Post by: gmgriot on December 10, 2002, 10:04:00 PM
Post by: wazza1987 on January 23, 2003, 02:23:00 PM
Post by: jmelendez on November 06, 2002, 12:50:00 PM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:26 PM
Post by: Ace25 on November 06, 2002, 01:00:00 PM
Post by: jmelendez on November 06, 2002, 01:13:00 PM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:26 PM
Post by: jmelendez on November 06, 2002, 06:59:00 PM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:26 PM
Post by: cykiller on November 07, 2002, 03:40:00 AM
Post by: rjm2k on November 07, 2002, 03:05:00 AM
1. The ftp server in EvolutionX is crap.
2. Writing is slower than reading because the box has to write to the disk/modify the FAT entries etc etc. With reading, it just pulls them off. It could be that the filesystem is designed for very few (and therefore slow) writes but very many (and therefore fast) reads.
3. Fragmentation on the drive.
4. Poor quality NIC. I have some cheap Realtek cards in my pc's and have found that with some os's I need to disable full duplex in order for them to give any decent transfer speeds. Maybe the XBOX Nic just isn't upto the job.
5. The ip stack, I believe the xbox ip stack was designed to only talk to other xboxes and in fact to refuse to communicate with anything other than xboxes- Perhaps this causes problems when talking to non-xboxes, which could explain why sending to the box (where the box receives a lot of data from a non-xbox) is slower than receiving from it (where most of the traffic is being sent by the xbox). - I guess that an xbox to xbox transfer using xb-ftp or whatever the client is called could possibly show this up by running at full speed compared to a pc > xbox transfer.
Post by: jmelendez on November 07, 2002, 05:17:00 AM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:26 PM
Post by: aragorn on November 07, 2002, 05:40:00 AM
Post by: jmelendez on November 07, 2002, 05:45:00 AM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:27 PM
Post by: jsm on November 07, 2002, 06:00:00 AM
As for me I plug my xbox to my pc using a 20 feet cross over cable on a realtek nic wich only connect at 10 mb/s on winxp. I have a WD 100gb 7200 and transfers are 3/8 mbps.
Post by: jmelendez on November 07, 2002, 06:10:00 AM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:27 PM
Post by: flagg on November 07, 2002, 11:04:00 AM
Attenuation
XBox circuitry
R/W To Hard Drive
100Mbps is what the card is capable of doing MAX! Depending on the quality of the NICS and cable you may not always achieve maximum transfer rate. The xbox NIC is intended to be connected to a DSL/Cable modem, which at most would be 1.5/384, maybe 3mb down on cable) So you are trying to get 100MB throughput, and I would bet that M$ used the cheapeast NIC available, because no one intended it to ever need 100mb throughput.
Post by: jmelendez on November 08, 2002, 05:24:00 AM
This post has been edited by jmelendez: Dec 12 2002, 03:27 PM
Post by: aragorn on November 08, 2002, 06:07:00 AM
Post by: ruffles_x on November 08, 2002, 06:58:00 AM
100GB IBM Deskstar 7200 on XBOX
80GB IBM Deskstar 7200 on PC
Cheap $40 100mbps CNet 8-Port Switch
Intel NIC on PC
I think im getting really good speeds, hope this info help
Post by: Powurst on November 08, 2002, 08:30:00 AM
I have exchanged original Seagate HDD to WD 80Gb, 7200rpm. When sending data from XBox to PC i have about 9 mB/s, as far as Flashfxp tells me. If I send to the XBox I only have between 450 and 500 kB/s, at least that's what Flash tells me. If I clock the transfers I come to a smimilar calculation. It seems that writing data is harder for the XBox than reading it, which sounds reasonable.
I would like to know if there's a difference when you connect from XBox via a FTP-Client and suck data to the Box instead of pushing it there.
If anyone has ever tried, let me know, please.
I wouldn't guess its's a HD matter, because ANY modern HD should easily write up to 3 mB/s.
Regards, Powurst
Post by: vwadam on November 08, 2002, 08:43:00 AM
if this isnt the case then i think its certainly dependent on the pc being used. i noticed when i started multitasking on my pc the speed slowed instantly like open a file , speed drops for a sec. etc. perhaps if we could make an upload buffer greater than 4096bytes.
Post by: fishfish on November 08, 2002, 05:55:00 PM
Post by: Gwith on November 09, 2002, 09:56:00 AM
I run Windows 2000 Pro, FlashFXP and GrabIt for a newsreader. I found sometimes when transferring to the Xbox that it would be 400-450k/sec.... and sometimes it would be 2.5 - 3MB/sec. Quite a difference! I noticed that it was only fast when I had my news reader open...
I don't know why, but I can be in the middle of a 2 gb transfer to my Xbox going at 450k/sec and then I open up my news reader and it becomes 2,500k/sec and higher... try it, odd, but worked for me!
I have an 80Gb Maxtor 7200 rpm drive in my Xbox, no heat probs and downloading from the Xbox I get between 9Mb/sec and 12Mb/sec ....depends on the files I'm downloading. Obviously, titles with more and smaller files are slower and titles with very large files and fewer of them are faster.
Anyhow, just my two cents, hope it helps someone out there.
--G--
Post by: Mupsy on November 26, 2002, 04:08:00 PM
For some reason i got a speed of 4mb Then i played a game and tried again but since then no luck. Still the slow upload.
Post by: Dr. Baltz on November 27, 2002, 12:58:00 AM
Post by: ekengren on November 27, 2002, 02:29:00 AM
..yes, now i've earned it.
Post by: blackout_19 on November 27, 2002, 06:54:00 AM
From xbox to pc - over 9 MegaBYTES per second
From pc to xbox - over 3 MegaBYTES per second
This is with a standard hard drive (Seagate)
Post by: Cornholio on November 27, 2002, 09:50:00 AM
I've already discovered that I get much faster speeds from a 5400 80GB Seagate than I do from a 7200 120GB WD. But some other guy said he saw the opposite happen with the same drives.
I'm wondering... perhaps some drives are not very good at detecting what speed to run at. Some manufacturers supply little utils to set your drive to certain modes. I wonder if a drive will work better with the Xbox if you physically tell it to run at UDMA/33.... something to try perhaps ?
Post by: SpankMyXbox on November 27, 2002, 10:50:00 AM
Post by: kava on November 27, 2002, 05:49:00 PM
I have looked into thsi quite a bit as I was getting really bad speeds. I set up my own little case study here:
http://forums.xbox-s...=16&t=12412&hl=
Basically, I can shed some ligth on the following:
The operating system matters
- I have never been able to get good FTP speeds out of either NT or Win98
- I have got good speeds out of 2K (3MB up, 9MB down)
- I have not tried XP
The NIC matters
- I have used an identical system with different NICs and there was a difference
- cheap nics result in slow speeds.
The FTP client matters
- I have tried the following FTP clients: FlashFXP, Cute FTP, WS_FTP, and Secure FX
- FlashFXP was the best by a long shot
The network doesnt seem to matter
- I tried a crossover cable vs a switch vs a moderately congested network
- there was no real difference
- the other three factors above made a much more significant effect than the network.
Post by: manschadow on November 28, 2002, 03:55:00 AM
| QUOTE (gmgriot @ Nov 28 2002, 08:34 AM) |
| Also noticed drive ftp speed differences. Not conclusive but 60gig 7200 IBM faster than stock WD, New Maxtor 80gig 5400 slowest. Maxtor speeds FlashFXp ~800kb SmartFTP ~1000kb Commander ~15000-2000kb |
Yes I have Seagate 80 gb 5400 and I only get 800-1300 k/sec in flash fxp, but I have a Realtek network Card 10/100 Mbit.
Post by: trax on November 30, 2002, 04:42:00 AM
Post by: gmgriot on December 03, 2002, 08:09:00 AM
Strange thing, pushing start "to get option menu" makes transfer faster? says 7000kb/s but really isnt that fast.
Still not as fast as total commander 5.50.
Post by: the_Watchers_eye on December 03, 2002, 08:28:00 AM
I was using the old build 900. Upgraded to 902 and now 904 and the speed just got better. [all are version 2]
And present getting speeds of 2.5MB/s sending from pc to xbox. Using a temp cheap 40MB Seagate HD in my PC [got to order another one]
From xbox to pc I get about 9MB/s
Am happy with these speeds.
By the way I got a cheapy realtek nic card.
Post by: Muzzakus on December 03, 2002, 07:29:00 PM
The HDD itself and the fatx file system is not the factor. Rip a dvd using boxplorer to the HDD and it flies along. So writing is spot on. Do ftp writes to it and it's slow as crap.
I have 60 gig Maxtor 7200 rpm.
It all seem very very random. I hope some wizes persever and can come up if not with a solution, then at least a solid reason so we can all stop tearing out hair out.
Muzzakus.
Post by: Joker-X on December 04, 2002, 02:23:00 AM
Post by: Joker-X on December 04, 2002, 05:03:00 AM
Post by: gainpresence on December 04, 2002, 04:05:00 PM
Post by: Joker-X on December 05, 2002, 01:52:00 AM
I'm just happy it's not 2kb a second anymore.
Post by: inciter on December 05, 2002, 08:10:00 AM
Think someone should go over to ( dslreports ) and see if one of the tech wizards can come up with a good explanation. I guess the major problem is going to be so many users have differant setups that getting a universal answer is going to be hard
I have tweaked my settings and I get 1megabit over the internet with the dsl hookup. Mabey somewere in the tweaks lies the answer for these slow xfers some seem to have troubles with.
anyway not to over insult this board but dslreports is a very heavy tech visited site and not to head strong.