CODE"
- That sounds to me as if it cant. - and if it cant... what the hell does the device actually do that we havent achieved already.
Remember, the greatest feat the Devil every accomplished is convincing people he that he doesn't exist.
Post by: acemilo on June 07, 2006, 12:06:00 PM
http://forums.maxcon...newpost&t=21469
http://www.maxconsol...ews&newsid=7678
These are pics of the devil360, which is nothing more than a replacement chip for the firmware on the dvd drive. They lied to us and said it has nothing to do with the dvd firmware hack, but obviously it does. You can make this chip yourself for next to nothing, don't be fooled.
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 07, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
While there will be more to work on, since we know a lot about the Xbox and are starting to get more knowledge of the Xbox 360, so progress might be sped up by that, don't expect miracles.
I personally think a modchip from Devil360 that just allows you to run some assembly code would be a huge milestone, and I support them not releasing anything. Imagine the backlash if they released a video of an Xbox 360 just showing a "Hello world!" message on the screen? Of course clever people would be amazed, but for each clever person in the scene there's at least 10 novices who will get angry.
If a mod does come out I'll probably wait a while before trying it, possibly when I get my new case (anyone able to tell me if the black full case is any good? I'm thinking of ordering it but I'm not sure of the quality)
Post by: staticFLINT on June 07, 2006, 12:14:00 PM
QUOTE(acemilo @ Jun 7 2006, 11:13 AM)
I'm not trying to spam for another site, but I have some relevant information.
http://forums.maxcon...newpost&t=21469
http://www.maxconsol...ews&newsid=7678
These are pics of the devil360, which is nothing more than a replacement chip for the firmware on the dvd drive. They lied to us and said it has nothing to do with the dvd firmware hack, but obviously it does. You can make this chip yourself for next to nothing, don't be fooled.
link to a supposed picture of the devil 360 mod
again no proof....
Post by: Breakthrough on June 07, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
Apply that here, and maybe we might see something. If not, that's the way the world works. Get over it.
End of story.
Post by: mksoftware on June 07, 2006, 12:36:00 PM
Post by: sofa king dumb on June 07, 2006, 01:34:00 PM
QUOTE(mksoftware @ Jun 7 2006, 07:43 PM)
Devil mod 360 and Devil360 are totally two different things, complete bullshit!
thanks for clearing that up
Post by: advanitr on June 07, 2006, 01:50:00 PM
Post by: vadox6466 on June 07, 2006, 02:21:00 PM
Post by: LiquidNitRox on June 07, 2006, 02:27:00 PM
Source: http://www.devil360....S_and_WE_ok.JPG
There is a topic in another forum relating to this from April:
http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=507186
I've not seen this referenced in this thread but the other topic has been posted to today, not sure if everyone reading this super long thread of the decade has seen this topic.
Post by: Hack_Bird on June 07, 2006, 02:28:00 PM
QUOTE(mksoftware @ Jun 7 2006, 07:43 PM)
Devil mod 360 and Devil360 are totally two different things, complete bullshit!
You are totally r8
QUOTE
These are 2 totally different teams and products.
Now about the "Mod-chip" from the Devil360 team, I hope its true or at least they come up with "Something" like a mod-chip (Boot Linux or something ? )
Post by: dstealth on June 07, 2006, 03:16:00 PM
Post by: ClintiePoo on June 07, 2006, 03:55:00 PM
QUOTE(Questioner @ Jun 7 2006, 11:02 AM)
Yah, as they say....the devil360 is in the details
That's the best comment this thread has.
Post by: Reese Kaine on June 07, 2006, 04:17:00 PM
"Don't bother telling us unless you can prove your product is real"
That is a rather dangerous statement considering the field that everyone here is in (After all, it's considered illegal to even OPEN your console), seeing as how the law structure is being changed as we speak. For all we know, the next day, MS could order a raid on the chip companies because they're protective of their precious "unhackable" console (Doesn't matter where. After all, a famous foreign website was recently taken down because an American company ordered it). And all of this negative talk will only dissuade otherwise intelligent engineers from working on legit modifications.
These naysayers.......why the fuck are they even here (I stopped reading the posts after page 6. Too much of the same)? It's obvious they could care less about the homebrew scene, and even more less about Linux being on their high-def gaming platform. I've adopted a "Wait and see" stance on this Devil360 product. There's all sorts of reasons why the site could be down. My guess?: Too many people were looking and D360 couldn't handle the mass-traffic.......yet. As for the product itself? There's nothing wrong with saying "I've got a feeling we've got something going here, and we'll keep you posted on our progress."
There may not be a picture, yet, but it's something. Something is anything, and anything can be good as long as you're patient about it. We've all been patient before, let's.....let's just wait and see what's going on here before we start calling bullshit.
Post by: manu_xl on June 07, 2006, 04:38:00 PM
QUOTE(cmodding'signature @ Jun 7 2006, 08:19 PM)
jesus christ. please make some paypal donations too! it will speed up their development process ;-)
Post by: mitch2025 on June 07, 2006, 04:43:00 PM
that sig is too big. look at my sig for the max size (mine was removed because it was 10 pixles to tall
and i was too lazy to erase what the mod wrote lol)
Post by: manu_xl on June 07, 2006, 04:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Reese Kaine @ Jun 8 2006, 12:24 AM)
I've adopted a "Wait and see" stance on this Devil360 product. There's all sorts of reasons why the site could be down. My guess?: Too many people were looking and D360 couldn't handle the mass-traffic.......yet. As for the product itself? There's nothing wrong with saying "I've got a feeling we've got something going here, and we'll keep you posted on our progress."
There may not be a picture, yet, but it's something. Something is anything, and anything can be good as long as you're patient about it. We've all been patient before, let's.....let's just wait and see what's going on here before we start calling bullshit.
their site was 100% copy of the gcloader site in the past! 100% the same! it also had only a mail address field by which you received the same standard automated message! that gcloader is 100% proved scam! they promissed to make a hdd mod for the nintendo gamecube. please follow more scene sites than this one alone!
watch the new devil360 site: only thing i could read was (soon)^x where soon equals an amount greater than 1
Post by: mr_wall on June 07, 2006, 05:19:00 PM
I don't care what anyone says there's no way 'they' are going to send prototypes before they've secured a deal and milked the first generation of customers because you can be sure whoever gets their hand on this holy grail won't just evaluate it! its not like they can apply for a patent on their miracle chip is it?
A few others here have mentioned (rightly so imo) that xbox-scene shouldn't necessarily give them so much publicity, without first at least hearing some details but so far its just a pretty site and a bunch of words, nothing tangible.
Post by: MR Buga Wuga on June 07, 2006, 05:21:00 PM
<---My cum face I have been stalking these forums on X-S and Xboxhackers for quite some time now and have never posted due to lack of time ( I work extermely unsociable hours and work 6 and even 7 day weeks ). This is what I feel I have to get off my chest. Have *A*N*Y* of you moaning unappreciative little BASTARDS ever worked on something SO much, literally your 'heart and soul' was put into it? I have and I'm sure VIRTUALLY ALL of the more senior members have. Now relate this to Devil360.com. Yes, they did create hype hoping to give xb360 owners a ray of hope to boot "backups", unsigned code, and eventually lead the way to run linux and media centers etc at a time when not many had post good news for the xb360 scene. Devil360.com created the hype, and THEY ABOVE ALL WILL FEEL MOST DISAPPOINTED, more so than the screaming little brats on these forums! They wanted to release a product and of course they wanted to cash in - thats what business' are all about - TO MAKE MONEY! Now ALL of you pessimists out there answer this truthfully and honestly .. Q. Would pictures and/or videos and/or specific info really have made that much difference to your pessimism? I don't think it would. I imagine hundreds of thousands if not millions of people tried accessing devil360.com on 06-06-06 and nearly ALL felt anxious and let down by the devil360.com team for not having a working product. Relate that to the world - Q. How many of us have bought "faulty" products at a price above £50 / $30 ? I do ALL the time and I'm sick of it. I feel many companies release products FAR too prematurely without going through strict quality control leaving the end consumer disappointed and let down AFTER PARTING WITH MONEY! NO SINGLE PERSON HAS PARTED WITH *ANY* MONEY - and Devil360.com team have certainly not asked for any! So why the bitching?! Now would you rather Devil360.com take their time and ensure their product is all it promises to be AND more (meaning a delay in their products release), or would you rather have something that may or may not work in your hands now? I know what I would go for...
Just remember in your office at work, or if your still at school (which most of the swines in here still are!) how often do you miss deadlines? How often is it because you got sidetracked? People prioritise in life because it is needed. Maybe you're a little disappointed now but in the long run I feel Devil360.com will release a product that will amaze all xb360 owners - now weigh up the disappointment felt now by an end product that will transform an already amazing piece of technology later on.
Devil360.com has my confidence without a shadow of a doubt.
One final thing (you'll be glad to hear)... Is it possible nobody from X-S has commented on Devil360.com because they are actually heavily involved in this item, and not because of a conspiracy theory that they "know" something but do not want to share (Gollum from LOTR comes to mind **MY PRECIOUSSS** ). As far as I'm aware X-S are VERY honest and do not DECIEVE unlike many sites. And if they are involved to develop this product I don't think they would advertise it because then more hype is raised, and X-S do not like "hype" especially when it would recreate the hype and disappointment felt throughout the xb360 scene (regarding 06-06-06) - they prefer factual evidence, or more so in this case (dare I say) "their" FINAL 100% WORKING PRODUCTS to announce. And how do you know X-S arent the owners of the site? I'm not basing this on any evidence whatsoever, I'm just throwing some possibilities out there ... ... ... ... ...
PS Thanks to anyone who has really made a good impact on the scene, and also my hat goes off to all those who have kept me coming to this forum by posting genuine sincere intelligent posts.
I really wish there was a hat emoticon I could use here . .
Post by: mr_wall on June 07, 2006, 05:41:00 PM
QUOTE(MR Buga Wuga @ Jun 8 2006, 12:28 AM)
Yes, they did create hype hoping to give xb360 owners a ray of hope to boot "backups", unsigned code, and eventually lead the way to run linux and media centers etc at a time when not many had post good news for the xb360 scene.
Exactly they created hype, but hype my friend is useless.
Maybe their objective is to force the hand of someone who has a REAL solution?
That is a very real possibility and one that could lead to something good.
But with 'their' track record we have to assume they are blowing smoke.
Post by: cynicl12000 on June 07, 2006, 07:52:00 PM
I'm personally still on a wait and see level myself, not ready to commit true hope as I don't want to be disappointed, and not ready to write it off as there are a lot of things that can delay release dates (any PS3 fanboys out there?...if not how about Godfather for the 360?).
But the way I look at it, getting pissed off and bitching can only accomplish a couple of things:
1.) It'll serve as therapy in an open forum. While I agree that this can be valuable in certain circumstances, if you need therapy because you find out someone in the world has at one time either deceived you or has made a mistake in their announcement, you're in for a long, hard life.
2.) It will deter people from offering information (and possibly expediting the development process through recruitment into dev teams/open discussion with people who might be able to help when there are questions).
I will say that Devil360 shouldn't have announced it would have a product ready and reneg, but so fuckin what? YOU'VE never been late? You've never hit a snag? I've learned not to give time estimates on car repairs or electronics set ups because the projects always take longer than you think they will. Maybe they shouldn't have said it would be out on the 6th, it's like when I told my girlfriend it would only take me about 20 mins to replace her alternator, but people can't always deliver when they said they would.
Whether Devil360 is real or not, someone will come out with a chip for Linux/unsigned code. And it'll probably still be a while before it's stable. There will be ways to mod, and they'll get here when they get here.
Post by: buttface96 on June 07, 2006, 09:03:00 PM
Post by: SupraKid on June 07, 2006, 09:21:00 PM
Post by: Arch0n on June 07, 2006, 09:32:00 PM
QUOTE(nateh90 @ Jun 7 2006, 03:17 AM)
EDIT: BTW, why would they be using version 1.3.33 of apache when apache is at release 2.2.2?? Seems a little odd to me.
They're using Debian Woody Stable or .3.33 cos it's half the eveil of 6.66 ? who knows?
QUOTE(boddo @ Jun 7 2006, 05:22 AM)
everyone here is bashing everyone on who knows better. wheres the community mentality gone?
Seems to be business as usual to me!
QUOTE(javip @ Jun 7 2006, 07:14 AM)
the way i see it.. they are going to a lot of trouble to make this look real (if it is fake), without asking for any money or soliciting people to buy it
True, some people originally said when the site was released that it was there simply to generate hits? WTF for, there's no advertising on it...
For those saying that Xecuter are the hardware masters and they're site doesn't fall down etc (whatever your point here is, I dunno) just remember they lost their domain and were up and down in one form or another for weeks... Also remember that they didn't do the early work to hack the xbox, Andrew H did. (so yep agree with ^ Thyatis)
There was also the rumor that their initial BIOS code was bought from a rogue employee at M$ (yeah I dunno either).
PS this is not a TX dis, those guys are in my top 5 scene gods list and I've used their BIOS long time
QUOTE(sp1200 @ Jun 7 2006, 04:34 AM)
I remember when Evolution X was announced, people thought it was all BS.
Not to say this devil chip is legit but time will tell.
those were good days... The release was like "Want an app that does this that, ftp etc" and it got so farking flamed (and otherwise, there was complete polarization )and then EvolutionX simply released their dash and it did everything they said.
QUOTE(ColdReader @ Jun 7 2006, 10:42 AM)
NO XDK MEANS NO HOMEBREW NO THATS RIGHT NONE! NO XBMC NONE OF THAT SO BOOTING UNSIGNED CODE IS WORTHLESS
well 10 Dev kits went missing on release and only 8 were recovered? (with chedabob ^ on this one) but littlestevie360 has cleared that up. Yay Oz
QUOTE(littlestevie360 @ Jun 7 2006, 12:44 PM)
not that this is relevant at all to this topic as C4E and TS afaik are NOT the devil360 team
It may be relevant though, as in their "security summary" or WETF it was (second X-S post) they hinted at a hardware SED operation on the traffic between the console and teh DVD. It sounds difficult (at the least) to me due to the manipulation required beforehand such as ES extraction but not impossible. After all, something like the Xenium has its own OS and is able to manipulate the orignal xbox's hardware pre flash.
QUOTE(kneehighspy @ Jun 7 2006, 01:45 PM)
heh, i remember back in the day burning my own xbox eeproms and installing them, all 29 wires to be exact.
I still have a box with a functioning homebrew 29 wire in it. It has always, and is continuing to work fine
QUOTE(Questioner @ Jun 7 2006, 05:02 PM)
Yah, as they say....the devil360 is in the details
QUOTE(Chancer @ Jun 7 2006, 05:31 PM)
If I was a mod I would disable your posting for 3 days for telling everyone in here to ................................
Oooh I am a mod.
hahahahahahah
blind freddie, KILLplaystation QUOTE(acemilo @ Jun 7 2006, 07:13 PM)
These are pics of the devil360, which is nothing more than a replacement chip for the firmware on the dvd drive. They lied to us and said it has nothing to do with the dvd firmware hack, but obviously it does. You can make this chip yourself for next to nothing, don't be fooled.
Read the news mate. Devil360 <> Devil Mod 360 (cheers mksoftware ^)
@ MR Buga Wuga("Right okay, this is my VERY first post, Im popping my cherry!
<---My cum face" BTW I'm still balancing the inaccuracies and GCloader, ICEmod etc stuff against the X-S posting legit stuf and (you'd think) not wanting to be burned.
As for the Devil360 in general: maybe they have a "chip", maybe they dont or maybe the truth is half way between.
Either way my 360 has 9.5 months of warranty left and after seeing my mate's spontaneously die the other day (he got his the day after me) I'm really not interested in farking with it until its proved its reliability.
- so I'm just happy to watch what happens.
and I want a cookie for reading the whole thread (23pages).
PS Quoting Mr Bunga... really borked the quote mechanism up
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 07, 2006, 10:57:00 PM
just some more of my $.02 worth.
Post by: littlestevie360 on June 07, 2006, 11:54:00 PM
QUOTE(nateh90 @ Jun 7 2006, 12:17 PM)
why would they be using version 1.3.33 of apache when apache is at release 2.2.2?? Seems a little odd to me.
I am a network admin and just a point to note standard training to get your cert points out that you use a version below standard release, standard buisiness practice, infact once when xbox-scene crashed i noticed they were using 1.3.3.3 they may have updated now
but the version behind current release is used because it is tried true and proven, and most bugs and insecurities have already been found and patched
most buisinesses folow this rule here in australia too. i for one do this for stability.
EDIT: i thought i might point out something, someone said that they think that it could be thru the SATA bus. i have news for ya, if it was to go thwu the sata bus without touching the firmware the SS for every game would have to be on the chip, the firmware says look at this sector on the disk for the SS, a man-in-the-middle couldnt say look here unless it sent a different signal to it (that would be time consuming). although i could be proven wrong on the hitachi drives as the xbox360 talks to the mn103 then calls the firmware for a how to, the sammy talks to the xbox360 thru the firmware chip. this is what i have been told by the code impailer anyway, this is why sammy (full writes) is pc programmable and hitachi (segmented write) is not, well the second is only tru if you dont know how to dodge the write routines.
Post by: iquid-!ce on June 08, 2006, 12:00:00 AM
QUOTE(LightningStruckMyXbox @ Jun 8 2006, 06:04 AM)
there is no way that devil360 would make first page news as many times as they have without being ligit. Can we please give our site admins more credit than we are. I could, no WOULD bet that they have some kind of prototype or picture/video of this chip in action. I don't think they would be stupid enough to announce a chip without proof.
just some more of my $.02 worth.
I remeber team ICE kept making front page news until about the fifth time of them saying theres another delay and the constant flames in the forum, only then did the mods say they would not put it on front page news until they had a sample or hard evidence, and all new threads to do with team ICE were closed straight away.
Of course they will put it on fron page news until it starts looking untrue, think of all the traffic coming to see if theres any new info, maybe clicking on one of the adds on the front page aswell
Post by: GeeZuzz on June 08, 2006, 12:40:00 AM
QUOTE(LightningStruckMyXbox @ Jun 8 2006, 07:04 AM)
I don't think they would be stupid enough to announce a chip without proof.
Agree... Right now xbox-scene.com is the only reason i have a little believe in this devil thing.
First - they posts news about it all the time, and appears to get it before anyone else (directly from devil360)
Second - administrator posted here and said that they did not post news about the fake ICE mod, without even commenting this mod.
Pretty weird stuff.
£iquid-!ce: I'm not sure about that they would gamble on that. They might get a rush now, but if (when) it turns out that this was fake they will loose a lot of readers, including me. They can't be the trusted news source like they used to be.
Post by: littlestevie360 on June 08, 2006, 12:48:00 AM
QUOTE(GeeZuzz @ Jun 8 2006, 04:47 PM)
Agree... Right now xbox-scene.com is the only reason i have a little believe in this devil thing.
First - they posts news about it all the time, and appears to get it before anyone else (directly from devil360)
Second - administrator posted here and said that they did not post news about the fake ICE mod, without even commenting this mod.
Pretty weird stuff.
£iquid-!ce: I'm not sure about that they would gamble on that. They might get a rush now, but if (when) it turns out that this was fake they will loose a lot of readers, including me. They can't be the trusted news source like they used to be.
agreed man its kinda trippin me out, altho i have a few problems with the info they have, there are flaws with it, and ther a people saying that the picture of the TSOP is proof but its not. just because the picture is called hacked hynix without LSA blah blah.jpeg dont mean anything i could take a pic of the ANA and say hacked ANA without lsa blah blah.jpg, my personal belief is that they are throwing people off the track so they can polish it.
i am sceptical sort of but at the same time they have a bit of authenticity as well (good vs evil lol)
only time will tell
Post by: Ubiquitous Dead on June 08, 2006, 01:08:00 AM
QUOTE(MR Buga Wuga @ Jun 8 2006, 01:28 AM)
Right okay, this is my VERY first post, Im popping my cherry!
<---My cum face I have been stalking these forums on X-S and Xboxhackers for quite some time now and have never posted due to lack of time ( I work extermely unsociable hours and work 6 and even 7 day weeks ). This is what I feel I have to get off my chest. Have *A*N*Y* of you moaning unappreciative little BASTARDS ever worked on something SO much, literally your 'heart and soul' was put into it? I have and I'm sure VIRTUALLY ALL of the more senior members have. Now relate this to Devil360.com. Yes, they did create hype hoping to give xb360 owners a ray of hope to boot "backups", unsigned code, and eventually lead the way to run linux and media centers etc at a time when not many had post good news for the xb360 scene. Devil360.com created the hype, and THEY ABOVE ALL WILL FEEL MOST DISAPPOINTED, more so than the screaming little brats on these forums! They wanted to release a product and of course they wanted to cash in - thats what business' are all about - TO MAKE MONEY! Now ALL of you pessimists out there answer this truthfully and honestly .. Q. Would pictures and/or videos and/or specific info really have made that much difference to your pessimism? I don't think it would. I imagine hundreds of thousands if not millions of people tried accessing devil360.com on 06-06-06 and nearly ALL felt anxious and let down by the devil360.com team for not having a working product. Relate that to the world - Q. How many of us have bought "faulty" products at a price above £50 / $30 ? I do ALL the time and I'm sick of it. I feel many companies release products FAR too prematurely without going through strict quality control leaving the end consumer disappointed and let down AFTER PARTING WITH MONEY! NO SINGLE PERSON HAS PARTED WITH *ANY* MONEY - and Devil360.com team have certainly not asked for any! So why the bitching?! Now would you rather Devil360.com take their time and ensure their product is all it promises to be AND more (meaning a delay in their products release), or would you rather have something that may or may not work in your hands now? I know what I would go for...
Best posting i read so far in this thread! Thumbs up Dude.
QUOTE(mr_wall @ Jun 8 2006, 01:48 AM)
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Exactly they created hype, but hype my friend is useless.
Hype is not Useless AT ALL!
1. It fuel's forum threads, just like this one.
2. And most important, it fuel's people, company's, hackers, inventors and all other people in knowledge of making mod's and hacks, to create stuff. Which means, that if this whole thing really is a hoax, then believe me, someone will come up with a modchip sooner, than they would have without this "hype"
Post by: Darkness_au on June 08, 2006, 04:17:00 AM
I think so, no diags, no pics, no info.. nothing..
Ill still be the 1st to cheer if its true, but c'mon.. anyone serious would at least have something up to back the claim..
They give no info or specifics at all..
Dodgy.
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 08, 2006, 04:39:00 AM
QUOTE
just because the picture is called hacked hynix without LSA blah blah.jpeg dont mean anything i could take a pic of the ANA and say hacked ANA without lsa blah blah.jpg
This is interesting. I'm positive this is an old picture of the Hynix chip (does anyone else get the urge to call it the Hymen chip?
) if so, why would they rename it like that unless they were just trying to fake things? I personally want to be open minded, but this should be discussed since it is a bit strange. Especially since the picture doesn't actually contain anything "odd", why take a photo of a chip that's been modded with no obvious change and name it so specifically? It just seems too strange to me.Edit: Oh and as for Apache version and the error page: I always use version 1.3.3, as most people do, because when it hit version 2 critical changes caused some things to not work, although modules like the PHP module now have versions that work with versions 2+ there's still a bit of apprehension for most people to switch. And have you not heard of custom error pages? That's a very common custom error page layout, simple, small, but informative.
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 08, 2006, 05:24:00 AM
According to discussion on free60.org some of the boot code/hypervisor may be on the Hynix TSOP, but it's encrypted, so unless Devil360 team managed to either A ) sniff out the encryption and decryption keys to modify code inside the TSOP, or B ) sniff out the decryption key and found away to disable decryption (so they could store non-encrypted data on the TSOP).
The way I see it the data in the TSOP is encrypted with a per Xbox key stored in the processor, to avoid a hack once - run anywhere attack. If they managed to get the processor to give up it's key (maybe using the programmable shaders to get access to the CPU registers somehow? although I doubt the key would be being processed while those shaders are in use, probably only once-on-boot processing) then they'd be able to decrypt/encrypt data on the TSOP. Problem is getting the key, MS didn't include a nice little "GiveUsEncryptionKey" processor command
Post by: littlestevie360 on June 08, 2006, 05:40:00 AM
QUOTE(Dark_Neo @ Jun 8 2006, 09:31 PM)
The error pages comment was directed at someone several pages back. Arch0n reminded me about it.
According to discussion on free60.org some of the boot code/hypervisor may be on the Hynix TSOP, but it's encrypted, so unless Devil360 team managed to either A ) sniff out the encryption and decryption keys to modify code inside the TSOP, or B ) sniff out the decryption key and found away to disable decryption (so they could store non-encrypted data on the TSOP).
The way I see it the data in the TSOP is encrypted with a per Xbox key stored in the processor, to avoid a hack once - run anywhere attack. If they managed to get the processor to give up it's key (maybe using the programmable shaders to get access to the CPU registers somehow? although I doubt the key would be being processed while those shaders are in use, probably only once-on-boot processing) then they'd be able to decrypt/encrypt data on the TSOP. Problem is getting the key, MS didn't include a nice little "GiveUsEncryptionKey" processor command
Thats not a proven fact that any of that information is actually on the TSOP. but if there is i think its just a passcode to say hey look at me im authorised to be used on this system. also for decrypting this data im sure M$ learned from bunny not to pass the decrpytion key down a bus outside of the prossesor, the information would more likely be transfered into an area that cannot be easily probed then decrypted and prossesed as for with the per-box key i doubt M$ have the key in the registers, remember one of the features of the PPC core 4-way lockable caches, most likely is that this key never leaves that cache but instead the bootcode runs thru the cache to be decrypted then the caches are locked away nicely protecting that key after that point, also the bios is most likely attached to this cache area so that the data can not be sniffed
BTW: dont take this personally anyone who is actually involved in the free60 project, i have this to say about them; yes they get alot of acurite information on how the system works, they do not completly get it right and have even exagerated in some cases.
EDIT: also if they could get that per-box key out of the CPU they could get the boot-strap, and with the boot-strap + per-box decryption key they could decrypt and decompile/ reverse engineer it. doing so would mean a lot more could have been done sooner
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 08, 2006, 06:23:00 AM
QUOTE
Thats not a proven fact that any of that information is actually on the TSOP. but if there is i think its just a passcode to say hey look at me im authorised to be used on this system. also for decrypting this data im sure M$ learned from bunny not to pass the decrpytion key down a bus outside of the prossesor, the information would more likely be transfered into an area that cannot be easily probed then decrypted and prossesed as for with the per-box key i doubt M$ have the key in the registers, remember one of the features of the PPC core 4-way lockable caches, most likely is that this key never leaves that cache but instead the bootcode runs thru the cache to be decrypted then the caches are locked away nicely protecting that key after that point, also the bios is most likely attached to this cache area so that the data can not be sniffed
BTW: dont take this personally anyone who is actually involved in the free60 project, i have this to say about them; yes they get alot of acurite information on how the system works, they do not completly get it right and have even exagerated in some cases.
EDIT: also if they could get that per-box key out of the CPU they could get the boot-strap, and with the boot-strap + per-box decryption key they could decrypt and decompile/ reverse engineer it. doing so would mean a lot more could have been done sooner
BTW: dont take this personally anyone who is actually involved in the free60 project, i have this to say about them; yes they get alot of acurite information on how the system works, they do not completly get it right and have even exagerated in some cases.
EDIT: also if they could get that per-box key out of the CPU they could get the boot-strap, and with the boot-strap + per-box decryption key they could decrypt and decompile/ reverse engineer it. doing so would mean a lot more could have been done sooner
Hmmm thought as much, I don't pretend to know how doing this would be possible, just speculating. Getting to the data inside the CPU is really the holy grail of 360 hacking.
Free60 project seems to be at a complete standstill as far as I can tell. To me it makes sense to store the bulkier parts of bootcode inside the TSOP, encrypted with the per Xbox key, decrypting it inside the processor, no external signals to probe. I'm not really sure what's involved with the booting of the 360 (specifically how much space that would take up) but I remember space was a critical issue for boot code in the previous Xbox (leading to most of the mistakes) so to me it sounds likely that they only put the really secure things inside the processor, the rest would have to be in another chip, the ATI chip already has a load of stuff to do anyway, so TSOP seems plausible to me. Although thinking from a security point of view, if it couldn't be fit in the processor the ATI chip is the best place for it, the bus speeds are too high for most equipment to probe.
Where are you getting your information from btw? If Free60 is a slightly "tainted" source I better not base all my understanding from the information there. I tend to stay away from forums because they get so bogged down with rubbish.
Post by: drpolish on June 08, 2006, 08:15:00 AM
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 08, 2006, 08:38:00 AM
QUOTE(Darkness_au @ Jun 8 2006, 03:24 AM)
sniff..sniff.. is that a steaming pile of bullshit i smell ?
I think so, no diags, no pics, no info.. nothing..
Ill still be the 1st to cheer if its true, but c'mon.. anyone serious would at least have something up to back the claim..
They give no info or specifics at all..
Dodgy.
They might have given it to the xbox-scene admins. That is a highly likely scenario.
Post by: elmo121 on June 08, 2006, 01:17:00 PM
i believe in devil 360 and wish them the best of luck
stop with all the negative vibes ppl, at the end of the day if it turns out fake, then well just have to wait till someone else figures out how to do it
and this time lets not all run to bunnie and expect him to have all the answers - he may be good, but im sure hacking the 360 is the only thing in his life
Post by: Morlok8k on June 08, 2006, 01:28:00 PM
QUOTE(Dark_Neo @ Jun 8 2006, 03:46 AM)
This is interesting. I'm positive this is an old picture of the Hynix chip (does anyone else get the urge to call it the Hymen chip? )
) does somebody have the urge to break that chips' cherry?
if they can modify the contents of the TSOP where the dashboard is at, we can eventually create our own dash, right?
Post by: DivyX on June 08, 2006, 04:13:00 PM
QUOTE
To me it makes sense to store the bulkier parts of bootcode inside the TSOP, encrypted with the per Xbox key, decrypting it inside the processor, no external signals to probe.
I agree on this.
QUOTE
and honestly how would a hacked TSOP help in this situ, remember this TSOP only holds the dash
The tsop contains more than "just" dash... dash is just one file amongst many others like bootanim.xex and mfgbootlauncher.xex, sure many dash's parts are in there also like marketplace etc.
Yeah i don't however see what it would accomplish either.
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 08, 2006, 04:36:00 PM
QUOTE(Morlok8k @ Jun 8 2006, 08:35 PM)
does somebody have the urge to break that chips' cherry?
if they can modify the contents of the TSOP where the dashboard is at, we can eventually create our own dash, right?
Hehehe nice someone thought that joke was funny
Problem is the way it's currently believed to work, modifying the contents of the TSOP would involve being able to run unsigned code, which would let us do a lot of things.
The dash is almost certainly signed, so no mods until the signing is bypassed.
Post by: eX_Do0mY on June 08, 2006, 09:27:00 PM
I don't know. Past experiences tell me that this is pure BS, but their unusual behavior (unusual compared to other proven fraudulent claims) tells me that they could actually have done it.
Post by: nuke field ET on June 08, 2006, 09:34:00 PM
QUOTE(eX_Do0mY @ Jun 8 2006, 10:34 PM)
^^FYI, site is back online now.
I don't know. Past experiences tell me that this is pure BS, but their unusual behavior (unusual compared to other proven fraudulent claims) tells me that they could actually have done it.
Well, think about it. The past claims, people have put out actual pictures of "mod chips" that were fake... If devil360 were faking this and really wanted to pull something off, they would've put out a picture claiming it as "proof", but they haven't done that. They're even saying it's not ready yet... So, in my opinion, especially considering xbox-scene reported the news repeatedly (also, they actually met the team), I think there's no doubt that it's legit.
Post by: obscure_detour on June 08, 2006, 11:18:00 PM
I highly doubt they would start now.
It's real.
obscure detour
Post by: iquid-!ce on June 09, 2006, 12:20:00 AM
QUOTE(obscure_detour @ Jun 9 2006, 06:25 AM)
I'll go ahead and say it. Xbox-Scene has never posted news about a fake chip before. They have however, only released news that a chip was fake.
I highly doubt they would start now.
It's real.
obscure detour
No they were posting news about the team ICE chip when that was going around, then they said they wouldnt post anything more about it until they had hard proof/ a sample of it after all the delays and exscuses team ICE made
Post by: ripper22 on June 09, 2006, 12:25:00 AM
Post by: littlestevie360 on June 09, 2006, 01:50:00 AM
QUOTE(Dark_Neo @ Jun 8 2006, 10:30 PM)
Hmmm thought as much, I don't pretend to know how doing this would be possible, just speculating. Getting to the data inside the CPU is really the holy grail of 360 hacking.
Free60 project seems to be at a complete standstill as far as I can tell. To me it makes sense to store the bulkier parts of bootcode inside the TSOP, encrypted with the per Xbox key, decrypting it inside the processor, no external signals to probe. I'm not really sure what's involved with the booting of the 360 (specifically how much space that would take up) but I remember space was a critical issue for boot code in the previous Xbox (leading to most of the mistakes) so to me it sounds likely that they only put the really secure things inside the processor, the rest would have to be in another chip, the ATI chip already has a load of stuff to do anyway, so TSOP seems plausible to me. Although thinking from a security point of view, if it couldn't be fit in the processor the ATI chip is the best place for it, the bus speeds are too high for most equipment to probe.
Where are you getting your information from btw? If Free60 is a slightly "tainted" source I better not base all my understanding from the information there. I tend to stay away from forums because they get so bogged down with rubbish.
thats what they thought about the xbox1 then a new lsa came out that was faster, another point to note they designed the XCPU from the ground up with IBM meaning the bootstrap could have the space tailered to it.
as for my sources, well they are secret and the information is not easily accessable on the net
, well not at all unless you hack my protected storage
Post by: bigjimmy on June 09, 2006, 04:57:00 AM
QUOTE
Who could ever thought that a Mico$oft! product would have security flaws!
Who wouldve thought!?
Post by: dstealth on June 09, 2006, 06:32:00 AM
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 09, 2006, 08:25:00 AM
QUOTE(littlestevie360 @ Jun 9 2006, 08:57 AM)
thats what they thought about the xbox1 then a new lsa came out that was faster, another point to note they designed the XCPU from the ground up with IBM meaning the bootstrap could have the space tailered to it.
as for my sources, well they are secret and the information is not easily accessable on the net
, well not at all unless you hack my protected storage*hacks protected storage* wait a minute.....this is all porn! *downloads anyway*
QUOTE
However we did not manage to get the product ready for today (6/6/6), because we are working hard on improving it to:
* Boot unsigned code
LOL.... I wonder what it does now.. nothing????!
* Boot unsigned code
LOL.... I wonder what it does now.. nothing????!
Have you read all of this thread? It's already been said several times that this could mean several things, either they are just stupid and haven't done anything, or they meant booting XEX files, right now they might have a modchip that allows small payloads of code to be executed, which is useful, but will need more work until XEX files are executable.
Post by: vadox6466 on June 09, 2006, 04:02:00 PM
What was the point?
Post by: sam1dog on June 09, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
QUOTE(vadox6466 @ Jun 9 2006, 11:09 PM)
i don't understand the point of this. What good does the guys behind the site get by faking a modchip? Some emails to spam (if ppl are gullible enough to put their email in that little box)?
What was the point?
Thats true, never thought about that. They probably did it just to spam our emails and make money of it.
Post by: lordazland on June 09, 2006, 04:59:00 PM
for the banter going back and forth...and you guys getting all worked up, just remember...
argueing on the internet is like running in the special olympics....
Post by: vadox6466 on June 09, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
QUOTE
What could happen if M$ would have made a hardware mistake?
We will communicate about this in the next 360 hours.
The next communication will include pictures of the de-capped chips and then some explanations about the console and a little bit more.
In the future we will only communicate with people who subscribed an email address
We will communicate about this in the next 360 hours.
The next communication will include pictures of the de-capped chips and then some explanations about the console and a little bit more.
In the future we will only communicate with people who subscribed an email address
so let's give them the 15 days to come up with something, which will probably not be anything significant, and let them spam the emails of whoever signs up for that...
Post by: Groundsworth on June 09, 2006, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: XSOLJA on June 10, 2006, 12:15:00 AM
QUOTE
lordazland, that is the best first time post I have ever read
yeah i second that
Post by: throwingks on June 10, 2006, 05:27:00 AM
[sarcasm]
Yeah, make fun of mentally handicapped people.
[/sarcasm]
Possibly the worst 1st post I have ever read.
Post by: Chamrock on June 10, 2006, 09:41:00 AM
It is ha damn hard time to wait for this! Come on! Don't fucking make us disappointed!
Post by: dstealth on June 10, 2006, 03:16:00 PM
QUOTE(Chamrock @ Jun 10 2006, 04:48 PM)
Gimme Gimme this crap ASAP!!!!!
It is ha damn hard time to wait for this! Come on! Don't fucking make us disappointed!
Trust me, do NOT get your hopes up. Their 'server' is still down and believe you me they will be in no hurry to get it up and running.
Post by: Flexmaster Frag on June 10, 2006, 07:57:00 PM
Post by: indiraider on June 10, 2006, 08:21:00 PM
Woah:
Post by: indiraider on June 10, 2006, 10:50:00 PM
Post by: sam1dog on June 11, 2006, 01:33:00 AM
Post by: mksoftware on June 11, 2006, 04:33:00 AM
QUOTE(sam1dog @ Jun 11 2006, 09:40 AM)
devil360 is a SCAM. They just want your email to make money off spamming them. They can barely get their servers up let alone a webpage. What a joke they are
How the hell do you know all that? We all don't know if it's scam, basicly because we don't have any information. Just wait how it turns out without flaming the forums with your pathetic talk.
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 11, 2006, 12:17:00 PM
QUOTE(sam1dog @ Jun 11 2006, 11:07 AM)
You are a freakin idiot. If you think devil360 is real. What a tool. You are a freakin idiot. THEY ARE A SCAM.
Wow look at you Mr. 24 posts.
I gave them my email address a LONG time ago. I have recieved not 1 spam mail or anything. They are not selling emails. No way. Just be patient and wait till june 20th. Nothing happens then you can complain.
Post by: rastiemon on June 11, 2006, 12:28:00 PM
So if you are a fuckin retard and can't read keep following your lil june 20th deadline.
I don't know if its fake or real. If its real Great! if its not oh well. No need to sit around on this forum all day and beg/bitch about it. Also who cares how many posts someone has, especially coming from someone who has been a member for less then a year. Puhlease.
Its about quality non quantity.
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 11, 2006, 10:06:00 PM
I BELIEVE! (for now)
Post by: sam1dog on June 11, 2006, 10:20:00 PM
QUOTE(LightningStruckMyXbox @ Jun 12 2006, 05:13 AM)
lol Didn't see the date you joined
I thought you were one of these other people who signed up just to say it's fake.
but still.....
I BELIEVE! (for now)
Its cool. Sorry I got ramped up. I hope it would be real but I'm almost postive its not.
Later
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 11, 2006, 10:30:00 PM
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 12, 2006, 12:12:00 PM
QUOTE(sam1dog @ Jun 12 2006, 03:42 PM)
Exactly, theres no need for that kind of bullshit. Its just mean, rude and disrespectful.
Sounds like the majority of this thread
If you post saying "it's fake" leave it at that, if you want to argue about why you think it's fake, then do it sensibly and with respect. It won't be long before we have "it's fake" "it's not" "yeh....well you're fat!"
Personally I'm still 50/50, it seems a bit dodgy, but I wasn't around when the Xbox was hacked, so I can't say what's normal in a first chip release. Also X-S haven't clarified any stance of neutrality, you'd think if they were just reporting it because it *might* be real, and they'd prefer to report it until it's proved fake, they'd at least say that they're keeping a neutral stance on it. That's my thoughts anyway.
Post by: Assimilator on June 14, 2006, 01:18:00 AM
i'm starting to wonder what has become of it all with xb-s refering to it in its news articles about the devil mod "that is not too be confused with"
Post by: dstealth on June 14, 2006, 04:34:00 AM
Post by: kjmc on June 14, 2006, 06:58:00 PM
Post by: LivHard on June 14, 2006, 07:07:00 PM
01000100 01000101 01010110 01001001 01001100 00110011 00110110 00110000 00100000 01000011 01000001 01001110 00100000 01010011 01010101 01000011 01001011 00100000 01001101 01011001 00100000 01000100 01001001 01000011 01001011 00100000 00100001 00001010 01001100 01101111 01101110 01100111 00100000 01001100 01101001 01110110 01100101 00100000 01001101 01100011 00110011 00110110 00110000
Yea, I mean everyBinary of it
Post by: rooter75 on June 15, 2006, 01:03:00 PM
Devil360 can burn in hell!
but if it is real then I'll definately be forced to buy one!!
even though I feel that it is not real
so back to the burning in hell thing!
Post by: Dark_Neo on June 17, 2006, 08:47:00 AM
QUOTE(Kafluke @ Jun 16 2006, 07:25 PM)
Also a big red flag is when they say that they are working out a few bugs like:
Homebrew capabilities
WTF! thats the whole purpose of a modchip. Thats like me announcing a new automobile and then saying:
I'm almost done, I just have to figure out how to get the thing to move.
Homebrew capabilities
WTF! thats the whole purpose of a modchip. Thats like me announcing a new automobile and then saying:
I'm almost done, I just have to figure out how to get the thing to move.
Am I the only person getting annoyed by people saying this again and again and again?
I do however agree that it is seeming a bit fishy with no updates, well time will tell!
Post by: gotheb1ues on June 19, 2006, 04:54:00 PM
Post by: MaTtY323 on June 20, 2006, 01:20:00 AM
Post by: robivy64 on June 20, 2006, 07:00:00 AM
*Boot unsigned code
*Rip Games to internal Hard Disk
*Add larger hard disk (all types IDE SATA SCSI MFI RAID)
*Make toast
*Processor speed select
*Inflatable girl
This chip requires no soldering and in fact just set it on top of your Xbox 360 and it will work. Unfortunately our servers are down... but....umm...we'll be back. Just wait m'kay?
Devil360 = fake
-R
Post by: XBXHKZ on June 20, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
Post by: rooter75 on June 20, 2006, 03:22:00 PM
QUOTE(rooter75 @ Jun 15 2006, 01:10 PM)
9 days down and no more info. I'm am so torn right now and I'll sum up my feelings by saying this:
Devil360 can burn in hell!
but if it is real then I'll definately be forced to buy one!!
even though I feel that it is not real
so back to the burning in hell thing! My feelings go as follows:
14 days down and no more info. I'm no longer torn.
Devil360 can burn in hell!
Obviously I won;t be buying one.
another lesson in following my gut instinct instead of my undying hope for all xbox goodness.
Post by: Maverick0984 on June 20, 2006, 03:27:00 PM
QUOTE(robivy64 @ Jun 20 2006, 08:07 AM)
I just released my own Mod Chip: The Superultramega360!! This Chip includes the following features:
*Boot unsigned code
*Rip Games to internal Hard Disk
*Add larger hard disk (all types IDE SATA SCSI MFI RAID)
*Make toast
*Processor speed select
*Inflatable girl
This chip requires no soldering and in fact just set it on top of your Xbox 360 and it will work. Unfortunately our servers are down... but....umm...we'll be back. Just wait m'kay?
Devil360 = fake
-R
hahahahaha
Post by: indiraider on June 20, 2006, 07:06:00 PM
QUOTE(Maverick0984 @ Jun 20 2006, 10:34 PM)
hahahahaha
whats bothers me the most is that a few MODS and leaders of Xbox-scene confirm that this is legit!
Maybe it is and they are going to actually announce something soon. If they are fake I would like a full explanation and appology from the mods on this thread and on the main page to the reader's of this site. What was this bullshit about the mods being silent and how that was supposed to mean they know something we don't? WTFUCK WAS THAT!! IF the team and chip were fake; we were led on to believe they were real and they never put down the rumors on this very thread that they were given some sort of proof through email. If a mod tells me right now that it will come soon and they will be recieving a mod chip, i will shut the fuck up but now after weeks of looking on this thread there is NOTHING new! I really want a new kind of hack to come out, because right now the Firmware hack is gay and very inconvinent. What I am trying to get at is that if we were told that we should not get out hopes up then I would be fine with it, but to come and make it seem like you have insider evidence is harsh and it also hurts to get your hopes up and be let down.
Post by: LightningStruckMyXbox on June 21, 2006, 02:04:00 AM
Post by: sowa99 on June 21, 2006, 02:06:00 AM
..IMO, devil find hole, but they still working to run unsigned code and other quests. X360 seciurity is very high, so wait for effect..
I have more to said, but my english is very bad and I can't
Post by: bubbathemaster on June 21, 2006, 07:39:00 AM
QUOTE(guile @ Jun 21 2006, 01:10 PM)
You act like somebody owes you something. You could go to another forum if it bothers you that much.
g
Nope. I think he's right. There were ads+news for the devil360. XS staff claimed that they knew that Ice was a scam from scratch, but always supported that devil360 like they knew something.
They owe something to us. A small "sorry, we were misguided by that devil360" or a photo of the modchip currently developed (but does anyone still believe in that crap ?
), but that's just not faire to have us waiting so much time and then just be silent around that fucking story.History repeats itself. I'd like to shoot those devil360 motherfuckers down and say "who's laughing now ?"
Post by: mikedavis2838 on June 21, 2006, 10:55:00 AM
QUOTE(sowa99 @ Jun 21 2006, 09:13 AM)
Why you think this is fake? Because relase should be 6/6/6? Sorry, but I don't see any other fact why this can be fake.. delay is normal
..I see it as the exact oposite, they have not give any facts to prove it is real. Anything would be enough really to make everyone settle down and give them a chance. a picture, brief description, even a comment on their site that isnt 2 weeks old. but they havnt done any of this.
Post by: KX250 on June 22, 2006, 12:43:00 PM
got my cousin to solder 29 wires on it. then he found out the wires were to big at the other end for the dvd rom .
if anyone know were i can get real thin wire from. like 1 strand of it pls let me know .
Post by: EvilCloudStrife on June 22, 2006, 02:02:00 PM
Post by: KX250 on June 22, 2006, 02:37:00 PM
QUOTE(EvilCloudStrife @ Jun 22 2006, 09:09 PM)
i hope their site gets updated soon. If its not real, i am not buying a xbox 360 until a real modchip or softmod comes around. Which might be a while
well if your going on about devilmod 360 i can say it is reel cause i have one sitting here infront of me
Post by: mikedavis2838 on June 22, 2006, 04:24:00 PM
QUOTE(240sx_god @ Jun 22 2006, 11:17 PM)
anyone else realize that there are now 28 pages of people talking in circles. i end up coming back and reading every damn whiney post you guys make hoping it's ACTUAL info. you new whiney pov's are not helping the dev. of this chip. and if it's not real it's obviously not a money scam (they aren't accepting any) so if it is a scam they just want to cause unrest....sadly i know this won't stop any of you from whining anymore, just realize you guys are a large part of the problem at this point.
If you worked to try and create something this revoloutionary, then faced last minute problems and received this much negative feedback from the community would you even want your site back up? would you want the forum full of shit-talkers to be the one to announce the release.....better yet when's the last time you made anything other than a mess in your shorts.
ok im done now
Actually, I think yours is the most whiney post so far.
Post by: RX3 on June 22, 2006, 06:23:00 PM
QUOTE(KX250 @ Jun 22 2006, 12:44 PM)
well if your going on about devilmod 360 i can say it is reel cause i have one sitting here infront of me
LOL dude you better stop before you hose your Xbox. You obviously don't know what your doing and better do some more research.
Post by: indiraider on June 22, 2006, 07:08:00 PM
QUOTE(240sx_god @ Jun 22 2006, 11:17 PM)
anyone else realize that there are now 28 pages of people talking in circles. i end up coming back and reading every damn whiney post you guys make hoping it's ACTUAL info. you new whiney pov's are not helping the dev. of this chip. and if it's not real it's obviously not a money scam (they aren't accepting any) so if it is a scam they just want to cause unrest....sadly i know this won't stop any of you from whining anymore, just realize you guys are a large part of the problem at this point.
If you worked to try and create something this revoloutionary, then faced last minute problems and received this much negative feedback from the community would you even want your site back up? would you want the forum full of shit-talkers to be the one to announce the release.....better yet when's the last time you made anything other than a mess in your shorts.
ok im done now
Listen ASSBAG, Idefinitly agree with the poster right after yours, your post is a whiney piece of shit. Even though you claim to read OUR posts we are not "whining" about the fact that the DEVIL 360 devs supposivly sought out to or made a hack for the 360, but we are whining about TWO things:
1. The fact that the team did not give us ANY new news since 6/6/06. They could have beenlike this: "Listen we fucked up and we were supposed to release something but we can't for some reason". They could have even said how long they will post info either "we are not going to release something", or "we will get back to you soon in 2 weeks". Even if these two weeks come they could either post a pic, reveal some info, or/and give us another time frame.
Instead the team acted like BITCHES they post cryptic messages filled with bullshit everone knows already (1st post)
They give us a stupid time frame (360 hours) that they never meet (2nd Post)
Then they tell us they are working to make the most BASIC of features for a modchip, which implies they have nothing (3rd post)
ATLEAST TEAM ICE TOLD US INFO WITH BOGUS MOVIES AND PICTURES
2. On Xbox-scene the mods posted info on the main page without a warning that it might be fake. On THIS forum 1 mod (a few pages back) tells us its real and to be patient. Which naturally keeps our hopes up. To top this off, we get no "Sorry we thought it was real" or the reason they thought it is real.
If Both Team devil and the mods @ Xbox-scene do what I notted in #s 1+2 then we will stop "whining". So FUCK you.
EDIT: Also stop with the "HAHAHA I have it right in front of me" guys it is so lame and unfunny. So stop being gay and saying that shit.
Post by: indiraider on June 22, 2006, 07:19:00 PM
QUOTE(Flexmaster Frag @ Jun 11 2006, 03:04 AM)
Learn some patience...
Whats up with that???????????????????????
Post by: kawaxbox on June 24, 2006, 08:00:00 AM
If its not reall then why wont the moderators or even the admins do anything about it just like they "shit" listed the ice modchip??
and if its reall well like eveyone says time will tell (although its been like 3 weeks and no news heard)
so just quit posting, we dont need the whole of x-s members posting in the same saying one person says its reall and the other says its not.
KawaXbox
Post by: Chancer on June 24, 2006, 08:41:00 AM
As for all these comments about the Mods etc here. The situation is this frequently we see news articles from the front page reproduced here for comment. As with all news some may turn out to all be 100 percent accurate some may not.
You all know me with anything. I never believe anything till I have confirmation its here.
There seems to be no point in people just posting I believe or I don't believe etc. It makes no difference what anyone believes the simple fact still remains there is no Devil 360 Modchip at this time.
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