Post by: Xbox-Scene on January 09, 2007, 10:51:00 PM
(CES07) Warner Officially Announces Total Hi Def Hybrid Disc Posted by XanTium | January 10 00:15 EST |
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Post by: mlmadmax on January 09, 2007, 10:04:00 PM
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Post by: jizmo on January 09, 2007, 11:52:00 PM
Also, very interesting to hear that the cost of the disc materials and pressing is the same as usual discs'. One could easily think that more complex process would take more refined materials and much more elaborate (=expensive) equipment.
That being said, I think it's a really great invention and a big mess at the same time. All I know that the companies should've really agreed on one format in the first place. It's all getting a bit too confusing.
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Post by: pennywisdom on January 09, 2007, 11:59:00 PM
Post by: incredipinoy on January 10, 2007, 12:22:00 AM
Post by: Corporal Mantis on January 10, 2007, 01:36:00 AM
Post by: icedemon360 on January 10, 2007, 02:34:00 AM
Post by: fanle on January 10, 2007, 03:43:00 AM
u get a dual format player so u can play both formats so u get all the movies available and they release a disk with both formats on it
I really dont c the point in this at all
Post by: luther349 on January 10, 2007, 05:22:00 AM
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Post by: bucko on January 10, 2007, 04:59:00 AM
Post by: twistedsymphony on January 10, 2007, 05:27:00 AM
QUOTE(bucko @ Jan 10 2007, 07:06 AM) 
Better imho, if you have a 360 & HD-DVD player and a PS3 for Blu-Ray and if one format goes kaput then you won't lose your investment or have to buy another format. ...
How exactly do you figure?
The actual media itself is far more of an investment then the player... Spending $200 on an HD-DVD drive for the 360, I only have to buy a handful of discs before I've got more of an investment in the discs then in the player... if HD-DVD goes "kaput" then I wont be able to find new HD-DVD players and the media I bought I'll have to re-buy in BluRay if I want to keep watching those films in every day devices like PCs, or next-next generation consoles, etc.
As someone who buys a whole lot of discs media this whole thing is VERY important to me... my DVD movie collection just past the 370 mark mostly special/limited editions... Some of it I have no problem leaving in DVD, but there are probably 50-100 films that I WILL buy in an HD format, as well as new releases that I'm not buying in any format as I wait for a clear signal which way this war is turning out.
That much media is a serious investment and it goes beyond just owning both players now... how future proof is that media?
Post by: 0794 on January 10, 2007, 06:40:00 AM
QUOTE(twistedsymphony @ Jan 10 2007, 06:34 AM)
How exactly do you figure?
The actual media itself is far more of an investment then the player... Spending $200 on an HD-DVD drive for the 360, I only have to buy a handful of discs before I've got more of an investment in the discs then in the player... if HD-DVD goes "kaput" then I wont be able to find new HD-DVD players and the media I bought I'll have to re-buy in BluRay if I want to keep watching those films in every day devices like PCs, or next-next generation consoles, etc.
As someone who buys a whole lot of discs media this whole thing is VERY important to me... my DVD movie collection just past the 370 mark mostly special/limited editions... Some of it I have no problem leaving in DVD, but there are probably 50-100 films that I WILL buy in an HD format, as well as new releases that I'm not buying in any format as I wait for a clear signal which way this war is turning out.
That much media is a serious investment and it goes beyond just owning both players now... how future proof is that media?
He means that if you own these new hybrid discs, it doesn't matter which player breaks or format wins because the disc you have can be played on either player. It's sad that 2 formats exist, but this hybrid does solve the major problem of compatibility.
I just can't wait for the day we don't need discs anymore and media is distributed digitally on broadband and stored on hard drives - kind of like a HTPC or modded xbox. I rip my DVD collection as I buy them to store on such devices. Having access to dozens or hundreds of files with no loading time is wonderful - can't remember the last time I waited for a media disc to load...
Post by: sinister slipknot on January 10, 2007, 08:54:00 AM
QUOTE(pennywisdom @ Jan 10 2007, 07:06 AM)
doesnt something like this somewhat defeat the entire purpose of the format war?
I think thats the point, many companies have invested into both formats, so it sorts of saves a group from potentially losing millions.
QUOTE(fanle @ Jan 10 2007, 10:50 AM)
erm what is the point
u get a dual format player so u can play both formats so u get all the movies available and they release a disk with both formats on it
I really dont c the point in this at all
Yeah but what if you have a dual format player and you bought a HD DVD and took it to watch at a friend's who only has a blu-ray player? If you buy a dual format disc then it works everywhere, and is the better solution.
Post by: Virtucon on January 10, 2007, 08:55:00 AM
Post by: feflicker on January 10, 2007, 09:58:00 AM
I know there will be flames saying "that would never work" and "companies are in it for money and licensing", etc. but still, something like this needs to be done. What's going to happen next time, 3 different formats? Then 4? It's a slippery slope.
Post by: barn606 on January 10, 2007, 11:10:00 AM
Post by: Helliano on January 10, 2007, 11:24:00 AM
Since now Xbox 360(MS) and Playstation 3(Sony) can have a real war.
By that i mean price on games functions etc etc.
Even the formats improving HD-DVD improving Blu-Ray without the costumer getting wanked for just owning one player.
Bad side is format war wont end, but whata heck those lazy developers need some pressure.
Post by: silentbob343 on January 10, 2007, 01:27:00 PM
QUOTE(feflicker @ Jan 10 2007, 01:05 PM)
There needs to be some sort of consortia formed, of media companies and tech firms, and they need to just govern these types of decisions already. That way there could have just been a vote, one format would have won this round, and the consumers wouldn't be put in this crappy situation.
I know there will be flames saying "that would never work" and "companies are in it for money and licensing", etc. but still, something like this needs to be done. What's going to happen next time, 3 different formats? Then 4? It's a slippery slope.
They already have;
HD DVD Alliance and you have the Blu Ray Disc Alliance. Each alliance is filled with over 100 tech and multimedia companies.
I agree with what others have already sais, it drags out the "format war" leaving no clear winner. Early adopters are used to getting burned, or at least they should be, as that is price for being on the bleeding edge of technology.
Post by: dhrandy1 on January 10, 2007, 04:00:00 PM