Post by: Cpas on March 31, 2007, 10:16:00 PM
This new liveCD have now a full desktop, a powerpc64 toolchain environment and should work great for a liveCD. Unfortunately, support for Samsung drives and sound drivers are still missing.
Please report any problem/bug you may found !
You will find the download link on the free60 wiki located at http://www.free60.org/
(IMG:http://mydedibox.homelinux.com/gentooxlivecd2.png)
CODE
gentoo-livecd-xenon-beta
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This is a liveCD for Linux on the Xbox 360. It is based on the experimental
gentoo liveCD that can be found here :
http://gentoo.mirrors.pair.com/experimental/ppc64/livecd/
It has a few changes to boot on the Xbox 360 (codename xenon).
Currently, Samsung drives aren't supported, there is no sound driver,
and you should use vga output for better results.
This liveCD is build with the new xenosfb driver so it have a full
gnome desktop. It also contains the powerpc64 toolchain for
developers.
How does it work ?
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Burn gentoo-livecd-xenon-beta.iso.
Upload the cdreader binary via serial, or use the new king kong patcher
with built-in readcd code, this will open the dvd tray.
Put the gentoo-livecd-xenon-beta CD in the drive.
cdreader will automatically start the xell bootloader located at lba 0x20 on
this cd and boot the Linux Kernel.
Where to find more info on Linux for Xbox 360 :
===============================================
http://www.free60.org/
Free60 is a project towards porting GNU/Linux, BSD, Darwin and related
open-source operating systems to the Microsoft Xbox 360 video game console.
Thanks to :
===========
- Felix alias tmbinc, coded the cdreader binary and xell bootloader, without
him, nothing would be possible.
- Stonersmurf, did the ISO mastering and gave his help and support on a lot of
things, many thanks to him.
- The free60.org team.
Cheers,
Cpasjuste.
Microsoft, Xbox, Xbox360 (and probably some more) are registered trademarks by
Microsoft Corp. No affiliation between the Free60 Project and Microsoft Corp.
exists or is implied. All other trademarks and copyrights are
property of their respective owners.
This post has been edited by Cpas: Apr 1 2007, 05:22 AM
Post by: StrictPuppet on April 01, 2007, 01:46:00 AM
I have kernel 4532.
Patched the KK iso with the new readcd code.
Load up the game, press start, screen goes black and tray ejects.
I insert this new Gentoo Livecd, close the tray either by pushing it shut or the eject button.
Nothing happens. It just sits on a black screen, I hear the disc spin up once and thats it.
I have tried this gentoo on both a cd and a dvd.
One other bit of info. I realise this doesnt work with samsung drives, this box has a hitachi 46dg.
However it was originally a samsung ms28, so the hitachi that is in there has the firmware spoofed to report as an ms28 otherwise it throws an e66 error code.
My question is, is the reason this isnt working due to poor media, a fault in the .iso, because of the crossflashed drive, or am I just plain old missing something here?
Post by: seaweed on April 01, 2007, 03:56:00 AM
Post by: HoRnEyDvL on April 01, 2007, 05:56:00 AM
Post by: oldspice on April 01, 2007, 12:52:00 PM
QUOTE(StrictPuppet @ Apr 1 2007, 03:53 AM) 
Question for you Cpas....
I have kernel 4532.
Patched the KK iso with the new readcd code.
Load up the game, press start, screen goes black and tray ejects.
I insert this new Gentoo Livecd, close the tray either by pushing it shut or the eject button.
Nothing happens. It just sits on a black screen, I hear the disc spin up once and thats it.
I have tried this gentoo on both a cd and a dvd.
One other bit of info. I realise this doesnt work with samsung drives, this box has a hitachi 46dg.
However it was originally a samsung ms28, so the hitachi that is in there has the firmware spoofed to report as an ms28 otherwise it throws an e66 error code.
My question is, is the reason this isnt working due to poor media, a fault in the .iso, because of the crossflashed drive, or am I just plain old missing something here?
I was in the same boat as you earlier, I had a samsung ms25 originally and swapped it out for a hitach 59 drive. What worked for me was just burning the gentoo disc at a slower speed (2-2.4x) and it booted right away (used a CD-R). Hope that helps.
Post by: StrictPuppet on April 01, 2007, 04:10:00 PM
QUOTE(oldspice @ Apr 1 2007, 11:23 AM)
I was in the same boat as you earlier, I had a samsung ms25 originally and swapped it out for a hitach 59 drive. What worked for me was just burning the gentoo disc at a slower speed (2-2.4x) and it booted right away (used a CD-R). Hope that helps.
Well it ended up being the media i finally got it to work using a DVD+RW infact I am typing this right now from the 360 please excuse the punctuation and spelling the keyboard layout is somehow wrong its very hard to find the right letters
*edit* just had to change the keyboard model and layout to english(us), it was set to a non-north american one by default
This post has been edited by StrictPuppet: Apr 2 2007, 02:39 AM
Post by: oldspice on April 01, 2007, 05:54:00 PM
QUOTE(StrictPuppet @ Apr 1 2007, 05:41 PM)
Well it ended up being the media i finally got it to work using a DVD+RW infact I am typing this right now from the 360 please excuse the punctuation and spelling the keyboard layout is somehow wrong its very hard to find the right letters
Whew I thought it was just my keyboard that was messed up, was just going to buy a new one tomarrow - glad to know its not just me.
Post by: Tomobobo on April 01, 2007, 10:23:00 PM
So those who are using serial cables are able to boot the cd with samsung drives?
Post by: Deihmos on April 01, 2007, 10:56:00 PM
Post by: pancus on April 01, 2007, 10:58:00 PM
Post by: JimmyGoon on April 01, 2007, 11:41:00 PM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:03 AM)
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
You're kidding right? Now people can legally develop for the 360 console and now we have access to the countless games, applications, emulators that are already available with linux... now to get ubuntu on there.
Post by: mylakerye on April 01, 2007, 11:44:00 PM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:03 AM)
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
What is the point of a negative comment like this? What have you done to improve the Xbox 360 Scene in anyway? I bet once the minds behind this crack the 360 and we can emulate N64 and playstation at full speed you'll want a slice of the cake. This is a very huge leap for 360 homebrew so instead of flaunting your ignorance to everyone that doesn't care, try shutting up.
Anyone with half an interest in the advance of 360 homebrew is interested in this!
Good work guys keep it up (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
Post by: Deihmos on April 01, 2007, 11:48:00 PM
QUOTE(JimmyGoon @ Apr 2 2007, 12:12 AM)
You're kidding right? Now people can legally develop for the 360 console and now we have access to the countless games, applications, emulators that are already available with linux... now to get ubuntu on there.
Did you read the requirements to actually get it done? Plus you can never use Live again on the xbox plus it's far from legal. Most people don't have that specific firmware anymore so right now it's better to use a PC than to go through all the trouble to do this.
This post has been edited by Deihmos: Apr 2 2007, 06:52 AM
Post by: tx81 on April 01, 2007, 11:23:00 PM
Post by: joe90 on April 02, 2007, 12:59:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:19 AM)
Did you read the requirements to actually get it done? Plus you can never use Live again on the xbox plus it's far from legal. Most people don't have that specific firmware anymore so right now it's better to use a PC than to go through all the trouble to do this.
At the moment.. just give it time.. now they have access to the machine, they can work out ways around these issues.. Then you will want a slice of the cake.. These things take one step at a time.
Post by: openxdkman on April 02, 2007, 01:56:00 AM
Post by: seaweed on April 02, 2007, 02:23:00 AM
Ive tried "blank" and ive tried some "regular" passwords, but it stil wont let me log in as root, any ideas?
Edit: Found out how,,,,used "sudo passwd" and set a new password (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
I need to change the network settings, and i have to be logged in as root to do this right?
Another thing,,,how long do you think it will take until someone writes a working sound driver?
This post has been edited by seaweed: Apr 2 2007, 09:35 AM
Post by: d-range on April 02, 2007, 02:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 07:03 AM)
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
You obviously have no idea how homebrew on the Xbox 1 (or on *any* other console for that matter) started out. And even then: why does it even matter to you how many people are actually interested in this? Consoles don't get hacked to be useful to *you* (or to anyone in particular) you know? Usually the people who hack it first only hack it for fun, to learn stuff and to prove to the manufacturer that no protection is unbreakable. Comments like yours don't belong in a console hacking forum, so next time you can safely keep your thoughts to yourself ok?
This post has been edited by d-range: Apr 2 2007, 09:32 AM
Post by: raid517 on April 02, 2007, 03:20:00 AM
Also is it possible that we will ever have all we need on a single bootable CD/DVD?
I mean changing the DVD is not so bad I suppose, but it still isn't ideal.
Also is this version installable on the 360 hard drive?
Lastly, since I am stuck with two Samsung drives on both the 360's I have access to, can a compatible drive be bought? Can I just buy a drive from somewhere and install it - or is it somehow locked in the firmware to the XBox in question?
Thanks in advance for any answers anyone can give.
PS
Anyway I think it's nuts to say that you can't get any use out of this. To my eyes it's a potentially very powerful media center replacement. I don't give a crap about Xbox live, or games. I have owned an XBox1 for several years and I think in all that time I might have played three games on it - and perhaps then for only 10 minutes at a time - and almost certainly never on live.
My XBox 1 was/is a dedicated media center and media server, which far surpasses anything else that is currently available from even the biggest of the hard ware manufacturers around.
If my 360 can serve the same function - but perhaps eventually support true high definition and mass storage too, then I will simply retire my old XBox 1 and use the 360 as my main media hub instead.
Anyway why on earth are people who question the value and legality of XBox hacking posting on the XBox-scene forum? That my sadly misinformed friends, was pretty much the main reason that this forum was created. Look at all the XBox hacker groups that are here. If Xbox/console hacking doesn't interest you, I suggest you go away and find some other less ambitious forum, with other like minded peoplelike you who probably wouldn't know what an ISO was, or what shaders were, or even perhaps what Linux might be.
This post has been edited by raid517: Apr 2 2007, 10:40 AM
Post by: mickik on April 02, 2007, 03:38:00 AM
Post by: tser360 on April 02, 2007, 03:59:00 AM
Meanwhile, copy all required files (livecd, image.squash) to an usb stick or usb harddisk, and make _sure_ those file are in lowercase.
Then burn a cd, based upon the original livecd, without the squash file, but with an replacement kernel for USB (somewhere floating around also)
Then, Boot Kingkong, Connect USB drive. Press start, Insert modified linux disk.
*wait* until the penquins apears, this can take some little time.
Then, Unplug the sata cable of the samsung (at your own risk!).
You will see some exceptions, but you can go ahead with it.
Now the Bootloaderwill detect your usbdrive and procceeds with booting from that.
Note that usb support is far from stable. So don't try to install a complete gentoo on your usb disc, as it will crash.
Post by: forzadude2 on April 02, 2007, 03:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:03 AM) 
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
Just like nobody were interested in homebrew on the original XBOX? Yeah right...
Post by: jacksback on April 02, 2007, 04:48:00 AM
I have a question
Can someone tell me how to do the following, if it's possible.
I have a faulty Xbox 360 Hard Drive which I want to open up and swap out with another "non Xbox" 40 or 80 gig drive. I want to still use the same 360 Hard Drive case but obviously have a standard sata drive in it. Is it possible to then load Linux on this hard drive and boot it while it's connected to my Xbox 360?
Thanks
Post by: Hopeful on April 02, 2007, 04:51:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:03 AM)
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
Are you retarded?
What are you doing on a 360 hacking site if you're not interested in any real "hacking" aka homebrew?
You're just mad because you're a simple worthless pirate and the emphasis is shifting AWAY from keeping firmware hacks working.
News for you: "Backups" has NEVER been the scene's main focus. It was only the main focus for a while because it was closer to homebrew than nothing, now homebrew is breaking surface and taking its rightful place, so go cry elsewhere.
From now on do yourself a favor and keep your disrespectfully simple mind to yourself about the work of people the scene respects and relies on.
If it's not evident by now, you are a retarded ass for making that comment.
ANYWAY BACK TO THE TOPIC
I can't WAIT to see more evolutions of this, as profound as it is so far.
This post has been edited by Hopeful: Apr 2 2007, 12:04 PM
Post by: vintage_guitar on April 02, 2007, 04:20:00 AM
QUOTE(Hopeful @ Apr 2 2007, 05:22 AM)
Are you retarded?
What are you doing on a 360 hacking site if you're not interested in any real "hacking" aka homebrew?
You're just mad because you're a fucking worthless pirate and the emphasis is shifting AWAY from keeping firmware hacks working.
Well news for ya: That's has NEVER been the scene's main focus. It was only a focus for a while because it was closer to homebrew than nothing, now homebrew is breaking surface, so go cry elsewhere.
From now on do yourself a favor and keep your disrespectful simple mind to yourself about the work of people the scene respects and relies on.
If it's not evident by now, you are a retarded ass for making that comment.
I quote with emphasis.
Post by: throwingks on April 02, 2007, 05:28:00 AM
To anybody testing this out. Would an Xbox360 be a good desktop PC (forfeit gaming)? I like and use Ubuntu right now on 1 of my PCs.
Is there a To-Do anywhere?
I know there is no sound driver, but I'm not sure about the video. Is there a modified ATi driver that hardware renders? Edit: Just reread 1st post. It seems no hardware rendering. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Still a long way to go. Keep up the good work. I am more impressed every day.
This post has been edited by throwingks: Apr 2 2007, 12:31 PM
Post by: forzadude2 on April 02, 2007, 06:10:00 AM
QUOTE(throwingks @ Apr 2 2007, 11:59 AM)
Is there a To-Do anywhere?
To anybody testing this out. Would an Xbox360 be a good desktop PC (forfeit gaming)? I like and use Ubuntu right now on 1 of my PCs.
Is there a To-Do anywhere?
I know there is no sound driver, but I'm not sure about the video. Is there a modified ATi driver that hardware renders? Edit: Just reread 1st post. It seems no hardware rendering. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Still a long way to go. Keep up the good work. I am more impressed every day.
It might be a bit low on ram if you want to run many apps simultaniously, but the livecd isn't swapping with gnome, firefox and emacs (of course (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) loaded. Anyways, sound can be done with usb-headset at the moment, but graphics driver isn't up to par as you can't change resolution yet.
I've been thinking of giving one of these to replace my cusins ubuntu-1200mhz celeron, but I'm waiting until a better graphics driver is availiable. It doesn't make as much noise when the dvd rom is idling (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Anyways, at least I can build a fast distcc-cluster (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
If you are going to install ubuntu, boot with gentoo live cd and use debootstrap. Remember to make an image of your old harddrive, or use a another 2.5" sata drive. Any 2.5" sata works great, but it wont show up in xbox-windows (not that it matters when you are only going to use it with linux)
This post has been edited by forzadude2: Apr 2 2007, 01:12 PM
Post by: bucko on April 02, 2007, 06:01:00 AM
Post by: cohan on April 02, 2007, 07:04:00 AM
Post by: lambert88 on April 02, 2007, 07:19:00 AM
to save the expence of dual layer discs could we delete some data that is not used from the game as we only get to the press start screen to make it fit on a dvd r.
Thanks
lambert
Post by: Helliano on April 02, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
QUOTE(tx81 @ Apr 2 2007, 07:30 AM)
yup it's easier on the pc to install a linux distro and for you FYI you can use your mouse and keyboard without having to get extra adapters or what not ... also you can install multiple OS's in a pc at the same time this is called multiboot or multiosinstalledatthesametime ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/jester.gif)
mouse and keyboard without an extra adapter? One of these PS3 freaks are on again....
Basic Specs for Xbox 360:
2 Memory Card Slots
1 Ethernet
1 Power Slot
1 Video Output
4 USB Ports
Post by: Fragreaver on April 02, 2007, 07:05:00 AM
Post by: BLKMGK on April 02, 2007, 07:30:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 01:03 AM)
I wonder how many people are actually interested in this? My bet is very few...
Interested enough that I went out and bought a brand new one this Sunday for just this purpose. I've got multiple XBOX1 in my home running XBMC but have COMPLETELY ignored the 360 because the only "hacking" being done was for "backups" which is NOT what I'm interested in. The older box can do 720 but this new box is powerful enough that it ought to be able to do 1080 and it's got more memory. As soon as I saw it was hacked and that folks were pushing it further I bought it, $460 worth too. The aTV might have been easier to hack and do what I want but it's nowhere near as powerful and I *do* actually like to play games occasionally
Oh and I have a 2xxxx kernel. It was a gamble and the bundle probably wasn't the best or cheapest but I now have capable hardware. I'll flash it to the right version, pop that resistor off, maybe buy an HD drive for it, and once I've figured out what danged DVD drive is in it figure out what I need to do to flash the firmware. Until now I've had no interest in learning about the 360 but with the work CPAS and others are doing I'm all over it. I just hope that things continue this well and that MSFT doesn't get too Sony on us. I've got a hacked PSP too and it was hamstrung pretty good till Dark Alex and others popped the firmware and we could tell Sony to kiss off. Perhaps taking a page from their book and modifying the "updated" Microsoft firmware would be worthwhile to explore. Sony's was encrypted and that was reversed - I'd be surprised if Microsoft did it so much better.
Looks like you've lost the bet...
P.S. I got a pair of wireless controllers, a recharger for at least one of them, component video cable, 20gig HD onboard, and some crappy bundled game with Bejeweled etc. on it.
Post by: Deihmos on April 02, 2007, 07:51:00 AM
QUOTE(BLKMGK @ Apr 2 2007, 08:37 AM)
Interested enough that I went out and bought a brand new one this Sunday for just this purpose. I've got multiple XBOX1 in my home running XBMC but have COMPLETELY ignored the 360 because the only "hacking" being done was for "backups" which is NOT what I'm interested in. The older box can do 720 but this new box is powerful enough that it ought to be able to do 1080 and it's got more memory. As soon as I saw it was hacked and that folks were pushing it further I bought it, $460 worth too. The aTV might have been easier to hack and do what I want but it's nowhere near as powerful and I *do* actually like to play games occasionally
Oh and I have a 2xxxx kernel. It was a gamble and the bundle probably wasn't the best or cheapest but I now have capable hardware. I'll flash it to the right version, pop that resistor off, maybe buy an HD drive for it, and once I've figured out what danged DVD drive is in it figure out what I need to do to flash the firmware. Until now I've had no interest in learning about the 360 but with the work CPAS and others are doing I'm all over it. I just hope that things continue this well and that MSFT doesn't get too Sony on us. I've got a hacked PSP too and it was hamstrung pretty good till Dark Alex and others popped the firmware and we could tell Sony to kiss off. Perhaps taking a page from their book and modifying the "updated" Microsoft firmware would be worthwhile to explore. Sony's was encrypted and that was reversed - I'd be surprised if Microsoft did it so much better.
Looks like you've lost the bet...
P.S. I got a pair of wireless controllers, a recharger for at least one of them, component video cable, 20gig HD onboard, and some crappy bundled game with Bejeweled etc. on it.
You really think many are interested in this at this point? Judging from the activity here i would say not. There are less than 10 posts from unique members. If we were really interested this thread would be on at least page 6 by now. Since the majority of us already updated to the new kernel and we are not that dumb to buy another xbox just for this.
Post by: Sonic-NKT on April 02, 2007, 08:35:00 AM
it should arrive this week and i only have to get kingkong to get started
Post by: luther349 on April 02, 2007, 08:46:00 AM
Post by: epsilon72 on April 02, 2007, 08:23:00 AM
It's getting better and better....
Post by: throwingks on April 02, 2007, 08:36:00 AM
QUOTE(epsilon72 @ Apr 2 2007, 10:30 AM)
Video drivers!
It's getting better and better....
Where?
Post by: seaweed on April 02, 2007, 09:18:00 AM
Not good enough to watch video anyways
Post by: Deihmos on April 02, 2007, 08:45:00 AM
QUOTE(Sonic-NKT @ Apr 2 2007, 09:06 AM)
i bought a used 360 with 2558 from ebay just for this. i cant wait to use the 360 as PC and mediacenter for my HDTV. and that for only 200.
it should arrive this week and i only have to get kingkong to get started
How would you know if it has the required firmware to do this?
Post by: noonespecial on April 02, 2007, 09:34:00 AM
Just downloading the new iso now, cant wait to see the gui as i thought that was what i was expecting on the 87mb iso how wrong was i, thought i was doing something wrong lol.....
Post by: dmanjohn on April 02, 2007, 09:49:00 AM
Post by: Tomobobo on April 02, 2007, 09:57:00 AM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 02:58 PM)
You really think many are interested in this at this point? Judging from the activity here i would say not. There are less than 10 posts from unique members. If we were really interested this thread would be on at least page 6 by now. Since the majority of us already updated to the new kernel and we are not that dumb to buy another xbox just for this.
Um, I'm pretty sure everyone's excited about this. You would be too, except you updated your dash and kernel to play the new "FPS + Aliens 9: Conflict: Regenerating Sheilds 7". The original xbox had an awesome run with homebrew, and such that I would purchase it's following model. The day I signed my pre-order for the 360, I was dreaming about the emulation and homebrew possibilities, now the day is finally upon us.
Post by: mlapaglia on April 02, 2007, 10:32:00 AM
i just went out and bought the "compatible" sata-pci card, and all the required tools for opening and flashing an xbox. can't wait until this really gets going, keep up the awesome work guys.
no one interested? are you flipping kidding me? all homebrew starts out slow, and then pretty much exponentially grows from there. give it a few more months, and we'll probably be seeing the beginning of XBMC for the 360. w00t!
Post by: StrictPuppet on April 02, 2007, 10:09:00 AM
QUOTE(noonespecial @ Apr 2 2007, 08:05 AM)
Can i use an ordinary usb mouse and keyboard on this, not tried myself as i thought i would need the converter type thing from divineo.....
Certainly. You may need to change the keyboard layout setting though, as it was not correct for my keyboard.
Post by: Big_Whoopin on April 02, 2007, 10:47:00 AM
QUOTE(BLKMGK @ Apr 2 2007, 08:37 AM)
...once I've figured out what danged DVD drive is in it figure out what I need to do to flash the firmware.
I brought a printout of this with me when I was searching for a compatible system.
http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EE...lpEEfSZefFv.php
I share BLKMGK's feelings. I've got multiple Xbox 1 units with XBMC and have been holding off on a 360 till the first signs of homebrew. On Friday I picked up a used Premium console (no HDD tho, EB/Gamestop returns all those to corporate) with a 2xxx kernel and Hitachi drive. Came with wireless controller and component cables too which was a plus. Picked up King Kong so I could rip it and apply the patch. (even if just using it to access an exploit, I believe in owning the software I'll be using) Still putting the box through some paces while it is under warranty, will crack it open to flash the drive when I'm comfortable it is solid. Still have a lot of reading to do regarding this since I am nowhere near as knowledgeable with the 360 platform as I am with the original Xbox hardware. Want to make sure I don't bone anything while tinkering with this pricey new toy.
Big thanks to the minds that have opened up these doors and continue to advance progress! It's been a long wait.
-Whoopin'
Post by: DURDADUR on April 02, 2007, 10:36:00 AM
Linux is for pc's. Thats about it. Sure, you can argue that techincally speaking the 360 has the same components as a pc, but for me, and i am sure most people like me, i bought a 360 for the reason of playing console games. i have a "tweaked" xbox of my own which i love, but that is because it still runs xbox games, and many other console games. So i guess i am just getting at the hypocracy of most issues with modding the 360 (as of now). I am not in anyway putting it down this topic, i find it amazing at what people can do with altering systems, being an engineer in study, i love doing that kind of thing as well.
So all in all, i am amazed by this new exploit, but at the same time i just hope it leads to something more console like, to where we can still have live. So props to everyone who has brought the 360 this far, but i just hope that people aren't going to be so hypocritical about this, because i know a majority of the people in this forum live, breathe, and eat consoles...
Post by: adrianc on April 02, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
or just ripping all those arcade games would be sweet
This is like the 007 and splinter cell hack now we have access to writing to the box and lots of other stuff.
Post by: cohan on April 02, 2007, 10:50:00 AM
QUOTE(DURDADUR @ Apr 2 2007, 06:43 PM)
Ok, just throwing this out there. Anyone remember when the XPFS 360 came out. Everyone bagged on it because "keyboards and mice" are not meant for consoles. That statement was made very clear by console fanboys. Now before i go on, i am not claming the same people who bagged on that are the people nutting themselves over this whole linux thing, but here i go...
Linux is for pc's. Thats about it. Sure, you can argue that techincally speaking the 360 has the same components as a pc, but for me, and i am sure most people like me, i bought a 360 for the reason of playing console games. i have a "tweaked" xbox of my own which i love, but that is because it still runs xbox games, and many other console games. So i guess i am just getting at the hypocracy of most issues with modding the 360 (as of now). I am not in anyway putting it down this topic, i find it amazing at what people can do with altering systems, being an engineer in study, i love doing that kind of thing as well.
So all in all, i am amazed by this new exploit, but at the same time i just hope it leads to something more console like, to where we can still have live. So props to everyone who has brought the 360 this far, but i just hope that people aren't going to be so hypocritical about this, because i know a majority of the people in this forum live, breathe, and eat consoles...
Post by: Hopeful on April 02, 2007, 11:06:00 AM
QUOTE(Hopeful @ Apr 2 2007, 11:22 AM)
Are you retarded?
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 02:58 PM)
You really think many are interested in this at this point? Judging from the activity here i would say not. There are less than 10 posts from unique members. If we were really interested this thread would be on at least page 6 by now. Since the majority of us already updated to the new kernel and we are not that dumb to buy another xbox just for this.
Yes you are, you say?
You realise you're on a hacking site? Mainly working towards homebrew exactly like this?
We realise that you have problems, that you're miffed as a useless pirate. "Backups" are losing emphasis. That's the way it was always gonna be. Homebrew is the core of this scene.
This thread/site/community is for those that appreciate this kind of thing. If that's not you, then you're irrelevant to the site. CRY ELSEWHERE.
This thread is not for you to idiotically bitch and belittle the project in. Everyone but you is here out of interest. Your critique is irrelevant and unimportant here. So please... kindly shut yer bitch-hole and butt out.
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BACK ON TOPIC of this project
You keep showing us great forward progress
How is the speed on this new full disk, compared to the last release?
I understand it's very early. Are we already able to dabble in a few applications with like-normal speed?
I'll try it for myself when a samsung solution comes along. (And then I'll be like "games what?")
Hoping to see many more of these releases,
with a few more breakthroughs if it's not hoping for too much
Do you have good expectations of more power being unlocked over time?
Many Thanks
Post by: pancus on April 02, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
QUOTE(tser360 @ Apr 2 2007, 06:30 AM)
For those with a samsung : If you REALLY want to run linux now, open your Xbox360.
Meanwhile, copy all required files (livecd, image.squash) to an usb stick or usb harddisk, and make _sure_ those file are in lowercase.
Then burn a cd, based upon the original livecd, without the squash file, but with an replacement kernel for USB (somewhere floating around also)
Then, Boot Kingkong, Connect USB drive. Press start, Insert modified linux disk.
*wait* until the penquins apears, this can take some little time.
Then, Unplug the sata cable of the samsung (at your own risk!).
You will see some exceptions, but you can go ahead with it.
Now the Bootloaderwill detect your usbdrive and procceeds with booting from that.
Note that usb support is far from stable. So don't try to install a complete gentoo on your usb disc, as it will crash.
Just to clarify here why this should work in theory. When linux starts it classifies usb flashdrives as scsi, the same as the sata cdrom on there already. This should (in theory) make it so that the usb is /dev/sda hence gentoo will find it and boot from it thinking its the boot cd. Unfortunately what most people don't realize this is a hack! The gentoo cd has a bug in the boot scripts that keeps it from properly finding anything that is not a cdrom. I found this out when I successfully tried to make a gentoo liveusb. The fix is just a few edits to one of the boot files, I forget which one right now but do a search of the Gentoo forums, it's there.
Here is a perfect example of what I mean - http://www.cs.wisc.e...mir/gentoo.html
Chances are they could easily make it so you can boot from usb, then everyone could enjoy
Post by: tutu on April 02, 2007, 11:49:00 AM
Post by: hitecdevil on April 02, 2007, 12:46:00 PM
QUOTE(mlapaglia @ Apr 2 2007, 06:03 PM)
does anyone know if the samsung capability is going to be coming out, or how had it is going to be to get this compatibility? im sure if will just take some time, but any kind of update would be kick ass.
i just went out and bought the "compatible" sata-pci card, and all the required tools for opening and flashing an xbox. can't wait until this really gets going, keep up the awesome work guys.
no one interested? are you flipping kidding me? all homebrew starts out slow, and then pretty much exponentially grows from there. give it a few more months, and we'll probably be seeing the beginning of XBMC for the 360. w00t!
sure the old school users of xbmc would like to see it running on the 360.but the only problem is you cant burn the xbmc on a dvd/cd becoz there are used files thats always updated if you put a cover for the movies or else...maybe if you can find out how the m$ hdd works,it could be possible...
i had everything mce2005,vmc,and other progs of the open source scene... but xbmc is my favorit toy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/love.gif)
This post has been edited by hitecdevil: Apr 2 2007, 07:47 PM
Post by: Shroomer on April 02, 2007, 12:49:00 PM
QUOTE
Just to clarify here why this should work in theory. When linux starts it classifies usb flashdrives as scsi, the same as the sata cdrom on there already. This should (in theory) make it so that the usb is /dev/sda hence gentoo will find it and boot from it thinking its the boot cd. Unfortunately what most people don't realize this is a hack! The gentoo cd has a bug in the boot scripts that keeps it from properly finding anything that is not a cdrom. I found this out when I successfully tried to make a gentoo liveusb. The fix is just a few edits to one of the boot files, I forget which one right now but do a search of the Gentoo forums, it's there.
Here is a perfect example of what I mean - http://www.cs.wisc.e...mir/gentoo.html
Chances are they could easily make it so you can boot from usb, then everyone could enjoy wink.gif
Here is a perfect example of what I mean - http://www.cs.wisc.e...mir/gentoo.html
Chances are they could easily make it so you can boot from usb, then everyone could enjoy wink.gif
Would be sweet booting linux on 360 via PSP.
Post by: mylakerye on April 02, 2007, 01:26:00 PM
This post has been edited by mylakerye: Apr 2 2007, 08:31 PM
Post by: Cpas on April 02, 2007, 12:51:00 PM
QUOTE(pancus @ Apr 2 2007, 07:30 PM)
Just to clarify here why this should work in theory. When linux starts it classifies usb flashdrives as scsi, the same as the sata cdrom on there already. This should (in theory) make it so that the usb is /dev/sda hence gentoo will find it and boot from it thinking its the boot cd. Unfortunately what most people don't realize this is a hack! The gentoo cd has a bug in the boot scripts that keeps it from properly finding anything that is not a cdrom. I found this out when I successfully tried to make a gentoo liveusb. The fix is just a few edits to one of the boot files, I forget which one right now but do a search of the Gentoo forums, it's there.
Here is a perfect example of what I mean - http://www.cs.wisc.e...mir/gentoo.html
Chances are they could easily make it so you can boot from usb, then everyone could enjoy
The gentoo boot script have no know bugs for now and has no problem to find files on another media. Tser360 posted this because he already did it.
You can find here a kernel i made that will wait for usb device to be mounted if the default kernel dont have the time to, and that should work with usb device formated to ext3, fat32 and ntfs (fat32 drivers correctly added and ntfs not tested). Just follow the tser360 instructions to make it work from usb devices but like he said, i didnt released it for now because usb hdd are buggy right now and can hang randomly.
Also be sure to include the dummy file "livecd" on the usb device since its the file that the gentoo script is search for at the first time.
ftp://linux360:[email protected]
Post by: cerealkillajme on April 02, 2007, 12:59:00 PM
Props to Cpas and Tser360 for helping with getting it working on Samsung (and all the hard work Cpas has been doing overall).
Post by: Big_Whoopin on April 02, 2007, 02:42:00 PM
I had seen another thread about installing to the SATA HDD, surprised this hasn't made X-S frontpage yet.
-Whoopin'
Post by: xllzerollx on April 02, 2007, 02:22:00 PM
Post by: ProphetOfPain on April 02, 2007, 04:49:00 PM
QUOTE(cohan @ Apr 2 2007, 05:57 PM)
Well, I bought my Xbox 360 mainly for streaming Videos to it, and running Linux or OSX with some sort of Media Center when possible.
As i'm sure he bought his "PC" for that...
Post by: throwingks on April 02, 2007, 04:58:00 PM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Apr 2 2007, 06:56 PM)
As i'm sure he bought his "PC" for that...
I can't speak for everyone but I own an Xbox1 for media streaming to the TV and Stereo in the living room and a PC for internet and gaming. Now that Xbox360 can it will probably be my next big purchase. (Yes, when you have a kid, an Xbox360 is a BIG purchase.)Just cause somebody doesn't use their equipment like you do, doesn't make it wrong.
It blows my mind why people are hatin' on this. This is the most important thing that could happen. Once Linux is running, it's nothing but a snow ball effect from here. Anything that you want can be done after this point.
Post by: eyric101 on April 02, 2007, 05:12:00 PM
QUOTE(forzadude2 @ Apr 2 2007, 07:41 AM)
It might be a bit low on ram if you want to run many apps simultaniously, but the livecd isn't swapping with gnome, firefox and emacs (of course
loaded. Anyways, sound can be done with usb-headset at the moment, but graphics driver isn't up to par as you can't change resolution yet. " I'm curious, I know vista has a way that you can plug in any usb memory stick of a certain size and it prompts to use that as additional ram. Does any functionality exist for linux and if so could it be used with the 360 to add memory, though I know it won't help much for games but for running multiple apps, I think the speed should be sufficient.
Post by: wans on April 02, 2007, 07:35:00 PM
QUOTE(Cpas @ Apr 2 2007, 08:58 PM)
The gentoo boot script have no know bugs for now and has no problem to find files on another media. Tser360 posted this because he already did it.
You can find here a kernel i made that will wait for usb device to be mounted if the default kernel dont have the time to, and that should work with usb device formated to ext3, fat32 and ntfs (fat32 drivers correctly added and ntfs not tested). Just follow the tser360 instructions to make it work from usb devices but like he said, i didnt released it for now because usb hdd are buggy right now and can hang randomly.
Also be sure to include the dummy file "livecd" on the usb device since its the file that the gentoo script is search for at the first time.
ftp://linux360:[email protected]
I have had a little play around with this as unfortunatley im a samsung owner. Now i made the new cd using the kernel you provided above and unplugged my dvdrom as the pengiuns appear, it boots for a while and crashes on "loading gdm" (might not be the precise wording) everytime. Im using an Ipod Nano to store the LiveCD could this be the problem?
Im itching to see a new GUI on my box, even have a 200gig sata HDD ready to go, once things start speeding up a bit anyway!
Any help is greatly apreciated
Post by: j5350 on April 02, 2007, 09:14:00 PM
Thanks.
Post by: Pepsi_Man0077 on April 02, 2007, 11:51:00 PM
QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:58 AM)
You really think many are interested in this at this point? Judging from the activity here i would say not. There are less than 10 posts from unique members. If we were really interested this thread would be on at least page 6 by now. Since the majority of us already updated to the new kernel and we are not that dumb to buy another xbox just for this.
Okay, you are a dumbass to think no one is interested. People werent posting a lot saying they liked the idea because they were more interested in seeing if it was even worth it yet. Most people dont have enough money to go buy another xbox 360, but if i was rich, i would do it and experiment on it. But untill then, we are cautious about whether its even worth it right now. I mean of there is no sound driver, then sure, its worth it to wait. And people with the samsung drive can do this hack, but it is less secure, and can fuck up your xbox easier. Do you even know how long it took before the xbox 1 hack was even safe??? and even now it isnt completely safe. People procede with caution when its a 400$ item on the line. So thats the only reason people wouldnt do this mod, doesnt mean they arent interested. The only thing thats stopping me is that i dont really want to firmware my drive. And it doesnt look safe at all yet. So watch what you are saying before you say something stupid. I bet veryone that has read your quote thinks you are a complete idiot. and i bet that 90% of the people that have 360's and mod are interested in this.. if not more
Now, for some questions from the experts. How can i find my kernal?? and if i dont want to flash my drive, will this work if i use a NME v1.2 chip, cause i ordered that the other day. Also any perspectives on when this thing would be "safe" by and how many emulators and such are even available?? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
Post by: raid517 on April 03, 2007, 04:18:00 AM
QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Apr 3 2007, 05:50 AM)
That's just it.. I myself am not hatin' on it. I have a 400 gb XBMC halo edition hooked up on my rack right now. Just tried the vision skin - awesome. What i'm referring to is the fact of buying a 360 just because it's hacked.. I get it.. powerful, media center, etc.. but you don't have to wait for a console to be hacked to run linux. I also do think it is all very beneficial towards the whole scene as a whole in regards to finding other xploits etc, I just think it's funny to be the only reason to buy a 360, that's all..
Well it might not be the only reason, but it's a good reason.
The main reason is that it's a start. We all have to start somewhere - and it is because of crazy people like us who are prepared to go to extremes and do this stuff and to break new ground that unappreciative people like you get to enjoy the rewards, when finally all of the hacking and testing is out of the way and everything is running smoothly and you can run your cool ass media center/gaming console, play games, run emulators and do all kinds of cool and amazing things that weren't possible before. You think you will still be bitching about it then?
Anyway all I want right now is Samsung support. It is very limiting really that not only do you need to have the right 360 kernel, you also need to have a specific Hitachi drive.
I am sure the community will open up a lot more fully and there will be a lot more activity on the homebrew front, if/when these issues are resolved.
(Which also begs the question - is the Samsung Drive issue actually resolvable? I know there is a kind of USB hack thing going on right now to get things working with the Samsung drives - but apparently this isn't very stable yet?, I'm asking as if the samsung thing isn't going to be resolved for a long time, I may buy a Hitachi drive instead).
Post by: Dano2k0 on April 03, 2007, 04:33:00 AM
Congrats to all the team working on this stuff.
Cheers
Post by: wans on April 03, 2007, 04:41:00 AM
QUOTE(j5350 @ Apr 3 2007, 05:21 AM)
Could you give me a little help as to how the new CD (for Samsungs) was made. I tried a couple ways but it doesn't get detected. When I use the original, it does get detected, but just hangs because its a Samsung. Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
To make the cd download ultraiso, open the exsisting LiveCD, remove livecd the squash file and the vmlinux file, leaving only the @XELL file in the image. Rename the new kernel file to VMLINUX and place it in the iso. Save and burn.
Post by: turbo-donkey on April 03, 2007, 05:03:00 AM
QUOTE(raid517 @ Apr 3 2007, 12:03 PM)
Wait, there is a CD for Samsungs now? I'm confused....
No samsung support still isn't there... I would imagine it will be soon though! its being worked on...
Post by: BLKMGK on April 03, 2007, 07:49:00 AM
QUOTE(Big_Whoopin @ Apr 2 2007, 12:18 PM)
I brought a printout of this with me when I was searching for a compatible system.
http://www.xbox-scen...lpEEfSZefFv.php
I share BLKMGK's feelings. I've got multiple Xbox 1 units with XBMC and have been holding off on a 360 till the first signs of homebrew. On Friday I picked up a used Premium console (no HDD tho, EB/Gamestop returns all those to corporate) with a 2xxx kernel and Hitachi drive. Came with wireless controller and component cables too which was a plus. Picked up King Kong so I could rip it and apply the patch. (even if just using it to access an exploit, I believe in owning the software I'll be using) Still putting the box through some paces while it is under warranty, will crack it open to flash the drive when I'm comfortable it is solid. Still have a lot of reading to do regarding this since I am nowhere near as knowledgeable with the 360 platform as I am with the original Xbox hardware. Want to make sure I don't bone anything while tinkering with this pricey new toy.
Big thanks to the minds that have opened up these doors and continue to advance progress! It's been a long wait.
-Whoopin'
Yup, I'm still coming up to speed too, I'm way behind and pretty ignorant on the 360. When the 360 first came out and the only thing being done was backups and flashing the DVD firmware I ignored it as that's not of interest to me - I want something other than pirated games. However flashing the DVD drive is critical because apparently the silly thing is hardcoded to reject recordable media needed for other hacks - doh! I have seen the graphic you've linked and my drive is one of the ones on the left which means it MIGHT be one of the usable ones. However it looks like it can be one of two manufacturers and I need to open the silly thing to be sure. I have to sweat revision of the hardware on top of that. Even opening these is a PITA it seems but since I may want a black case anyway I guess I'll be getting a tool kit with it. I'd hoped to order a chip at the same time but there are a ton out there and some of them look to be a real bitch to install. I'd like to retain the OEM firmware if possible and just have it flip to the new stuff when recordable media is inserted. Any pointers on this are appreciated to say the least. Fingers crossed it's not a Sammy when I pop the case open since those appear to be a bigger PITA
FWIW Linux isn't really my ultimate goal here and I'd bet that it isn't many other people's goal either, perhaps those throwing rocks don't get that. I think most of us would still like to be able to play games made for the system on the system like we can with XBMC now. XBMC is written with the Microsoft extensions (compiler?) and what the mod chip on those is really allowing us to do is to get past the code signature checks using modified firmware (as I understand it).
Hopefully now that Linux is running on these the process of getting deeper into the hardware is moving forward and at some point unsigned or mis-signed code can be run alongside standard Microsoft signed code, we have to break those checks. I don't actually like that folks developing XBMC have to use pirated compiler extensions and break license agreements but it seems that Microsoft has left us little choice if we want to play in their sandbox. Remember this? Now wouldn't it be sweet to be able to run something like that? Once signatures are gotten past (pretty sure sigs are the big issue) that is the sort of thing we can look forward to along with the likes of XBMC, I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already ported XBMC on a dev platform actually since judging from the MAME port the devs like to have fun too.
Anyway, Linux is a stepping stone. I'm quite sure that it's the ultimate goal for some but I'll bet for many it's not. However we'll certainly owe a good deal to those who made Linux possible and expanded the functionality like CPAS has. I hope that efforts to dig into the system further are ongoing rather than tons of focused effort on getting accelerated video and sound. Certainly those things will be important to some but breaking the security that prevents homebrew code from running in the 360 Hypervisor is what I'm, personally, most interested in. Hopefully I've not slighted the Free60 guys here but a kewl Linux box while neat isn't quite what I'm after nor do I simply want to pirate crap.
The aTV guys are getting some things done with bounties and there was the preBootCamp Apple stuff, the TIVO community has done the same in the past too. Has anyone considered organizing bounties or contests for the 360 now that some advances have been made to get code running? Money and competition seem to incentivize people and bring out the underground stuff althoguh sometimes at the expense of free sharing I'm afraid. I for one would certainly be willing to contribute and I'll bet other's would too. CPAS have you got at least got a tip jar somewhere?
Seriously, my thanks to those who are pushing this forward, please don't let shortsighted fools get you down and know that many of us are delighted at what you have accomplished and hungry for more!
Post by: wans on April 03, 2007, 08:10:00 AM
QUOTE(raid517 @ Apr 3 2007, 01:03 PM)
Wait, there is a CD for Samsungs now? I'm confused....
Not a cd, more of a rough workaround.. you take the exsisting cd from the original post in this thread and modifiy it a bit by replacing the kernel with the USB compatible version and placing the "LIVECD" and the squash file on a form of USB storage. This can be either a flash drive or usb hard disk as far as i am aware, i use an ipod for example.
The downside of this work around is that you have to physicly unplug the dvd rom when the Linux kernel starts to boot, not to mention the USB functions are a bit buggy. Not quite a solution yet, but for those of you that are interested in seeing Linux running and dont want to wait for a new firmware/xell mod this is the way to go.
And to the stone throwers, personaly i am not all that interested in using Linux long term, ive always been a windows bitch, what i am interested in is the hacking process, trying to help solve problems and generally furthering the scene. Eventually this will all pay off, but it wont be for a while, running Linux is a far cry from XBMC or other homebrew apps simply down to the fact that no unauthorised users have access to development tools, or a way of fooling the system into running unsigned xex's. It may eventually come down to emulating the 360 through Linux running on a 360 to get true xbox apps running.
Post by: BLKMGK on April 03, 2007, 10:27:00 AM
QUOTE(seaweed @ Apr 3 2007, 12:14 PM)
http://www.mythtv.or...me=MythFeatures
Something like that for the 360 would be awesome, lets hope someone will make a mediacenter edition linux for the 360 once drivers and tweaks are in place
Agreed! I've stated it elsewhere (in an aTV thread actually!) that what Myth really needs is a standard platform. Build Myth to a standard, cheap, powerful platform and much of the how to get it working stuff goes away and it can be heavily refined like XBMC has been. I honestly expect that the aTV will get that before the 360 just because it has a pretty well developed OS and drivers already ready to go - OSX. Actually Myth on a Mini makes huge sense to me too <shrug> For some reason that idea doesn't seem to be taking off, dunno' why.
If you've not already seen it though checkout this and see if it gets you as excited. THAT is what everyone who has an old XBOX would probably like to see on the new one - ME included! It's 720P capable on the old hardware, on the new it ought to really rock - the aTV appears to be stuck at 720P BTW. Plus that software can play console games, something I do not think the aTV will be doing anytime soon. It's open source just like Myth and I think it's a pretty good competitor that's more geared to a console. With the USB ports on the 360 maybe we'll get a PVR too so who knows.
Post by: bnkiller on April 03, 2007, 02:25:00 PM
is in this linux possible to chance the ip settings like ip and dna ?
lg
maxxx
Post by: Pepsi_Man0077 on April 03, 2007, 04:34:00 PM
Post by: Sonic-NKT on April 04, 2007, 06:31:00 AM
btw, can i solder any type pf 80GB SATA in my 360 and use that without problems (use the whole 80GB) with linux. (yes i know i cant use it for the 360 software)
Post by: burgerbee on April 04, 2007, 07:24:00 AM
QUOTE(Sonic-NKT @ Apr 4 2007, 02:38 PM)
btw, can i solder any type pf 80GB SATA in my 360 and use that without problems (use the whole 80GB) with linux. (yes i know i cant use it for the 360 software)
Any 2.5" SATA drive will work without modifications with the box and linux. 3.5" SATA drives will not fit in the hd-case and you will need adapters and sort out the power supply yourself. And yes, you can use the full capacity of the drive in linux.
Post by: Icekiller2k6 on April 05, 2007, 05:59:00 AM
but i have a few questions for those who already hacked their xbox 360.
Is it possible to use the IR (remote controller) and the normal controller yet?
The reason i'm asking this is because if they run then you can use them for SNES, NES etc emulators on the xbox360..
About myth .. I think its bloated and it just looks awfull..
I think we need to be concentrating on Mplayer and build a shell around it like XBMC(360), if it would be possible to keep the standards of xbmc(1) (skins, configs) that would be nice.. Just so that the designers wouldn't have to begin from scratch..
I think the best approuch would be to take a light weight Window manager and turn into a XBMC. Ofcourse this is all far away untill we atleast get sound to work and the videocard..
Post by: d131 on April 05, 2007, 10:14:00 AM
QUOTE(BLKMGK @ Apr 3 2007, 06:16 PM)
This is a "live" distro. Much like Knoppix in that the O/S boots off of the CD and is only running in memory getting files from the CD as needed. It CAN be installed to the HD but so far not many have done that it seems and the bootup process might be a little kludgy. Oh and it's "real" Linux not a demo version. Still some stuff not working but it's a real OS.
Oh and it seems I have the Sammy DVD drive too
My box appears to have been made September 06 and has the OLD firmware onboard. Now I need to find a chip for it!So installing linux is not a one way trip? Once you turn the 360 off or shut down linux it returns to the orignal state. Minus the modded FW.
Post by: Icekiller2k6 on April 05, 2007, 11:19:00 AM
QUOTE(d131 @ Apr 5 2007, 05:21 PM)
So installing linux is not a one way trip? Once you turn the 360 off or shut down linux it returns to the orignal state. Minus the modded FW.
yip
Post by: Pepsi_Man0077 on April 05, 2007, 10:34:00 PM
Also i think it is fucked up how Microsoft Auto-Updated my 360. I plugged it in online just to play some XBC with halo 2 and next thing i know my kernal is higher than before.. FUCK M$!!!!! I need a job so I can go buy a 360 with a manufacturing date before Jan 1st 2007.... Dammit!
Post by: burgerbee on April 06, 2007, 04:10:00 AM
QUOTE(Icekiller2k6 @ Apr 5 2007, 02:06 PM)
Is it possible to use the IR (remote controller) and the normal controller yet?
The reason i'm asking this is because if they run then you can use them for SNES, NES etc emulators on the xbox360..
I think the best approuch would be to take a light weight Window manager and turn into a XBMC. Ofcourse this is all far away untill we atleast get sound to work and the videocard..
No orginal game controller to my knowledge (maybe done), but SNES with an noname usb-gamepad works fine here :-)
If you want sound, you can go usb-audio for now.
QUOTE(noonespecial @ Apr 6 2007, 11:37 AM)
can we use a wireless keyboard on mouse for this.....
It works in linux if it works in linux. So, yes )
Post by: vintage_guitar on April 10, 2007, 07:59:00 AM
Post by: Icekiller2k6 on April 10, 2007, 08:40:00 AM
QUOTE(vintage_guitar @ Apr 10 2007, 03:06 PM)
What about an IDE-SATA adapter for any older HDD?
it should work
but i think that you need a powersupply for the converter and you don't have anywere to pull the power from
Post by: jxoxn21 on April 13, 2007, 10:20:00 AM
My point is, give it time to evolve into something big before you spend all of your allowance you got from mommy and daddy on something that's going to be completely obsolete tomorrow. Patience is a virtue and will save you $$ lol.
My 2 cents
Post by: cerealkillajme on April 13, 2007, 10:37:00 AM
QUOTE(jxoxn21 @ Apr 13 2007, 05:27 PM)
I don't have any understanding as to why most of you are going to buy a big hdd, or start soldering a serial, or go as far as buying another 360 with a lower kernal version lol. Unless you're a developer who has enough knowledge to find more exploits or find a way to boot backups off the hdd; this exploit is way too new and serves you no purpose. Tomorrow they will find a way to boot this on every kernal version and release xbmc360 that will work on every 360 and you wasted hundreds of dollars on another system lol. I have kernal 4532 with a hitachi drive, don't get me wrong it's REALLY cool and a cheap desktop computer. But for me, that's about it lol. I could browse the net and talk on mIRC (same thing I do on my Dell with XP)
My point is, give it time to evolve into something big before you spend all of your allowance you got from mommy and daddy on something that's going to be completely obsolete tomorrow. Patience is a virtue and will save you $$ lol.
My 2 cents
Some people (like me) do this stuff as a hobbie. Also by doing this I'm forcing myself to learn linux, which is something I've avoided for years as I've never seen a point (windows works just fine for everything I need to do), but I'm glad I'm doing it since I'm learning linux if anything (and yeah I know I could install linux on a PC, but anybody can do that, not everyone can run it on a 360, and very few can ATM).
And now that I've installed Ubuntu on my HDD I can lay in the bed and use IRC and a browser (without changing my settings everytime I start, like when using the gentoo live disc), that's something I can't do cause both my PC's HAVE to stay downstairs.
Post by: jxoxn21 on April 13, 2007, 11:23:00 AM
Props to all the hackers that made this possible. DONT STOP MESSIN AROUND!!!!
Post by: Anastrophe on April 15, 2007, 08:47:00 AM
QUOTE(eyric101 @ Apr 3 2007, 03:19 AM)
I'm curious, I know vista has a way that you can plug in any usb memory stick of a certain size and it prompts to use that as additional ram. Does any functionality exist for linux and if so could it be used with the 360 to add memory, though I know it won't help much for games but for running multiple apps, I think the speed should be sufficient.
I believe Vista uses the USB for faster swapfiles (sort of) rather than additional RAM